00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/02.04.27 00:00:48 --- join: dax (you@u212-239-163-104.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 00:00:49 --- quit: jace48 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:00:52 wtf 00:01:13 i686-linux-ld: kern: not enough room for program headers (allocated 2, need 3) 00:04:10 oh, I hate that 00:04:21 upgrade your version of ld / binutils 00:05:04 hmm 00:05:06 beh 00:13:24 is it a bug in binutils or what? 00:16:44 I think so 00:16:50 ah 00:16:56 at least some people on usenet seemed to think so 00:17:10 and it's solved in newer versions? 00:17:35 and older versions too, I think 00:18:00 lets see if 2.12 works... 00:19:19 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:34:34 --- join: daxy (you@u212-239-163-104.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 00:34:36 great 00:34:37 it works :) 00:37:23 cool 00:37:30 I pulled out much hair over that bug 00:37:37 thought it was something wrong with my code / build scripts 00:38:30 --- nick: Zenton -> Zenton_work 00:46:06 hmm 00:46:32 anyone alive? 00:48:53 ain't nobody but us chickens 00:51:49 hehe 00:52:36 as i lost most of my recent daxos code i think i'm just going to start from scratch again 00:52:47 --- quit: dax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:53:09 only i'm going to try to design it a bit better this time 00:53:21 oh no :( how'd you lose it? 00:53:28 drives crashed on me 00:53:34 (2 main drives & backup drive) 00:53:44 murphy was right. 00:53:46 hehe 00:53:48 ugh! 00:53:55 all at the same time? did you move the box or something? 00:54:00 didn't move the box 00:54:03 weird 00:54:07 maybe a power spike 00:54:09 nah 00:54:15 my 2 main drives were dying 00:54:18 you should put up a cvs server or something so it's always out there 00:54:18 i knew that 00:54:21 dang 00:54:26 so i ordered 2 new ones 00:54:37 and the old ones crashed just before i copied the data to the new ones 00:54:44 then i grabbed my backup disk 00:55:00 and it decided to place some good ol' bad sectors on top of my backups 00:55:29 aww :( 00:55:38 did you give the code to anyone else who might have a copy? 00:55:58 well i have a copy 00:56:05 but i changed alot after that 00:56:19 sucks 00:56:22 nah 00:56:37 this just creates a good opertunity to rewrite everything, and make it better than ever before :) 00:57:36 i wonder if i should stick to a microkernel... 00:57:43 heh 00:59:35 --- join: d-bug (~tommy@as1-6-7.an.g.bonet.se) joined #osdev 01:01:29 --- part: d-bug left #osdev 01:03:33 hmm 01:04:19 btw, what are "cache-kernels" ? 01:04:59 I think it's a marketing term created by some guys at stanford 01:07:45 hmm 01:20:40 http://www-dsg.stanford.edu/papers/cachekernel/main.html 01:22:06 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 01:34:09 --- join: jace48 (~jace48@203.195.175.54) joined #osdev 01:47:05 ... 01:48:54 m00 01:49:12 * jace48 yawns 02:20:27 --- join: dax (you@u212-239-163-104.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 02:20:36 hmm 02:21:44 * jace48 is wondering whether dax is brother of daxy 02:21:49 no 02:21:52 i am daxy. 02:22:09 daxy just didn't timeout yet 02:22:31 :-) 02:22:34 hmm 02:22:36 Kidding 02:22:43 Got bored 02:23:51 oh well i think i'm going to restart coding a bit 02:24:23 And I am tired of doing it 02:24:31 Go ahead pal 02:24:40 Later join me once you go bored 02:25:21 hehe 02:25:57 Hey do you know some thing bout dos? 02:26:29 dax? 02:28:01 --- join: aard|out (~Aardappel@pD9E100B6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 02:28:31 --- nick: aard|out -> Aardappel 02:31:42 --- part: jace48 left #osdev 02:33:24 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f03.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 02:33:53 hiyall 02:36:43 --- join: Dolphin (~delphinus@61-217-205-252.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #osdev 02:38:22 --- join: [Mathis] (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f03.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 02:38:23 --- quit: Del|Home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:38:53 --- quit: daxy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:38:53 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:44:44 --- quit: [Mathis] ("connection reset by beer") 02:56:42 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:17:55 --- join: daxy (you@u212-239-163-104.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 03:18:19 hmm guys i need a windows prog to edit disk images... 03:18:22 any suggestions? 03:28:19 ... 03:29:31 help. 03:30:07 --- quit: Aardappel ("http://wouter.fov120.com/") 03:34:06 ... 03:34:10 anyone? 03:36:17 --- quit: dax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:39:50 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-441.duckdive.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 03:40:00 hi all 03:40:30 pavlovskii 03:40:38 i need a windows prog to edit disk images, any suggestions? 03:41:23 winimage seems to work -- www.winimage.com 03:41:26 it's not free though 03:41:36 doesn't really work that great 03:41:43 works for small images 03:41:49 but a 10mb hd image kills it 03:42:33 really? I've had 256MB images loaded successfully 03:44:07 it doesn't really survive it when i load a 10mb image... 03:45:00 and it hogs memory like there is no tomorrow 03:45:00 heh 03:45:04 70588kb 03:45:05 lol 03:45:14 correction -- 128MB 03:45:31 hmm, mine's only using 4MB 03:45:43 what OS are you on? 03:46:02 winxp 03:46:27 shouldn't matter anyway 03:46:37 which version of winimage are you using? 03:46:47 6.00.6000 03:46:53 hmm, so am I 03:47:03 and how do i format an image with it? 03:47:10 dunno how to fix it -- I only started using it the other day, and I haven't had any problems 03:49:45 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 04:00:55 can't get it working 04:03:15 --- quit: Dolphin () 04:03:22 --- join: Del|Home (~delphinus@61-217-205-252.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #osdev 04:10:54 hmm 04:11:03 anyone happens to have a working GRUB floppy disk? 04:15:06 ... 04:15:10 hello? 04:16:00 possibly 04:16:29 it's easy enough to make one 04:17:21 well 04:17:26 i can't get one working atm 04:17:29 don't ask me why 04:19:20 hang on, I'll see if one of these disks contains GRUB 04:19:31 no, that one's Menuet 04:21:40 ah, got it 04:21:50 daxy: do you want me to send you this disk image? 04:22:03 --- join: corsairk8 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 04:22:11 yea... 04:23:50 hmm.... Windows 2000 seems not to recognise a grub disk 04:24:31 can't make one myself 04:24:33 dunno why 04:25:11 just append stage2 to stage1 and write them to a disk, or to a disk image file 04:25:21 i.e. stage1 in the boot sector, and stage2 immediately following 04:25:32 I can't get the data off this one because Windows doesn't recognise the format 04:26:21 well yea... but i want one with a menu.lst thinggy ya know 04:27:21 ah... to do that, you have to create the image from within grub 04:27:32 it doesn't like being installed by anything but itself 04:27:44 hi 04:28:31 ya thats windows for ya pavlovskii ;) 04:28:31 pavlovskii i know 04:28:43 but setup doesn't work :/ 04:29:07 it depends how you're using it -- it works for at least one person (me) 04:29:47 ... 04:30:03 hi corsairk8 04:31:43 --- join: corsairk9 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 04:32:11 hi corsairk8, hi corsairk9 04:33:00 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:33:14 --- quit: daxy (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:33:14 --- quit: synth (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:33:14 --- quit: nbsp (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:33:14 --- quit: air (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:33:14 --- quit: witten (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:33:14 --- quit: nothing (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:33:49 --- join: daxy (you@u212-239-163-104.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 04:33:49 --- join: synth (~mike@12-222-196-139.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 04:33:49 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-7.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 04:33:49 --- join: air (brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 04:33:49 --- join: witten (~witten@adsl-gte-la-216-86-210-121.mminternet.com) joined #osdev 04:33:49 --- join: nothing (~nothing@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #osdev 04:34:06 ... 04:34:07 netsplit deluxe. 04:35:07 damn why doesn't this work 04:35:30 hmm 04:35:45 daxy: from your point of view, did I quit and re-join? 04:35:51 yes. 04:42:13 goddamn 04:42:17 i need a grub boot floppy 04:42:18 now. 04:45:04 do you have a stage1+stage2 (non-FAT) disk? 04:53:53 yes 04:55:29 so follow the directions in the GRUB manual, which I will repeat here ('cos they're not obvious, and it takes some trial and error) 04:55:49 get another floppy disk, and format it as FAT (or whatever file system you want to use) 04:59:25 well sir 04:59:30 that doesn't work sir. 04:59:41 formatting a FAT floppy? 05:00:48 no the installing of grub to that floppy 05:00:54 with setup 05:01:09 it just results in a floppy which boots & writes GRUB to the screen 05:01:23 if you use setup, grub looks for your files in some default locations 05:01:28 i know 05:01:30 and they are there 05:01:36 you mean, the resulting GRUB floppy works, but no menu.lst is used? 05:02:13 it doesn't seem to care if there is a menu.lst or not 05:02:34 when you use setup, grub hard-codes the path to menu.lst in the resulting image 05:02:42 i know 05:02:46 at setup time, it doesn't care whether there is a menu.lst there or not 05:02:57 so you've got to get the path right, and make sure the menu.lst is there 05:03:20 it's /boot/grub/menu.lst by default if i'm not mistaken 05:03:43 GRUB 05:03:46 and then nothing. 05:03:59 ok, so if A:\BOOT\GRUB\MENU.LST is there, and it's not working, then I don't know what the problem is 05:04:56 well it is there 05:05:14 i think the problem is grub can't embed the stage1.5 05:05:49 ah, so you're seeing the word "GRUB", but nothing else is happening 05:05:59 yes 05:06:16 hmm 05:06:57 lemme try using install... 05:11:21 got it working 05:11:37 --- nick: Zenton_work -> Zenton_eat 05:11:56 --- join: eks (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 05:23:09 --- quit: pavlovskii (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 05:23:22 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-606.duckdive.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 05:28:02 --- join: lynx (~lynx@p50808A1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 05:29:55 --- quit: eks ("brb") 05:30:48 --- join: eks (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 05:32:18 just been reading last night's logs: 05:32:23 19:08:24 *BSD uses the stack, Linux/Dos/Windows uses the registers 05:32:52 Windows uses the stack, although the int 2Eh interrupts expects one of the registers to point to the top of the stack, and another to specify the number of bytes 05:33:57 hmm 05:34:03 i wasnt aware windows did that 05:34:18 doesn't apply to Win9x of course 05:37:43 use stack/registers for what? 05:38:37 for parameter passing to system call functions 05:38:50 ah 05:39:46 hmm, I can't seem to apply styles via the CSS to HTML blockquote tags 05:40:04 hah! that's because the PhpWiki documentation is lying! 05:40:08 like a cheap watch! 05:40:31 heh 05:40:35 it's using
and not
05:40:41 that's really annoying 05:42:31 in fact, that's a contravention of HTML -- quotations aren't definitions, they're quotations 05:46:04 wtf 05:47:17 core sent me a blank email with subject = "So cool a flash, enjoy it" 05:47:43 and it has a .scr file attached but the name and contents are all garbage 05:48:17 * air thinks core has a virus and my name was in his outlook address book :) 05:49:35 huh? 05:49:43 core? 05:49:44 me? 05:49:49 i have a virus!?!! 05:49:50 oh no 05:49:52 shit 05:50:04 why do i use this shitty operating system why!!! 05:50:14 what was the exact email addrses air? 05:50:20 it's not the OS's fault, it's your mail reader 05:50:37 the OS doesn't know about "email" or "address books" 05:51:28 core != corsairk9 05:51:36 ah! phrew! 05:51:40 cool! my website had a hit from the .arpa domain! 05:51:43 i use hotmail :) 05:51:55 pavlovskii: hahah 05:52:09 I don't know any .arpa addresses 05:52:23 I want to find a .nato address -- they probably secret or something 05:52:32 durmn 05:52:35 i think it is time 05:52:38 muhahahah 05:52:41 HAR HAR HAR HAR 05:52:44 HAHAHAHAHA 05:52:46 hihi 05:52:56 this is weird 05:53:16 well 05:53:27 the email came from sinobnet.com, looks like a chinese ip 05:53:35 the commies! 05:53:37 --- quit: lynx ("[BX] Mr. Rogers uses BitchX. Won't you be my neighbor?") 06:08:39 --- join: lynx (~lynx@pD9544D0C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 06:08:47 hrm 06:17:01 * pavlovskii is trying to compile binutils for Mobius 06:17:19 hey pavibaby 06:17:32 --- nick: Zenton_eat -> Zenton_football 06:18:03 --- nick: Zenton_football -> Zenton__ 06:26:04 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:27:30 --- quit: daxy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:33:11 --- join: lynx_ (~lynx@pD9E638FC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 06:33:38 hey lynx 06:33:46 hey :) 06:41:55 hrm 06:42:18 pavlovskii : do you know SMP stuff? 06:44:44 --- quit: lynx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:49:59 lynx_: no 06:50:03 oki 06:50:11 I bought a dual CPU board and two CPUs with the intention of learning 06:50:15 but it needs repairing first 06:50:25 oki 06:50:31 pavlovskii : how is your os goin? 06:50:40 pretty good 06:50:52 I haven't written much code in the last few days 06:51:08 I've written some docs though (mobius.sourceforge.net) 06:51:21 hrm 06:51:23 :) 06:51:29 lemme see 06:53:01 pavlovskii : what is a kernel-heap? 06:53:16 the heap is where malloc gets it memory from 06:53:30 hrm 06:53:31 the kernel heap is where the kernel's malloc gets its memory from 06:53:41 ok 06:57:23 --- join: alphakiller (alphakille@200191029158-dial-user-UOL.acessonet.com.br) joined #osdev 06:58:55 why do people call a heap a heap? 06:59:12 i wasnt aware the heap data structure was used for its implementation 06:59:20 'cos it's not a stack? :) 06:59:28 huh? 06:59:32 i dont understand 06:59:37 in what way is it a heap and not a stack? 06:59:48 a heap indicates a balanced bottom-heavy tree 06:59:55 s/indicates/implies 07:00:11 I dunno 07:00:30 in my opinion, its usually more like a linked list 07:03:25 --- join: jace48 (~jace48@203.195.175.54) joined #osdev 07:12:15 --- nick: lynx_ -> lynx_smp 07:14:30 --- quit: nbsp ("bbl") 07:22:33 --- quit: pavlovskii (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 07:22:57 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-1022.abra.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 07:52:59 is anyone alive? :-) 07:53:49 no, there's been a horrible accident 07:54:09 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 07:54:47 May I ask a question? 07:55:06 a question of whom? 07:55:12 about an OS. 07:55:31 I'm alive, even if nobody else is 07:55:49 Ok. is it possible a network OS. 07:56:09 an OS that provides network access is possible 07:56:14 no. 07:56:42 on your computer, you can use ALL the resource on the network. 07:57:13 if you shutdown your machine, the jobs will be transfered to another running computer. 07:57:49 hmm, interesting 07:58:04 sounds like an OS where all processing is distributed 07:58:05 Clarify? 07:58:18 If you turn on one machine, the totall resource will be incresed. 07:58:29 are you familiar with Seti@Home? 07:58:54 but people will not understand how many computers behind the network. 07:59:00 no. 08:00:19 anway, it splits up the huge amount of data generated by the SETI project into small amounts, which get processed on millions of peoples' computers 08:00:34 when you switch on your computer, it starts processing data; when it's finished one packet, it sends it back to a server 08:00:40 anyway, your idea reminded me of that 08:00:43 Aha DCOM? 08:00:45 no.. 08:00:49 hrm 08:01:03 anyone feels like doing a kernel-project with me? 08:01:07 but even you installed the software of SETI, your computer still has 256MB ram right? 08:01:53 My idea is, if someone join, the TOTAL resource will be increased. 08:02:11 You'll see total memory in your system. 08:02:25 lynx_smp: I wonder if I can do two kernels at once :) 08:02:44 Del|Home: sounds like the Seti stuff, but taking it further 08:02:45 your program will be run on different computer. 08:03:10 pavlovskii : hrm 08:03:14 seti@home is based on same idea as to what you are planning up 08:03:20 for echo user, they just know they have a supercomputer (lots of ram and resources). 08:03:41 but presumably not all work could be distributed like that 08:03:50 e.g. what if you were typing a letter and shut down your computer? 08:03:54 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h237n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #osdev 08:03:58 pavlovskii : i just like to work on an os project , but from scratch , you know i wanted to do a l4 kernel in asm + smp 08:04:01 but hrm 08:04:06 putting it somewhere else wouldn't be much use unless somebody else was going to do the typing :) 08:04:14 i am not sure if i can manage this alone , anyways 08:04:25 lynx_smp I'm writing the server for l4. 08:05:05 brb 08:05:09 see you. 08:14:41 b 08:14:44 --- quit: alphakiller (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:20:09 --- nick: lynx_smp -> lynx_bathing_fun 08:47:55 --- join: flonze (Lee@AC8B75C8.ipt.aol.com) joined #osdev 08:54:40 --- part: pavlovskii left #osdev 08:57:12 --- nick: Zenton__ -> Zenton 09:03:51 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:13:12 --- nick: lynx_bathing_fun -> lynx 09:15:01 lynx! 09:15:04 :D 09:15:17 rob_ert xDD 09:15:22 supsup? 09:17:18 Debian rocks :D 09:27:27 not for long 09:28:39 --- join: alphakiller (alphakille@200191032137-dial-user-UOL.acessonet.com.br) joined #osdev 09:28:44 --- quit: corsairk9 () 09:28:55 --- part: jace48 left #osdev 09:35:26 --- join: corsairk8 (~CorsairK8@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 09:45:07 --- join: I440r (~mark4@1Cust55.tnt2.bloomington.in.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 09:45:13 --- nick: Del|Home -> Del|zZzZ 09:45:20 --- join: jace48 (~jace48@203.195.175.54) joined #osdev 09:45:59 --- quit: jace48 (Client Quit) 09:53:47 --- join: [Mathis] (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f31.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 09:54:11 <[Mathis]> hiyall 09:54:29 --- nick: [Mathis] -> Mathis 09:55:43 --- join: dax (you@u212-239-207-137.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 09:55:46 moo 09:56:30 hmm, seems that I have a small problem with a makefile rule 09:57:22 it exists but make doesnt seem to recognize it 09:59:23 ok, found... 10:02:26 --- quit: Del|zZzZ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:07:16 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@wilton.ee.ic.ac.uk) joined #osdev 10:07:28 hi all 10:07:57 hello 10:09:05 hmm 10:20:41 let it be known that alphakiller is a retard. 10:20:45 --- quit: pavlovskii () 10:23:04 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@wilton.ee.ic.ac.uk) joined #osdev 10:26:10 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 10:26:12 --- join: jace48 (~jace48@203.195.175.54) joined #osdev 10:27:18 You're going to kill it? 10:27:31 m00! 10:27:38 Hi :) 10:27:48 hello :) 10:28:29 --- quit: eks ("brb, going to try a reboot.. just in case it helps...") 10:28:36 who's going to kill what? 10:30:14 --- part: jace48 left #osdev 10:35:29 --- join: eks (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 10:35:35 Hey eks 10:35:59 In Debian, where should I put the commands that handle routing and initiazion of pppd? 10:42:50 hmm 10:42:58 finished gdt & idt code 10:43:08 dax: you started again? 10:45:30 well, better get back to work 10:45:32 --- part: pavlovskii left #osdev 10:45:59 yea i restarted... 10:51:07 hmm 10:58:53 bah 10:59:12 almost @ 1/10th of what it used to be (in terms of KB that is) 11:04:20 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?bsod.jpg <--- hehe 11:10:24 that ownz. 11:11:01 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?valfritt.jpg 11:11:01 hehe 11:11:28 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?airport.jpg 11:12:51 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?cat-powered.gif <-- that could be me ;-) 11:13:26 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?hundparning_forbjuden.gif 11:13:28 roflmao 11:14:42 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?nohumping.jpg 11:15:03 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?carlsberg.jpg 11:15:05 omg 11:15:07 roflmao 11:15:11 that's scary 11:15:31 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@wally.ee.ic.ac.uk) joined #osdev 11:15:52 wb pavlovskii 11:15:57 hi all :) 11:16:53 ah, do any of you remember me mentioning a couple of weeks ago that my college was surrounded by police? 11:17:08 nope 11:17:35 anyway, I did 11:17:55 I just found out why: a security guard in the physics department was knifed by some random guy 11:18:06 oh 11:18:23 we had something like that a couple of years (3 i believe) ago 11:18:33 a teacher stabbed 7 times by a student 11:18:35 hmm 11:18:47 wow 11:18:56 "This program needs Windows 2000 or better." - so I installed Linux ;-) 11:18:57 I assume you've heard of this German kid with the shotgun 11:19:00 yea 11:19:11 Mathis: why Linux? ;) 11:19:22 I read it somewhere 11:20:04 yes, but it doesn't make sense -- it should be "This program needs Windows 2000 or better." - so I installed BeOS, or VMS, or... 11:20:13 mmm vms 11:20:17 QNX 11:20:24 * dax is the qnx whore 11:20:33 I would have mentioned QNX but I haven't tried it 11:20:34 VMS on a x86 machine? 11:20:40 umm.... maybe... 11:20:57 pavlovskii, you ought to try it 11:21:10 yes, I should 11:21:21 i like reading those secksey neutrino docs :) 11:22:15 why is VMS so nice for you all? 11:22:44 it's what Unix should have been? 11:23:11 maybe 11:23:15 it's up to you 11:23:41 Unix has the appearance of been put together randomly, by programmers, for programmers 11:24:09 Unix is modular as far as possible 11:24:16 --- part: alphakiller left #osdev 11:24:21 every tool is a program 11:24:25 I may be a programmer myself (and not a bad one), but I don't expect to have to think 'programming' all the time I use my computer 11:24:37 Unix is supposed to be small, and simple 11:24:47 and do things 'adequately' 11:24:57 and it works like programmers think 11:25:12 which is a lot different to how users think 11:25:30 so how about VMS? 11:25:34 i think alot of 'programmers' would smack me for my naming convention :) 11:25:43 what's it like, dax? 11:25:47 apple-style 11:25:56 VMS was design for mainframe users 11:26:11 mixed-case 11:26:12 so who are mainframe users? 11:26:31 not necessarily programmers 11:26:39 DaxLikeThis? 11:26:50 and a var would be exampleVar 11:27:09 and sometimes i make call my constants: kWhatever 11:27:11 MyCodingStyle(is_like_this) 11:27:21 i'm an apple whore 11:27:23 yuck :) 11:27:24 MyClass my_class; 11:27:38 List string_list; 11:27:42 hehe 11:27:51 would be myClass here 11:27:51 List my_name__list; 11:27:52 hmm 11:28:05 PavlovskiiAgreesWith m_on_his_naming_convention; 11:28:23 PfxAlthoughILikeToPrefix 11:28:30 hehe 11:28:36 PfxCFunctionsThatBelongToOneGroup 11:28:37 I dont like shortcutted words 11:28:40 like Pfx 11:28:50 l 11:28:50 my function & constant names are always prefixed by the module name 11:28:53 PfxKindaLike(PFX_OBJECT_ORIENTATED, but_using_c) 11:28:58 like... GDTFillDescriptor and IDTFillGate 11:29:11 you need separate modules for your GDT and IDT? 11:29:15 hmm 11:29:23 man, that's way down in a corner of my i386.c 11:29:23 well... "modules" 11:29:39 i386SetDescriptor and i386SetDescriptorInt are my two 11:29:57 they're only used by the system startup code (although i386SetDescriptor is called for the FS segment on thread switches) 11:30:26 re VMS: try the guest account at telnet:vax6k.openecs.org 11:30:45 btw, it uses 'dir', 'type', 'cd', 'copy', ... 11:30:58 hmmm 11:31:01 I wonder where command.com got those from? :) 11:31:06 actually, CP/M 11:31:27 heh... my "hello, world" C program is still there 11:31:35 er. unix 11:31:49 I440r: ? 11:31:50 oh dir == cpm for sure 11:31:53 sorry hehe 11:32:02 did cpm use 'type 11:32:08 'type' ? 11:32:10 instead of cat ? 11:32:28 dunno; I think CP/M and VMS are on more-or-less the same level of the evolutionary tree 11:32:32 just on different branches 11:32:43 DCL, how I missed it... 11:32:46 my father ran a BBS on his kaypro2 hehe 11:32:48 using cpm 11:32:57 we have THREE kaypro II 's here 11:35:08 Digital DEC Station 200/3 here 11:35:16 if it was the right name 11:35:33 bbl 11:35:44 our company has 83*(roundabout 4) of it 11:35:54 --- nick: pavlovskii -> pavlovskii\away 11:36:01 --- nick: pavlovskii\away -> PAVLOVSKII 11:36:12 damn, I wanted a VMS-style nick, with a $ sign 11:36:22 --- nick: PAVLOVSKII -> pavlovskii 11:36:32 --- nick: pavlovskii -> pavlovskii\ 11:36:56 --- quit: pavlovskii\ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:36:59 so about 340 DECs 11:38:55 they are the MCCs of our machines 11:41:14 hmm 11:41:29 that reminds me i need a ppc/sparc/whatever to port daxos to :) 11:45:49 __asm__ __volatile__("ltr %0" : : "r" (KERNEL_TSS)); 11:45:52 why doesn't that work? 11:46:32 try %ax 11:46:45 I think tr is only 16 bits 11:47:49 k 11:59:44 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?samslaptop.jpg <-- hehe 12:03:59 photoshop! 12:07:02 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?stone.jpg 12:07:05 that ownz. 12:08:53 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?tankspridd.jpg 12:10:16 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?tattoopic.jpg 12:11:45 omg 12:12:39 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?titanic.jpg 12:13:36 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?today.gif <-- MIR 12:17:23 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?waterpark.jpg <--- nice 12:19:59 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?wires.jpg <-- looks like the back side of my computer... 12:20:35 hmm yea 12:20:38 same here :) 12:20:49 damn my ktss is crashing everything :/ 12:21:07 ktss? 12:21:13 kernel tss 12:21:16 system tss 12:21:22 whatever you want to call it 12:22:06 ah 12:22:26 http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/?wrongtime.jpg <--- wwwups 12:23:20 lol 12:23:42 your KERNEL_TSS must be a valid selector pointing to a valid TSS descriptor inside the GDT 12:24:02 i know 12:24:12 so is it? 12:24:39 well i'm prolly doing something stupid 12:25:24 yep really stupid 12:25:53 gdt[4]... trying to fit a null desc, kernel ds & cs, user ds & cs and tss into that... 12:26:15 tell me if you got it ;-) 12:26:41 fixed 12:26:52 --- join: nu11ify (nullify@pool-138-89-49-56.mad.east.verizon.net) joined #osdev 12:27:08 you got them all fit into gdt[4] and got it running? 12:28:45 I should really stop my project 12:29:23 I am too slow 12:29:44 no i enlarged my gdt a bit :) 12:30:42 needed about 2 years to get this state 12:30:52 and can't even run a program 12:31:32 also the device drivers dont have a good interface to the kernel and applications 12:32:02 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@willie.ee.ic.ac.uk) joined #osdev 12:32:28 hi all 12:32:44 hi 12:36:07 does anyone know where I can find info on how to implement kernel memory management? i need a simple kmalloc() or something so i can load ELF files... 12:36:36 kmalloc? really easy... 12:36:59 kmalloc is easy once you've got the main kernel memory management sorted out 12:37:11 that is, it's easy once you've got sbrk() or equivalent 12:37:19 o 12:37:34 lez assume, your kernel ends at bound 2MB-3MB 12:37:49 unsigned int kmalloc_ptr = 0x300000; 12:38:08 void *kmalloc(unsigned int size) { 12:38:26 unsigned int old_ptr = kmalloc_ptr; 12:38:32 kmalloc_ptr += size; 12:38:40 return (void *)old_ptr; 12:38:42 } 12:38:45 easy... 12:38:54 k, thx. 12:39:00 Mathis: that's the kernel sbrk() 12:39:03 ugh 12:39:16 ho hum 12:39:18 * nothing yawns 12:39:25 pav: I wrote that in my OS too 12:39:28 do a search for malloc and you'll probably find some good implementations 12:39:40 or, read Kernighan and Ritchie; they have one in there 12:39:48 or copy the one out of the DJGPP libc source 12:40:01 malloc/free are very standard routines 12:40:08 once you've got an sbrk(), that is 12:40:10 yeah 12:40:38 for a simple kmalloc the above is good enough 12:40:46 the problem is, i had no clue what sbrk() did until i encountered it trying to drop-in one of those implementations 12:40:54 Mathis: hmm... *very* simple... 12:41:00 heh 12:41:08 iz bug-free 12:41:36 --- join: gpf (~bgamari@h0020af25039b.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #osdev 12:42:07 I don't think it is bug free: what happens when you go past the end of malloc'able memory? 12:42:41 ultimately, you might end up off the end of physical memory and getting memory blocks full of 0xFFFFFFFF 12:43:25 pavlovskii, if your kernel needs that amount of memory, something is very wrong imo :) 12:43:38 right, but a good malloc would detect that 12:43:59 or what about this: for (;;) { ptr = kmalloc(1); kfree(ptr); } 12:44:29 --- quit: rob_ert ("Strawberry fields forever.") 12:44:37 omg 12:44:40 roflmao 12:44:43 that quit message 12:45:09 heh 12:45:45 I never said that my project is a good one 12:46:42 good point :) 12:46:58 my malloc is the GNU one 12:47:14 actualy a simplefied version 12:47:33 nu11ify: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~zorn/Malloc.html 12:47:39 oops 12:47:41 a whole list o' mallocs 12:47:52 i use that GNU one 12:47:55 oic 12:48:11 guys what do you think of a security mechanism patch 12:48:13 i am thinking about 12:48:15 for BSD 12:48:17 basically 12:48:23 I use the Mark Moraes one; it seems very sensitive to heap corruption (e.g. write over the end of a block and have the whole system crash later) 12:48:23 it audits syscalls 12:48:39 so programs can only run apps or what have you based on their functional description 12:48:42 like, 12:48:52 a finger daemon should NEVER run /bin/*sh 12:48:54 etc 12:49:05 in fact, execve would be off-limits to a finger daemon 12:49:06 that kind of thing 12:49:12 sound good to you guys? 12:49:24 for what is finger? 12:49:32 user info 12:49:36 just an example 12:49:37 to poke people 12:49:38 heh 12:51:21 why do you want to poke people? 12:51:25 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h237n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #osdev 12:51:29 bah you guys are no help 12:51:33 Mathis... dunno 12:51:35 or tickle them 12:51:37 or point 12:51:38 whatever 12:51:47 dax wants to do it to tickle old men on the bus ;( 12:52:23 hmm 12:52:26 not really 12:52:37 the only person i tickle 12:52:39 is my gf. 12:53:15 nothing is your gf? 12:53:22 not really 12:53:27 :( 12:54:52 nothing: good idea 12:55:33 pavlovskii, the tickle one? 12:55:35 :) 12:56:11 well, yes, the tickle one too 12:56:18 I was thinking of the security one though 12:57:02 ... 12:57:18 the .MOV file format, QuickTime player and this computer network are all gay 12:57:27 oh yes 12:57:29 i hate quicktime 12:57:36 apple is trying to shove it down everyone's throats 12:57:43 QuickTime has displayed a rectangular box on my screen, which I can't close, but which I can still move about 12:57:53 it doesn't fulfil any other purpose (except to annoy me) 12:58:00 at least it's not always-on-top 12:58:47 this network is so unreliable it might as well be running everything over UDP 12:59:14 you download a huge file (which finishes quickly) and it comes out corrupted 13:00:09 heh, this "gray box" is a masterpiece of UI design 13:00:15 you can't close it, or do anything useful with it 13:00:25 but if you try to move it off the screen, it helpfully snaps back on-screen 13:01:42 pav: this may be a banner 13:01:53 heh 13:01:58 companies could do their commercials into it 13:02:28 Mathis: if it is, it's not doing so very well :) 13:02:45 doesnt matter 13:02:50 it needs only to be visible 13:02:56 and to take space from your screen 13:03:14 hm... must be an advert for GreyBox Corp. 13:03:54 does it have its own button on the task bar? 13:04:13 yes: its icon is the Windows flag, and it has no caption 13:04:30 that's how I was finally able to move it off the screen: right-click, Move, press arrow key, move mouse 13:05:00 Ctrl+Alt+Del...Del...Del...Del...Del 13:05:18 that doesn't work, because Task Manager is disabled on these machines 13:05:29 the only way to exit a crashed application is to fully log off 13:05:40 then log off 13:05:53 if/when that doesn't work, you have to reboot; if you're lucky, the computer support group send you an email asking you not to reboot the machines 13:06:17 or simply press Reset 13:06:25 I will log off, after giving you this interesting yet pointless link: 13:06:32 http://www.winapi.co.kr/cpp/reference/reference.htm 13:07:10 woohoo! another grey box! 13:07:15 now I am logging off -- goodbye 13:07:18 --- part: pavlovskii left #osdev 13:08:43 --- quit: gpf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:09:07 nice... ocean noise 13:09:54 --- join: gpf (~bgamari@h0020af25039b.ne.client2.attbi.com) joined #osdev 13:10:40 --- part: nu11ify left #osdev 13:19:25 Yoshi DeHerrera of TechTV's The Screen Savers has put together a hybrid PC and game console system with the following systems installed: Atari 2600, Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Sony Playstation 2, and a custom PC. The systems are all crammed into an aluminum Lian-Li PC-76 case, with all the necessary ports, cartridge connectors and optical drives exposed for easy access. 13:19:28 woa 13:20:06 http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/supergeek/story/0,24330,3381725,00.html 13:25:32 --- quit: Mathis ("connection reset by beer") 13:42:58 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@wally.ee.ic.ac.uk) joined #osdev 13:43:10 hi 13:44:51 I'm bored... somebody tell me something more interesting than exam revision 13:49:56 --- join: daxy (you@u212-239-207-137.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 13:49:59 woot 13:50:17 woot 13:50:21 my rewrite of daxos is comming nicly 13:50:38 finished gdt, idt, irq & tss stuff 13:51:01 cool 13:51:18 still pretty far from what it was though 13:51:25 next up is the mm 13:51:38 after that, threads & ipc 13:51:42 ah, but now you're rewriting it with more experience, no? 13:51:49 yes 13:51:59 each time i rewrite it it goes faster 13:52:00 heh 13:52:05 a few rewrites are health 13:52:15 y 13:52:15 and i dumped C++ 13:52:37 beh, no real advantage imo, it just made things more complex 13:52:54 agreed 13:53:08 i still kinda keep it "object oriented" 13:53:15 just not using c++ 13:53:34 the kernel is only 3500 bytes atm 13:53:46 what format are you using? 13:53:52 elf32 13:54:20 the old daxos one was like uhm 16kb 13:54:59 but this time i'm going to try to get a decent mm working 13:56:35 the last one was like the worst code i ever wrote 13:57:03 by the friday evening i think i should have multithreading working again... maybe some ipc 13:57:17 what overall architecture are you targetting? 13:57:40 e.g. microkernel etc. 13:57:59 microkernel 13:58:25 nothing really spectacular 13:59:13 pavlovskii, what was the url for your os? 13:59:29 the most regularly-updated one is http://mobius.sourceforge.net/ 14:01:06 --- quit: dax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:02:14 hmm, it's 10pm 14:02:24 I think I'll leave college for today -- see you later... 14:02:25 --- part: pavlovskii left #osdev 14:31:47 --- join: Aardappel (~Aardappel@pD9E100B6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 14:40:51 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-1050.alakazam.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 14:40:59 hello again 14:41:23 Hi 14:42:08 I'm going to write a cool OpenGL program where you can drive a tank 14:48:52 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:50:32 A WikiWikiWeb is a site where everyone can collaborate on the content. The most well-known and widely used Wiki is the Portland Pattern Repository at http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?WikiWikiWeb. 14:50:40 pavlovskii: arent you worried someone will come and abuse this? 14:50:47 pavlovskii: put lots of bad words, or crap in it 14:50:52 pavlovskii: or erase documentation? 14:51:00 yes, I did wonder about that 14:51:07 i remember one myself 14:51:11 that's why I'm not committing to it straight away 14:51:16 the first time i did it i was surprised I could change content 14:51:29 i accedentally erased it all to find that out though :( 14:51:38 but surely other people run wikis that don't get vandalised? 14:51:39 --- quit: daxy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:51:48 donno 14:51:48 i guess 14:51:58 seems silly to not even ask for account registration 14:52:25 and there I ought to be able to put authentication on the EditPage link 15:05:50 --- nick: lynx -> xenium_ 15:12:53 --- join: Del|zZzZ (~delphinus@61-217-200-40.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #osdev 15:15:07 --- nick: Del|zZzZ -> Delphinus 15:17:19 --- quit: pavlovskii (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 15:17:32 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-525.ballistic.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 15:18:47 --- nick: Zenton -> Zenton__dinner 15:24:15 yeh pavlovskii 15:25:09 yeh - hey 15:25:21 * corsairk8 agrees with the authentication 15:28:54 crap -- I probably need to edit the PhpWiki source 15:31:02 lol 15:31:24 hmm, looks like the administrator can lock individual pages 15:31:45 there was some talk in the Wiki for PhpWiki itself about "wouldn't it be cool if only the page owner could edit it" 15:42:00 HATE PHP! 15:42:26 actually, it's just the fault of whoever wrote PhpWiki 15:42:45 they put the RCS IDs in HTML comment tags outside of the PHP code blocks 15:43:05 PHP allows you to modify the HTTP headers returned (e.g. if you want to authenticate users), but only if no output has been sent 15:43:32 now the (redundant) comments are getting sent before the authentication page gets included 15:43:40 still, at least you can't edit pages now 15:43:42 but neither can I 15:44:30 why are they so keen on making the RCS IDs available in the *HTML* anyway? 15:44:49 config.php even includes a rcsid() function which emits an ID surrounded by tags! 15:46:20 lol 15:46:23 unfortionate 15:46:28 there is some buffering you can do to avoid that 15:46:34 cant remember though, ask in #php ;) 15:46:45 hmm, I think I read about it 15:47:06 for now I've just moved the RCS IDs by one line, so that they're in /* */ comments inside the block 15:47:47 hmm... are HTML tags really necessary? 15:49:24 woohoo! authentication! 15:49:30 someone try modifying my pages 15:50:00 lol 15:50:30 --- quit: corsairk8 ("- [ Quitting Server - Reason : None - Priority : High ] -") 16:02:57 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 16:06:44 --- join: ink_ (~ink@user-vcauu3j.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #osdev 16:06:46 --- quit: xenium_ ("User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's") 16:06:57 --- quit: ink_ (Client Quit) 16:43:31 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:59:01 --- quit: rob_ert ("Strawberry fields forever.") 17:19:59 --- quit: pavlovskii (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 17:20:15 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-427.ballistic.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 17:45:06 --- quit: Delphinus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:53:07 --- quit: Aardappel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:55:35 eks: where did you get the copy of QNX you've been using? 18:00:06 he warezed it 18:00:45 nah, prolly the QNX RTP download I found :) 18:00:54 you found one? :) 18:00:56 where? :) 18:01:03 you have to fill in a form; then they will let you download QNX + Photon + goodies 18:01:20 at this minimalistic URL: http://get.qnx.com/ 18:01:35 * pavlovskii is booting the 1.40MB demo 18:01:54 wow, qnx really has changed since i last tried it in 1997 18:02:34 pavlovskii: http://get.qnx.com 18:03:00 eks: thanks, got it :) 18:03:03 ~450MB iso 18:03:06 I'll fill out that form later 18:03:15 hmm, I might order a CD if I'm serious 18:03:18 heh 18:03:18 just go to http://qnx.tucows.com/ 18:03:21 on form to fill ;) 18:03:28 * nothing pats his cable modem 18:03:29 on->no 18:03:30 crap, I really need to upgrade the VGA card in this test PC 18:03:50 it's an old Diamond Stealth card (S3 Trio64 1MB) and it only supports VESA 1.2 18:03:55 ah well, here goes... 18:04:40 heh... it found my internal ISA modem 18:05:29 heh 18:05:37 damn, eks is still on the dark side 18:07:01 nothing: ;) 18:07:29 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 18:07:39 that's very cool 18:07:51 it did work in SVGA mode after all (I got it to 800x600x8 at least) 18:08:11 pavlovskii: the 6.1 rtp iso comes with better drivers than the 1.44mb floppy 18:08:15 ok time to burn demodisk and boot on the test machine :) 18:08:17 I may have to get the full version -- although I'm not too keen on installing it on my main PC 18:08:31 win2000>qnx for sure, bah 18:08:33 ;) 18:08:34 pavlovskii: I got it on my main pc :P 18:08:41 I've broken my main PC too many times playing with things like this 18:08:47 nothing: lol, they do not serve the same purpose 18:08:52 eks: as a desktop machine 18:08:58 which you are attempting to use qnx as 18:09:07 nothing: and it works well for me :P 18:09:13 haha 18:09:35 heh... the QNX demo disk is compatible enough with FAT for Windows not to reject it, but the filenames come out as gibberish 18:09:38 * eks uses qnx more as a workstation than as a desktop 18:09:51 cool! 19.5GB free on my floppy disk! 18:09:59 lol 18:11:18 workstation==desktop 18:11:43 nothing: I suppose nowadays that's true 18:12:22 bah, in my day, a workstation was made by Silicon Graphics and came with a 28" monitor and a mouse with 17 buttons 18:12:31 nothing: not in my mind, when gcc is fired more often than MS Word, it's a workstation, not a desktop ;) 18:12:43 uh huh 18:12:55 pavlovskii: riiight 18:13:02 28" monitor, 17 buttons ;) 18:13:10 maybe it just seemed like that 18:13:17 * eks does have a real workstation :)) AlphaStation 200 from DEC 18:13:22 remember I was a kid then, so things seemed bigger than they do today 18:13:34 * pavlovskii wants a VMS box 18:13:53 anyway, do you know the Win9x ring 0 exploit? 18:14:24 vms is nothing special ;( 18:14:30 pavlovskii: what is it? 18:14:45 pavlovskii: where did you see this sgi workstation when you were a kid? 18:14:46 it's a way to trap into ring 0 rather too easily 18:15:15 nothing: umm, I don't think it was 100% real -- the only SGI workstations I've seen have been at the University of York computing department lab 18:15:29 anyway, I was wondering if anyone knew any similar techniques for NT 18:16:03 this kiddie on one of the newsgroups reckons Microsoft didn't bother rewriting the Win95 kernel for NT, so you can use ring 0 exploits anywhere 18:16:59 doubtful 18:17:03 NT is far more secure than 9x 18:17:23 for the curious, the Win95 exploit relies on the fact that the IDT isn't protected, and that SIDT isn't a privileged instruction 18:18:00 such programs get the physical address of the IDT and the bottom 4MB virtual->physical identity map to modify the divide by zero handler 18:18:13 they set this to a ring 0 interrupt gate which points to their own code 18:18:35 the only technique I've found for NT involves installing your own driver, which seems a bit obvious 18:18:48 and it requires a privilege to be enabled first 18:19:06 --- quit: flonze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:19:31 I'm not trying to crack any NT boxen; I just wanted to confirm that a bunch of script kiddies didn't know something I don't 18:20:05 --- join: flonze (~Lee@ACA0A4DE.ipt.aol.com) joined #osdev 18:26:54 hah 18:27:00 * nothing just got back from running qnx on his test machine 18:27:06 pitiful ;( 18:27:12 they could at least have some originality 18:27:26 and not attempt to basically ripoff the microsoft gui 18:27:33 heh :) 18:27:43 and linux was more responsive than qnx on that p166 18:27:44 I think the full version is a bit more innovative 18:27:56 i could see visible slowdown with a vector demo and some browsers running 18:28:03 probably the inefficient microkernel design of qnx 18:29:11 gueten nacht, alle 18:29:35 --- part: pavlovskii left #osdev 20:57:10 --- join: jace48 (~jace48@203.195.175.54) joined #osdev 21:07:45 --- quit: eks ("Zzzzz") 21:09:00 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-7.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 21:11:57 --- quit: jace48 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:14:35 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:10:31 haha 22:11:00 some llama that posts at forums.abovetopsecret.com is using one of the images from my site in his signature 22:11:14 he has 90 different posts using it 22:11:57 anyone have some gay porn i could use to change the image with? 22:12:06 --- join: jace48 (~jace48@203.195.175.54) joined #osdev 22:12:15 nothing!! get me some of yer gay porn 22:18:15 lol 22:18:24 u got any? 22:19:13 hell no 22:19:16 :) 22:19:22 i know nothing does 22:19:48 could u go find some for me 22:19:49 ? 22:30:11 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 22:30:15 --- quit: I440r ("time to either sleep or code. not sure which") 22:30:39 http://forums.abovetopsecret.com/viewthread.php?tid=1473 22:34:08 --- quit: jace48 ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 23:04:03 --- join: jace48 (~jace48@203.195.175.54) joined #osdev 23:12:38 --- join: geist (~geist@dsl-64-34-186-57.telocity.com) joined #osdev 23:12:44 favor to ask: 23:12:52 can you guys run 'gcc -print-libgcc-file-name'? 23:13:00 does it give you a valid path to libgcc.a? 23:13:09 if not, what version of gcc do you have and what platform? 23:16:50 hmm 23:22:54 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:41:09 --- join: banned-it (~banned-it@64-210-45-48.roc.frontiernet.net) joined #osdev 23:50:31 --- quit: zooy0rk ("BitchX-1.0c16 -- just do it.") 23:55:04 --- nick: Zenton__dinner -> Zenton 23:58:29 you guys are especially quiet today 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/02.04.27