00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/02.01.20 00:22:53 writing a compiler sucks ass 00:23:03 yup 00:24:11 yes, yes it does 00:24:32 writing a net stack is fun 00:24:40 yes it is 00:24:47 especially when the lang is all fucked up and incoherent 00:24:54 =) 00:27:30 yay i'm done a memory card schematic for the Z80 MP sys!! 00:34:47 u can tell yer stressed when u type yer password at the lilo boot prompt :) 00:34:55 yay 00:35:03 air: hahaha 00:35:24 yay who? 00:35:59 you 00:36:05 oh 00:36:08 heh 00:36:11 thx 00:36:12 yaya 00:36:22 =) 00:36:26 sry 00:36:32 hehe 00:39:33 --- join: nbsp (g@65.1.16.170) joined #osdev 00:39:57 haha 00:40:24 this guy has 2 kills and 16 deaths and someone is saying he cheats 00:41:46 heh 00:42:10 Heheh 00:42:14 That's pretty funny. 00:58:02 first ping response 00:58:10 time to build ip routing tables 01:07:17 --- join: `dax (you@u212-239-163-18.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 01:30:55 --- quit: ink (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:39:19 --- join: Deusy (gc@host213-122-76-30.btinternet.com) joined #osdev 01:39:25 http://www.ibeta.org/ 01:39:28 that's funny 01:39:51 "You need to upgrade your PPHnuke to an unexploitble version people could delete everything if you don't" 01:44:02 cute 01:45:07 --- join: corsairk8 (~CorsairK8@pc-62-30-122-106-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 01:49:24 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:50:47 --- quit: `dax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:58:10 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h173n2fls33o898.telia.com) joined #osdev 02:05:11 --- quit: nbsp ("'night") 02:12:40 --- quit: Deusy () 03:07:49 --- join: trans (~trans@209.53.48.172) joined #osdev 03:08:28 * rob_ert is away: ... 03:44:26 --- nick: freston -> fressleep 04:02:34 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:07:55 --- quit: corsairk8 (Remote closed the connection) 04:22:36 --- join: nilsw (00000@ncdial1-203-1-nc.nordcom.net) joined #osdev 04:23:38 * rob_ert is back (gone 01:15:10) 04:48:31 --- quit: morton (Remote closed the connection) 05:08:59 --- join: virtus (~virtus@212.129.197.129) joined #osdev 05:09:01 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 05:09:11 hey trans 05:19:46 * rob_ert is away: I'm away :) 05:44:26 --- join: jukka (jukka@MKCCVIII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi) joined #osdev 05:47:22 --- nick: geist -> geist-sleep 05:48:38 night geist-sleep 05:50:08 .... 05:50:36 hello crazy jukka 05:50:47 hello lunatic nilsw 05:50:54 :b 05:51:06 The Lunar Robbe! 06:03:25 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:10:29 --- quit: jukka ("mut mur") 06:20:53 --- join: mrtn (~pr@speights.bcl.co.nz) joined #osdev 06:22:02 --- join: corsairk8 (~CorsairK8@pc-62-30-122-106-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 06:24:00 I'm talking! I'm taaaaaalking!!!! 06:24:09 joohoo!! 06:25:07 Yay! 06:25:11 It's alive ! 06:25:35 * Rico dies because of rob_ert's herbs 06:41:32 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-3e36c81c.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 06:41:39 Hi 06:41:43 hi 06:42:30 Hi 06:42:40 got my network card running under Linux... 06:43:03 I got also got it running under windows :D 06:43:10 hi Rico 06:43:18 rIcOsAnChEz 06:46:40 * rob_ert is away: eating. 06:49:19 byebye 06:49:20 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 32 (Broken pipe)) 06:52:23 --- join: cookin (~jrydberg@d212-151-43-66.swipnet.se) joined #osdev 06:52:25 gee 06:55:50 hi cookin 06:56:03 do I got a hangover today or what? 06:56:39 hehe 06:56:42 too much whiskey? 06:56:45 last nite 06:56:50 too much of everything 06:56:54 haha 06:57:00 * mrtn had beer last nite 06:57:04 nothing much else though :/ 07:01:55 --- join: atomman (~alfie@c16901.sunsh2.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined #osdev 07:01:58 hello 07:02:36 Hi 07:02:42 I'm going outside now, cu all 07:02:58 rob_ert: as in robert lee? 07:03:40 --- quit: fressleep (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:03:40 --- quit: FastJack_ (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:06:26 --- quit: cookin ("Client Exiting") 07:07:04 --- join: FastJack_ (fastjack@camelot.germanistik.fu-berlin.de) joined #osdev 07:07:04 --- join: fressleep (manuel@209-128-114-098.bayarea.net) joined #osdev 07:17:41 --- quit: atomman () 07:20:18 --- join: trans (~trans@209.53.48.172) joined #osdev 07:39:15 --- quit: virtus ("Client Exiting") 07:57:30 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:57:32 --- quit: mrtn (Remote closed the connection) 07:58:22 * rob_ert is back (gone 01:11:43) 08:00:45 --- join: ree (user@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 08:00:54 hi ree 08:01:57 hey rob_ert 08:02:21 --- quit: gab (Remote closed the connection) 08:02:24 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 08:07:39 --- quit: gab (Remote closed the connection) 08:07:40 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 08:11:15 --- quit: rob_ert (Remote closed the connection) 08:11:29 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h173n2fls33o898.telia.com) joined #osdev 09:01:58 --- join: Deusy (gc@host213-122-121-193.btinternet.com) joined #osdev 09:20:51 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 09:28:35 --- quit: torquil (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:34:48 --- join: Mikaku (mikaku@ie-89.arrakis.es) joined #osdev 09:34:53 hi * 09:36:18 hi 09:36:28 :) 09:36:56 hi deusy :) 09:37:54 how's it going? 09:38:55 could'nt be better :) 09:39:08 hello 09:39:21 :) 09:39:35 hello trans 09:39:52 i Mikaku 09:40:00 s/i/hi 09:40:07 i wish arsenal would score. 09:40:12 hi Deusey 09:40:19 hi :) 09:45:37 hey mikaku =) 09:48:00 --- quit: gab (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:48:07 --- join: jukka (jukka@MMMDCCXXXI.hdyn.saunalahti.fi) joined #osdev 09:50:02 --- quit: Deusy () 10:27:32 bye * :) 10:27:34 --- part: Mikaku left #osdev 10:32:44 --- join: torquil (~mac@ppp-089169.blk.cstone.net) joined #osdev 10:34:12 --- join: daxy (you@u212-239-163-18.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 10:34:27 hi 10:34:36 heya 10:44:36 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:49:55 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 10:51:08 --- join: wossname (meh@Toronto-ppp226662.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 10:53:50 --- join: Deusy (gc@host213-122-55-207.btinternet.com) joined #osdev 10:56:14 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 10:58:39 who maintains osdev.org? there's a fair few dead links in the links bit. 11:00:31 eg hang3r.com 11:01:49 lol 11:01:52 that one sucks 11:14:00 --- join: WolfsBane (~Wolfen@mcns4.docsis187.singa.pore.net) joined #osdev 11:14:11 hi 11:14:16 hey 11:17:42 --- join: foofo (~ubiquity@cpe-24-221-255-164.ut.sprintbbd.net) joined #osdev 11:18:39 --- nick: foofo -> foofoo 11:24:41 --- join: neniu (masm@217.70.66.195) joined #osdev 12:01:26 --- join: notten (~notten@bgp423523bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) joined #osdev 12:01:39 hey notten 12:02:13 Hi ree. 12:06:03 I want to join a team developing an OS. Anyone needs me or knows someone who does? 12:06:27 neniu: Why not make your own OS? 12:06:36 Deusy: use qzx.com/lib for links 12:06:44 neniu: plenty of OSes to contribute to. 12:06:54 --- nick: geist-sleep -> geist 12:07:33 *Yawn* 12:07:38 * geist stretches 12:07:46 morning :) 12:08:04 it sucks to be up this early :) 12:08:05 * jukka gives geist a banana 12:08:30 * jukka gives air an air refresher :) 12:08:43 air: it's 3:09 PM here, what is it for you? 12:08:58 notten: 1pm 12:09:15 yep. :-) 12:09:34 i usually get up at 4-5pm 12:09:34 foofoo: Yes, I know. But I haven't decided which one to join... 12:09:38 noon here 12:09:50 neniu: looked at newos yet? newos.sf.net 12:10:00 I could use some help, drivers and such 12:10:07 neniu: newos is under the bsd license. :-) 12:10:14 that too 12:10:44 Heh, I might actually try to get my OS to do something ;p 12:10:44 notten: there are too many already... 12:11:14 I've been working on a net stack over the last few days. very rewarding 12:11:33 neniu: there is also atheos, a desktop os written from scratch: http://www.atheos.cx/ 12:11:47 isnt the bsd license like public domain? 12:12:24 anyone can modify, sell and not release? 12:12:42 pretty much... 12:12:49 why would u want that? 12:12:58 I dont care 12:13:05 hehe, my OS is under the SCREW YOU licience.. which means you can reverse engineer the fuck out of it but dont bother me for the code ;p 12:13:32 --- quit: WolfsBane (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:13:51 heh, then why are you on open projects 12:14:00 u bust yer ass to make the code for free and some ass comes along and makes a bunch of changes that would help u out but he keeps them secret so he can make money of yer work 12:14:13 bummer 12:14:18 air: does it matter if it is open source and free? 12:14:23 ree: I give it out for free, isn't that open? ;p 12:14:31 free != open 12:14:40 air: isn't the artistic license you have pretty damn free too? 12:14:46 :) 12:14:52 if you're writing open source code and freely distribute it, then does it really matter as long as you retain the copyright? 12:14:59 ree: never said it is. 12:15:01 not as free as bsd 12:15:07 ree: Fine, I have to admit that people the emailed me about bugs got a bit of the code which I asked them to look at if they understood it. So it's like semi open ;p 12:15:12 I was referring to notten 12:15:22 oh well, anyway 12:15:29 I just dont want to deal with the GPL 12:15:44 neither do i 12:15:47 I prefer BSD 12:15:56 though I actually prefer no license at all 12:16:00 Heh, everyone should use the screw you licience ;p 12:16:01 linux is full of commies. heh. 12:16:03 just a disclaimer with profanity in it 12:16:50 ok, lets all use the scree you license to make notten happy 12:16:58 RMS is really Joseph Stalin in disguise. 12:17:02 what the FUCK do yanks have agains commies 12:17:08 I guess I gotta start updating the license text to be 'Copyright 2001-2002' 12:17:19 notten: it would be funnier if it was SCREW RMS 12:17:21 hehe, thanks air ;p 12:17:32 wtf is RMS? 12:17:39 Richard M. Stallman 12:17:46 Anyone familiar with the demoscene? Remember the DemOS project? 12:17:55 neniu: yes 12:18:18 neniu: it died off 12:18:39 ah, demos. well, actually I'm not sure which scene 12:18:46 I remember PC demos 12:18:54 I know. I dream, EVERYNIGHT, with a OS like that one... It's something like that that I'm searching... 12:19:00 I think there were amiga demos before that 12:19:14 geist: that's it... 12:19:46 oh man, trying to remember the really good on that blew me away.... 12:19:54 done by future crew 12:20:08 --- quit: nilsw ("join #psl! hm.. :-(") 12:20:14 second reality... 12:20:17 yeah! 12:20:21 that kicked ass 12:20:36 and then there were the 4k ones 12:20:44 second reality... was that the animation? 12:20:54 I almost come when i saw that one for the first time ;) 12:20:59 nah, it was a long ass demo, with various stages 12:21:05 yeah... 12:21:10 yeah, and it ran great on my slow ass 386 12:21:20 it had some plane flying at the end, and some hyponitic scenes. 12:21:23 and funky music. 12:21:45 --- quit: daxy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:21:45 not sure, but it may have been the pinnacle of the demo scene 12:21:49 that got me into computers. 12:21:50 I never found one that was better 12:21:50 those were the days... 12:21:58 it was the business. 12:22:07 people don't do much of that these days, though i saw something else recently. 12:22:17 i forget what it's called... 12:22:22 yeah, computers are just too fast nowadays 12:22:25 it's like 96k or something small and kicks ass. 12:22:34 not impressive anymore to the standard d00d 12:22:50 it is. 12:23:00 damn, i'll try and dig up the link... it was new about 2 months ago. 12:23:01 maybe to some technophile, if you realize how small it is, etc 12:23:04 don't even like theproduct, or heaven7? 12:23:06 wtf it costs 4.67 for an 8K SRAM chip but only 3.20 for a 32K? 12:23:25 but second reality blew everyone away, didn't matter if you knew anyting about computers or not 12:23:43 it was awesome... 12:23:57 that's true. 12:24:22 trans: probably no one buys the smaller ones any more. supply/demand 12:24:39 slashdot says "plot discussed" for the black hawk down review 12:25:02 I think at work we found that a 16mB sdram chip was cheaper and uses less power than the 8mB one 12:25:03 doesnt everyone already know the plot considering its based on a true story??? 12:25:09 holy fuck! 95.30 for 32K daul port ram! 12:25:30 air: do you know some OS project similar to DemOS? 12:25:41 neniu: uuu 12:25:42 i hate how price is govered by s&d 12:25:54 i am going to eliminate that!!! 12:25:56 neniu: #uuu 12:26:47 trans: yup, yer gonna change the world :) 12:27:00 so you will buy all the stuff that no one wants so that the supply is the same for everything? 12:27:08 no 12:27:11 hahah 12:27:22 or at least buy enough that the s/d crossover is at the same price? 12:27:31 eliminate overhead 12:27:32 er demand I mean 12:27:59 so it would cost the same each device to make 30 or 300000 12:28:08 oh, okay 12:28:13 uhh 12:28:13 sounds easy enough 12:28:21 just wave your magic wand 12:28:28 no 12:28:50 am i the only one who thinks trans is smoking glue again? 12:29:03 i start by building a machine which can print a circuit board pattern on a board to be etched 12:29:15 dude that's bad. glue == badness 12:29:22 trans: its been done 12:29:27 no cost to change between what patterns are printed 12:29:39 trans: wow what I great idea! then we can mass produce circuit boards 12:29:43 trans: will be in production next year 12:29:49 now every once is carved out of a block of silicon 12:29:53 fuck you 12:29:56 :) 12:29:58 trans: im serious 12:30:05 its a fucking start 12:30:21 * geist thinks trans may actually be serious 12:30:37 air: im not talking those printable circuits 12:30:44 this is simpiler 12:31:02 smplr 12:31:09 1 12:31:10 0 12:31:12 110101 12:31:13 10 12:31:13 10 12:31:14 0 12:31:16 0 12:31:16 1 12:31:18 0 12:31:20 then a reprogramable machine to place and solder parts 12:31:31 trans: how does it eliminate ICs? 12:31:41 it doesn't 12:31:56 --- quit: jukka ("and try to irc. no one notices ytou anyway") 12:32:26 air: thanx for the uuu tip. that's what i was searching. 12:33:13 just printing my own boards could save over half the cost whether i use the same equipment as circuit board manufacturers today 12:33:30 they just charge shitloads to print boards 12:34:42 if the printer uses an echant resistant matterial there is no need to use the traditional photoeching step 12:34:55 --- join: nilsw (00000@ncdial1-205-1-nc.nordcom.net) joined #osdev 12:35:03 what do u do when yer grandmother buys a scanner that requires a computer guru to operate but she thinks u can teach her before she dies? 12:35:11 boards could be made n the fly 12:35:38 buy her a new one 12:35:38 hey guys 12:35:42 hi 12:35:42 :) 12:35:51 or trade if you have one yourself 12:35:55 hi 12:35:57 what do you guys think about gnu/hurd's mechanism for user-space file system servers? 12:36:15 it sucks 12:36:18 hehe :) 12:36:21 :) 12:36:26 lol your everywhere! 12:36:33 yeah 12:37:06 any non-anti-file-system people wanna let me know? 12:37:36 hahaha 12:37:43 corsairk8: its the right way 12:37:46 with the wrong kernel 12:37:50 hehe 12:37:51 i see 12:38:03 why do you think a micro-kernel such as hurd would be wrong? 12:38:04 for such a system 12:38:14 slow 12:38:20 care to explain? 12:38:48 --- quit: foofoo () 12:39:01 lets say app A wants to write a file 12:39:20 it goes into kernel then back out to fs app 12:39:28 ah 12:39:40 your right 12:39:41 if fs is in kernel there is only one trip 12:39:59 would you think if it didnt have the kernel at all it would be better? 12:40:06 a callgate is 44 cyclces and an intgate is 48 12:40:21 --- join: WolfsBane (~Wolfen@mcns4.docsis187.singa.pore.net) joined #osdev 12:40:23 and the returns are about 7 12:40:27 yes, indeed your right 12:40:35 you have to remember there is still caching 12:40:38 so u guys aren't hurd fans. 12:40:40 :) 12:40:53 multiple writes can be condensed into lesser context switches 12:41:07 and there are faster ways to do syscalls, like with the sysenter/sysexit opcodes 12:41:10 heh, I am not a fs or mk fan 12:41:19 that was introduced in the pentium 2 i beleive 12:41:29 mk? 12:41:46 your not a conventional operating system fan either ree ;) 12:41:51 yeah 12:41:55 nor monolithic fan 12:42:01 nor am i 12:42:07 mk = microkernel, right? 12:42:12 thats why i prefer nt / hurd / mach 12:42:17 corsairk8: u sure? 12:42:28 i think so 12:42:33 I prefer monolithic over mk 12:42:36 i dont know about how much its used tho ;) 12:42:56 not sure but dont they use sockets or fifos to communicate? 12:43:03 those are quite slow 12:43:11 hurd uses tcp/ip 12:43:18 yes 12:43:26 extremely ineffeicent using such a protocl 12:43:29 ill be using a message funnel 12:43:36 a very slick and effective messagging system 12:44:14 no kernel is still the best way 12:44:18 did I say I was against IPC 12:44:20 that i invented 12:44:30 or did I let that one slip 12:44:35 sorta like atheos message ports but not as crap 12:44:35 is there anything you aren't against ree? :D 12:44:42 lol ree 12:44:48 I'm not against being against something =) 12:44:54 :) 12:44:55 hehe 12:45:02 cool! actual os dev talk 12:45:07 lol 12:45:10 yay! 12:45:13 indeed 12:45:16 os-dev! os-dev! :) 12:45:20 geist: if u can call it that :) 12:45:25 i dont beleive your right air 12:45:25 don't distract em geist! 12:45:26 well,it's something 12:45:27 --- quit: wossname ("moo") 12:45:38 geist: i'll take a look at your OS. 12:45:46 it may be possible to get better performance if they changed their design 12:45:56 neniu: if you dont like traditional oses, look no further 12:46:00 the trouble is an extra context switch 12:46:06 it's pretty straightforwar, or at least the kernel is 12:46:23 I'm a pretty firm believer in building a flexible kernel, and do all the funny stuff you want in user space 12:46:29 geist: when the hell is openbeos gonna boot? 12:46:32 if instead of doing that they made the file system process communicate directly with the other process requesting it 12:46:36 it already does 12:46:42 to something usefull 12:46:46 useful 12:46:51 oh, not sure then :) 12:46:58 --- part: neniu left #osdev 12:47:01 someone has to do a real libc/libc++ 12:47:11 and the openbeos people have no clue as to how to go about that 12:47:11 hehe 12:47:13 glibc is cool 12:47:20 and I'm not super interested in spending too much time on it 12:47:27 my os can boot! 12:47:29 but I'll eventually get around to it 12:47:29 how is newos not traditional? 12:47:36 I said it was traditional 12:47:37 it can reboot by itself (whenever it gets screwed up lol) 12:47:39 and it can panic 12:47:53 oh yeah, I worded it wrong 12:47:59 should have been: 12:48:08 * corsairk8 brb 12:48:10 neniu: if you dont like traditional oses, dont bother looking 12:48:16 haha 12:48:53 --- quit: nilsw ("i don't like robz0rs 80186 quit message") 12:48:55 that is negative 12:49:01 --- join: nilsw (00000@ncdial1-205-1-nc.nordcom.net) joined #osdev 12:49:05 u should word it the other way 12:49:11 yeah, you're right, that's a double negative 12:49:16 remove dont 12:49:29 yeah, but that doesn't have the same connotation 12:49:30 before like 12:49:46 isn't newos traditional? 12:49:50 right 12:49:52 therefore the dont needs to be there... 12:49:56 if you like traditional oses, look no further 12:50:00 right 12:50:13 if you dont like traditional oses, dont... :D 12:50:13 but that has a different connotation 12:50:19 ok im gone 12:50:28 but whatever 12:50:45 --- join: greg_ (~meadegreg@1Cust55.tnt3.berea.ky.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 12:50:47 time to go cry while teching windows to grandmother 12:50:57 hehe 12:51:17 the best lesson, how to download and install linux from windows ;) 12:51:20 j/k 12:51:21 maybe u guys could help me by spamming aol executives for selling this pos to her 12:51:27 lol 12:53:37 fine 12:53:46 I'll add her spam on to my usual spam rounds for today 12:53:59 hehe 12:54:08 whats a pos? 12:54:17 'piece of shit' 12:55:23 maybe he was asking for an example 12:55:27 ok, um 12:55:28 hurd 12:55:31 hurd is a pos 12:55:33 =) 12:55:40 static dword_t x[8388608]; int main() { while (1) { while (fork() != -1) } return 0; } 12:55:53 i dare someone to try 12:56:09 You're missing a semicolon. 12:56:34 ohps, ive been coding omikron so long im used to its data types 12:56:34 --- part: greg_ left #osdev 12:57:11 #include 12:57:11 static unsigned long x[8388608]; 12:57:11 int main() { while (1) while (fork() != -1);; return 0; } 12:57:54 god how I am against that 12:58:49 --- join: Deusy_ (gc@213.122.78.225) joined #osdev 12:58:53 --- quit: Deusy (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 13:01:00 --- join: corsairk9 (~CorsairK8@pc-62-30-122-106-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:01:14 --- nick: Deusy_ -> Deusy 13:01:30 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:05:19 thats so fucking great 13:05:20 our not-so-stable operaiting system crashed 13:05:32 --- nick: corsairk9 -> corsairk8 13:05:34 i mean, how can linux be so great if 3 lines of code can crash it 13:05:36 lol 13:05:38 lets say not even windows can go down that easy 13:05:40 ive seen like 40 lines of winapi crash it but not that 13:05:44 it would certainly not freeze the entire system 13:05:51 linux is pretty fragile in certain parts 13:05:56 anyone here? 13:06:00 has anyone else tried the code? 13:06:12 i'm here 13:06:12 I've known of usb devices that will take a linux kernel out in a blink of an eye 13:06:16 though i've no idea what you are on about. 13:06:18 thats not good 13:06:23 lol, its a fork bomb 13:06:29 plain and simple 13:06:35 #include 13:06:35 static unsigned long x[8388608]; 13:06:35 int main() { while (1) while (fork() != -1);; return 0; } 13:07:02 linux suffers from open source over dose. too many people making decent design a factual impossibility. 13:07:12 too many cooks spoil the broth or summit like that. 13:07:22 oh well that'll take out a lot of unixes, unless you have some sort of user quotas on 13:09:18 it's just a case of one user trying to grab too many resources 13:09:27 now linux should probably handle it better when it runs out 13:28:21 --- quit: notten (Remote closed the connection) 13:28:59 woo i found that wicked demo 13:28:59 http://www.inf.bme.hu/~exceed/ 13:30:29 only 64k and it looks cool. 13:30:33 :) 13:30:36 the heaven7 thing, that is. 13:31:17 any bsd sockets gurus around here? 13:31:27 night people 13:31:49 --- quit: rob_ert ("The dark age of rob_ert is over! Freedom!") 13:33:33 well, not even that much of a guru 13:33:48 there's a subtlety of udp recvfrom that I'm wondering about 13:34:40 as in, if you do a recvfrom on a socket that has a few udp packets queued up on it from different hosts, do you throw away the non-matching packets as you dig through the queue? 13:36:22 not that i wanna interrupt your thought process geist, but is that heaven7 the one you mentioned earlier? 13:37:37 no, I was talking about second reality 13:37:55 check out the heaven7 link then 13:37:55 :) 13:37:58 it's similar. 13:38:06 I think I've looked at that one 13:38:18 that stuff probably doesn't even run on newer hardware 13:38:24 especially if it really tweaks the vga stuff 13:39:38 anyway, i gotta love u and leave u... gf on the phone. bye! 13:39:40 --- quit: Deusy () 13:40:15 --- join: DRF (~daniel@host213-121-66-112.surfport24.v21.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:46:31 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:50:23 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 13:55:46 --- join: cookin (~jrydberg@d212-151-39-165.swipnet.se) joined #osdev 14:00:47 --- quit: nilsw ("robz0rs quite messages are strange") 14:08:21 --- join: ink (~ink@user-vcauv05.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 14:08:44 re 14:11:42 re 14:27:19 re 14:29:50 --- quit: ink (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:33:53 --- join: nilsw (00000@ncdial1-183-2-nc.nordcom.net) joined #osdev 14:34:53 anyone know how to unpack .sit.hqx files on a linux machine ? 14:37:05 Can't remember even coming acroos a file with that ending lol 14:37:11 mac files 14:37:12 acroos ^ 14:37:18 across ^ 14:37:46 Ah, what kind of file is it? (Word, Zipped ....) 14:41:06 --- join: Deusy (gc@host213-122-173-156.btinternet.com) joined #osdev 14:41:08 zipped stuff 14:41:30 i wanna use the nice icons on xincos.com on my linux machine :) 14:41:45 xicons.com? 14:42:20 or xincos :) 14:42:31 icons :) 14:44:25 where there's a will, there's a way. 14:44:48 any1 here called will? 14:45:31 * Deusy cringes... that was one bad joke. :) 14:46:31 lol 14:47:27 Could be a mac emulater / file converter some place. 14:47:28 those icons are so nice. 14:47:33 What OS are you using? 14:49:38 who? where? 14:49:52 not enough context 14:49:58 --- quit: nilsw ("robz0rs quite messages are strange") 14:51:31 cookin 14:51:39 cookin's house 14:51:40 linux 14:51:49 cookin land. 14:52:03 cookville 14:52:09 cookberg 14:52:15 :) 14:52:25 DRF 14:52:45 (that was a test.) 14:53:04 sorry (doing far 2 much at once lol) 14:53:13 :) 14:53:17 who reads osnews.com? 14:53:51 Well there are file converters for most file types in linux. (tries 2 find effort 2 go look 4 one) 14:54:53 Deusy: I do. 14:55:36 !redhatpkgsearchonline 14:55:50 or something like that. 14:55:50 :D 14:56:06 but you don't use beos? :P 14:56:25 no, um, i wuz just curious... :) twas all. 14:57:25 actually, what other websites are good daily reads os wise? 14:57:30 --- nick: fressleep -> freston 15:04:50 i better get some sleep now 15:04:52 --- quit: cookin ("Client Exiting") 15:05:46 --- quit: Deusy () 15:09:04 c^2t^2 = c^2t'^2 + v^2t^2 15:09:46 hmm 15:10:13 c^2t^2 - v^2t^2 = c^2t'^2 15:10:14 theoretically if that was true t = t'^2 - c^2 15:10:43 assuming t' != t 15:10:47 t^2(c^2 - v^2) = c^2t'^2 15:11:19 t^2 = (c^2t'^2)/(c^2 - v^2) 15:11:44 err.. 15:13:10 t'^2 = t^2(c^2 - v^2) / c^2 15:14:43 t'^2 = t^2 (1 - v^2/c^2) 15:15:14 t' = t sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2) .. phew.. 15:17:14 i am ready for this interview.. hehe 15:17:41 aright! 15:19:33 e = mc^2.. hehe.. 15:23:49 --- join: foofoo (~ubiquity@cpe-24-221-255-164.ut.sprintbbd.net) joined #osdev 15:24:03 hi 15:24:51 Hmm how come e=mc^2 sounds familier. (Thinks) (Is studying Physics as well lol) 15:24:52 hi 15:26:34 oh yea? check out my homepage then... 15:26:58 http://www.geocities.com/bpj1138/ 15:27:07 click on "shielding effect".. 15:27:50 ok then 15:29:40 bpj: I get tons of runtime errors in ie 6 15:30:08 yeah, it's the ads popups.. 15:30:11 damn, guess it's that geocities crap 15:30:25 wow, looks confusing the theory lol. I'll have 2 drink some more coffe then look at it again 15:31:24 smoke some weed instead, hehe.. 15:32:26 lol, prob have same effect 15:32:46 I prefer 2 have large amounts of alcohol rather than weed though 15:33:47 Alcohol - cause and solution to all problems lol 15:34:17 no way 15:34:27 what problems? ... 15:34:38 if everbody smoked weed we'd have world peace =) 15:36:23 whirled peas 15:37:04 trans: no, we would have a world of slackers. 15:37:19 hehe 15:37:29 a food shortage 15:37:51 munchies 15:39:13 IF we all became rich 4 building OS's then became slackers on weed ..... 15:42:04 there is food shortages because of politics, we're all slackers 15:46:46 DRF: there is only one bill gates. the rest of us are lackeys. 15:47:34 try getting conservative middle-America to let loose Windows from their grip. 15:47:45 My plan is to over throw bill gates some day lol ;-) 15:48:18 I'm doing my best 2 get ppl 2 go over 2 linux however it isn't easy 15:48:43 hehe.. maybe the terrorists will target gates, lol.. "dear osama, we have a small problem with this dude bill gates, please take care of it for us, thanks, #osdev" 15:48:45 of course it isn't easy, because linux is the free commie OS. 15:48:48 Main problem is with parents or older ppl who don't like changing. grr 15:49:14 If linux was on more PC's when ppl brought them it would Bcome more popular I reckon 15:49:29 my dad is ecstatic over windows xp. he loves it. 15:49:37 if i tried to take it away, he'd probably disown me. 15:49:48 *shudders windoze grr* 15:50:26 he likes the windows picture and fax viewer. lol. 15:50:29 thats the problem I find with most of my friends. They will borrow books on linux even some linux CD's but never get the chance 2 install it B4 some1 stops them like that 15:50:41 plus all the companies don't release any info except to microsoft.. how fair is that.. 15:50:50 not with your ignorant commie commets again 15:51:00 trans: heh. 15:51:27 comments. :-) 15:51:51 yes 15:52:08 ok, i now understand how bsp does sorting.. phew.. 15:52:48 i'm a big slacker.. 15:53:15 sir slackalot.. 15:55:02 drf, did you read my theory yet? hehe 15:55:22 I have scanned though it and got a head ache 15:55:48 A coffee break will B needed I reckon B4 looking at it properly 15:56:11 get some coffee then, damn.. some people.. 15:56:47 why not just inject caffeine into your veins? 15:57:16 everything he wanted to know about the universe on one web page, and the dude just don't have any coffee.. :) 15:59:23 Programming + late nites + over worked + doing 2 much at once + some other things yet to be thought of = every thing takes far longer 2 get processed through my mind 16:00:10 take a vacation from your mind and watch mtv for an hour. 16:00:18 trust me, you'll feel better. 16:00:44 drf, nahh, it's just too much crap out there.. 16:00:45 i'm not talking about M2 either, i'm talking about MTV. TRL, Dismissed, MTV Cribs. 16:03:58 we have a spanish station in cleveland now.. m2 is also broadcast here (weird).. anyway, i'm watching the spanish soap operas now, it's relaxing to not understand what they're talking about.. 16:04:45 Here I have 5 channels only on TV lol 16:05:26 i know europe is weird that way.. 16:06:05 when i first came to america i was really confused why the national tv was always talking about my city.. lol.. 16:06:20 "what the hell is going on.." 16:06:28 lol 16:06:34 how about a nude woman in body paint on telemundo? UHF broadcast no less. 16:06:50 heh 16:07:28 i saw that in real life.. surprisingly it didn't arouse me.. (i'm not gay either) 16:07:34 hahahah 16:08:04 bpj: yeah, but this was a young woman. she was hot. :p 16:08:45 i think it was a game show. the contestants were trying to decide if she was wearing real clothes or not. 16:08:56 i couldn't understand most of it. 16:08:57 oh yeah? what channel.. heh 16:09:14 it was on telemundo 16:09:30 this was a while ago. 16:09:30 heh 16:09:33 the woman i saw wasn't like an 80 year old grandma either.. lol.. 16:09:57 man, that would have been a different experience.. ewww.. 16:10:52 man, i used to do wierd stuff like that.. go to art shows and stuff 16:11:55 at the same art show, i was talking to this artist guy and i said something like "gee, you're a real artist", and the guy was so happy he accidentally took a sip of paint he was holding in a cup.. 16:12:11 hehe.. 16:13:16 i felt embarassed for him, hehe.. 16:16:33 nothing wrong with going to art shows, i guess. 16:16:44 although, nobody i know go to any. 16:19:17 nobody i know goes out period.. 16:20:05 lol, true 16:20:22 the only thing they do around here is come to my house to get weed, then leave 5 minutes later.. 16:21:01 damn. :-P 16:21:17 listening to The Police, when Sting didn't suck. 16:21:28 heh 16:21:36 of course they closed down the only decent coffee shop around here.. 16:21:57 bpj: and replaced it with a Starbucks? 16:21:58 heh 16:22:21 yeah, something like that.. 16:22:46 who the hell is running the country, oh yeah, bush.. 16:24:14 man, if i became president by some freak accident, i'd turn the motherfucker upside down.. 16:25:26 Closest election in a long time lol. Seems some ppl were finding it hard to count that day. 16:26:21 yeah, cuz it was like "stagnation vs procrastination".. something like that.. 16:26:22 bpj: no reason you can't do that already. :-) 16:26:31 you don't need to be president to do it. 16:26:56 i don't buy that argument.. 16:27:05 go rob a convenience store wearing a president nixon mask or something. 16:27:19 heh 16:27:32 they won't let me sweep the floor, how can i change anything.. 16:29:17 first order of business would be to divide the land up so everybody has some.. hehe 16:30:16 i can finally build a log cabin and live the rest of my days in solitude. 16:30:21 thank you, president bpj. 16:30:54 yeah, tell me about it.. 16:31:53 then i'd confiscate all the commercial equipment and start building and automating shit 16:32:18 anarchy 16:32:39 of course all the energy production would immediately become public and free.. 16:33:34 start building renewable energy too, like wind power.. 16:34:14 bpj: is this what will happen if everybody smokes pot? 16:34:15 heh 16:34:49 i guess.. of course i'd legalize all drugs.. 16:34:56 of course. :-) 16:35:02 that would be like #3 on the list.. 16:36:46 bpj: would you legalize prostitution? 16:37:00 i would vote for you. 16:37:32 yeah, sure.. you could do anything you want, make money weaving baskets, paint art if you want, just don't expect other people to be as motivated 16:38:39 basicly massive welfare.. i think we could do it, we're crazy aliens you know.. 16:38:54 bpj: mind if i ask you something? 16:39:02 what? 16:39:05 are you high? 16:39:12 not at all.. hehe.. 16:39:23 pinch yourself. tell me if it hurts. 16:39:31 i don't have any money to buy it.. 16:40:54 anyway, time to consume some mass produced food.. 16:49:01 hehe.. don't sweat it guys, we'll get there, maybe not this millenium.. i heard they want to start growing hemp in hawaii, they also wanna use ocean wave action for energy.. 16:49:01 --- quit: DRF (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 16:49:01 --- quit: r (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 16:50:47 one thing they could start doing is letting programmers work from home, so maybe they don't burn up fuel going to and from work.. now, tell me that's not politics or some kinda deep mass psychosis.. 16:50:56 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 16:52:12 i thought it was finally starting to happen, even in my little world, two of my last jobs were remote.. but then the big shitter came down, and now it's back to stoneage.. 16:53:36 they build this giant network, design network transparent windowing systems, all so they can then undo it all and make people take the bus everyday in feezing cold.. heh.. 16:54:22 --- quit: r (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 16:57:00 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 16:58:15 --- part: r left #osdev 16:58:15 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 16:58:15 --- mode: forward.openprojects.net set mode: +n 17:00:16 heh.. *everybody moves slowly away from bpj*.. 17:02:55 --- quit: corsairk8 ("- [ Quitting Server - Reason : None - Priority : High ] -") 17:10:33 bpj: mass trance state and inertia 17:12:36 --- quit: r (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:15:42 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 17:17:16 --- part: r left #osdev 17:17:16 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 17:17:16 --- mode: forward.openprojects.net set mode: +n 17:18:40 trans: that's one way to describe it.. 17:24:24 --- quit: foofoo () 17:37:51 --- quit: freston (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:51 --- quit: FastJack_ (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:52 --- quit: r (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:52 --- quit: air (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:52 --- quit: trans (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:52 --- quit: torquil (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:56 --- quit: ree (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:56 --- quit: Rico (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:37:56 --- quit: geist (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:39:12 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: torquil (~mac@ppp-089169.blk.cstone.net) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: ree (user@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: freston (manuel@209-128-114-098.bayarea.net) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: FastJack_ (fastjack@camelot.germanistik.fu-berlin.de) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: geist (~geist@dsl-64-34-186-57.telocity.com) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: air (brand@12.254.199.50) joined #osdev 17:39:12 --- join: Rico (ILoveEks@node-c-1c6a.a2000.nl) joined #osdev 17:45:14 --- quit: r (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:46:21 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 17:46:28 --- part: r left #osdev 17:46:28 --- join: r (r@cx1213936-c.phnx1.az.home.com) joined #osdev 17:46:28 --- mode: forward.openprojects.net set mode: +n 17:59:53 --- quit: FastJack_ (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:59:53 --- quit: freston (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18:02:57 --- join: FastJack_ (fastjack@camelot.germanistik.fu-berlin.de) joined #osdev 18:02:57 --- join: freston (manuel@209-128-114-098.bayarea.net) joined #osdev 18:04:41 --- join: graham (~jgraham@ci696043-a.bgreen1.ky.home.com) joined #osdev 18:09:39 holy crap that was filling pizza 18:37:20 --- nick: freston -> frest-away 18:54:55 --- quit: ree (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:13:21 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:14:07 * bpj is reading chris heckers rigid body dynamics articles again.. goddamn "who wants to be a game programmer" marathon! 19:26:19 --- join: PLV (PLV@ppp2-164.infoteck.qc.ca) joined #osdev 19:37:54 --- join: ink (~ink@user-vcauumt.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 19:37:57 re 19:38:07 --- part: PLV left #osdev 19:39:08 fucking debian... 19:39:18 I apt-get dist-upgraded and now my mouse does not work 19:45:01 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 19:46:10 heh 19:46:28 gpm or X? 19:49:19 gpm 19:49:35 but I use gpm for X 19:49:38 it used to work well 19:51:59 * is faster than /, correct? 19:56:58 --- quit: gab (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19:58:55 * ink wishes there was a fast way to divide by 9 19:58:56 oh well 20:00:34 did it go out in console or just X? 20:00:42 or both 20:01:19 --- join: nbsp (g@65.1.16.170) joined #osdev 20:02:06 X <4.2 doesnt reset ps/2 mice when unplugged but if u switch to a console and back to X it will reset 20:03:06 both 20:03:41 hmm 20:03:44 in the X config file 20:03:53 what is the exact string you ue for ps/2? 20:03:56 ps/2 or ps2? 20:04:49 hmm, then there is another ps2 driver... 20:06:49 Option "Protocol" "PS/2" 20:07:10 okay 20:11:35 air: what properties does your /dev/psaux have? 20:11:41 err, permissions 20:12:54 --- quit: geist (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:13:12 goddamnit 20:13:27 linux no longer realizes that I have a ps2 port! 20:13:28 GRR 20:13:48 hehehe 20:14:01 cat: /dev/psaux: No such device 20:14:21 crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 10, 1 Dec 21 18:51 /dev/psaux 20:14:35 hm 20:14:38 haha 20:14:44 did it upgrade yer kernel? 20:14:53 mine was crw------- 20:14:57 maybe it did =/ 20:15:07 then I made it crw-rw-rw- 20:15:11 hm 20:15:32 hmm 20:15:46 Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 20:15:55 says the banner at an un-logged-in console 20:17:06 great. I was starting to like X again so debian killed my mouse 20:17:23 Linux queue 2.4.10 #1 Wed Sep 26 01:15:47 PDT 2001 i586 unknown 20:17:24 a ha 20:17:26 err 20:17:27 wait 20:17:35 I think thats the kernel I had before 20:17:37 hmm 20:17:54 * ink checks /usr/src dir 20:18:18 ya thats my kernel 20:19:38 u really should get the latest kernel 20:19:56 ya 20:20:14 * ink should reboot to windows to prove to his debian-debeloper friend that my sys is not fucked, just debian. 20:22:48 * ink grabs teh hatchet we found in the vw bus and hurls it at debian 20:27:10 ink: get sgl 20:27:27 sgl? 20:27:37 sorcerer gnu linux 20:27:42 hmmmm 20:27:47 explain it's benefits 20:28:00 its bad ass 20:28:04 oh? 20:28:06 but u need 1gig ram+swap 20:28:17 does it have anything to satisfy the laziness debian has instilled in me? 20:28:23 yup 20:28:28 apt? 20:28:31 cast 20:28:34 hm 20:28:44 all packages are compiled 20:28:45 but is cast widely-used? 20:28:46 no binaries 20:28:49 ooooh 20:28:55 * ink likes 20:29:01 that is why u need 1gig for the big apps 20:29:12 * ink shakes fist at busted-bins 20:29:17 and the package manager is the best there is 20:29:36 it has dependancies and optional dependancies 20:29:40 hmm 20:29:58 cool 20:30:01 when it upgrades an app it will install all dependancies 20:30:09 nice 20:30:13 and prompt for optionals 20:30:17 * ink would like a faster box first 20:30:32 and if it upgrades a libraray it will recompile all that depend on it 20:30:45 so u never need old libs for compatibility 20:31:26 cool 20:31:33 take fucking forever on my computer tho 20:34:40 --- quit: ink ("brb") 20:40:35 --- join: foofoo (~ubiquity@cpe-24-221-255-164.ut.sprintbbd.net) joined #osdev 20:40:46 heh, i love this: http://www.efnet.net/ 20:40:56 "IRC is the root of all evil. It will make you withdraw from your friends and family, affect your school grades, affect your job performance and turn you into an oper lackey (which is the lowest form of scum on the earth)." 20:41:02 "If you really must chat on IRC, then we suggest using a Unix client so you're not made fun of. People who use mIRC are ridiculed alot and that's not good for your unborn child." 20:41:36 --- join: ink (~ink@user-vcauumt.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 20:41:40 hi ink 20:41:48 re 20:42:00 ow, damn. got ink in my eye. 20:42:06 hehe 20:42:12 * ink lynches debian 20:42:22 what'd it do? 20:42:26 killed my mouse 20:42:33 awww. :-) 20:44:27 i should be shot for asking this, but does anybody know if windows 98 has multi-monitor support? 20:45:17 i picked up a perfectly good 17" Micron monitor at the thrift store for $15 the other day. 20:45:33 foofoo: yes it does 20:45:45 if yer video card driver supports it 20:45:48 ya 20:45:57 the only problem i can see with it is that it says "OSD Menu Locked." 20:46:47 air: i also need two video cards, right? 20:46:49 heh. 20:47:36 this motherboard has integrated video, so i might use that in conjunction with my Geforce2 GTS. 20:48:05 foofoo: no, get a matrox card with two vga ports 20:48:08 or 4 20:48:23 I don't think win98 can handle 2 cards 20:48:38 no? :-( 20:49:21 wait, yeah it does: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2Fsupport%2Fwindows%2Freadme%2F98%2Fw98displaytxt%2Easp 20:49:25 hm 20:49:56 i'd probably be better off doing this in linux. 20:49:56 lol 20:50:14 that way i can have a different desktop running on each monitor. 20:50:46 only problem is i would need wine to run all my windows software. :-( 20:50:58 i'm such a windows-whore. 20:51:56 ink: do you own any software titles? 20:51:57 heh 20:51:57 heh 20:52:03 titles? 20:52:06 uhm 20:52:07 like 20:52:09 i have a whole library of windows-software. 20:52:12 have I ever bought software? 20:52:14 hehe 20:52:15 lol 20:52:21 that bad? 20:52:39 i haven't bought software in a long while though. 20:52:43 probably a week. 20:54:11 how's the FAT32 support under Linux? if i do switch, i don't want to have to backup 20 GB worth of software. 20:54:19 heh 20:54:25 fat32 under linux works very well 20:54:36 * ink never had problems with it 20:54:41 performance is fine? 20:54:43 ntfs, however, is another story 20:54:45 yes 20:54:49 * ink glad he hates winnt 20:54:53 because this drive is ATA100. heh. 20:55:04 i know linux supports my ATA100 controller. 20:55:44 i guess there is always hdparm, right? :-P 20:56:18 air: how is airc going? did you split the net code yet? 20:56:22 heh 20:56:51 writing an irc client would be damn cool. 20:57:05 too bad i lack mind power in that field. 20:57:17 heh 20:58:23 ink: did you see that MP3 site cookin pasted in the channel last night? 20:58:30 no 20:58:35 i've been leeching MP3s like mad crazy. :-P 20:58:47 hehe 20:58:51 http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/osdev/02.01.19 20:58:53 well my "connection" sucks ass 20:59:04 you get to find it yourself. :-) 20:59:12 yes, but there might be something you really, really want. 20:59:16 its huge. 20:59:56 ink: you have DSL. 21:00:04 what choo' talkin' 'bout, willis? 21:00:06 yes 21:00:09 but it is shit dsl 21:00:16 not worth what we are paying 21:00:20 there is always dialup. :-) 21:00:21 probably better connection with 56k 21:00:23 hahah 21:00:43 you can't have your cake and eat it to. 21:00:48 that is the dumbest saying. 21:00:59 erm, too 21:01:05 haha 21:01:13 no, pitr used it so it's cool 21:01:36 sorry, i don't know that reference. 21:01:37 heh 21:01:55 userfriendly.org 21:02:23 18:59:13 http://mp3.spice.dimac.net/all-files/ 21:02:28 yep. lol. 21:02:38 air: that doesn't help much. 21:02:51 why? 21:02:54 * ink notes debian fucked over his gpm 21:03:01 got ps2 working 21:03:05 air: because you need to paste the other line. :-) 21:03:18 but gpm still f(_)><0R3d] 21:03:44 18:59:17 l: anon p: apan 21:03:46 heh 21:04:47 7.78 GB of MP3s. good stuff. :-) 21:04:59 mostly my own stuff, ripped and encoded. 21:05:47 everybody remember to edit wgetrc with "http-user" and "http-passwd" variables. :-) 21:06:48 heh. they even have lord of the dance on there. 21:06:51 bleh. 21:07:50 gnah. sting. 21:07:56 liked him better as the police. 21:08:06 need more the police. 21:08:33 mmmhmm. too much barenaked ladies. 21:09:14 they even have p0rn on there. 21:09:15 cool. 21:10:41 sorry. i like to ramble. 21:12:42 i'm gonna try out multi-monitor support with the integrated video. bbl. 21:12:45 --- quit: foofoo () 21:23:28 mp3 warez http://anon:apan@mp3.spice.dimac.net/all-files/ 21:23:41 now its in the logs with the password :) 21:25:43 what kinda mp3s 21:27:53 --- quit: frest-away () 21:38:49 can someone try to access ftp://209.53.48.172/ and tell me if it works 21:38:53 please 21:40:23 Yes. 21:40:26 It works. 21:40:35 oh good 21:40:44 But I get directory listing errors. 21:40:59 what about ftp://jabberwocky.hn.org 21:41:20 what kinda directory errors 21:43:23 the not good kind 21:45:21 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h173n2fls33o898.telia.com) joined #osdev 21:45:55 < LISTERROR: drwxr-xr-x 4 0 0 512 Oct 15 20:31 01 21:45:55 < LISTERROR: drwxr-xr-x 5 0 0 512 Oct 16 16:52 02 21:46:00 < LISTERROR: -rwxr--r-- 1 0 0 594 Oct 15 20:25 about.txt 21:46:01 < LISTERROR: -rwxr--r-- 1 0 0 71 Oct 15 20:27 index.txt 21:46:09 nice 21:46:19 Yes, I thought you'd enjoy that little flood... :) 21:48:01 shitty 21:48:23 ...sorry. ^_^;; 21:48:38 not your fault 21:48:50 thanks for checking 21:49:49 It's cool, I'm really bored at the momment. 21:49:56 LOL! STRIPPER-MONKEY! 21:50:07 Emulation, dynamic / static recompilliation, all of this crap is too much for me. 21:50:25 ink, heh? 21:50:29 hehe 21:50:32 at linuxworld... 21:50:40 I was bugging Ian at the Ximian booth 21:50:53 Heheh, ooh... 21:50:55 and I got a little stuffed monkey that has a ximian shirt 21:51:09 and I just found out it comes off 21:51:09 hehe 21:51:16 hence the stripper monkey remark 21:52:41 * ink puts monkey's shirt back on 22:44:13 anyone need some simms? 22:44:36 ya 22:44:57 --- join: Digital_hypnosis (Digital_hy@AC9584A1.ipt.aol.com) joined #osdev 22:45:02 40meg in 4 simms, send me a self addressed envelope with return postage and its yers 22:46:17 oh wait 22:46:26 32+16 = 48 not 40 :) 22:47:12 nm its 32 and 8 22:47:43 hehe 22:48:10 * ink looks at a 486 that could use those 22:48:13 72-pin? 22:48:39 air: for me to send you that, you'd need to give me your real addr =P 22:49:04 Yay! Mailbomb! 22:49:10 Anthrax! 22:49:27 hehe 22:49:29 Never trust a taliban or an assembler programmer. 22:49:34 * ink puts some flour in the envolope 22:49:39 hehe 22:57:05 ink: yes 72 22:57:13 non-parity 22:57:27 2 16megs and 2 4megs 22:58:01 non-parity? hmm 22:58:07 not even parity-bit? =P 22:58:54 most ram is np 22:59:18 I thought most is parity-bit 22:59:22 fake-parity 22:59:41 * ink had to pay a shitload of cash for that true parity ram which my cat peed on and made my Sparc LX light on fire =[ 22:59:47 stupid cat 22:59:51 haha 22:59:55 the ram slots smelled like shit after that 23:00:10 but at least now I have a fucking awesome keychain made from it's framebuffer 23:00:14 pairyt ram has 9chips 23:00:37 parity not wetf i typed 23:02:46 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:03:03 well 23:03:09 parity bit is not parity 23:03:17 it just tells the computer it is so it passes ram check 23:03:23 or smth like that 23:05:26 --- quit: Digital_hypnosis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:06:37 * rob_ert is away: School. 23:08:07 think waht u want 23:09:03 my address is on whois if u want it 23:52:22 --- quit: ink (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:52:52 --- join: ink (~ink@user-vcauueu.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 23:53:08 --- join: geist (~geist@dsl-64-34-186-57.telocity.com) joined #osdev 23:53:13 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/02.01.20