00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/02.04.06 00:07:12 hye iar... du you have any app to read OFS? 00:07:29 *hey air... 00:07:48 brix/kernel/setup/oload.inc 00:08:29 okay :) 00:08:33 thx 00:08:48 there was some 32bit code, might be in brix/kernel/ somewhere 00:25:27 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:33:35 --- join: adu (~andrew@dsl-64-130-166-225.telocity.com) joined #osdev 00:33:42 hi 00:34:59 hellu 00:35:20 hi chille 00:35:32 do you know there is a programming language called chill? 00:36:25 hmm... 00:36:31 is it? 00:36:40 ya 00:36:45 hehe cool :)))) 00:38:38 i'm making a pretty cool language here 00:38:51 heh 00:38:52 i'm calling it bfly 00:38:59 :D 00:39:02 butterfly :;DD 00:39:06 yup 00:39:18 Bison Flex Lex & Yacc 00:39:24 hmm... 00:39:26 aha 00:39:28 =) 00:39:38 they're all parser generators 00:39:53 and thats what this language does 00:43:30 do you know much about parser theory? 00:44:05 heh okay =) 00:44:11 hmm.. 00:44:18 i mean: no 00:44:30 hmm 01:14:46 --- quit: nbsp ("-_-.zZ") 01:25:13 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h237n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #osdev 01:44:55 --- join: pjv_ (~pjv@203-206-80-115-dial.froggy.com.au) joined #osdev 01:45:44 Hi 01:47:44 hi :) 01:52:13 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 02:31:18 --- quit: adu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:46:36 --- join: Aardappel (~Aardappel@pD9587D97.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 02:53:12 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:19:04 --- join: Zenton (~vicente@8.Red-80-34-35.pooles.rima-tde.net) joined #osdev 03:23:50 hi all 03:24:58 Hi Zenton 03:26:11 --- quit: pjv_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:27:25 hi rob_ert 03:52:54 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 03:53:41 --- join: darkbane (darkbane@dialup130.d3-Dbg1.Vie.AT.KPNQwest.net) joined #osdev 03:54:53 Hi 04:00:18 hi 04:04:24 --- join: pjv (~pjv@203.206.81.206) joined #osdev 04:07:18 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f27.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 04:07:36 re 04:08:53 wb :D 04:10:04 --- join: darkito (darkito@62-37-116-230.dialup.uni2.es) joined #osdev 04:10:12 nass 04:10:13 Hey darkito! 04:10:33 morning rob_ert :)) 04:14:18 hey rob, are you using gcc-3.0.x? 04:16:09 Nope, 2.95.3, I think. 04:27:26 --- quit: darkbane ("while(true) fprintf(stdout, "/quit\n");") 04:38:01 --- join: lynx (~lynx@pD9E638F3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 05:12:17 --- quit: darkito (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:27:20 --- join: darkito (darkito@62-37-200-197.dialup.uni2.es) joined #osdev 05:28:09 hi 05:28:10 :) 05:28:13 :) 05:28:30 %) 05:30:31 hellu 05:31:00 ¨ 05:31:10 Hij 05:31:11 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:32:26 ¬¬ 05:33:19 ªª 05:33:23 @_@ 05:33:24 ªª 05:33:35 (.)(.) 05:33:38 boobies! 05:33:38 [\][/] 05:33:43 (_,_) 05:33:44 tities! 05:33:53 o]-\3< 05:33:54 ass 05:33:55 :) 05:33:57 (_,_) 05:34:10 _\o_ 05:34:15 ¯¯ 05:34:20 hmm... 05:34:22 Heh 05:34:28 >o< <- a bird 05:34:43 ø_Ø <- a rob_ert 05:34:44 :=| <-- hitler 05:34:52 §=| 05:34:55 what's this: d_b 05:35:02 A dutchman? 05:35:03 hmm... 05:35:10 I have no idea! 05:35:12 ò_ó 05:35:15 Hehe 05:35:17 haha 05:35:17 Uggla 05:35:20 heh 05:35:26 Owl :) 05:35:35 /!\ 05:35:38 /!\ 05:35:39 (0) (0) 05:35:40 o o 05:35:43 \_____/ 05:35:47 a dog 05:35:52 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx(__) 05:35:52 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx(òó) 05:35:52 xx/------------\/ 05:35:52 /IxxxxxxxxxxxxII 05:35:52 * II--yy-------II 05:35:53 x OOxxxxxxxxxxxOO 05:35:55 :P 05:36:01 this is going out of hand.. 05:36:12 %) 05:36:19 ¤_¤ 05:36:30 o_O 05:36:30 ^_^ 05:36:59 0_O 05:37:04 x_X 05:37:08 :P~~~ ~ ~ " " " " " ' ' ' 05:37:14 8========D 05:37:20 8=========D '`'\ 05:37:31 8========D (_O_) 05:37:31 8==}}}}=D 05:37:36 8========D(_O_) 05:37:38 8========D_O_) 05:37:40 :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 05:37:40 8========DO_) 05:37:43 NO! 05:37:45 /kick 05:37:47 8========|_) 05:37:49 ;>) 05:37:55 :=:D)=)D=>:=>D):=>D>?:D=)D(D=):(=D(>)D 05:37:56 * darkito stops 05:38:02 * Chille too 05:38:03 Sluta nu :) 05:38:06 * Chille slaps rob_ert around a bit with a large trout 05:38:09 8=|_) 05:38:32 8====|_) 05:38:37 8===========|_) 05:38:42 8===========================================================|_) 05:38:58 8====================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================|_) 05:39:03 8======================================================================D (_O_) 05:39:03 What the...? 05:39:09 Stop this now. 05:39:17 * Chille slaps rob_ert around a bit with a large trout 05:39:25 * Rico slaps rob_ert around a bit with a large trout 05:39:27 --- mode: ChanServ set +o rob_ert 05:39:31 (_,_) <-- rob_erts ass 05:39:33 ohh no 05:39:34 * Rico slaps Chille around a bit with a large trout 05:39:36 HELP!!! 05:39:37 STOP IT! 05:39:38 --- mode: rob_ert set +q Chille!*@* 05:39:48 Now he's quiet :) 05:39:51 haha 05:39:53 oh 05:40:08 +q? 05:40:16 haah 05:40:18 rocks 05:40:22 Yeah :) 05:40:22 (_,_) <-- Chille's ass! 05:40:26 Heh 05:40:30 --- mode: rob_ert set +q Rico!*@* 05:40:30 --- part: Chille left #osdev 05:40:34 lol 05:40:34 --- join: bajs (~x@h45n2fls32o898.telia.com) joined #osdev 05:40:35 :P 05:40:39 --- mode: rob_ert set -q Chille!*@* 05:40:43 ... 05:40:47 --- mode: rob_ert set -q rico!*@* 05:40:48 GRRRR! 05:40:50 heh 05:40:51 >:( 05:40:52 Hehe 05:40:55 --- nick: bajs -> Cihlle 05:40:56 Stop it now 05:40:59 * Rico flames rob_ert 05:41:00 --- nick: Cihlle -> Chille 05:41:03 :) 05:41:06 ..with a match 05:45:23 and now it's dead again? 05:45:57 Who? Me? 05:46:09 this channel 05:46:18 Yay! Death to #osdev! 05:46:25 * Rico kills #osdev 05:47:02 --- nick: eks[ZZzz] -> eks 05:47:08 Morning 05:47:24 goodmorning 05:47:39 rob_ert: what are you doing with op? ;) 05:47:43 Hehe 05:47:46 forgot to 05:47:49 --- mode: rob_ert set -o rob_ert 05:47:58 I had to make Rico and Chille silent :) 05:48:01 +q rocks ;) 05:48:17 uhmm a question... when bios read boot sector it places it to 07c0:0000? 05:48:21 Rico swas discutable, Chille you had to ;) 05:48:23 * Rico +q's rob_ert! 05:48:34 s/swas/was/ 05:48:35 eks: I offer great babes! 05:48:42 ..and sisters! 05:48:49 Rico: there's other things in life than babes, babe 05:49:14 I never said there weren't 05:49:25 darkito: yes, but some bios also put it at 0000:7c000 05:49:31 darkito: 0000:7c00 05:50:07 but the right place is 07c0:0000, isn't it? 05:50:09 eks taught me to use CS=DS=ES=0/IP=0x7c00 :) 05:50:16 darkito: both are "right" 05:50:30 I also put all segments at 0 05:50:39 darkito: most BIOSes I've seen load the code at 0000:7c00 though 05:51:40 * eks goes to do his morning training 05:51:42 l8r 05:51:55 * Rico goes drinking some beer 05:51:55 * darkito shakes his head 05:52:09 * rob_ert shakes darkito's head 05:53:29 rob_ert : heh 05:53:35 :) 05:54:28 uhm 05:55:38 * darkito shakes his head again 05:55:48 kids... 05:57:07 btw... why does some bootload make a jmp 07c0:000 ? 05:58:10 Food, brb 05:58:46 have fun rob_ert 05:59:18 s/bootload/bootloaders/ 06:02:50 yay 06:02:56 www.usubs.com 06:03:13 www.ussubs.com 06:03:18 luxury submarine! 06:16:28 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06:20:23 darkito: :) 06:28:59 hey, what's happen' 06:33:23 --- quit: pjv ("Client Exiting") 06:38:33 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 06:42:47 lynx: you will buy me one? 06:45:22 lynx: I want a nomad 1000 06:48:55 eks 06:51:02 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f02.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 06:51:28 re 06:56:56 --- join: zephir (~zephir@harr-c-165.resnet.purdue.edu) joined #osdev 06:57:07 Guten morgen! 06:57:53 Morgen 06:57:59 moin 06:59:06 any of you guys know where i can find some docs VGA programming...etc 06:59:24 like during boot up I am trying to play with 640x480 res 06:59:55 Uhmm.. 07:00:01 ostling.no-ip.com <-- check link section 07:00:14 i am so dumb, don't even know what it is called...VESA? 07:01:03 zephir: Vesa, yea.. 07:01:43 rob_ert: which project has it? 07:01:54 bozos 07:01:58 Uh 07:01:58 No 07:02:01 Link section 07:02:07 ostling.no-ip.com <-- check link section 07:02:09 ;) 07:02:32 oh 07:02:33 hehe 07:02:39 sorry, just woke up 07:02:42 still groggy 07:02:52 :) 07:03:42 --- join: Ghiottone (~eergqwg@ppp-7-17.27-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 07:03:52 hi ! 07:04:48 rob_ert: you will have to help me a little, there's nothing about VESA/VGA in there 07:05:54 No? 07:05:57 Hmm 07:06:02 FreeVGA 07:06:18 http://sf.znet.com/~vhold/FreeVGA/home.htm 07:07:27 thx 07:07:50 geez, i really suck 07:08:48 ;P 07:17:34 --- join: corsairk8 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 07:18:26 hi 07:26:30 --- nick: lynx -> lynx_shopping 07:27:58 --- quit: zephir ("Client Exiting") 07:38:08 hi 07:38:38 I have a question about bochs version 1.4. 07:38:44 Can anyone help me? 07:39:13 --- quit: Ghiottone (Remote closed the connection) 07:40:10 --- join: Ghiottone (~eergqwg@ppp-7-17.27-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 07:45:14 slowcoder: ? 07:45:39 --- nick: darkito -> DarKBlacK 07:51:47 Ghiottone: sure, shoot 07:52:45 corsairk8: I helped him already (if it was about running bochs as root) in the #bochs channel 07:53:00 yes, it was that. 07:53:30 Isn't there, in linux, a way to give some users full permission to eth0 ? 07:54:06 Ghiottone: yes, check what is the group of the /dev/eth0 device, and make sure your user is part of that group 07:54:23 if the group is "root", you could just create an alternate group like "net" or such 07:54:33 chown the device then add the user to the new group 07:54:34 there is no /dev/eth0 07:54:43 using devfs? 07:54:48 no 07:55:08 in devfs it is visible? 07:55:27 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/neigh/eth0 ? 07:55:55 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:57:07 it's there. But it's a directory 07:57:11 Ghiottone: other than that I have no idea, maybe you could ask in #debian 07:57:46 I think I'll use direct bochs binary, thanks. 08:04:11 --- quit: DarKBlacK ("User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's") 08:11:45 --- join: corsairk9 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 08:12:19 hi! 08:12:32 re 08:12:53 hiya 08:13:56 what are you doing ? 08:19:15 --- join: MangoMan (MangoMan@modem-301.awesome.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 08:19:17 Hey all 08:19:32 --- quit: SirShaneSleeps ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 08:19:37 hi 08:19:44 ^_^ 08:24:13 not much Ghiottone 08:24:22 doin a little readin on the pe format 08:24:59 why did you choose PE ? 08:26:08 --- join: Dokam (dokam@195-57-79-166.uc.nombres.ttd.es) joined #osdev 08:26:51 didn't you like ELF ? :) 08:28:17 --- quit: corsairk8 (Connection timed out) 08:33:10 --- quit: corsairk9 (Success) 08:33:47 --- join: corsairk8 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 08:39:36 hm 08:40:04 * eks hmm too 08:40:15 mmh 08:40:23 mrmh 08:40:47 eks: find any hot girlz on the internet? 08:41:01 nothing: ehhe, some very nice pictures yes :) 08:41:31 nothing: http://www.websexplanet.com/galleries/tzztzt10/gaer.html 08:43:21 heh 08:43:57 not bad, but she does look slightly dopic 08:44:05 bah, she's cute :p 08:44:26 you can always register her for a desintox session ;) 08:48:21 she has really nice breasts though 08:49:20 don't look at her too long, you may fall in love ;) 08:49:58 * eks hopes Eugenia sets some automatic-way of checking commets :/ 08:50:04 s/commets/comments/ 08:50:19 I hate having my posts delayed for hours 08:53:09 --- quit: Dokam ("Turn of TV. Turn on Mind") 08:56:32 hey, rob_ert, you there? 08:56:36 Yes, 08:56:38 :) 08:56:44 i need your opinion on something 08:59:06 ck8, i need YOUR opinion on something 09:00:46 yes nothing? 09:02:49 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f0c.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 09:03:00 re 09:03:07 ck8: am i fat? 09:03:12 do i look fat in these clothes? 09:03:52 --- quit: MangoMan () 09:06:34 how do you all do your file handling? 09:07:32 is it done by the kernel? 09:10:22 no, by a user-space file server 09:11:12 how about handling the same file inside of more than one process? 09:11:44 does it implements a Virtual File System layer too? 09:12:35 --- join: corsairk9 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 09:12:52 and how do you implement directory reading (seen by the user programmer) 09:12:55 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:13:51 hey, eks, could i have your opinion on something? 09:18:39 --- nick: corsairk9 -> corsairk8 09:19:00 ck8 09:19:03 how is your OS? 09:19:32 --- join: gpf (~bgamari@h0020af25039b.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #osdev 09:19:45 * eks segfaults 09:19:50 hey gpf 09:19:53 lol 09:20:45 --- quit: gpf (Client Quit) 09:20:50 --- join: gpf (~bgamari@h0020af25039b.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #osdev 09:21:06 --- quit: gpf (Remote closed the connection) 09:21:42 looks like gpf is segfaulting himself 09:23:03 --- nick: lynx_shopping -> lynx 09:23:16 * eks gives a tea to lynx 09:23:25 hey babe =) 09:23:28 wussap? 09:23:39 thanx 09:23:43 mMMmmm tea 09:23:56 * lynx is terribly tired 09:24:04 i bought a new hd 09:24:07 =) 09:24:09 :)) 09:24:30 I hate switching my computer off ... 09:24:38 yup 09:24:47 thats why i `ll wait 09:24:56 :) 09:24:56 i dont feel like installing it right now 09:26:06 test is best done before shop close ... 09:26:58 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:27:31 hrm 09:27:43 eks :i want a new os project :( 09:28:16 lynx: http://void-core.2y.net/ 09:28:21 hrm 09:28:22 lynx: the list is long enough, find one you like 09:28:33 is there any fancy l4 stuph? 09:28:51 yes 09:29:00 DROPS is a fancy l4 stuff 09:29:38 11:29 hehe, i am so great! 09:29:44 * eks coughs 09:29:47 hah 09:30:10 mmm fancy 09:30:26 lynx is fancy!!! 09:30:31 indeed 09:30:37 eks : mungi , too 09:31:14 hrm 09:31:20 distributed tros 09:31:26 rtos 09:31:35 eheh 09:32:17 lol 09:32:35 "distributed tros" translates into "Distributed panty" in swedish 09:32:48 oh 09:32:52 interesting 09:33:02 * lynx never thought about that... 09:33:49 --- join: gpf (~bgamari@h0020af25039b.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #osdev 09:34:59 mmm 09:35:06 panties = fancy 09:35:36 Hrm 09:35:42 "tros" = being beleived 09:35:46 "trosor" = panties 09:35:56 Singular 09:36:02 trosa 09:36:05 (almost) 09:36:12 Hehe 09:36:30 nothing : you said panties = fancy , but you also said "lynx is fancy" , so i am a panty? 09:36:49 Of course you are! 09:36:53 he 09:36:56 i love them 09:37:21 hrm 09:37:48 lynx, did you see any fancy computer parts while you were shopping? 09:37:57 yes 09:38:04 a used o2 09:38:16 with 4 gigs + streamer external box 09:38:20 err 09:38:38 (4*disk a 9gig + streamer) in external box 09:38:42 nothing: How much would that set you back ? 09:39:07 uh 09:39:13 set me back? 09:39:22 The cost ? 09:39:26 i dunno 09:39:30 how would i know? 09:39:33 lynx is the one shopping 09:39:52 well 09:40:01 it were two o2 09:40:04 + screens 09:40:05 what kind of store in DE sells used sgi?!? 09:40:22 my "supplier" 09:40:35 fancy drug dealer?? 09:40:36 i bought a 40 gigs maxtor 09:40:51 for more pr0n and spam capacity 09:41:02 mount it as /home? 09:41:06 nah 09:41:28 do /exec -o df -h 09:43:23 hrm 09:43:46 are there any new os-projects in this chan ? 09:43:55 lynx: huhuh 09:44:02 lynx: i guess no df for me ;( 09:44:25 no 09:44:33 nothing : but my old disk is 97% full 09:44:47 why are you lookinf for a new os? 09:44:55 looking 09:44:56 --- quit: gpf ("Client Exiting") 09:45:06 Ghiottone: he needs something to work on 09:45:16 i wanna learn the stuff i was too lazy to learn in uuu times 09:45:20 Ghiottone: ever since he can't write pc speaker beepers for UUU ;( 09:45:35 * nothing hides from lynx 09:45:43 ... 09:45:49 ;) 09:45:52 --- join: gpf (~bgamari@h0020af25039b.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #osdev 09:45:55 --- quit: gpf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:45:55 i think i am adding someone to my ignore list 09:46:00 nooooo 09:46:04 i was just joking... 09:46:04 SWEET! I just got the KT133 datasheet without signing the NDA! :p 09:46:07 http://www.via.com.tw/pdf/productinfo/686a.pdf 09:46:24 only eks would be excited about that.... 09:46:31 nothing: ... 09:46:36 naw.... Me too .... :) 09:47:03 so lynx 09:47:05 complete PCI controller + IDE Controller + Keyboard+PS2+USB+Serial Controller specifications! 09:47:07 you really wanna learn stuff? 09:47:12 like, work on a new os project? 09:47:15 me? 09:47:17 if so, why don't you start one yourself? 09:47:23 that's what everyone does 09:47:23 nothing : hrm 09:47:26 it's more fun that way 09:47:27 well 09:47:31 i am not everyone 09:47:42 i want a two or three man project 09:48:01 what kind of project are you looking for? 09:48:11 hrm 09:48:17 well 09:48:25 mouahha! one hell of a pinout! 09:48:31 some microkernel stuff , posix compilant , asm only 09:48:35 or 09:48:36 yes 09:48:38 VT82C686A Ball Diagram >:} 09:48:41 l4 would be nice 09:49:18 why asm only? 09:49:39 Ghiottone : because i want to be good in asm coding and then move on to c or something 09:50:34 my own OS is being developed in C. 09:51:05 sweet sweet sweet! complete System I/O Map! 09:52:08 that's the kind of docs that should come with the motherboard when you buy it ! 09:52:25 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp79464.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 09:52:51 eks: are you planning to emulate it under bochs? 09:53:01 eks :you think the average windows-dummy wants it? 09:53:05 "Keyboard Controller Registers" with all the commands detailed, certainly kicks the 'free information' available on the web 09:53:46 Ghiottone: that's one of the many uses I can make out of it, by having the exact register layout and behaviour, we could make bochs behave like one known system for which real windows drivers and other os drivers exists 09:54:27 it makes the emulation more realistic, less prone to wrong behaviour, and most likely make the guest os run faster 09:54:27 ehi! USB ports too ! 09:54:32 Ghiottone: yip yip yip! 09:55:16 SoundBlaster Pro ?? 09:55:21 mouahah.. this docs is the os implementator's dream! 09:55:23 it is 8 bit? old! 09:55:29 :) 09:55:31 yeah :) 09:55:44 Ghiottone: well, it's a possible built-in add-on chip on the mobo, it gets connected to the main controller 09:56:04 I have a VT82C686A in my computer but not the built-in soundcard 09:56:31 whats that eks? 09:56:34 schweet! "Super-I/O Device ID" >:} 09:56:42 mmm I'm going to send it to my friends ... 09:56:55 corsairk8: South-Bridge from VIA used in the Asus A7V motherboard, they are part of the KT133 chipset 09:57:23 corsairk8: it's a complete Super-I/O chip datasheet 09:57:28 gives the details on _all_ the ports 09:57:33 how to use them, the commands, etc.. 09:57:51 DMA Controller, PIC, APIC, PCI, USB, Keyboard, Mouse, RTC, CMOS, ... 09:58:14 slurp :)) 09:58:23 * eks drools :D`` 09:58:24 hrm 09:58:31 well 09:58:36 hrm 09:58:44 * lynx goes back to some sdl stuph 09:58:53 lol, "Index F2 - Test Mode (DO NOT PROGRAM) ............RW" rotfl 09:59:11 guess what I'll be writing to :p 10:00:41 lol 10:01:48 Command Summary ­ Sound Processor 10:01:48 # Type Command 10:01:48 10 Play 8 bits directly 10:01:48 14 Play 8 bits via DMA 10:01:48 91 Play High-speed 8 bits via DMA 10:01:51 16 Play 2-bit compressed via DMA 10:01:53 woohoo >:} 10:02:19 really nice :)) 10:02:27 eks: How's the PCI-emulation in Bochs btw ? 10:02:38 slowcoder: in a really poor unusable state :p 10:02:50 Is the BIOS32 in place? 10:02:58 slowcoder: not AFAIK 10:03:11 eks: Mkay.. thnkx 10:04:09 Offset 43 - ROM Decode Control .................................... RW 10:04:09 Setting these bits enables the indicated address range to be 10:04:09 included in the ROMCS# decode: 10:04:12 sweet! 10:04:24 we can recover the memory address range the bios uses! 10:04:38 YaY! 384KB of memory! 10:04:39 --- nick: wossname -> gnu_wossname 10:04:43 :)) 10:05:06 the quest for High Memory (umbs and other really ols things ) :))) 10:05:23 yes >:} 10:05:57 --- join: Downix (~downix@user-38ldd21.dialup.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 10:06:07 is there a NIC included into the pdf ? 10:06:16 hrm.. not in this one no 10:06:23 I need a new OS 10:06:26 the VT82C686A does not have a built-in NIC 10:06:28 what a pity ... 10:06:28 Linux is messing up again 10:06:36 Ghiottone: but the 3COM website have plenty of NIC docs 10:06:43 Ghiottone: see my bookmark at http://void-core.2y.net/ 10:06:45 * Downix thinks he's doomed to run only the Amiga at this point 10:06:48 Programming too? 10:06:52 Ghiottone: yip 10:07:01 thx 10:07:09 Ghiottone: I've programed asm drivers for a 3C90xB using those docs 10:07:11 --- nick: gnu_wossname -> wossname 10:08:02 I haven't got that nic, else I would write a driver too.... 10:08:35 Ghiottone: which one you have? 10:08:54 ne2000 (rtl8019 + rtl8029) 10:09:00 rtl8139 too 10:09:10 Ghiottone: there are good docs out there on how to program the ne2k 10:09:20 I have them, thx. 10:09:23 eheh 10:09:27 --- join: darkito (darkito@62-36-147-16.dialup.uni2.es) joined #osdev 10:09:30 nas 10:09:37 my driver now seems to work quite well. 10:09:39 rob 10:09:41 ert 10:10:04 Buenas dias 10:10:09 I think that my next step in that direction will be writing one for the 8029 (PCI version) 10:10:26 rob_ert heheh 10:10:40 (whatever that means) 10:10:52 "buenos dias" 10:11:14 phear robert spanish speaker 10:11:34 eks: If the only difference between ne2k and rtl 8029 is the PCI bus, maybe I could help with bochs PCI implementation 10:12:17 Ghiottone: there's alot of ppl that would be happy to see PCI working in Bochs 10:12:49 darkito: lol :) 10:13:02 :) 10:13:31 eks: I have coded some function for my OS to scan directly the PCI ports to read PCI configuration registers 10:13:42 can someone tell me how to boot the system into a mode where I can run fsck on the disks? 10:14:02 --- join: V_Frankenstein (V_Frankens@chello062178088129.2.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #osdev 10:14:07 at the lilo prompt: linux single 10:14:30 single? 10:14:30 Downix: or at the grub prompt: kernel /boot/vmlinuz single 10:14:35 Downix: single-user mode 10:14:36 ok 10:14:47 that mounts the disks in read-only mode so I can fsck them? 10:14:56 yeah 10:14:58 ok 10:15:03 when a reboot I'll do that 10:15:09 my filesystem is majorly borked 10:15:14 ext3 ? 10:15:21 ext2 I think 10:15:28 you think? ;) 10:15:30 it's debian potato upgraded to woody 10:15:36 ext2 :p 10:15:36 and I run the 2.2 kernel 10:15:37 I mean, why don't you try ext3 10:15:54 Ghiottone: I can' get the 2.4 kernel to work properly, pppd dies 10:15:54 --- join: wjorzk (~cheese@66-44-45-178.s1448.apx1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com) joined #osdev 10:15:57 Ghiottone: there are still problems with ext3, at least according to the ext3-devel mailinglist 10:16:26 Ghiottone: I use ext3 here and don't have any problems but some ppl do have so.. 10:17:03 I've got a Debian potato upgraded to sid and my 2.4 kernel works perfectly even with ext3 10:17:51 the other day I recompiled my kernel with gcc 3 and then I got problems!!! 10:17:57 My modules stopped working. 10:18:52 my current kernel is a 2.5.7 built with gcc 3.0.4 running on ext3 10:18:55 * Downix never uses modules 10:18:58 Debian does not like that 10:19:03 I have no problems here, but again, it might just be lurking 10:19:16 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:19:26 --- join: corsairk9 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 10:19:32 wb ck8 10:19:43 hey 10:20:05 * eks makes himself so more pea soup 10:20:36 --- quit: corsairk9 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:23:19 going to eat, leaving for a while... 10:23:23 OK 10:23:24 bye 10:24:59 --- quit: lynx ("brb") 10:26:37 --- join: darkito_ (darkito@62-37-117-113.dialup.uni2.es) joined #osdev 10:26:43 :) 10:26:49 re 10:28:28 --- quit: darkito (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10:38:28 --- part: V_Frankenstein left #osdev 10:39:03 ok, I got more help here with Debain than in #debian 10:39:05 that's sad 10:39:23 Hehe 10:43:28 I'll buy THAT for a dollar! 10:43:48 --- quit: Zenton (Remote closed the connection) 10:44:26 --- join: Zenton (~vicente@8.Red-80-34-35.pooles.rima-tde.net) joined #osdev 10:45:19 eks 10:45:20 eks 10:45:20 eks 10:45:28 where did you get those system i/o map docs 10:45:31 and where can i get that?!? 10:53:03 the link was : http://www.via.com.tw/pdf/productinfo/686a.pdf 10:53:55 nothing: lolol, about time you wake up :P 10:54:20 well 10:54:21 i was afk 10:54:30 that doc has system i/o map? 10:54:51 11:46 < eks> http://www.via.com.tw/pdf/productinfo/686a.pdf 10:54:51 11:46 < nothing> only eks would be excited about that.... 10:54:57 nothing: yip 10:55:30 nothing: complete system I/O map to the _bit_ 10:57:31 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-7.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 10:57:37 anybody know the status of the OS/Omicron project? 10:58:07 --- quit: Downix ("Downix has no reason") 10:59:56 no, but the website is not responding .... 11:00:11 Ghiottone: yeah, same thing here :/ 11:00:38 I hate seeing OS project website going down 11:00:41 --- join: lynx_ (~lynx@p50809D21.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 11:00:53 even if they are dead, if their docs and sources are available, at least their work is not lost 11:01:10 new hd added 11:01:19 yeah. Try using google and looking into the cache. 11:01:55 I've found this way: Copyright(C) 1999-2000 OS/omicron Project 11:02:59 Ghiottone : what was your os again? 11:03:08 oh 11:03:17 Ghiottone: I can always find back the various papers related to the project on the sony computer research lab, but I'm sure there were more docs on their site 11:03:21 I'm going crazy 11:03:25 lynx_: OSSO 11:03:55 omikron = ck8's project 11:04:03 and i think ck8 just got shot in a drug deal in London 11:04:11 another os developer dead ;( 11:04:25 --- join: Mathis (~Mathias@gstw-d9b89f33.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 11:04:29 ? 11:04:31 nothing: lol 11:04:38 re 11:04:45 Nah 11:04:48 lynx_: http://osso.sourceforge.net 11:04:50 wb Mathis 11:04:54 He died trying to plant a tree. 11:04:56 first core dead, now ck8 11:05:01 who will be next?!??! 11:05:03 --- nick: lynx_ -> lynx 11:05:15 rob_ert: nah, I saw the picture, he didn't die, he had the time to suck the blood of the girl that was with im 11:05:19 s/im/him/ 11:05:31 will it be eks... accidentally asphyxiated by telecomm fiberoptics... or air... a victim of a malignant anal tumor?!? 11:05:37 nothing : you 11:05:45 lynx: ;( 11:05:57 --- quit: nbsp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:05:57 i hope my death will be fancy 11:06:02 nothing : when you sleep the octane will kill you 11:06:09 heh 11:06:11 nothing: you'll die of self-inflected wounds after being restricted access to the #osdev channel on irc 11:06:16 nothing : unless you send it to me 11:06:27 lol 11:06:28 --- quit: wossname ("we are mission from god") 11:06:35 eks: not funny ;( 11:06:38 --- part: nothing left #osdev 11:06:42 lol 11:06:42 lol@nothing 11:07:02 :D 11:07:27 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-7.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 11:08:09 hrm.. 11:08:21 *.no.no.cox.net .... Anti-Cox campaign? 11:08:26 --- join: nothing (~nothing@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #osdev 11:08:30 wb nothing 11:09:06 eks, you know who's sexy? 11:09:09 Gwen Stefani 11:09:15 nothing: huh? 11:09:35 Heh :) 11:09:47 if you know that you`re sexy clap your hands 11:09:53 * eks claps ;) 11:10:03 *claps* 11:10:20 eks : you really KNOW it? 11:10:27 http://www.findaceleb.com/ppp/gwenstefani6.html 11:10:35 eks ; did anyone tell you that? 11:10:36 heh 11:10:41 eks : or is it just self-addiction? 11:10:51 lynx: his manager at mcdonald's made passes at him everyday 11:11:05 lynx: part of both ;) 11:11:11 nothing: lol 11:11:21 (although, eks's manager is short, fat and bald) 11:11:36 haha 11:12:29 moving 25 gigs from one disk to another = muchos time 11:12:35 yay 11:12:49 and then 35 gigs free for pr0n!!! 11:13:06 --- join: douwe (~webmaster@ledn-csl-4581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) joined #osdev 11:13:13 /me is moving 2.4Gb from one drive to another.. 14hrs and counting.. 11:13:21 slowcoder: ?? 11:13:32 slowcoder: transfering over 2400bps?!? 11:13:41 The drive is in southern sweden, and i'm in norway.. 11:13:41 heh 11:13:43 already 6 gigsd moved 11:13:52 slowcoder is transferring on his sparcstation 2 "workstation" :) 11:14:01 he 11:14:04 sparc 11:14:19 sparcstation 2 = so slow you shoot yourself before a command returns 11:14:20 hrm.. now that I have an alpha I want a Sparc too... 11:14:32 eks: i'm getting an ultra2 11:14:35 --- quit: wjorzk ("Client Exiting") 11:14:37 for $500 from a friend 11:14:45 dual UltrapsracII processors, 768mb ram 11:14:49 nothing : anyone asked you? 11:14:52 bastard 11:14:58 lynx: i love to brag!!! 11:15:01 i'm so happy!! 11:15:06 nothing : pff 11:15:17 nothing : that was your mom , too after i "met" her 11:15:26 --- part: nothing left #osdev 11:15:36 nothing: It's going to be just like your dick.. Sure, it's big, but if you don't know how to use it..... 11:15:38 he 11:15:45 fsck.. He left. 11:15:49 slowcoder lol 11:17:44 http://research.microsoft.com/~mbj/papers/tr-95-16_abstract.html <-- original Windows XP project? 11:18:42 what should an implementation of IP do upon reception of a frame from the ethernet layer ? 11:19:14 I've got some accesses to the OSSO website from tide86.microsoft.com :( 11:19:21 Check the header, the protocol number and the checksum 11:20:34 http://fiddes.net/coldfire/ <-- Coldfire just ceased :( 11:20:39 ... 11:20:44 after that, send it to the protocol-layer 11:21:05 who is the OSSO coder here? 11:21:38 Stallman is a dick 11:21:48 Hrm 11:22:12 He just gave our community a server. Don't talk like that about the God Of Emacs. 11:22:27 ... 11:22:33 .-D 11:22:35 rob_ert: Get a clue 11:22:42 "I hope we can resolve the matter without resorting to lawyers." 11:22:52 ? 11:22:54 Mathis: I am 11:23:02 rob_ert: http://fiddes.net/coldfire/stallman.txt 11:23:12 Ghiottone: at first: nice homepage 11:23:22 Mathis: thx 11:23:24 Ghiottone: second: great project 11:23:42 Mathis: Thx a lot :)) 11:23:47 *Happy* 11:23:56 Ghiottone: but why did you decide to create a highly modular OS? 11:24:21 slowcoder: Yes? 11:24:41 rob_ert: Don't you think lawyers is a bit over the top? 11:24:48 --- quit: Ubel ("[BX] Mr. Peanut uses BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 11:25:09 rob_ert: Don't you think the FSF should have better things to do + 11:25:36 Mathis: I like it this way. After the creation of good interfaces and simple modules, you got a great power with the ability to combine them 11:25:40 slowcoder: obviously not 11:25:59 I wonder how serious he is ;P 11:26:07 Mathis: just like one of the bigger feature of unices is the combination of simple programs. 11:26:26 Ghiottone: I think it is very hard to create interfaces 11:27:04 Mathis: Yes. You are not able to think about everyting until you came across it at implementation time, so you have to start again.... 11:27:17 --- join: nothing (~nothing@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #osdev 11:27:25 Ghiottone: I know what you mean, did so too 11:27:30 A friend of mine had met Stallman at MIT and he was not pleased :( 11:27:40 --- join: corsairk8 (~CorsairK8@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:27:45 ew.. whoever designed the Sombrero website (http://www.eas.asu.edu/~sasos/sombrero.htm) should get fired.. 11:27:49 Mathis: Are you developing your own OS too ? 11:28:04 Ghiottone: yep 11:28:18 a very monolithic one 11:28:22 Have you got an homepage? 11:28:25 :) 11:28:26 mathis is designing the matrix 11:28:33 his os mascot is giong to be Keanu Reeves 11:28:41 hehe 11:28:42 lol 11:28:51 Why monolithic ? :) 11:28:54 nothing: http://domainatrix.freeservers.com/ 11:29:08 my god 11:29:13 that sombrero website is ugly 11:29:26 that person should be fired ... on by a firing squad 11:29:29 well 11:29:30 hrm 11:29:36 a monolithic kernel is loaded very fast and could also replace the BIOS 11:29:40 hey guys 11:29:52 ck8: is it still "make fun of nothing week"? 11:30:04 inside the kernel it is also modular 11:31:28 loaded onto a netstation it could also act as a server station 11:31:43 hrmpf 11:31:46 :/ 11:31:53 yup nothing 11:31:57 * lynx is disappointed 11:31:57 its make fun of nothing year infact 11:32:18 durmn sdl functions dont work 11:32:22 btw ck8, i heard the folks on the arianne team are making a monster in their game called "corsairk8" 11:32:36 and they are going to use your school-picture for the face texture :) 11:32:59 Mathis: there is the linux-bios project too :) 11:33:09 of course 11:33:33 * eks wonders if he should install Scout on his Athlon.. 11:33:36 my goal is to create a massive parallel processing and clustering system 11:33:48 Mathis hrm 11:33:54 Mathis: ehi! it was one of my goal too :) 11:33:58 Mathis : interesting? 11:34:00 ! 11:34:02 Scout? 11:34:16 lynx: so if you join a project the kernel has to be written in assembly? 11:34:17 oh... could someone help me with a bootsector code? 11:34:20 so that we can use existing hardware to create big clustering systems with high power 11:34:23 nothing: http://www.cs.arizona.edu/scout/ 11:34:31 nothing: they have the sources available :) 11:34:32 nothing : well 11:34:40 nothing : i want to improve my asm 11:34:40 nothing: works on both the DEC Alpha and Intel :)) 11:34:57 eks: you want your athlon to become an embedded network device?!? 11:35:29 nothing: what's wrong about running an embed os on a desktop? 11:35:37 as long as I can have my text console and a compiler, I'm fine :)) 11:36:08 Mathis: I've choosed microkernel because I'd like to very efficiently use massively parallel computers 11:36:17 nothing: the idea is.. that would be _really_ alternative ;) 11:36:34 Ghiottone: cool 11:36:34 Mathis: Well for intel this should mean 4 proc. SMP .... 11:36:53 eks: how would you like a quad-processor 64-bit Intel Itanium workstation? 11:37:04 slurp .... 11:37:19 I'd prefer 4 athlons though ... 11:37:22 nothing: mmmMMmmmmm ... but hrm.. Itanium.. nah 11:37:30 Intel stations can have up to 8 CPUs (Xeons) 11:38:05 nothing: give me a quad 1.7GHz Athlon box and I'll drool on it for a couple of years, but not Itanium based 11:38:20 I've just saw this file into the bochs/patches directory: patch.smp-8cpu-etc 11:38:35 :) 11:38:39 Ghiottone: yes, it is to build bochs as a 8way computer 11:38:51 Ghiottone: previous versions (without the patch) can do from 1 to 4 processors only 11:39:03 eks: It will need a new BIOS though ? 11:39:12 eks: you should buy a dual athlon 11:39:13 wli in the #bochs channel as been working at a 32-way build too 11:39:23 Ghiottone: no, the rombios.c in the Bochs sources will do 11:39:25 Athlon MP proc's are quite cheap, then buy that Tyan Thunder k7 board 11:39:32 I now, I use bochs to test the partial SMP support I have written. 11:39:42 nothing: I shouldn't buy anything, I have to save my money ;) 11:40:06 for what? 11:40:20 I have not succeded in recompiling the bochs' bios yet. I've tried it a couple of times ... 11:40:58 About SMP with athlons... Anyone knows something of the new Asus motherboard? 11:41:02 nothing: for a second super TFT monitor ;) 11:41:10 .. 11:41:10 nothing: or maybe some HMD.. 11:41:16 eks : history repeats 11:41:19 or VRG.. 11:41:53 lynx: yes, but I don't waste the money on another cpu+mobo like nothing suggested :p 11:42:15 lynx: and quite frankly, I won't invest in computer hardware in anything else than a soundcard in the next 6 months 11:42:19 mmmmm tft 11:42:32 nothing: I have a NEC MultiSync LCD 1525V >:} 11:42:39 nothing: :D`` 11:42:42 oh, 15" lcd? 11:42:50 do you use it for your main display? 11:42:52 nothing: it's as big as a 17" CRT 11:42:57 nothing: it's my only display :P 11:43:00 it looks awesome 11:43:08 way better than any CRT I ever had 11:43:26 well, they are good, but some of them can blur with fast motion 11:43:30 I can litterally see the display on the monitor even when I look at it sideways :p 11:43:31 and some times pixels die out 11:43:49 nothing: I've had this one for 2 years now, and there aren't any dead pixel 11:43:55 but yes, if you play 3d games it will blur a bit 11:44:06 but since I'm not a gamer, I don't have the problems 11:44:25 and BZFlag doesn't mind the bit of bluring ;) 11:45:14 bzflag eh? 11:45:16 is that any fun? 11:45:33 bzflag.org 11:45:43 it's one of the most popular unix games of all time 11:45:51 didn't that used to be an SGI-demo 11:45:51 ? 11:46:12 I think so 11:46:19 darkito_: did you want some help onn a bootsector? 11:46:24 but it works alright on my Athlon :P 11:46:34 if you need help with a /bootsector/, i feel sorry for you ;/ 11:46:41 nothing: works really better if you have good OpenGL drivers though 11:46:56 eks: can you take a pic of your computer setup/desk? i wanna see what your hacker's lair looks like 11:47:07 eheh 11:47:29 of the kitchen too :) 11:47:39 heh 11:47:44 hacker's lair: http://linux.ucla.edu/~webcam/ 11:47:47 nothing: my desktop isn't nice looking atm 11:47:57 bhahaha 11:48:00 witten just woke up 11:48:07 he was lurking the whole time 11:48:11 no I didn't :) 11:48:33 http://void-core.2y.net/desktop.png 11:49:04 (sorry, the image is a bit big) 11:49:05 uhhhh 11:49:20 the real-life desktop, not the virtual desktop, eks :) 11:49:32 i.e. so i can see your tft :) 11:49:38 nothing: my computer is on a kitchen counter and I'm using the tower as a chair :P 11:49:50 nothing: and I don't have the webcam anymore so I can't really take a picture 11:49:51 ugh 11:49:55 that must get uncomfortable 11:50:03 nothing: yea, that's why I'm standing atm :p 11:50:05 what happened to the webcam? 11:50:19 nothing: I left a couple of things in Montreal when I moved 11:50:32 I brought only what was "required" :/ 11:51:16 --- quit: corsairk8 (Remote closed the connection) 11:51:36 nothing: I think I have a couple of pictures of the lcd though.. 11:51:47 http://www.corpriel.com/fun/pics.php 11:51:48 there :P 11:51:58 pictures of me arriving in Winnipeg + my monitor 11:52:29 mmm 11:52:31 sexy tft 11:52:40 it would be cooler if you had gotten the black model tho 11:52:45 wait until you see it naked >:} 11:52:59 pff 11:53:02 it's hyper cool naked 11:53:07 eks looks like a smartass ;) 11:53:14 eks: Which one is you ? 11:53:17 lynx: I am a smartass :P 11:53:26 slowcoder: the one on the first picture 11:53:42 wtf 11:53:47 you took the cover off the lcd??!? 11:53:48 omg 11:53:49 eks: The guy who looks like he's high on happy-pills ? :) 11:53:52 nothing: :))) 11:53:55 --- join: corsairk8 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:53:55 your warranty is definitely voided 11:53:57 slowcoder: ja 11:54:00 i can't believe you did that 11:54:02 nothing: lolol 11:54:08 anyway 11:54:08 nothing: it's soooooo cool though 11:54:13 who are all those other geeks in the room? 11:54:22 no nothing, your warrenty is voided 11:54:26 10.jpg is Raptor-32 11:54:26 like the chubby kid playing bongos? :) 11:54:32 lololol 11:54:52 your expressed warranty of having merchantability or even the implied warrenty of cluebie-ability of any kind 11:54:56 9.jpg is 'mars' 11:55:05 nothing: yeah, it's a "djembe" btw 11:55:14 * corsairk8 waits for an applaus 11:55:20 *sigh* 11:55:36 i probably shouldn't have heckled ck8 the whole time about that arianne thing 11:55:37 he 11:55:44 now i'm going to have to put up with this for the rest of my life 11:55:47 canadians are so sweet 11:55:53 lol nothing 11:55:59 nah, only as long as you heckled me 11:56:02 i like small things =) 11:56:12 lynx: :) 11:56:25 oh man 11:56:31 that lcd is definitely cool 11:56:38 nothing: ehehe 11:56:41 i am never going to buy a crt again 11:56:42 nothing: in real it's even more impressive 11:56:43 he 11:56:48 next monitor purchase will be an 18" tft lcd 11:57:03 it probably makes for a whole different computer experience too 11:57:08 nothing: http://www.iiyama.fr/ 11:57:22 or iiyama.com if you don't understand french 11:57:27 iiyama? 11:57:33 nothing: they have the best lcd monitor in the world 11:57:34 yours is nec though 11:57:38 oh 11:57:41 "Site HTML optimisé pour IE en 1024 x 768" 11:57:49 nothing: yes, I'm very happy with mine, and it is beaten only by Iiyama 11:57:50 i was considering the Samsung 18" 11:57:52 that doesnt take much knowledge of language to understand that 11:57:52 ;) 11:57:53 or the black IBM 18" 11:58:02 french right? 11:58:10 iiyama.fr got a very cool Flash site though.. 11:58:16 _very_ cool flash 11:58:16 eks: is that you in the last two pictures? 11:58:24 nothing: yip 11:58:32 I was hacking some PHP script for "digit" a friend of mine 11:58:34 that CRT you are using looks downright ugly compared to the lcd 11:58:40 cool 11:58:45 i love hacking php skripts 11:58:46 nothing: yes.. yet it is a Viewsonic 21" 11:58:52 gah 11:58:55 whats your favourate scripts? 11:59:05 * nothing has a viewsonic pf790 19" and an optiquest 17" crt 11:59:14 hrm 11:59:19 nothing: the lcd _is_ nice :)) 11:59:19 i think you bore me 11:59:26 --- part: lynx left #osdev 11:59:28 lynx: lol, you are just jealous ;) 11:59:30 rotfl 11:59:31 heh 11:59:39 hm 11:59:42 hmmm 11:59:49 iiyama.com is an ugly website 12:00:03 corsairk8: I don't have a "favourite" script, I know the language and that's about it 12:00:06 nothing: yes 12:00:13 nothing: that's why I first refereed to iiyama.fr 12:00:17 the asian computer companies never make good websites 12:00:38 --- quit: Mathis (No route to host) 12:00:47 * eks waves Mathis goodbye 12:00:54 Asus's website is a mess 12:01:02 hehe 12:01:07 i was thinking of hacking nothing 12:01:09 eks: what have you heard about the IBM or Samsung LCD's? 12:01:10 he has so many interesting open ports 12:01:15 actually 12:01:19 all i have is port 80 open 12:01:30 nothing: I've seen the Samsung LCD in reallife, and they do not even approach the quality I have out of my NEC 12:01:35 actually 12:01:39 nothing: I never saw the IBM though 12:01:40 thats all the interesting ports i need :) 12:01:41 eks: really? 12:01:44 hmmmm 12:01:48 maybe i should consider the NEC 12:01:49 i see you have one of those crappy apache servers 12:01:50 nothing: if I was to buy a new LCD it would be a NEC or a Iiyama 12:01:55 their loaded with bugs 12:01:58 the black 18" nec is pretty nice 12:02:03 there was some exploit a few years back for it 12:02:03 nothing: yip 12:02:24 actually 12:02:26 nothing: make sure you buy one with a high refresh rate than my 1525V, otherwise if you play games you might not enjoy the blur 12:02:28 i am not running apache 12:02:30 o 12:02:30 jesus 12:02:41 you are running that It Isnt Secure (IIS) ;) 12:02:41 you can at least connect and do a fscking head / ht 12:02:42 right... 12:02:45 before you try to terrorize me 12:02:45 lol 12:02:49 ah, so you can trace my ip 12:02:51 i'm running AOLServer 12:02:52 and find out where i live 12:02:54 i think not 12:02:55 uhm 12:02:58 hehe 12:03:03 your ip is on irc, dummy :) 12:03:10 i don't need you to connect to get that :) 12:03:15 oh dear 12:03:31 lol@ck8 and his famous security :p 12:03:41 eks: what is hte refresh on your nec? 12:03:43 60hz? 12:03:47 nothing: yeah :( 12:03:54 nothing: the 1525X got something like 110Hz 12:03:58 http://www.infonexus.com/PIX/Misc/Office-01.2002/04.jpg 12:04:00 check that guy's stuff out 12:04:02 he has an NEC 12:04:06 and the SGI lcd next to it 12:04:10 looks kind of dull and blurry 12:04:11 compared to it 12:04:14 interesting enough 12:04:40 but the ibm next to it looks decent 12:05:11 nothing: first note: he is running the NEC at 1024x768 and the SGI at 1600x1024 12:05:16 nothing: so a direct comparison isn't fair 12:05:18 well 12:05:23 those are both thte native resolutions 12:05:27 for each, i think 12:05:32 second, the SGI is direct polarized to the camera while the NEC is at an angle 12:05:47 third, the entire photo is blurry 12:05:52 nothing: the newer NEC monitors run natively at 1600x1024, like the 1525X IIRC 12:06:20 and I much prefer the height of the NEC than the one of the SGI 12:06:34 they're reverted in 06.jpg 12:07:16 nothing: the NEC is less blurry than the SGI one in 06 :) 12:07:27 i know 12:07:29 that's what i said 12:07:36 the SGI is more blurry than the nec, which is interesting 12:07:45 because supposedly the sgi is supposed to be 'high-end' 12:09:00 is that an 18" nec or a 15"? 12:09:11 15" NEC 12:09:24 they are much bigger viewable area than their CTR counterpart 12:09:32 s/CTR/CRT/ 12:09:34 hm 12:09:44 an 18" lcd must have a really wide viewable area then 12:09:50 yip 12:10:04 a 17" CRT got approx 15.2" viewable, a 15" LCD got 15" viewable :) 12:10:14 I'm leaving ... Bye ! 12:10:18 bye Ghiottone 12:10:22 * corsairk8 wonders where the anti-nothing croud disappeared to 12:10:28 Bye 12:10:43 --- part: Ghiottone left #osdev 12:10:46 eks: is the lcd easier on your eyes too? 12:10:52 nothing: much much easier 12:10:53 like, can you sit in front of longer than a CRT? 12:11:04 because i have problems with my crt's sometimes, they give me headaches 12:11:06 nothing: there's like no reflection on the screen, which makes it nice 12:11:24 nothing: I used to have the same problem, the lcd is not giving that kind of crap 12:11:37 --- join: lynx (~lynx@p50809D21.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 12:11:40 wb lynx 12:12:05 mmm 12:12:07 damn 12:12:10 nothing: I'd say buying an LCD instead of a CRT is an _investment_ 12:12:12 i need an lcd now 12:12:21 i fscking HATE these headaches 12:12:27 eheh 12:12:29 it prevents efficient coding 12:12:36 * eks goes around without headache and grins *g* 12:12:49 eks: did you find it harder to concentrate sometimes after sitting in front of a CRT for a long time? 12:12:50 * slowcoder goes around without headache and grins *g* 12:13:01 slowcoder: are you an lcd boy too? :) 12:13:13 hey 12:13:25 * slowcoder 's equipment: 21" CRT, 17" CRT, 15" TFT 12:13:40 nothing: yip, after 10 or 15 minutes of using a CRT, if I close my eyes I actually feel a great "relief", but I don't get that much of a feeling with the LCD, therefore it tires less my eyes 12:13:45 eks : do you know any doc about what the bootloader does after it is booted and stuff? 12:14:17 lynx: huh.. the bootloader is loaded by the bios, loads the operating system kernel or stage2 loader and transfer control over.. 12:14:53 eks : well i would like to understand that transfer control over 12:15:22 it reads it in at a specified address, usually relocates 12:15:27 transfers control at new address 12:15:39 sets up data strucutres, reads in kernel 12:15:43 jumps to kernel 12:15:58 lynx: it's a simple "jmp" instruction.. 12:16:04 HRM 12:16:05 ok 12:16:13 lynx: write your own to learn more about it 12:16:15 i look at the uburn one 12:16:16 lynx: the address where to jump can be fixed or variable depending on your own selected boot sequence 12:16:36 lynx: the u-burn uses a variable entry point, as indicated in either the ELF file or the multiboot header 12:17:04 eks: do you usually run yoru lcd naked? 12:18:15 nothing: no, this was just for a 3 day period 12:18:29 the lcd is too dangerous when naked, it doesn't like to be touched, it cuts! 12:18:39 he 12:18:42 heh 12:18:42 killerdisplay 12:18:46 the metal panel sides are really really sharp, I cut myself like 10 times in a weekend 12:18:47 lol 12:18:49 har 12:18:54 76% of my new disk full 12:19:07 if you look at the picture where I salute, I have a plaster on 3 fingers on one hand :p 12:19:40 eks reminded me of someone when i saw those pics 12:19:44 and now i konw exactly who 12:19:51 he looks like Jean-Claude Van Damme!#!$@$!! 12:19:54 nothing lol 12:19:58 omg 12:19:59 lol 12:20:09 well 12:20:10 okay 12:20:20 then i am going to play with this stuff 12:20:25 doesn't he??! 12:20:27 heh 12:20:27 * eks pets lynx 12:20:28 eks : yesterday i learned pretty much! 12:20:38 about this asm+clibs+sdl :)) 12:20:39 * nothing half expected him to do some karate kicks in those pics 12:20:41 + linking 12:20:42 lynx: :) 12:21:03 nothing: I can, I studied karate for a couple of years and I've been training nunchucks for 6 years now 12:21:15 ... 12:21:34 haha 12:21:41 cool 12:23:02 * eks considers getting a bunch of resistors to make himself a R2R ladder (hand-made soundcard on the parallel port) 12:23:20 eks: Also known as a "Roland sound-system" 12:23:28 slowcoder: lol 12:23:53 eks: Honest to god.. They actually made a soundcard that worked like that.. Way back in the 286/386 days.. 12:24:36 slowcoder: well, it's supposed to be able to give good stereo 8bit 22KHz sound out :) 12:25:10 :) 12:25:12 --- nick: eks -> eks[busy] 12:25:16 It's... "acceptable" 12:25:23 hm 12:25:32 i wonder what kind of DSP the sparc's use 12:25:52 heh 12:27:57 --- nick: eks[busy] -> eks 12:29:45 eks, who's the guy in 11.jpg on that pic site? 12:31:08 nothing: still me... 12:31:21 eks : hrm 12:31:27 eks : your elfloader ... 12:31:37 eks : it checks for an elf signature? 12:31:39 --- quit: douwe () 12:31:48 lynx: yip 12:32:00 eks : so i can place any elf file , yehe.. 12:32:03 hrm 12:32:06 lynx: it checks for an elf signature and then checks if there's a multiboot signature 12:32:10 lynx: yip 12:32:17 HRM 12:32:18 lynx: just make sure to link it for a specified offset 12:32:31 eks : he? 12:32:34 ld -o myboot.bin myboot.o -Ttext 0x100000 12:32:38 hm 12:32:43 this will load myboot.bin at 1MB in memory 12:32:45 eks : oh 12:32:47 weird, in 11.jpg looks like you have a gut :) 12:33:33 nothing: somewhere that night I went to shave ;) 12:34:04 gut = ? 12:34:31 lynx: facial hair on the chin but no moustache and no beard 12:34:45 aye 12:35:04 Schamhaare im Gesicht 12:36:01 er 12:36:02 nooooooo 12:36:06 lynx: when you said "aye" it reminded me of this episode of "Noir".. the anime serie... 12:36:08 gut = fat stomach 12:36:08 ;/ 12:36:12 nothing: huh? 12:36:23 nothing: oh.. lol.. my bad 12:36:28 ... 12:36:34 nothing: no, I don't have a fat stomach .. it must have been the loose shirt 12:36:35 sux0rz 12:36:49 he 12:36:51 well 12:36:54 anyways 12:36:57 hrm 12:37:03 either that or the loose shirt hehe 12:37:09 eks : the stack is set up by ubrun ... and everything... 12:37:20 nothing: lol, I'm built for the beach, not for the bar :p 12:37:29 haha 12:37:36 you're built for the bathroom mirror :) 12:37:43 nothing: >:} 12:38:07 nothing : maybe we can send his design to realdoll.com 12:39:57 hahhahahahahaha 12:40:06 the Dave Porier model 12:40:09 lollolol 12:40:10 :PP 12:40:39 i don't think eks would want some nasty homosexual guys taking liberties with his silicon body :) 12:41:04 * lynx isnt sure 12:41:56 lol 12:42:05 as long as it's with my silicon and not me :p 12:42:28 * nothing wants to try one of the silicon realdolls (the female model) 12:42:39 that must be a very interesting experience 12:45:08 he 12:45:10 it is 12:46:06 lol@lynx 12:46:09 lynx: you tried it? 12:46:10 ;) 12:46:12 heh 12:47:05 *nosound* 12:47:05 http://www.realdoll.com/images/st15.jpg 12:48:19 okay 12:48:35 let`S get the uburn stuff somewhere 12:48:38 hrm 12:48:44 *thinkering* 12:49:36 HE?! 12:49:39 5KB ? 12:49:42 already? 12:49:45 WTF? 12:49:50 haha 12:50:01 lynx = bloatware coder ;} 12:50:13 elf sux 12:50:32 nothing : well not bad for a simple print-string routine :P 12:51:03 lynx: 'strip bloated.elffile' 12:51:31 hrm 12:52:01 elf doesnt suck 12:52:12 elf is a powerful industry-standard format 12:52:12 bye 12:52:44 if there is something that sucks, its the Windows Portable Executable that isnt so portable... (ie, try running a ALPHA/Sparc binary on x86) and with 16-bit dos compatibility 12:53:16 corsairk8: UBF is a much more compact format for relocatable/linked code 12:53:33 he 12:54:41 PE > ELF 12:54:56 there is a really good article about PE in Phrack 12:54:56 * eks slaps nothing for saying that 12:54:59 by scut 12:55:13 nothing: PE is heavily tied to 32bit architecture 12:55:42 well, it does have more features than elf 12:55:52 anyway, check this out: 12:55:53 --- quit: darkito_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:55:54 http://stormpages.com/taoa/taoababe/se.html 12:55:57 mmmMmMMmmmmmm 12:55:59 what good is it if it doesn't work on half the architecture sout there? 12:56:48 this is a really odd bug 12:57:08 --- quit: ink (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:57:17 witten: you mean the piece of code you implemented in nothing that keeps searching for porn? 12:58:05 haha 12:58:15 no, not that one 12:58:35 the one that causes a crash if I do a print of 5 characters or more followed immediately by another print 12:58:59 buffer overflow? 12:59:02 stack corruption? 12:59:07 I don't know 12:59:10 wild pointer? ;) 12:59:12 I'm trying to figure it out now 12:59:21 if I do four characters, it's fine 12:59:37 and if the prints are not successive, it's fine 13:00:48 --- quit: nbsp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:01:04 * eks waves nbsp goodbye 13:01:20 heading out for grocieries, bbl 13:01:57 witten: buy me some tropicana orange juice plz ;) 13:02:22 heh 13:02:30 that stuff is nsaty 13:03:55 nasty!?? 13:03:58 Bawls is nasty 13:04:20 bawls? 13:04:23 woa amazing nothing 13:04:24 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/6709.html 13:04:25 check that out 13:04:32 it may be useful to a h4x0r like me 13:04:38 it does the job, with less effort 13:04:40 :) 13:05:47 eks: do you know how to bind the F-keys in irssi? 13:05:55 i want f1 to change window 1, f2 to change window 2, etc 13:06:21 nothing: no, I use the standard binding ALT+num to change windows 13:06:25 you could ask in #irssi though 13:06:28 pretty sure they know 13:06:29 ;) 13:11:27 --- join: ink (~ink@user-vcauuqi.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 13:17:14 damn 13:17:20 bzflag runs like hell on my machine 13:17:54 eheh 13:18:15 lack of glx could be a problem 13:19:00 if you don't have hw accel in your X drivers, it will be slow as a bitch 13:19:23 if I use mesag3 I have like 4fps, if I use xlibmesa (with hw accel) I have like 170fps 13:22:17 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-7.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 13:25:59 http://jaja.kn.vutbr.cz/~rozsnyo/reas/index.php?path=./System_2001_v6 <-- sources of 'BlueBoard', a FreeDOS compatible OS have been released this march 2002 13:28:14 --- join: xray (~chatzilla@212.53.108.77) joined #osdev 13:29:26 hello xray 13:30:17 hi 13:30:28 what's up? 13:30:44 Pascal? :) 13:31:47 --- quit: xray ("ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla rv:0.9.9/00200203]") 13:36:33 Mozilla has a chat client? 13:38:05 mm 13:38:46 Rico: yeah 13:38:54 Rico: last time I checked it was buggy as hell 13:39:00 it looks like Xchat 13:40:47 well, it's a better idea than implementing a mp3player in mozilla, just like mirc.. 13:40:58 ehhe 13:41:04 what do I need an mp3 player within an irc client? 13:41:28 I don't have a microwave inside my cd burner either.. 13:41:37 do I? 13:41:45 hrm.. maybe ;) 13:51:06 I'm reading up on the C# specs 14:04:27 --- join: darkito (darkito@62-37-200-103.dialup.uni2.es) joined #osdev 14:04:36 hi 14:05:38 whata a really good graphical non-kde/gnome email client? 14:05:42 whats 14:05:55 outlook ? 14:06:00 stfu 14:06:16 :) 14:10:30 air: why don't you use mutt :p 14:10:45 air: sincerly though, the mozilla mail client is good 14:11:10 hey eks :) 14:11:46 * eks looks at his list of OSes and thinks there are just too many projects out there 14:11:49 hey darkito 14:12:10 eks: no its not 14:12:29 im using mozilla mail right now 14:14:13 eks : hrm 14:14:27 air: hrm.. squirrel then? 14:14:48 eks : then , why dont you try to make a project trying to suggest or introduce standards to them ? i mean binary wise for example 14:15:42 eks: wanna see a great site with more images of my 'sister'? 14:15:50 lynx: lol 14:16:28 lynx: because of the very reason they started working alone, because they do not want or can't accept ideas of others, or absolutely want to do things one way which differ than the way the other guys wants it 14:16:53 eks : hrm 14:16:53 lynx: many of those projects have totally contradicting ways of implementing the same ideas 14:16:55 eks : hrm 14:17:02 eks : well 14:17:15 eks : make an os with me then that uses standards 14:17:20 http://www.laetitia-gallery.com/ - Whoohoo! 14:17:21 ehehe 14:17:31 lynx: I do not want to work on another os project atm 14:18:11 --- join: df (~yakumo@host217-39-43-190.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined #osdev 14:18:25 what's eks busy with now 14:18:26 ? 14:18:34 Rico: updating my bookmarks.. 14:18:41 Rico: I've been 5 days at it now :( 14:19:30 squirrelmail? 14:20:22 what do you want with THAT bookmark list :) 14:20:34 I have only 2 bookmarks 14:20:50 one to the link above and one to your list :) 14:21:02 lol 14:21:42 http://home.swipnet.se/~w-68269/osx/osx.htm <-- OSX for Z80 ;) 14:27:25 Not quite _that_ OS-X though.. 14:27:41 But a pre-emptive multitasking os on the Z80.. impressive 14:30:23 --- join: d-bug (~tommy@as1-6-7.an.g.bonet.se) joined #osdev 14:30:27 hi 14:30:38 hehe 14:30:38 hej 14:36:45 lynx: http://www.lynuxworks.com/ <-- LynxOS 14:37:16 --- quit: df ("syntax: Ja matte ne!") 14:37:28 WUTAVUFK? 14:39:07 how gay 14:39:10 --- nick: lynx -> k_ 14:39:13 --- join: DRF (shadowdf@host213-121-70-218.surfport24.v21.co.uk) joined #osdev 14:39:55 lol@lynx changing his nick 14:40:00 heh 14:40:06 karmah huhuhuh 14:40:38 --- nick: k_ -> ` 14:40:42 <`> pff 14:40:49 --- nick: ` -> _ 14:40:53 <_> bah 14:41:01 <_> all those nicks already exist 14:41:05 *D 14:41:14 --- nick: _ -> ^ 14:41:17 <^> hrm 14:41:33 --- nick: ^ -> | 14:41:38 <|> bah 14:43:07 oh 14:43:09 lol 14:43:14 --- part: d-bug left #osdev 14:43:19 hey rob_ert :) 14:43:20 darkito: xD 14:45:54 --- nick: | -> ][ 14:45:56 <][> HAR 14:46:00 <][> this one isnt taken 14:46:07 <][> har har! 14:46:23 :DD 14:46:36 <][> xDD 14:46:37 --- nick: rob_ert -> ] 14:46:40 <]> grr 14:46:47 --- nick: ] -> ]`[ 14:47:23 <][> har 14:47:27 <][> har har! 14:47:28 --- nick: ]`[ -> rob_ert 14:47:42 <][> >^< 14:47:57 <][> >'< 14:48:14 lol 14:48:16 <][> ^*$*^ 14:48:21 <][> ^*_*^ 14:48:25 heh 14:48:26 <][> meow 14:48:26 huhuh 14:48:29 --- nick: darkito -> oO[db]Oo 14:48:37 <][> ohoh! 14:48:53 huh][huhu 14:49:01 /nick huhuhuh 14:49:02 <][> ^*_*^_*0(huhu) 14:49:05 lamers 14:49:07 --- nick: oO[db]Oo -> ] 14:49:10 lol eks 14:49:15 <][> lol 14:49:23 --- nick: ] -> DarKBlacK 14:49:23 didn't eks change his name to 'instinc' or something? 14:49:34 nothing: I use 'instinc' only when 'eks' is already taken 14:49:42 ah 14:49:49 what exactly does eks mean/stand for? 14:49:52 like on sf, 'eks' was already there, so I used instinc 14:49:58 Edward Kerny Safrois 14:50:01 lol 14:50:11 ... 14:50:22 why don't you just be 'dp'? :) 14:50:23 --- nick: DarKBlacK -> darkito 14:50:24 I like to think it means 'Eternity' 'Kaos' 'Space', but the history behind it is different 14:50:41 <][> ... 14:51:04 it comes from the high school years, back at that time I wanted to be "cool", so I came up with "ekstazya", but when growing up I quite noticed it wasn't "cool" so I shortened it a bit to "eks" 14:51:52 lol 14:51:52 the nice thing about "eks" is that it can sound like "x" or "hex", which is nice 14:51:59 <][> ^-_*^ 14:52:15 * rob_ert imagines eks as a lame scipt kiddie, heheh 14:52:23 <][> ^/_*^ <-- piratemonkey 14:52:25 :-) 14:52:25 rob_ert: ehehe, yes, I was once upon a time ;) 14:53:39 uh 14:53:40 what 14:53:43 ekstazya? 14:53:51 you're kidding me right?? 14:53:58 haha 14:54:47 hey, at least I'm stable with my nicks, unlike lynx 14:54:52 <][> shush 14:54:56 I've been using 'eks' for years 14:54:59 <][> ... 14:55:31 I always use my real name ;) 14:55:32 <][> eks : but you are changin your mood and mind more often than i change my nicks 14:55:43 Heh 14:56:06 http://www.compaq.com/hps/news/iceage.html 14:56:23 I loved that movie :)) 14:56:42 eks: were you into the cracking scene during your HS years? 14:56:43 <][> i watched it in the cinema 14:56:46 <][> i love it , too 14:56:54 <][> lol 14:57:19 3k5, dA l33t cr4><0r. 14:57:20 nothing: I used to be a carrier for a couple of warez group 14:57:33 Carrier? 14:57:37 <][> hr 14:57:37 * eks tries to remember the name of his BBS 14:57:39 What is that? 14:57:43 rob_ert: something comparable to an ftp dump site 14:57:58 they upload their 0-day warez and ppl pay membership to download 14:58:04 Heh 14:58:21 <][> eks : that's the worst thing i could ever expect form you 14:58:29 oh, there it is, "STRaNGeConNecTiON BBS" 14:58:36 <][> lol 14:58:41 --- nick: ][ -> lynx 14:58:44 htm 14:58:47 well 14:58:52 Hah 14:58:52 hey, I was young :P 14:58:58 * lynx gets his new puter 14:59:07 i just have to install the hw parts 14:59:11 What about "FrUStrAtIoN"? :)) 14:59:14 back in those days I had yet to learn what was the "internet" 14:59:25 rob_ert: I was younger than now ;) 14:59:32 and it's FRuSTRaTiON ;) 14:59:36 Bah... 5 months or something. 14:59:37 ;)) 15:00:27 lol 15:01:01 hrm 15:01:03 ohoh 15:01:09 * lynx in need of dd 15:01:24 dd if=source of=destination bs=blocksize count=count 15:01:35 `info dd` 15:02:07 '/msg eks info dd' 15:02:33 eks diskdrive 15:02:57 lallalal 15:03:04 --- quit: DRF () 15:05:35 hrm 15:05:37 Yay for 2^95000 different keys. 15:06:04 hrm 15:06:14 either i build a complete p100 15:06:15 or 15:06:18 a 486 15:06:20 hrm 15:06:22 or both? 15:06:23 Both!" 15:06:32 well 15:06:39 dunt want to waste that muchos spaces 15:06:43 spacos 15:06:45 so... 15:06:47 hrm 15:06:59 i take the 486 15:07:09 =) 15:09:32 well 15:09:54 i need a disaply 15:10:50 hm 15:10:58 MOo32 OS -> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7477/os.html 15:10:58 why do you need a 486 lynx? 15:11:10 You _always_ need more computers. 15:11:12 to test my new kernel 15:11:12 Always. 15:11:22 it is the best kernel ever 15:11:31 Written in BASIC ? 15:11:36 asm 15:11:54 send the kernel lynx 15:11:55 huhuh 15:12:03 no 15:12:08 i have to test it first 15:12:23 you know it`s complex software 15:12:32 15 lines ;) 15:13:06 heh 15:13:12 use bochs to test 15:13:15 on your indigo2 15:14:51 15 lines xD 15:14:55 woah cool! 15:15:08 i found a 6.4 gigs drive and stuff in the p100 15:15:16 and soundboard and gfx card pci! 15:15:53 lol 15:16:17 well 15:16:22 i dont need that =) 15:16:33 it`s just taking too much power 15:19:33 leeos.cjb.net <-- nice layout, dunno about the os 15:24:07 heh 15:24:11 judge an os by its website :) 15:24:44 Hehe 15:24:54 If you think like that, uuu would be good :P 15:25:02 oh yeah 15:25:09 i must say that... the uuu webpage was really cool :) 15:25:13 and the logo 15:26:02 mmmm...organic software 15:26:08 * rob_ert eats something organic. 15:28:35 * nothing eats uuu 15:29:24 * Rico pukes all over nothing 15:30:02 eheh 15:30:15 * eks is happy to be the author of both the logo and the site :p 15:30:27 what prog did you use to generate that logo? 15:30:37 does anyone know if there has to be these two lines twisted on the floppy cable? 15:30:40 nothing: blender 15:30:41 the data onbe? 15:30:45 mmmm blender 15:30:47 :) 15:30:51 so that's actually useful for something... 15:30:51 heh 15:30:59 eheh 15:31:14 i wish there was 3ds max for unix 15:31:19 actually 15:31:19 hello? 15:31:25 may i get an answer 15:31:25 there is maya for linux now 15:31:26 ? 15:31:30 lynx: NO 15:31:39 okay 15:31:44 lynx: well, what two lines? 15:31:52 on the data cable 15:31:52 can you be more detailed? 15:32:21 maybe four lines are twisted 15:33:37 oh yes 15:33:41 all my floppy cables have that 15:34:13 ok 15:34:14 hrm 15:34:16 hrm 15:34:24 huhu? :) 15:38:33 argh 15:38:45 ? 15:38:45 i have so fucking mayn puter parts 15:39:06 hm 15:39:21 like 3 complete p100++ with nic soundcrad etc , one 486 , one pII maybe 15:39:21 maybe if you get lucky you can find an R10k/max impact boardset among the parts 15:39:28 and the parts are old 15:39:30 and dusty 15:39:43 and i feel itchy when i toucht them 15:39:46 heh 15:40:22 hrm 15:40:29 damn sgi workstation 15:40:32 and hrm 15:40:40 everything needs some much power+space 15:40:56 hrm 15:41:03 i need a buffer room 15:41:06 bigger 15:41:56 is sgi running? 15:42:24 nah 15:42:29 too much heat + noise 15:42:38 ??!? 15:42:40 wth 15:42:44 sgi's are silent!#! 15:42:50 WTF???? 15:42:52 at least, the octane is 15:42:55 no noise at all 15:43:30 its loud as three camels farting at the same time after eating texan bean stew 15:43:58 har 15:44:00 it works! 15:44:10 starting PC DOS 15:44:26 --- join: shane (~shane@user139.net180.fl.sprint-hsd.net) joined #osdev 15:44:32 Hey. 15:44:54 ok 15:45:04 Hi 15:46:10 What's going on? 15:47:02 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp79464.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 15:47:30 hrm 15:47:35 HRM 15:47:39 i need a hub 15:47:47 then i could load the os via netboot 15:50:30 uhhhh 15:50:36 don't you already have a network? 15:50:48 sure 15:50:59 but i have 3 nics in my server 15:51:08 and each nic is connected to a certain comp 15:51:16 i would need another nic 15:51:58 he 15:52:07 just booted UUU with my ex sb 16 cell 15:52:15 eks : btw i have now the original sb16 :PP 15:53:03 lynx: :) 15:53:10 its a huge board 15:53:15 but i dont really need it :( 15:56:05 he 15:56:19 eks : hrm ... the bootloader doesnt stop loading 15:57:06 lynx: did you properly used e2u3map? 15:58:44 well 15:58:48 i am using grub at the moment 15:59:09 and i just mv`d the k.bin to u3core.bin 16:02:11 hello? 16:04:17 hello? 16:04:46 olleh. 16:05:06 hullo 16:05:41 damnit 16:05:42 pff 16:06:53 lynx: the name doesn't matter 16:07:05 u-burn requires a 'map' to be created using e2u3map 16:07:16 i know 16:07:22 but i am using grub 16:07:37 eheh, alrighty 16:08:16 he 16:08:32 you know it just hangs and loads and loads and switches some videmodes 16:12:59 --- join: lucipher (~lucipher@213.22.169.105) joined #osdev 16:14:12 --- quit: Aardappel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:15:40 eks : no idea? 16:17:41 lynx: your os? 16:17:49 or my bootrecord? 16:18:20 well 16:18:23 basically 16:18:33 i dunno shit why it loads and loads and laods 16:18:39 eks : any ideas 16:18:53 is nasm -f elf wrong ? 16:20:04 lynx: you need to: 16:20:08 nasm -f elf myfile.o 16:20:19 ld -o kernel.bin myfile.o -Ttext 0x100000 16:20:25 i do 16:20:38 myfile.asm 16:21:13 anyting that must be in the asm file i might be missing? 16:21:33 maybe the multiboot header? 16:21:51 HEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMM 16:21:52 yes 16:22:02 lemme ask google 16:23:30 Google knows all. 16:25:27 huhuhu 16:27:22 bah 16:27:26 multiboot header 16:27:29 pfff 16:27:46 hey 16:27:52 im wondering 16:27:54 when writing my vm 16:28:02 do i have to keep track of two vm areas? one for kernel and one for user? 16:28:29 yes 16:28:33 you have to!! 16:28:35 it's a law!!!!11 16:28:37 ;) 16:28:51 * lynx thinks 16:28:55 argh 16:28:59 otherwise the british police will come after you 16:28:59 too late to read that specs 16:29:06 lynx: you should really buy a network switch 16:29:14 nothing shush 16:29:19 it's not a good idea to use your server as a hub 16:29:31 eks : are there proggies that do that? because of checksum and co? 16:29:40 nothing : why not? 16:29:47 I wonder how many ARM processors i use a day. 16:30:10 where can i find info or tutors on writing a vm? 16:30:21 corsairk8: What do you wanna know? ;) 16:30:36 --- quit: lucipher (".") 16:32:49 lynx: the checksum can be done manually, it's pretty easy to do 16:33:08 how was iut done in uuu? 16:33:59 lynx: u3l 16:34:11 doh 16:34:22 *thinking* 16:37:42 * nothing watches sparks fly out of lynx's ears 16:40:55 lynx dead 16:44:53 shane: everything 16:44:58 how should i maintain my lists of memory usage? 16:45:15 like allocations 16:45:19 or file mappings 16:46:58 Hey guys, i never tried doing this... 16:47:04 But in C, can you do this: 16:47:07 oh 16:47:13 if ( 5 == x ) ... ; 16:47:18 To do the same as: 16:47:23 if ( x == 5 ) ... ; 16:47:24 ? 16:47:28 well duhhh 16:47:32 Probably, yes. 16:47:36 probably, of course 16:47:43 You can? 16:47:46 why not? 16:47:53 I don't know, i'm asking. :) 16:48:04 == evaluates if tho expressions are the same 16:48:08 simular to cmp 16:48:14 now it doesnt matter 16:48:16 cmp eax, ebx 16:48:18 is the same as 16:48:21 cmp ebx, eax 16:48:28 Ok. 16:48:32 when you are evaluating whether two things are the same 16:48:40 as long as they are the same, it is true, no matter if they are 16:48:48 3 == 4 is the same as 4 == 3 16:48:59 simular as 5 == 5 is the same as its counterpart (which is the same) 16:49:00 corsairk8: I Understand the concept. :) 16:49:06 I was just wondering if C allows it. 16:49:13 * corsairk8 is of 16:49:15 f 16:49:17 * corsairk8 brb 16:49:24 cya corsi 16:49:39 * eks really wonders if he could use scout on his main box... 16:49:57 CXool. 16:49:59 *cool 16:50:03 You can do this in my language now: 16:50:14 if ( x = 5 ) == y then ... ; 16:50:21 Fancy. 16:51:24 huh... 16:51:33 fancy... 16:51:41 i came to the conclusion that it is his fault 16:51:43 shane: and that's doing an assignment then a compare? 16:51:55 yeah 16:52:07 if y==5 then 16:52:33 fancy ;) 16:52:45 argh 16:52:48 now 16:52:55 that everything is nice and fluffy 16:53:04 What about this? 16:53:06 and everyone is happy and gay 16:53:07 x**; 16:53:09 maybe... 16:53:11 fluffy! 16:53:11 Can you do that in C? :) 16:53:14 fancy and gay 16:53:21 now 16:53:22 hrm 16:53:23 shane: not that you would *want* to 16:53:31 That's not the question. 16:53:33 how can i do this checksum stuff ? 16:53:34 err 16:53:34 CAN YOU!? :) 16:53:39 the complete multibootloader? 16:53:42 err 16:53:47 just the complete header 16:53:53 *late it is* 16:54:03 lynx: you have 4 values to compute 16:54:17 0 - value1 - value2 - value3 = checksum 16:54:24 not very hard 16:56:32 uhrm 16:56:34 well 16:56:36 uhrm 16:56:40 value?! 16:56:52 bah 16:57:26 eks: what's the model number of your NEC lcd again? 16:57:28 1500V? 16:57:30 eks : well 16:57:43 eks : you could gimme input or not 16:57:47 nothing: 1525V 16:58:04 eks: How is that LCD? 16:58:09 I might get an NEC LCD soon. 16:58:20 shane: it's simply awesome :) 16:58:24 What size? 16:58:32 is the 1700V a good model? 16:58:38 shane: http://www.corpriel.com/fun/pics.php <-- the tiny monitor on those pics 16:58:45 ok. 16:59:06 nothing: I'm not familiar with the 17xx serie, but my guess is that NEC made good ones for all of them 16:59:16 nothing: I haven't seen much stuff done by NEC that wasn't quality 16:59:18 Who's that freak? :D 16:59:30 shane: most likely me ;) 16:59:33 haha. 16:59:35 ok. 16:59:56 It looks cooler when it's taken apart. 17:00:01 yiop 17:00:06 Is that 17 inch? 17:00:20 15" LCD equivalent to a 17" CRT 17:00:31 That's what that guy i talked to said. 17:00:47 How much did you pay for it? 17:00:50 17" CRT == 15.2" viewable, 15" LCD == 15" viewable 17:01:01 http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/home/product.cfm?productid=162&cfid=3953708&cftoken=73371610 17:01:04 mmMmmmMmmmm 17:01:13 and at least you won't break your back when you move the monitor around :P 17:01:25 Hell yeah. 17:01:31 eks : i assume a "no"? 17:01:36 My CRT has been good to me though. 17:01:47 Considering how much i use it. 17:01:56 lynx: no, there is a code sample in u3l, but you don't like C, so no 17:02:18 eks: Is there a network block-device standard that isn't transported over IP ? 17:03:07 nothing: it's not the highest resolution 18.1" they have.. 17:03:30 slowcoder: not that I know of 17:03:49 eks: Crap.. Then I haveto write it myself.. .) 17:03:52 eks: which is? 17:03:59 slowcoder: probably not, I don't know shit in that field :p 17:04:07 should i go for a low-resolution 18"/17" or a high resolution 15"? 17:04:11 eks : pfff 17:04:24 eks: It's not much of an hassle to write my own though.. :) 17:04:47 eks : you are as rough to your friends as your sexual flavours 17:05:09 hahaha 17:05:15 sexual flavors? 17:05:16 nothing: hrm.. seems like it is the highest res.. 17:05:32 oh sweet 17:05:36 NEC 1700V is $600 17:05:40 nothing: :) 17:05:47 that's probably the one to get 17:05:53 nothing: the prices dropped alot lately 17:05:57 yes 17:05:58 err 17:05:58 What's better, using "begin" and "end" to mark blocks of code, of the c "{" and "}"? 17:06:00 favours 17:06:04 shane: neither 17:06:13 Use nothing? 17:06:25 use "Hi KiDZZ ThiSeS CoDE HERE STartz here k!??" 17:06:26 nothing: a friend bought a 1525V at 1200$US, I bought mine 2 weeks later at 1000$US, and a friend of mine bought his 3 weeks after me for 800$ :( 17:06:32 and end with "NOW TEH CODE ENDS KTHNX" 17:06:33 nothing: hehehe. 17:07:48 nothing: for readability (and maintainability) use "begin" and "end" with possible keyword to identify them like "begin mainloop" which can only be matched to "end mainloop" 17:08:03 nothing: this saves alot of trouble when you have multiple indented {} 17:08:05 oops... 17:08:06 uh 17:08:08 heh 17:08:09 s/nothing/shane/ 17:08:11 s/nothing/shane 17:08:13 heh 17:08:13 ;) 17:08:26 although, i think 'begin' and 'end' are tedious to type out 17:08:34 shane: otherwise ppl will do like in C: } /* if(lkjl==3) */ 17:08:37 maybe something like {main and }main 17:08:52 nothing: this could work also yeah 17:09:02 then again 17:09:03 Pascal does the begin and end thing. 17:09:14 they don't use such niceties in asm, and that *is* your favorite way of interfacing with the computer 17:09:19 shane: Ada83 and Ada95 too :) 17:09:32 I miss Pascal. :( 17:09:36 nothing: we don't have 'if' statement either ;) 17:09:45 But you have cmp. 17:09:50 and jmp. 17:09:55 shane: which falls WAY short of if 17:10:05 and jne... 17:10:12 ...and a million other j's. 17:10:26 consider a complex if like: if((this val==3) || ((otherval ==2) && (myval >= 3))) then { 17:10:38 What about it? 17:10:48 it's a major pain in the but to write with cmp and Jcc 17:10:54 Well, you can use macros. 17:10:59 To simplify it. 17:11:02 lol 17:11:02 ehehe 17:11:14 I've seen it done this way: 17:11:24 .if eax == 10 then 17:11:24 the mbootmagicnumber is 0x1badb002 17:11:26 ...asmcode... 17:11:29 .endif 17:11:30 sounds like bad booze 17:11:31 shane: you write in asm to get speed, not to use macros :P 17:11:34 =) 17:11:42 Macros just do the work for you. :) 17:11:53 shane: that's what C is for, just a bunch of macros 17:12:17 indeed 17:12:18 eks: It's different if you just use a macro assembler. 17:12:24 C is a portable macro assembler 17:12:56 no it's not, it's speshul?$@! 17:12:57 shane: C is a portable macro assembler which can even optimize your 'if' and 'while' statements etc.. 17:13:28 Well, 17:13:37 I wouldn't call C a macro assembler. :) 17:13:39 But ok. 17:14:38 oh wow 17:14:50 $355 for the NEC 1550V 15" LCD 17:14:51 insane 17:14:55 i've *got* to buy one 17:15:09 nothing: A local store is selling an NEC 15" for 299. 17:15:23 nothing: you've got to buy two! 17:15:29 hm 17:15:32 nothing: you can fit 2 of them easily on a desk :PP 17:15:37 eks: that would be interesting actually 17:15:44 dual head 17:15:45 mmmmm 17:15:48 mmmmMMmm 17:15:55 i could run mozilla on one 17:15:58 dual super TFT .... mmMmmmMM 17:15:58 everything else on the other 17:15:59 no need of two heads 17:28:37 --- quit: rob_ert ("(:") 17:28:51 --- quit: wossname ("jesus christ is in heaven now") 17:32:43 *thinking* 17:33:28 lynx: you could use two heads to think ;) 17:33:59 hm 17:34:05 eks, is the Eizo LCD line any good? 17:34:16 HAHAHAHAHAH 17:34:23 i made a multiboot header!!! 17:34:25 yayay 17:34:33 * lynx jumps 17:34:36 Weee! 17:34:38 lynx: :) 17:34:55 hrm 17:34:57 nothing: I must admit that ever since I got my LCD, I've stop'd looking at monitors :P 17:35:01 it just doesnt execute my code 17:35:04 hrm 17:35:06 nothing: so I don't know about those 17:35:10 *wondering* 17:35:20 lynx: you sure the entry point is set? 17:35:20 eks : possible that the alignment doesnt work? 17:35:23 no 17:35:30 do i have to 17:35:38 mov esp , 0x10000 ? 17:35:43 or something? 17:35:49 it's in the header 17:35:53 you have to set the entry point 17:36:02 hrm 17:36:06 *heul* 17:36:06 unless you use the ELF entry point with the _start symbol 17:36:11 i do! 17:36:27 but then, if you figure out how to use ELF, the _start symbol might work ;) 17:36:42 hrm 17:36:47 what is *heul*? 17:36:52 weep 17:36:54 nothing: he is weeping 17:36:57 ah 17:36:59 heh 17:37:01 another lynxism :) 17:37:09 ;) 17:37:17 ^*_-^ 17:37:17 --- nick: slowcoder -> Zzzzlowcoder 17:37:20 noxism moxism blackmilkism and 300 other nicks ;) 17:37:54 he 17:38:04 it tells me entry = 0x1000c 17:38:06 hrm 17:38:09 so? 17:38:29 will your code works if you enter at the 12th byte of your binary? 17:38:31 http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/index.html 17:39:06 eks : if i knew how that worked 17:39:13 works 17:41:25 nothing: dunno, just never heard of them, and the specs do not seems better/worse than the NEC you showed us 17:43:15 eks ? 17:43:54 lynx: ? 17:44:15 well 17:44:23 i have no clue :/ 17:48:40 hrm 17:49:49 hrm 17:52:56 hrm 18:03:00 anyone know what JPilot is? 18:03:29 or gpgme 18:04:01 uhrm 18:04:05 palm stuph? 18:05:01 i coulda guessed that :) 18:08:34 heh 18:08:39 java palm pilot sync software 18:10:35 oh kewl 18:10:44 i can hotsync my spam to my pilot 18:10:54 for example 18:11:00 or pr0n 18:11:06 or boozecalender 18:11:43 anyone use sylpheed? 18:11:57 MMmmmmMMmmm sounds like a drug 18:12:03 mail cliean 18:12:05 client 18:12:07 oh 18:12:30 i tried 0.5 and it kicked ass but had a few problems, 0.7.4 is now out 18:12:45 hopefully it fixed the problems 18:19:12 hm 18:19:13 really? 18:19:17 is it a console client? 18:19:20 gtk 18:19:30 hm 18:19:34 * nothing checks it out 18:19:41 u can control everything in it with keyboard 18:19:55 what did you use before this one? 18:19:56 mutt? 18:22:33 mozilla mail 18:23:22 i wanna dump mozilla tho 18:26:05 ugh 18:26:08 mozilla mail sucks 18:27:04 gah 18:27:30 sylpheed is somehow not using all the normal gtk colors 18:28:12 i have pale green windows and dark green panes and all text is white, but sylpheed is using black text in the panes 18:29:09 take a screenshot of your current desktop 18:29:14 i wanna see how your gtk looks 18:29:47 qzx.com/about/X-theme/ 18:30:19 sylpheed does let u customize a lot 18:30:52 air 18:30:58 can i have a host under qzx.com? :) 18:31:05 like, an A record that points to my ip? :) 18:31:40 eks : dunno why it stopsexecuting :/ 18:31:54 ya 18:35:10 OHHH 18:35:17 it works?! 18:35:25 hrm 18:35:29 does it ? 18:35:42 i just do a realmode int for fun 18:35:45 and it reboots 18:36:52 --- join: I440r (~mark4@1Cust143.tnt3.bloomington.in.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 18:37:16 HRM 18:42:00 fancy 18:48:56 --- nick: darkito -> darkbed 18:49:05 see you 18:52:26 lynx: fancy!! 18:54:09 hmm 18:54:50 nothing : it prints huhu! 18:55:03 sylpheed lets u check which items (To, CC, BCC, Subject, etc) are displayed when composing mail, but the To and CC are grayed out so i cant uncheck them 19:07:55 --- quit: corsairk8 ("pulling out, speed factor 7.31 vector 5.192, 12.1, 37.1982 inclination -3.121") 19:16:00 --- quit: Zenton (Remote closed the connection) 19:22:15 cya 19:24:11 huh 19:24:14 huhu 19:24:31 grr...anybody familiar with Apache here? 19:25:51 air is an apache wizard 19:25:58 i use AOLServer for everything :) 19:26:35 * eks pokes air 19:30:54 what's the term for a Line on irc that allows you to link your server to another? 19:30:55 I:Line? 19:31:28 I:Line or I:Link 19:31:29 not sure 19:31:39 thanks 19:37:52 * Chille is back :) 19:39:45 )*@!)*$)!!@ 19:39:52 |04:10:30| *** AwaX|A has quit IRC (eXtreme 2 + 2 = 6 for extremely large values of 2.) 19:39:54 ;DD 19:39:55 just a stupid thing in my httpd.conf I'm sure but it doesn't work :(( 19:42:14 --- quit: lynx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:51:08 --- join: wjorzk (~cheese@66-44-45-178.s1448.apx1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com) joined #osdev 19:55:05 hellu wjorzk 20:09:44 --- join: Atn[haha] (~ATNNN@dsl-59-52.aei.ca) joined #osdev 20:16:04 --- nick: Atn[haha] -> n3rd01d 20:16:11 ne1 alive? 20:17:09 :) 20:17:24 i found a few docs on deving oses online 20:17:39 hehe 20:17:42 url? ;) 20:17:48 but im on windows and i cant get my linker to work like ld 20:17:52 :( 20:18:17 :/ 20:18:25 chille is also on windoows :D 20:18:51 http://www.nondot.org/sabre/os/articles 20:19:03 http://www.mega-tokyo.com/os/os-faq.html 20:20:07 hehe... tha last one im reading right now and the first one i've seen before ;) 20:23:03 --- quit: n3rd01d (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:28:22 --- quit: nbsp (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 20:28:22 --- quit: jewel (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 20:28:36 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-7.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 20:28:36 --- join: jewel (~jleuner@spamisevil.test.ie.vianw.net) joined #osdev 20:35:49 hmmm 20:35:51 huhuh 20:56:39 damn i think i'm addicted to "huhuh" 20:58:58 :P 21:08:31 hmm 21:08:34 eks: do you still use ion? 21:08:36 (the wm) 21:08:47 nothing: yip 21:08:58 hmmmm 21:09:02 i think i'll try that 21:09:06 it looks pretty neat 21:09:09 it is :) 21:09:10 * nothing is using blackbox rite now 21:09:23 i just switched to blackbox today, have been using wmaker for a while 21:09:43 i like how clean and fast blackbox is 21:09:51 :) 21:09:52 but it lacks a bit of functionality 21:10:01 like? 21:10:12 it just seems too spartan 21:10:13 heh 21:10:21 is it possible to use the mouse at all with ion? 21:10:28 yip 21:10:37 you can move the window, resize them, select them, etc.. 21:10:41 oo 21:10:43 nice 21:10:58 but at least if you want you can _not_ use it :) 21:11:50 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:12:00 * nothing imagined that if the UUU gui was ever completed, it would look like ion 21:18:34 nothing: eheh 21:19:10 --- nick: nothing -> n-Zzz 21:19:21 gn :) 21:22:41 what u need help with? 21:25:14 --- quit: wjorzk ("Client Exiting") 21:27:46 air: I got it working ;) 21:43:49 --- quit: ink (Remote closed the connection) 21:46:14 --- join: ink_ (~ink@user-vcauudn.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 21:46:17 re 21:46:31 --- nick: ink_ -> ink 21:48:49 gah 21:48:54 ? 21:49:04 sylpheed's mail filters suck 21:49:11 :P 21:49:13 heh 21:49:20 each rule can have two conditions 21:49:37 netscape let each rule have 5 and mozilla is unlimited 21:49:46 :) 21:50:20 it also doesnt support color labels like mozilla 21:50:52 anyone know how to use procmail? 21:51:10 no =/ 21:51:31 i knew u didnt Mr. Windows :) 21:52:38 and sylpheed doesnt let u filter fields that arent in its fixed list like Content-type: and Received: 21:53:25 kinda dumb why content-type isnt one of the defaults in all mailers 21:56:30 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 22:02:07 Got my PT tracker script done :) http://void-core.2y.net/perl/pt.pl 22:02:23 PT? 22:02:54 Physical Training 22:03:55 Access Denied 22:03:57 =((( 22:04:07 lol@chille 22:04:11 :)) 22:04:15 Chille: I won't let you fill entries for me! 22:04:20 :\ 22:04:24 hehe 22:05:05 yer PT sucks 22:05:24 mine is the ultimate PT and only has one routine 22:05:35 donut eating 22:05:39 air: lol 22:05:41 :D 22:05:59 air: I like my pt, I'll probably add more events as I come with them to fill them up 22:06:10 you should be happy though, i used a flat text db ;) 22:06:23 haha 22:06:41 :D 22:07:34 bah.. someday I'll take the time to learn SQL.. 22:07:39 * air is writing a script that continuously generates passwds and submits them to that page 22:07:48 sql is easy 22:07:53 way too easy 22:07:53 ahahah 22:08:00 hehe MySQL is VERY easy ;) 22:08:02 its like pmode 22:08:04 air: have fun, I have a good password 22:08:17 lol@air ;) 22:08:56 12 digits, shouldnt be too hard to crack with brute force 22:09:10 who said it's digits only? :P 22:09:12 aks >> i know your password :PPDD:DPPPPPPPD:*P :)))(D98 22:09:35 eks password is: ******** :P 22:09:43 * eks notes that 64^12 is quite a few combinations.. 22:09:51 i didnt mean numbers 22:10:26 Chille: you are good ;) 22:10:33 :D 22:10:47 eks: want me to teach u sql in 5mins? 22:10:56 air: nah, maybe tomorrow ;) 22:11:20 I know how to make a request, I just don't know the management part, creating tables, giving user permissions, etc.. 22:11:28 DELETE * FROM #osdev WHERE NICK='eks' LIMIT 1 22:11:29 :P 22:11:37 haha 22:11:56 Chille: tstst 22:12:17 SELECT ass FROM human WHERE name='air' 22:12:18 :P 22:12:19 user perms is admin stuff 22:12:42 echo "$result"; 22:12:43 (_,_) 22:12:45 :P 22:12:47 anyway, time for me to reach my bed 22:12:49 gn :) 22:12:53 --- nick: eks -> eks[zzZzz] 22:12:53 nite ;) 22:13:55 Chille: will u send me an email? 22:14:02 why? 22:14:16 i need to test something 22:14:22 hmm... w8 ;) 22:14:37 what is your email? 22:15:41 mail sent to: brand@qzx.com. Result is: 1 22:15:44 oops 22:15:54 mail sent to: **********. Result is: 1 22:15:55 ;) 22:15:58 gah 22:15:59 hehehe 22:16:20 now its in the logs and will get spammed by email harvesters 22:16:30 :/ 22:17:39 have you got the mail? ;) 22:17:50 dunno, i just broke the font in the mailer 22:17:59 :P 22:20:05 is that yer email address? 22:20:28 hehe 22:20:29 i need to reply and then have u reply back 22:20:29 no 22:20:32 ugh 22:20:33 its bill gates ;) 22:20:41 ink: will u send me an email? 22:20:42 w8 22:20:48 i send you another mail ;) 22:20:53 k 22:21:09 btw, u misspelled yer own name 22:21:10 you want an email? 22:21:10 :) 22:21:13 of what? 22:21:25 ink: nm, chille is gonna send 22:21:28 k 22:21:42 i ned to test threading in sylpheed 22:21:45 need 22:21:46 mail sent to: *************. Result is: 1 22:21:47 ;) 22:22:19 wtf 22:22:22 ? 22:22:29 From: "/me\\r\\nReply-to": chille@djchille.net 22:22:33 :P 22:22:37 hmm... 22:22:56 oops 22:22:59 :D 22:23:00 From: "/me\\r\\nReply-to": ********** 22:23:16 what is yer from set to? 22:23:28 from: /me 22:23:29 ;) 22:23:35 hmm 22:23:42 i dont care if i get spammed... i just make a new mail account :D 22:24:43 i wonder if thats a bug in yer client or mine 22:25:01 hmm... i think it is yours ;P 22:25:06 * Chille is using PHP ;D 22:25:09 heh 22:25:16 w8 22:25:18 uhh 22:25:23 i think it was u 22:25:48 especially if u used php 22:26:16 -\\ 22:26:16 "/me\\r\\nReply-to" 22:26:16 Test Subject 22:27:24 that was u 22:27:46 :'( 22:27:47 it should be \r\n 22:28:00 yes it is but i think PHP fuck it up =/ 22:28:19 actually it just needs \n 22:28:29 :) 22:28:43 maybe windows browsers need the \r 22:29:06 sylpheed isnt doing threads 22:29:08 :) 22:29:32 thats another line for my sylpheed-complaint file 22:30:53 threading dont work, filters suck, no color labels and message pane fg/bg colors are not user selectable and the damn message pane fg does not use gtk theme color 22:31:04 those are my 4 major complaints 22:31:14 :) 22:33:29 minor complaints are: error and exit dialogs dont use gtk theme fg color and are fugly, on startup the client doesnt open any folders (i thought it lost my mail) it should defaul to inbox on startup, the folder sidebox has to be resized to make it go away (it should have a button to open/close it like mozilla, logo on help window is anti-aliased and dont look good unless u use default gtk theme, url on help window is blue and cant be 22:33:52 seen with my gtk theme colors and the prefs allow u to change url colors but that url doesnt use the color 22:33:55 phew 22:34:10 those are the problems sylpheed has so far 22:34:30 this is one reason i like to write my own programs 22:34:39 :D 22:34:57 its also why i made brix split apps into front and back ends 22:35:22 any user can design his own front end without needed to rewrite the app 22:36:02 hmm... why cant i run brix with bochs? 22:36:04 the gutts of every mail client is probably identical 22:38:03 u can 22:38:30 no i cant =/ 22:39:07 i just ran the image under 1.4 22:39:31 339 works fine but 611 is working but its not 22:39:45 oops 22:39:48 i mean; i can :) 22:39:58 i just named the .img file wrong =( 22:40:04 heh 22:40:32 i have it named imnage.bin but in bochsrc.txt it was imnage.img :) 22:41:37 damn 22:41:40 it crached =/ 22:41:51 hmm... i think i will install a newer version now =) 22:41:53 it did? 22:42:03 what version? 22:44:25 1.3 22:44:41 i run 1.4 now but i cant the the green text = 22:45:21 611 is only half working in 1.4 22:45:29 --- quit: I440r ("abort" even coders have to sleep SOMETIME"") 22:45:30 :( 22:45:39 339 works fine 22:45:39 is it working on a flyppy? :) 22:45:51 brix dont work at all on real computers 22:46:00 :(/ 22:46:14 something in brix/kernel/setup/oload.inc doesnt like real computers 22:46:22 :( 22:46:34 * Chille slaps in brix/kernel/setup/oloader.inc with a large trout 22:46:38 and im guessing that bochs 1.4 dont like my 32bit floppy code 22:46:42 * Chille slaps in brix/kernel/setup/oloader.inc around a bit with a large trout 22:46:43 :) 23:06:12 kewl 23:06:24 ctrl-h toggles normal and full headers 23:06:48 netscape makes u go into the menus to do that 23:24:05 --- nick: darkbed -> darkito 23:24:09 morning 23:26:12 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/02.04.06