00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/02.03.14 00:00:24 --- quit: ink (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:02:20 --- join: adu (~andrew@dsl-64-130-166-225.telocity.com) joined #osdev 00:02:38 hi 00:02:53 damn 00:03:23 stupid mouse just went out 00:03:25 shit 00:04:00 i hate that you can't use macos without a mouse, kb's are wonderful, don't they understand that ?? 00:04:11 --- quit: adu (Client Quit) 00:15:06 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:15:56 --- quit: air ("[ http://www.qzx.com ] ") 00:26:51 --- join: ink (~ink@user-vcauujr.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 00:29:03 --- join: brand (brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 01:11:12 --- join: trans (~trans@209.53.48.172) joined #osdev 01:52:05 --- nick: ink -> ink|sleepy 02:09:55 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:22:14 --- quit: witten (Remote closed the connection) 02:22:15 --- join: witten (~witten@adsl-gte-la-216-86-210-121.mminternet.com) joined #osdev 02:47:27 --- join: air (brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 02:47:46 --- quit: brand ("[ http://www.qzx.com ] ") 03:05:42 --- quit: witten (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:11:49 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 03:21:39 --- quit: Mathis ("connection reset by beer") 04:15:04 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:31:10 --- quit: Rico (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:38:59 --- join: Mathis (~Mathias@gstw-d9b89f09.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 04:52:16 --- join: lynx (~lynx@p50809C58.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 05:03:35 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h173n2fls33o898.telia.com) joined #osdev 05:07:48 --- nick: lynx -> lynx|chefcook 05:35:24 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 05:49:04 --- nick: lynx|chefcook -> lynx_beautinap 05:58:13 --- quit: lynx_beautinap ("[BX] Occifer, take me drunk, I'm home") 07:25:12 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:02:21 --- join: [Mathis] (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f07.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 08:18:14 hi 08:19:15 <[Mathis]> hi 08:20:28 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:22:29 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 08:49:28 --- join: elmex (nobanana@pD9E3475E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 08:49:30 hiho 08:50:10 hallo :)( 08:51:53 hm, i dont wanna begin with 'i want to write a os' now ;) it sounds so newbie-like. 08:53:53 good boy :) 08:54:06 another bad thing to start with is: "I want to write an OS in C++" 08:54:15 Or.. "I know BASIC and a little C" 08:54:42 And maybe "I'll work hard, you'll see that I can make it!" 08:55:21 i know already a bit AVR (Atmel Flashmicrocontroller) ASM, and i am willing to learn the asm stuff, which is still needed for an os. i would write it in C. (thoughts about C++ are there, but i dont think C++ can make a fast os) 08:55:33 --- join: Veachian64 (V64@A010-0954.TYLR.splitrock.net) joined #osdev 08:55:37 --- part: Veachian64 left #osdev 08:55:58 :-) 08:56:07 That seems a bit more reasonable. 08:57:20 heh ,thanks ;) 08:57:47 I used to do the same, but then I noticed I was too asm addicted to use C :) 08:57:55 i dont have big plans in writing a whole os. but i want to know some basics about it, and maybe try some nice thingies ;) 08:59:05 but for what do i need asm ? 08:59:17 or need to know asm 09:00:06 hm 09:00:14 I would really recommend learning it 09:00:25 since it gives you a feeling of how the PC works 09:00:38 with only C, it's easy to miss the details 09:01:28 hm. 09:01:37 i know how a microcontroller works ;) 09:02:44 and i not going to write my own bootloader, grub is just fine 09:04:20 well, if you know asm for one CPU/controller, another isn't that hard to learn 09:04:28 you know the way an asm programmer think ;) 09:05:39 hm, in general. but i dont have much experience. but i have some c,c++ and perl experience to deal with. 09:06:00 but i know, how to make loops and if-like contructs in avr-asm ;) 09:06:56 what specs does this avr have? 09:07:06 how much memory/word size etc.. 09:08:10 2k for program (flash) 09:08:15 8 bit 09:08:33 almost like 16x84 series then :) 09:08:34 2 io-ports with 8 bits to set ;) 09:08:42 yea 09:09:18 hm 09:09:22 i may read AoA ? 09:11:12 hrm 09:11:26 if you got a month to spare, sure 09:11:28 :) 09:11:36 I've never read it 09:11:42 only used it as reference 09:11:46 urg. no quicker way for learning enough asm for a os ? 09:11:56 read some quick introduction 09:12:08 and then check some OS soruces 09:12:11 the asm parts 09:12:26 see if you understand, if not, check the reference 09:12:59 * ZZZZZzzzzlowcoder doesn't even remeber how he learned x86 asm.. Too long ago.. 09:13:05 --- nick: ZZZZZzzzzlowcoder -> slowcoder 09:13:44 morrn :) 09:13:52 slowcoder: Bad memory, eh? :) 09:13:56 hm 09:14:12 (I don't quite remember either, even though it was just like 3 years ago) 09:14:16 rob_ert: Coded asm as as a child.. 09:14:46 slowcoder: your happy. i began C with 14 or 15 09:15:22 now i am 17 and know C, C++, Perl, a big PHP, QBasic, and some parts of other high-level languages. but no ASM 09:15:28 slowcoder: Ich auch :P 09:15:47 (I am a child now, if anyone is wondering) 09:16:20 elmex: Do you "know" or _understand_ C ? 09:16:46 slowcoder: hm, what do you mean with understand C ? 09:17:03 do you mean the way of coding C? 09:17:45 how C is translated to machine code? 09:17:52 Yea.. 09:18:00 through a parser ? 09:18:07 hehe 09:18:14 lexer -> parser -> asm code -> gas -> machine code 09:18:16 How the compiler works.. How your structs gets organised in the memory.. 09:18:36 slowcoder: i wrote a script language in C 09:18:55 (not released -> unuseable -> 2nd perl ;) 09:19:07 (I suspect the answer is no, slowie) 09:19:24 (me too) 09:19:46 elmex: Rejoice! You learning ASM will have wonderful effect on your c-code 09:19:47 (yay) 09:19:50 slowcoder: i can write C programs, but i dont really know the basic low-level stuff in x86 hw 09:20:14 low-level.. Hmm.. ALU,FPU,MMU 09:20:30 rob_ert: the avr chip had a small ALU too ;) 09:20:48 at least for two 16-bit registers ;) 09:20:52 elmex: No shit.. It would have been kind of difficult to do 1+1 otherwise.. 09:21:12 slowcoder: i can imagine 09:21:24 ich muß essen... brb 09:21:40 hm, i too, soon 09:21:49 rob_ert: Okej.. Ha det så kul.. :) 09:22:55 hm, does one know a good asm intro ? 09:23:20 There should be tons of them online... 09:23:54 M. Abrash "Zen of assembly language" should be there.. That's a good one. 09:24:04 'online' yea, tons of link collections with broken links. 09:25:07 slowcoder: do you mean AoA? 09:25:44 Mm.. Maybe.. :) 09:26:03 rob_ert told me, that its taking much time to read 09:26:12 i want a quick intro... 09:26:20 or intro 09:28:20 Well, the x86 is a CISC, so there's not really a "subset" of instructions that you can learn.. 09:28:46 CISC does stand for what ? 09:29:56 --- quit: [Mathis] ("connection reset by beer") 09:29:58 "complex instruction set computer" as opposed to RISC ("reduced instruction set computer" 09:30:07 ah, yea 09:30:16 the avr was a risc thingie... 09:30:53 hm, the AoA-book is so big. it will take ages to read the whole book 09:31:01 Exactly.. Not many instructions to learn then.. 09:31:11 Well, you probably don't haveto read the whole thing.. 09:31:24 To get an introduction, just read the first few chapters.. 09:31:40 hm. ok 09:32:03 i will go and eat something know. then do homework and go to bed ;/ 09:32:41 on weekend i will get my nasm running and read AoA, and next week i plan to kick Linus T.'s ass ;) 09:32:45 bed? Where are you ? 09:32:47 (just joking) 09:32:50 germany 09:33:00 Kicking his sorry ass won't be too hard.. 09:33:16 bed? It's like 6:30pm in germany, isn't it ? 09:33:36 18:30 here ;) 1/2 hour eating, 1-2 hours homework, then its 21:00 o'clock and i have to get up early tomorrow 09:33:48 cya then -> food 09:33:52 (away) 09:34:01 I go to bed at around 00:30.. And get up at 05:10.. 09:34:11 Scheez. 09:34:42 The youth of today.. 09:35:50 --- nick: ink|sleepy -> ink 09:37:29 ink :) 09:37:38 re 09:37:47 * ink balances redox eqns 09:37:56 or tries, anyway 09:44:30 oh I get it 09:46:51 --- join: lynx (~lynx@pD9E63CBC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:46:58 lynx :-) 09:50:08 --- join: witten (~witten@adsl-gte-la-216-86-210-121.mminternet.com) joined #osdev 09:51:54 hi 09:52:52 --- join: zephir (~zephir@harr-c-165.resnet.purdue.edu) joined #osdev 09:52:57 anyone around? 09:53:15 yup 09:53:19 hello :) 09:54:30 i have a question 09:54:46 i compile my files, and in kern.o i have a function _start() 09:54:56 i make sure that its really there with objdump 09:55:15 however when i ld all the files together to build the kernel, i get _start() not found 09:55:58 I get my linking to work, but I don't think I can help you, I don't know much about the ld magic :( 09:56:30 zephir: Try -nostartfiles 09:56:45 ld or gcc? 09:56:59 gcc... But it should work on dl.. 09:57:02 ld.. 09:57:24 ld -o kernel libc.a tty.o kern.o -nostartfiles -dN -Ttext 0x101080 09:57:24 ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 00101080 09:58:17 This is how I do it: (Flood warning) 09:58:22 CC = gcc 09:58:22 CFLAGS = -O2 -Iinclude/ 09:58:22 LDFLAGS = -L. 09:58:22 OBJS = drivers.o fs.o kernel.o bs.o mem.o 09:58:22 os-kernel: $(OBJS) 09:58:23 $(CC) -o $@ -nostartfiles -nostdlib $(LDFLAGS) $(OBJS) -lrtmk 09:58:25 bs.o: bs.S 09:58:27 $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< 09:58:29 %.o:%.c 09:58:31 $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< 09:58:33 drivers.o: 09:58:35 make -C drivers/ 09:58:39 The _start() is in the assembly-file bs.S 09:59:00 you dont use ld? 09:59:20 Nah.. I link the final file with gcc.. 09:59:51 but see i dont have boot sector code built in 09:59:55 i use bootmaker 10:00:08 and they want the kernel to start from 0x101080 10:00:13 My .S isn't a boosector.. 10:00:39 It just translates the params so that my main() will get argc and argv.. 10:00:51 ah 10:01:32 btw in gas do we have to use At&T syntax or can we use the normal intel syntax? 10:01:46 AT&T 10:02:00 Use 'nasm' if you want to use MASM/TASM syntax 10:02:26 hm 10:02:35 but NASM is quite different from masm 10:02:47 You think ? 10:02:51 hehe 10:03:34 it _is_ 10:04:07 Lots of newbies that try to assemble TASM code with NASM come to OPN for help ;) 10:04:20 Nah, you're just trolling again.. 10:04:57 Nope. 10:05:02 * rob_ert är inget troll. 10:06:03 Well, it definitly more like MASM than gas... And anyone who tries to assemble code from assembler X on assebler Y deserves what they get... 10:06:12 Ergo, you're trolling 10:06:53 Of course it's more like nasm than gas... 10:07:28 masm 10:09:02 troll 10:09:34 bah 10:09:40 trollmor kan du vara själv 10:11:37 Sigh... Too tired to code.. What a fate.. 10:12:37 * rob_ert lacht. 10:14:28 --- quit: ink (Remote closed the connection) 10:14:41 * slowcoder slår rob_ert over kaften med en stor torskjavel 10:15:03 * rob_ert antar att slowcoder själv är torsken. 10:25:49 --- join: ink|X (~ink@user-vcauuub.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 10:25:50 re 10:26:10 :) 10:48:41 --- log: started osdev/02.03.14 10:48:41 --- join: clog (nef@bespin.org) joined #osdev 10:48:41 --- topic: 'Operating System DEVelopement || osdev docs: qzx.com/lib || www.osdev.org || osdev people: qzx.com/osdev ||  skrivihop.nu' 10:48:41 --- topic: set by ChanServ on [Sun Mar 03 14:53:19 2002] 10:48:41 --- names: list (clog slowcoder gremlin gab nbsp lar1 rob_ert trans elmex lynx witten zephir ink|X) 11:08:35 --- join: [Mathis] (~Mathias@gstw-d9b89f25.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 11:11:31 --- nick: [Mathis] -> Mathis 11:11:43 rehiyall 11:18:57 --- join: jrydberg_ (jrydberg@night.trouble.net) joined #osdev 11:25:55 geee 11:28:12 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:32:27 --- quit: Mathis ("connection reset by beer") 11:42:18 --- join: nrp (~nrp@dl-nas6-poa-C8B012C9.p001.terra.com.br) joined #osdev 11:44:56 --- part: nrp left #osdev 11:50:33 --- join: nonama (aurimas@c185.parabole.lt) joined #osdev 11:50:41 anyone works on menuetos? 11:51:43 no 11:52:03 bad 11:52:12 dont call me idiot 11:52:20 but im making menuetos emulator in pascal 11:52:21 =) 11:52:34 emulator? 11:52:58 jeah 11:53:02 emulates only app 11:53:06 not whole bochs 11:53:07 not whole boch 11:53:21 so it will be faster then bochs 11:53:24 not whole box 11:53:27 ah 11:55:56 bochs is hell slow on menuetos 11:55:56 with 11:55:56 * 11:59:41 --- quit: nonama ("Client Exiting") 12:02:46 --- quit: lar1 (Connection reset by peer) 12:02:49 --- join: MyLar (~Larman@adsl-63-204-133-235.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #osdev 12:02:56 Hi 12:17:16 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 12:17:42 --- join: caereth (caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 12:18:35 hej 12:18:42 hej 12:29:40 --- join: air (brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 12:33:18 hello air 12:34:10 Hejsan 12:34:32 air, what bios version do you use for bochs? 12:37:55 BIOS-bochs-990925a VGABIOS-elpin-2.20 12:37:58 --- join: Aardappel (~Aardappel@pD9E6A9FD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 12:38:06 Hoi :) 12:38:47 air weird.. i tried with 990925a, that bios also found my image not bootable 12:39:15 well im using a very old bochs 12:39:40 la la la la! works nooow 12:39:50 ? 12:40:27 recompiled it yet again, didnt do it any differently, and it works, heh 12:40:41 hah 12:49:01 --- join: Zenton (~vicente@8.Red-80-34-35.pooles.rima-tde.net) joined #osdev 12:51:44 ok air, have a few minutes to help me get bfe working? 12:51:52 now that bochs works 12:56:00 air, configured and compiled bochs with the options from the website, also using xforms 88, when i run bfe, it launches bochs in a new window, but bfe itself seems to hang more or less 12:56:34 hmm 12:56:52 type "bochs" at the prompt and tell me what it says 12:57:42 join #flood perhaps, air? 12:58:00 [brand@borg ~/dcc]>> bochs 12:59:05 --- quit: caereth ("Connection reset by beer") 12:59:23 --- join: caereth (caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 12:59:34 ======================================================================== 12:59:35 Bochs x86 Emulator 1.3 12:59:35 December 10, 2001 12:59:37 ======================================================================== 12:59:39 00000000000i[ ] reading configuration from .bochsrc 12:59:41 00000000000i[ ] using log file bochsout.txt 12:59:56 and in the bochs window, the output from my little kernel 13:00:07 --- quit: caereth (Remote closed the connection) 13:00:32 --- join: caereth (caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 13:01:03 --- quit: air (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 13:01:20 --- join: air (brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 13:01:36 stupid server 13:01:52 join #flood perhaps, air? 13:01:52 [brand@borg ~/dcc]>> bochs 13:01:52 bochs: Warning: no rc file specified. 13:01:52 13:01:52 do u see more than that? 13:02:35 hmm? 13:03:07 the lines i sent you is all i get 13:03:21 and ofcourse the output from my program in the bochs window 13:03:35 i got caught in a netsplit and saw nothing from u 13:04:10 oh, i will send it again 13:05:12 i have a stupid client, would you reply on that private msg? 13:06:25 --- quit: ink|X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:07:23 hahaha 13:07:42 u didnt enable bochs debugger 13:08:07 bfe, being a debugger interface, NEEDS the debugger to be enabled 13:08:26 go recompile bochs 13:08:45 i configured and compilked it with these flags 13:08:48 ./configure --enable-debug --enable-disasm --enable-control-panel=0 --enable--readline=0 13:09:08 as mentioned on the bfe website 13:09:43 type ./configure --help 13:09:51 and see if its --debug or --debugger 13:10:23 debugger 13:10:29 ok 13:10:31 you should put that up on the webpage also 13:10:32 :) 13:10:41 that guy told me --debug 13:10:49 ill reconfigure&compile it then 13:16:02 was --disasm correct? 13:16:59 aye 13:18:02 works now :) 13:20:22 --- join: cookin (~jrydberg@d212-151-37-216.swipnet.se) joined #osdev 13:20:44 hej 13:21:16 hejhej 13:21:20 vad händer ? 13:22:27 What time zone is EDT? 13:22:31 Inte mycket.. 13:22:48 --- quit: caereth ("Client Exiting") 13:22:59 eastern daylight time 13:23:05 air: And that is..? 13:23:14 Compared to GMT (or CET..) 13:23:19 NY time 13:23:35 -5 13:23:44 or -4 13:23:46 not sure 13:24:03 mkay 13:24:12 summer is on and winter is the other 13:24:14 what time is it there now? 13:24:17 summer is one 13:24:28 14:23 mountain time 13:24:44 so 16:23 eastern 13:26:05 thanks 13:26:12 22:23 here, CET (winter) 13:26:33 so, 6 hours difference.. 13:26:44 that sounds correct 13:26:54 so yer +1 or 2 13:28:28 +1 on winter, I tink. 13:28:30 think* 13:45:09 http://www.vickysjokes.com/images/WTC.gif 13:45:34 heh 13:54:10 --- join: Rico (Rico@node-c-1c6a.a2000.nl) joined #osdev 14:00:03 hey quick question, anyone here implemented the multiboot loader for their kernel, or some kernel? 14:00:57 i plan to make my OS boot so fast that the OS itself can be the multiboot loader 14:01:08 geez 14:01:18 :) is that a reality, or a dream? 14:01:24 reality 14:01:27 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:01:37 you already implemented such a system? 14:01:53 ya 14:02:12 still, you need a bootloader 14:02:39 ya, it loads my os 14:03:04 is it multiboot loader compliant? 14:03:30 probably not 14:03:59 i dont know what would be needed to make it compliant 14:04:23 search on google for multiboot spec 14:04:38 i dont there is one 14:05:07 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp81151.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 14:05:08 cuz lilo can boot windows and I KNOW that m$ would break compliance if it existed just to prevent that from happening 14:29:55 --- join: ghent (~ghent@APuteaux-101-1-1-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #osdev 14:32:07 --- quit: cookin ("Client Exiting") 14:34:16 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f1b.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 14:34:55 Hi :) 14:35:11 re 14:47:06 --- nick: slowcoder -> Zzzzzlowcoder 14:48:53 --- quit: wossname ("lbvc") 15:10:11 --- join: ink|X (~ink@user-vcauulo.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 15:10:25 --- nick: ink|X -> ink 15:10:34 re 15:10:38 re 15:12:08 --- quit: nbsp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:12:51 --- quit: elmex ("bah") 15:16:49 --- quit: rob_ert (":)") 15:24:08 --- quit: zephir ("Client Exiting") 15:29:08 --- join: trans (~trans@209.53.48.172) joined #osdev 15:31:19 --- join: _nothing (~nothing@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #osdev 15:42:23 --- quit: Aardappel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:57:38 --- quit: witten ("bye") 16:01:45 --- quit: Mathis ("connection reset by beer") 16:09:12 --- quit: lynx ("BitchX has bite! (Just ask Mike Tyson!)") 16:12:32 --- join: witten (~witten@adsl-gte-la-216-86-210-121.mminternet.com) joined #osdev 16:13:26 ah, my first bugzilla bug report 16:13:34 <_nothing> really? 16:13:43 first of a dozen :) 16:14:14 <_nothing> oh, mozilla 16:14:24 ya 16:14:25 <_nothing> you still hacking around with that piece of bloatware? :) 16:14:43 its smaller than ie 16:14:48 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f16.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 16:14:57 <_nothing> not really 16:15:05 <_nothing> ie 5.5 is faster and smaller 16:15:09 how big is the ie download? 40meg? 16:15:19 <_nothing> well, i'm thinking of memory usage 16:15:32 u ie freaks are all idiots 16:15:42 u think ie is so fast cuz it starts quick 16:15:44 <_nothing> ie uses ~8 mb, mozilla has been seen using up to 50mb 16:16:00 <_nothing> whatever, i'm just stating the truth 16:16:00 ie is started when windows boots 16:16:12 u can make mozilla start at boot time 16:16:53 <_nothing> it's not just start time, it's overall responsiveness 16:17:31 mozilla renders pages faster 16:17:42 sure the mozilla ui is sluggish 16:18:19 i will be fixing that tho 16:19:25 <_nothing> oh really? 16:19:35 <_nothing> good luck wading through that mess of code 16:19:46 well 16:20:15 im not touching code 16:20:21 --- quit: ghent ("A dragon, I saw a dragon !") 16:20:28 im just gonna bitch to the moz developers 16:20:47 and then im gonna write my own ui 16:21:23 <_nothing> btw 16:21:29 <_nothing> you are the maintainer of airc... 16:21:35 <_nothing> have you looked at the irssi client? 16:21:35 yes 16:21:38 no 16:21:41 <_nothing> it seems to do what you were trying to do with airc 16:21:50 <_nothing> i suggest you try it, it's nice 16:21:51 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:21:52 what was i tryingto do 16:22:01 <_nothing> it maintains pages 16:22:06 <_nothing> has separate pages for msg's 16:22:10 <_nothing> much cleaner code 16:22:12 --- join: ghent (~ghent@APuteaux-101-1-1-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #osdev 16:22:19 cleaner code? 16:22:40 morton says my code is the cleanest code he's ever seen :) 16:23:05 heh, yer probably morton 16:23:15 <_nothing> ? 16:23:31 <_nothing> air: i meant, cleaner code compared to ircii/bitchx 16:23:44 hmm 16:23:47 u are morton 16:23:49 <_nothing> ? 16:23:54 makes sense now 16:24:09 he disappears and u suddenly show up 16:24:16 u have comcast and live in same area 16:24:30 and yer hanging out in wc 16:24:31 <_nothing> ? 16:24:54 <_nothing> didn't he use AOL? 16:25:39 u did until u got comcast working 16:26:20 --- join: cyn0n (~cyn0n@d-131-151-139-20.dynamic.umr.edu) joined #osdev 16:26:23 <_nothing> um 16:27:40 <_nothing> heh 16:28:22 heh 16:28:24 amazing 16:28:36 morton leaves 13mar and u show up 13mar 16:28:40 <_nothing> hey air 16:28:42 <_nothing> version me now 16:28:43 yer cover is blown 16:28:56 <_nothing> :) 16:29:11 <_nothing> i'm running a beta of your client that i stole off of borg 16:29:47 wow 16:29:56 so airc has been ported to win2k 16:31:56 so anyone know of budding hobby os'es that are concentrating on security? the only ones I've seen have only copied a bootable pmode section of code and haven't developed anything... 16:32:06 <_nothing> uh 16:32:12 cyn0n: i am 16:33:20 cool? what project? 16:33:21 object store with ID #'s instead of file names and safe language that prevents random IDs from being generated 16:33:23 brix 16:33:38 ahh.. I think I've seen that before.. how far are you into it? 16:33:43 site? 16:33:51 brix-os.sf.net 16:34:04 http://brix-os.sourceforge.net/ 16:34:06 cool 16:34:50 i have the language pretty much designed and a minimal compiler 16:35:41 sweet.. I'm testing out your image real soon. 16:36:28 <_nothing> air: privmsg 16:36:54 cyn0n: that image sucks 16:36:56 --- quit: _nothing ("Lost terminal") 16:37:37 hahha 16:37:39 llama 16:37:40 --- join: _nothing (~nothing@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #osdev 16:37:44 i rm'd his drive 16:37:46 <_nothing> hah 16:38:13 <_nothing> so anyway 16:38:15 <_nothing> you see air? 16:38:16 haha 16:38:22 air: what image should I be using? 16:38:22 yer using win2k 16:38:50 <_nothing> riiight 16:38:55 <_nothing> you were logged in 16:39:01 <_nothing> you know it wasn't win2k :P 16:39:01 u ssh'd into a fbsd box probably cuz u cant get ip masq to work 16:39:10 <_nothing> uh 16:39:12 and u killed the sshd to get me off 16:39:14 <_nothing> i have ipnat working 16:40:03 btw, i dont KNOW that it wasnt win2k 16:40:09 <_nothing> anyway 16:40:10 u didnt give me time to look at fs 16:40:16 <_nothing> did you get to run any commands? 16:40:20 no 16:40:24 <_nothing> hahah 16:40:27 <_nothing> oops 16:40:29 -- Giorgos Keramidas 16:40:29 bash-2.05$ Connection to pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net closed. 16:40:48 <_nothing> heh 16:41:30 <_nothing> do you want to login again? 16:43:43 --- quit: cyn0n ("[BX] Yo quiero BitchX") 16:44:58 <_nothing> air is such a llama :P 16:46:00 had to get water 16:46:11 yes i would like to login again 16:51:30 --- quit: Mathis ("connection reset by beer") 16:51:31 --- quit: witten ("bbl") 16:55:27 --- nick: ink -> ink|class 17:42:57 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 18:47:46 <_nothing> air 18:47:57 <_nothing> i'll start sshd again on that port when i get this system half-secured :) 18:48:07 <_nothing> so you don't exploit some hole and rm -rf me :) 19:20:09 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-7.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 19:26:24 --- nick: ink|class -> ink 19:37:39 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:36:42 --- join: AlonzoTG (~alangrime@66-44-62-176.s176.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com) joined #osdev 20:48:33 --- join: malenfant (malenfant@bc-vic-a53-01-21.look.ca) joined #osdev 20:48:42 --- part: malenfant left #osdev 20:53:18 om 20:53:33 --- mode: ChanServ set +o air 20:53:40 --- mode: air set -o+b AlonzoTG *!*alangrime@*.rcn.com 20:53:40 --- kick: AlonzoTG was kicked by air (om) 20:53:46 --- mode: air set -o air 21:00:14 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 21:04:19 <_nothing> hahahaha 21:04:22 <_nothing> nice kick air 21:35:28 --- join: zephir (zephir@harr-c-165.resnet.purdue.edu) joined #osdev 21:36:04 hey, anyone feel like getting a blank kernel to boot with mutiboot compliance? there's code available, but i cant get to get it wokring! 21:41:57 --- join: air_ (brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 21:42:01 --- quit: air ("[ http://www.qzx.com ] ") 21:42:03 --- nick: air_ -> air 21:45:18 night 21:45:33 --- nick: Zenton -> ZzZ_enton 21:47:10 --- quit: zephir ("Client Exiting") 21:53:14 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:38:47 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h173n2fls33o898.telia.com) joined #osdev 22:48:32 --- nick: MyLar -> lar1 22:48:55 lar :) 22:49:12 Hey :) 23:04:54 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 23:16:54 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f24.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 23:23:50 --- quit: ink ("Client Exiting") 23:27:02 --- join: ink (~ink@user-vcauu7m.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 23:27:04 re 23:28:31 hey 23:58:55 --- join: caereth (caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/02.03.14