00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/02.06.26 00:15:16 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by queer") 00:36:59 --- quit: tetryl ("Leaving") 00:49:54 --- join: corsairk8 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 00:53:43 --- join: kaze (~Kaze_0mx@nas-cbv-10-62-147-123-60.dial.proxad.net) joined #osdev 01:01:18 --- quit: kaze ("Leaving") 01:08:16 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 01:17:45 --- quit: kemu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:25:06 --- quit: corsairk8 (Connection timed out) 01:27:26 --- quit: nbsp () 01:28:58 --- quit: gab ("leaving") 01:32:17 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 01:33:45 --- join: corsairk8 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 02:08:21 --- join: vx`schlumpf_2 (~schlumpf@pD9E61838.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 02:08:48 --- join: eirikn (eirik@ipv6.eirikn.net) joined #osdev 02:23:49 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (Connection timed out) 02:27:32 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:37:03 --- join: ByrdKernel (BlahCubed@dslstat-ppp-37.fastq.com) joined #osdev 02:37:30 iya. 02:37:35 er...Hiya even. 02:38:52 Um...hello? 02:39:46 hello 02:39:53 Ahhh...somebody does exist after all. :) 02:40:19 i am the channel bot, i do not exist 02:40:47 Interesting. 02:41:04 And just how long have you been the channel bot? :) 02:41:19 since i was created 02:41:27 Ahhh...I see. And when was that? 02:41:30 * gab would say about 2 minutes ;> 02:41:35 I figured. :) 02:41:35 :P 02:41:38 that information has been purged 02:41:38 hehehe 02:41:38 hi btw :) 02:41:41 yop oink 02:41:42 hiya 02:42:00 So what's going on tonight? 02:42:06 tonight ? uh ? 02:42:14 (Okay, so it's night-time here.) 02:42:17 It's 11:41am here, in UTC+2. 02:42:18 :P 02:42:20 we are all getting ready to sleep 02:42:31 It's 2:45am here, in UTC-7. :) 02:42:43 ByrdKernel: were uat? 02:42:46 Sleep? Bah...sleep is for the weak. :) 02:42:52 where u at 02:42:56 I'm in Arizona (USA), where all the fun forest fires are. 02:43:03 ah 02:43:06 im right above u 02:43:13 Except I'm in the southern part of the state, where it's all desert. :) WHere you at, Air? 02:43:31 03:42 im right above u 02:43:36 Utah? 02:43:53 ya, i think thats how its spelled 02:43:59 Cool. 02:44:26 I take it, oink, that you're in Europe somewhere? :) 02:44:26 --- quit: vx`schlumpf_2 (Remote closed the connection) 02:44:34 nah 02:44:37 try again :) 02:44:54 Um...that only leaves Middle East or Africa...hmmm... 02:44:58 I think. 02:44:59 Negative. 02:45:07 Unless there's some part of Asia...well...hmmm... 02:45:11 oink lives in oinkland 02:45:11 naw 02:45:16 yup :P 02:45:18 You sound military. Good guess? :) 02:45:20 with da pigs 02:45:23 the land where all the oinks oink oinking 02:45:23 guess where it is :) 02:45:25 hah 02:46:06 Hmmm...well, I dunno. I don't have a map of time zones in the Eastern Hemisphere handy. :) 02:46:24 well uhm 02:46:39 You tried, USA, Europe, Africa, Asia.. 02:46:42 How bout you, gab? You having lunch, or getting ready for bed? :) 02:46:53 erm 02:46:55 Couldn't be Australia? 02:47:02 gha 02:47:05 nearly lunch-time here 02:47:11 Ahhh...I see. :) 02:47:18 Australia is a country, not a continent. 02:47:24 Both, actually. :) 02:47:29 never 02:47:32 hehehe 02:47:43 K...I give up. 02:47:50 BAH :P 02:48:19 I'm living outside earth :\ 02:48:22 UTC=GMT, right? 02:48:26 * ByrdKernel sighs. 02:48:27 :) 02:48:40 I live right next to oink 02:48:45 afaik, yes, sometimes. 02:48:49 my skin is green 02:48:55 hah 02:48:57 Ahhh...I see, Rico. DOesn't the small bug you? :) heheh j/k 02:49:01 mMMmm... The Byrds... 02:49:07 rob! ert! robart! 02:49:09 er..smell 02:49:10 :D 02:49:12 Hey oink 02:49:13 http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 02:49:13 hiya robert 02:49:17 a must read 02:49:21 hah 02:49:23 :P 02:49:26 --- quit: Rico (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:50:09 K...so what's the point? I'm getting a non-answer because somehow I"m being non-specific? 02:50:13 --- join: Rico (Rico@node-c-1c6a.a2000.nl) joined #osdev 02:50:16 (Although it is a very good article) 02:50:18 air: you should mirror, and topic it. :) 02:50:51 bbl 02:50:55 k...cya 02:50:56 ByrdKernel: France, Europe. 02:50:57 same as gab 02:51:00 in windows save mode, I'm not able to start new processes from mirc :S 02:51:00 Ahhh...I see. :) 02:51:07 urls aren't clickable :( 02:51:17 hah 02:51:18 That sucks. :( 02:51:24 * oink remembers Windows 95 02:51:31 Mine's fine. :) (Win2K) 02:51:35 no TCP stack on safe mode. :P 02:51:39 mine isn't winxp 02:51:50 Mine won't ever be WinXP. 02:51:54 i got ya all beat, LINUX!! 02:51:58 wine is infected 02:52:02 air: NAH!@?#! 02:52:02 *mine 02:52:08 bah. 02:52:12 Bah...more stable in some ways, less in others. 02:52:28 Nothing wrong with it...just not my flavor. :) 02:52:33 * oink goz bak too wok. 02:52:35 bbl 02:52:41 cya 02:52:51 * Rico humps oink 02:52:59 love y00! 02:53:01 * ByrdKernel raises an eyebrow. 02:53:06 Fascinating. 02:54:01 Crap...gotta go. bbl 02:54:04 CYA :) 02:54:11 --- quit: ByrdKernel ("Leaving") 03:08:15 --- join: jukka (jukka@baana-62-165-187-192.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 03:21:51 anyone know of a really slow laggy irc network? 03:21:58 ETG. 03:22:15 air, ircd on own computert 03:22:26 why? 03:22:41 jukka: he said 'slaggy'. 03:22:44 euh 03:22:47 laggy :))) 03:22:47 ethernet has an ircd on a 9600bps connection 03:23:05 but he isnt here 03:23:30 where do you need one+ 03:23:30 ? 03:23:38 i need to test cria 03:23:48 why laggy then? 03:23:51 hah 03:23:57 irc on cellphone ? :P 03:23:59 ircd* 03:24:13 or .. a real 9600bps modem ? 03:24:14 it was unresponsive and crashed on ethernet's server so i fixed it to work on slow networks 03:24:21 :)) 03:25:03 kunphuzil also said it crashed on his box and i think it was his 56k 03:25:44 --- join: tenzin (xtofu@p216-tnt2.mel.ihug.com.au) joined #osdev 03:25:46 how the hell can this crash have something to do with latence or speed ? 03:25:58 --- quit: zinten (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:26:06 wb mister tenzin the australian from melbourne. 03:26:36 :) 03:27:44 everyone says that select will return with partial packets 03:28:30 cria blocked until it received the EOL in the packet so the client would lockup until each packet was completely received 03:29:02 not sure why it was crashing 03:30:50 gah, sf is down 03:32:07 --- join: iota (~iota@m32-mp1.cvx2-b.ltn.dial.ntli.net) joined #osdev 03:32:11 Hi. 03:32:24 hi 03:32:29 terve iota and tenzin 03:33:17 whats been going on?? 03:33:43 hmm.. i think it's called "night" 03:34:01 LOL it day now 03:34:19 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 03:34:26 yes NOW it is 03:34:31 but what's been going on you said 03:34:35 it's been night 03:34:38 agh 03:34:48 ok 03:35:16 i getting realy fustrated with my 2 projects i am doing 03:37:31 --- part: iota left #osdev 03:43:16 --- quit: eirikn (Remote closed the connection) 04:03:59 --- nick: ZzZ_enton -> Zenton 04:04:12 hi all 04:05:34 hu 04:05:42 hey you 04:11:23 hi jukka 04:11:35 whops 04:11:37 --- nick: jukka -> mur 04:11:43 :) 04:12:36 --- quit: tenzin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:18:56 air: 04:19:24 isn't jordan.opn .au ? (yes i know it's spice's) 04:22:48 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:22:54 --- quit: gab (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04:27:34 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 04:32:41 mur: eh? 04:32:52 you know spice, don you? 04:32:54 dont 04:33:02 not personally 04:33:07 he's opns .au servers 04:33:12 i know 04:33:19 .au will be disconnected this sunday 04:33:30 he is really gonna delink? 04:33:55 yap 04:33:58 04:34:34 --- join: eox (~marcus@pD95248C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:34:43 well, jordan.openprojects.net disappears on Sunday I'm not providing a fund raising platform for lilo Why Sunday? simple as that because thats when the oftc folk have a meeting and we link in theres a test server running already 04:34:55 hi 04:35:01 hayhay eox 04:35:37 but dont gossip anyways, i dont want to be blamed :P 04:35:45 even i think it's no secret really 04:35:54 hmm 04:36:28 you can ask him #oftc irc.oftc.net 04:54:50 oftc? 04:57:41 --- join: lodda (lodda@p508FCD34.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:57:45 hi 04:58:09 hallole 04:58:19 got german test back 04:58:30 D+ (4+) :((( 04:58:42 i forgot to make one exercise 04:58:45 hehe 04:58:51 i didn't see it 05:01:29 ha! 05:01:54 get new glasses ;) 05:01:56 what? 05:02:25 i have glasses, but i don't "wear" them 05:02:35 cause they're ugly 05:04:09 have to go to saxophone-lesson 05:04:17 --- nick: lodda -> lodda_away 05:09:15 --- join: lynx (~lynx@p50809B21.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 05:15:02 heyhey lynx 05:15:17 hey :) 05:25:58 --- join: slime (~slime@h77n2fls32o858.telia.com) joined #osdev 05:27:47 Hej 05:33:17 i'll try with jphoot then apparently 05:33:18 :P 05:37:35 --- quit: Rico (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:39:35 CAN'T YOU SEE IT'S MISERY AND TORTURE FOR ME? 05:39:46 what is= 05:39:46 ? 05:40:00 the bug in my gdb server. 05:41:04 --- nick: corsairk8 -> corsairk8|out 05:43:48 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 05:44:34 --- quit: eox (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:57:54 * mur is away: rest + j2sdk 06:02:46 --- join: eirikn (eirik@ipv6.eirikn.net) joined #osdev 06:14:21 --- nick: Zenton -> Zenton___ 06:21:19 --- quit: corsairk8|out (Connection timed out) 06:24:05 --- join: Stalky (~cms@ool-4352b4ce.dyn.optonline.net) joined #osdev 06:25:35 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:32:02 --- join: tirloni (gpt@neutron.tirloni.org) joined #osdev 06:36:20 --- quit: Stalky ("http://www.echosproject.org") 06:44:23 --- quit: ctkrohn|away ("Client Exiting") 06:52:29 --- join: mur (jukka@baana-62-165-187-192.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 06:55:48 --- join: corsairk8|out (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 06:56:13 --- nick: corsairk8|out -> corsairk8 07:05:21 back 07:05:28 --- nick: lodda_away -> lodda 07:11:09 -have to buy some things 07:11:14 --- nick: lodda -> lodda_away 07:13:06 http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:YJ4vUgWZXAcC:www2.uiowa.edu/~jrj014/stories/deaf.html+gang+hands+deaf+signs&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 07:13:07 HAHA 07:17:27 :| 07:18:43 reciprocity 07:18:52 --- nick: EtherNet\AFK -> EtherNet 07:24:32 oink hello man! 07:29:48 --- nick: EtherNet -> EtherNet\AFK 07:30:34 --- join: eks (~eks@24.70.176.227) joined #osdev 07:30:42 hey folks 07:31:00 hey girls 07:35:57 hey lynx, you there? 07:40:40 hi. 07:41:21 --- join: berk (~berk@kraft30.skbkontur.ru) joined #osdev 07:41:50 berkberkberk 07:41:59 bark bark bark 07:42:39 --- nick: lodda_away -> lodda 07:42:51 back 07:43:10 * corsairk8 pokes lynx 07:44:16 i walked 10km (6 with 5 kg, 4 with 3kg) 07:46:59 wtf means deaf? 07:48:56 --- join: ctkrohn (~ctkrohn@ip68-100-176-44.nv.nv.cox.net) joined #osdev 07:48:56 humb plub 07:54:09 hey, lodda, could i ask you what you think of my laser/missile tower? 07:54:28 lodda lodda 07:54:52 --- join: miro (miro@miro.staff.opn) joined #osdev 07:55:40 rmoooomrooro 07:55:42 hmm..corsairk: what laser/missile tower? 07:55:43 hulo babe 07:55:53 the one here http://forgotten.sourceforge.net/bdi2.jpg 07:56:13 its my first time modelling turrets, so im not sure how its done 07:56:44 i was thinking of using circular laser poles, that sorta pull back when a laser is fired, ala total annihilation 07:56:56 hullo babe 07:57:07 looks like binoculars ;) 07:57:12 hehe 07:57:16 binoculars? 07:57:22 hahah 07:57:26 on a platform 07:57:26 a binocular tower ;) 07:57:46 uses sunbeams to shoot 07:58:01 is blinding 07:58:02 hehehe 07:58:13 --- nick: EtherNet\AFK -> EtherNet 07:58:23 great, i must suck so much at modelling 07:58:34 what should i do to make it better? 07:58:41 --- part: EtherNet left #osdev 07:58:48 i dont mind how the missiles or lasers look 07:58:51 ill fix them up later 07:58:53 hmm..i wanted to model, too 07:59:00 really? 07:59:18 yes but i gave up :) 07:59:19 have you seen the rest of the work i posted? 07:59:20 hehe 07:59:26 http://forgotten.sf.net/demo.png 07:59:35 http://forgotten.sf.net/demo2.png 07:59:36 i mean 07:59:39 i'll look 07:59:42 http://forgotten.sf.net/demo3.png 07:59:44 thats the one 07:59:59 its the last one! 08:00:05 dont look at the other two, they look horrible ! :) 08:01:08 im not too bad at modelling 08:01:13 its just that im inexperianced with texturing and stuff 08:01:17 and getting it "just right" 08:02:03 but thats 6 units which are half-done out of the 200 or so i need to do ;) 08:02:54 --- quit: berk ("Âûøåë èç XChat") 08:03:11 to be honist, i dont mind how bad they look 08:03:14 yes u aren't bad, but may be u should make the first one u showed a bigger in the wide 08:03:19 for now, i wanna get them all cranked out, so i can put them in the game 08:03:42 the first what lodda? 08:03:59 --- join: berk (~berk@kraft30.skbkontur.ru) joined #osdev 08:04:00 you mean the turret? 08:04:09 the binoculars ;) 08:04:16 corsairk8: What are you making? An RTS game? 08:04:25 yup ctkrohn 08:04:29 http://forgotten.sf.net ctkrohn 08:04:38 cool 08:05:00 i mean the thing between the turret and the weapon-base 08:05:09 a quality 2d rts game with environment sound effects, real-time lighting, an immersive story, over 200 unique units (http://forgotten.sf.net/entities.txt), 3d particle engine and 3d flight/projectile system 08:05:20 as well as scripting and multiplayer support ;) 08:05:24 ah the pole... 08:05:33 nice 08:05:37 i think it looks better thin lodda 08:05:40 though I'm more a fan of turn-based 08:05:43 indeed 08:05:50 im gonna make this game revolutionary 08:05:56 much better than any turn-based game 08:06:23 nah, you can't beat Alpha Centauri :P 08:06:28 its gonna be a "non-stop action-packed never-ending futuristic fight" 08:06:37 hehehe, this game will be alpha centauri ;) 08:06:39 trust... 08:06:40 cool 08:06:42 beat* 08:06:50 tell me when you're done :) 08:06:57 hehe, its gonna be a while 08:07:02 but you can expect a new demo to come out soon 08:07:06 cool 08:07:12 the existing demo is at http://forgotten.sf.net/misc/fd.zip 08:07:13 What OS is this for? 08:07:15 although its quite old/outdated 08:07:20 * ctkrohn hopes crossplatform SDL 08:07:29 works with a wide variety of OS's, including Win95/98/ME/Xp/2k 08:07:33 yup, done in SDL 08:07:35 oh wow! 08:07:35 and zlib 08:07:40 08:07:44 im hoping it can port to my os, omikron in time! 08:07:50 So no linux? 08:07:55 whats linux? 08:07:58 hah 08:07:59 right. 08:08:03 oh right that... 08:08:06 --- join: SLACKo (~SLACKo@62.114.145.217) joined #osdev 08:08:13 i suppose 08:08:26 yes there will be linux binaries 08:08:30 and source packages 08:08:41 the game is built 100% portably 08:08:51 on a nearby planet. This was very far away <-- that sounds bad, rephrase it! 08:08:54 but ive got to fix a few problems in the makefiles 08:09:07 berk: the site is OLD... all of the story info is outdated 08:09:13 dont beleive anything written there berk 08:09:23 im supposed to be giving the site a revamp 08:09:37 but not yet 08:09:53 http://osdev.mega.net.kg/ <<< could anybody tell me why this link doesn't work/there is a link to parent-directory 08:09:54 okay then 08:15:48 where is lynx? 08:16:52 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s150.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 08:21:01 --- nick: berk -> madfire 08:22:59 --- nick: lodda -> lodda_away 08:24:15 eatng laters 08:28:50 --- join: EtherNet\AFK (~Under@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 08:30:05 hrm 08:30:18 what os shall i install on my dual celeron? 08:30:36 lynx BeOS :P 08:33:25 (solaris ?) 08:33:31 l00nix 08:33:56 DOS (?) 08:34:03 doesn't do SMP 08:34:12 lynx: (FreeBSD ?) 08:34:20 hi folks 08:34:29 hi eks 08:34:31 :) 08:34:40 lynx Linux, {Free|Open|Net}BSD, BeOS, AtheOS, Solaris x86, QNX... 08:34:47 I'll come back 08:34:47 hrm 08:34:51 LynxOS ? ;> 08:34:55 --- part: EtherNet\AFK left #osdev 08:35:14 gabos 08:35:17 nop 08:35:23 LynxOS is a real OS 08:35:28 commercial Realtime unix 08:35:43 bah. :P 08:35:49 btw 08:35:53 check openbsd.org :PPP 08:36:02 oink: Bah :P 08:36:11 rob_ert: :)))))) 08:36:20 * rob_ert got that from #unix.se :) 08:36:26 hah 08:36:28 :P 08:37:36 anyone good at shellscripts? 08:37:56 say that I have a list of words, "foo bar a b c foo" 08:37:58 oink is. 08:38:03 uh ? 08:38:04 never 08:38:05 :P 08:38:08 how do I get each word unique ? 08:38:13 bah 08:38:19 cookin: there's something with bash to split it 08:38:23 what you mean unique? 08:38:23 hm 08:38:27 hah 08:38:30 sort -u ? :P 08:38:34 uniq ? 08:38:37 oink: openbsd doesn't support SMP #@!@!# 08:38:44 gab: do I care ? 08:38:47 :) 08:38:48 madfire: remove duplicates 08:38:51 I told you to check the page 08:38:53 they have a new slogan :P 08:39:00 OpenBSD is so insecure... 08:39:01 :( 08:39:11 cookin: sort -u 08:39:11 or 08:39:14 uniq 08:39:16 A remote security hole... shame on them. 08:39:21 "We are Dorks and We Are Good At It" 08:39:21 sort and uniq operate on lines, not words 08:39:25 Soon they're down at the Win95 level :))) 08:39:27 * oink suggest sort -u, better :) 08:39:38 heh 08:39:51 cookin: split to lines, sort then merge back =) 08:39:52 anyway 08:39:53 knasos is more secure than openbsd. 08:40:05 Not with my extentions! 08:40:23 With my KnasOS forth, it's possible to create security holes! 08:40:59 new concept 08:41:09 hah 08:41:10 the PIM: Pluggable Insecurity Module 08:41:14 :PP 08:41:42 beis = boring 08:41:45 freebsd installed 08:42:50 Mmm 08:42:58 I think I'm going to try FreeBSD. 08:43:00 oink: :DDD 08:44:19 --- quit: eirikn (Remote closed the connection) 08:44:25 anything other? 08:44:36 maybe ... 08:44:38 unixware? 08:44:56 * mur is back 08:45:06 lynx: uhu. never :) 08:45:16 ok 08:45:26 qnx = sucky 08:45:28 hrm 08:45:42 seriously, FreeBSD or Linux on a biproc :P 08:45:45 how is gentto linux ? 08:45:56 oink : i must admit that beos uses it most 08:46:15 Gentoo ? 08:46:20 somes says it's uhm.. nice :) 08:46:22 I'll go to the lake... 08:46:24 bbl 08:46:35 oink: I'll check FreeBSD later :)) 08:46:48 netbsd? 08:46:51 kay 08:46:51 openbsd? 08:46:53 bah 08:46:54 hm 08:47:09 * oink still suggest FreeBSD :P 08:47:22 I have a NetBSD running fine here though. 08:47:28 hrm 08:47:29 hm 08:47:32 yeah 08:47:34 boing 08:47:37 and browser 08:47:43 oink : does netbsd use ports , too ? 08:47:45 and robber 08:47:46 * lynx forgot 08:47:49 and bark bark 08:48:03 lynx: yup 08:48:38 ok 08:48:44 so .. gentoo or netbsd ? 08:48:49 FreeBSD :P 08:48:54 i wanna learn something new 08:48:55 so 08:48:55 hrm 08:48:58 "new" 08:49:09 IRIX is the best os (tm) anyway... 08:49:12 browser lynx how are ou? 08:49:40 good :) 08:49:43 but tired 08:49:46 what about you? 08:49:47 hrm 08:49:49 ok 08:49:51 lemme think 08:49:55 *thinking* 08:49:59 i'm okay 08:50:00 i guess 08:50:02 just ate 08:50:04 thank you ;) 08:50:23 agh irccing > 4 am is no good 08:50:24 :( 08:51:06 hrm 08:51:07 heh 08:51:10 addicts suck ;) 08:51:17 * lynx goes to buy some crack 08:51:39 * lynx likes the gentoo linux smilethingface 08:51:42 on the other hand 08:51:47 i have no working burner 08:51:49 haha 08:52:00 so i have to rely on my netbsd non-bootables cds 08:54:17 lynx: i was sleeping 08:54:25 but coudlnt' sleep so i came online write one emaila 08:54:29 and ircd 2 hours then 08:54:31 * file peeks in from his coding session 08:55:22 irccing realtime 3 channels is quite leet 08:56:04 * mur goes install java 2 08:56:19 mur: got some new (OLD) good mods? 08:56:28 * file deletes java 2 09:05:04 --- nick: ctkrohn -> ctkrohn|away 09:07:52 --- nick: lodda_away -> lodda 09:18:23 i dropped my camcorder, but it works still (had luck - schwein gehabt) 09:19:41 --- nick: lynx -> lynx_away 09:20:36 --- quit: oink (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:20:48 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp79575.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 09:20:51 lodda:what model? 09:22:06 --- quit: madfire ("Âûøåë èç XChat") 09:22:41 a sharp VL-ME10 09:23:03 --- quit: tirloni ("bbl") 09:23:48 i'll look tv :) 09:23:57 watch tv 09:24:07 --- nick: lodda -> lodda_away 09:31:31 --- join: Prakku (~helloprak@196.12.57.75) joined #osdev 09:31:58 --- quit: witten_ ("bye") 09:32:53 --- quit: Prakku () 09:34:44 * mur doesn't have to open tv, it's _open_ already :) 09:34:46 ;) 09:34:46 jk 09:34:48 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@pD9E61838.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:51:08 hey lynx_away, gone again ay? 09:56:11 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.78) joined #osdev 09:59:50 i'd like to write a memory-manager 10:07:07 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:08:40 --- join: corsairk9 (~localhost@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 10:09:02 --- nick: corsairk9 -> corsairk8 10:09:04 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:13:04 why corsairk9? 10:13:44 i'd like corsairk0 10:14:04 corsairk10 10:14:08 hehe 10:15:29 how would "corsairk" sound ? :P 10:16:20 aweful 10:17:04 hehe 10:17:07 go again 10:17:24 i meant me 10:30:20 --- join: Aardappel (~Aardappel@217.7.138.114) joined #osdev 10:32:26 --- quit: mur ("mur murr") 10:35:10 --- join: jukka (jukka@baana-62-165-187-192.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 10:37:36 --- join: eirikn (eirik@ipv6.eirikn.net) joined #osdev 10:57:37 --- join: Zn4k (zinac@cs243169-153.jam.rr.com) joined #osdev 10:57:40 --- part: Zn4k left #osdev 10:59:35 i'll make homework 11:00:30 --- nick: lodda_away -> lodda 11:00:35 --- nick: lodda -> lodda_away 11:01:29 --- nick: lodda_away -> lodda_homework 11:03:20 test 11:05:44 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:08:21 --- nick: Kurt -> Whore 11:09:52 rob_ert 11:09:57 lynx_away: !!! 11:10:03 are you tyhere babe? 11:10:33 --- nick: Whore -> Kurt 11:12:25 hi jukka 11:12:31 hey 11:12:33 --- nick: jukka -> mur 11:12:36 agh 11:12:39 long time no see :) 11:12:40 lynx_away: !!! 11:12:43 hah 11:12:47 yea 11:13:00 you still interested in helping fd mur? 11:13:10 no time sorry 11:13:16 ok 11:13:19 i'll leave in <2 weeks 11:13:26 for (half)year 11:13:33 have so much else to do 11:15:10 back 11:15:13 huhu 11:15:29 mur: what? 11:17:34 hm 11:18:06 --- join: DRF (~daniel@host213-121-70-193.surfport24.v21.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:20:06 lodda_homework: Hey :) 11:21:38 --- quit: lodda_homework ("testing something") 11:22:23 --- nick: geist-band -> geist 11:23:25 Hi geist :) 11:23:43 --- join: gedamo (gdm@gedamo.demon.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:25:28 --- join: lodda_homework (lodda@p508FCD34.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 11:26:44 back 11:26:59 i must make homework 11:27:41 --- nick: ctkrohn|away -> ctkrohn 11:35:19 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 11:35:39 --- join: kaze (~Kaze_0mx@nas-cbv-10-62-147-122-205.dial.proxad.net) joined #osdev 11:39:18 --- join: DorkPunk (l33t3sth4x@209-63-67-144.academicplanet.com) joined #osdev 11:39:22 Hello. 11:39:33 hi 11:40:13 What are you working on, gedamo? 11:40:19 --- nick: Kurt -> KDEWhore 11:40:46 Not a whole lot. I'm finding it difficult to concentrate 11:41:29 In theory I'm trying to get my Forth interpreter/compiler done 11:41:30 Me too. :-\ 11:41:38 Why are you having difficulty concentrating? 11:41:56 I'm suffering from mild depression 11:42:02 --- quit: miro (Remote closed the connection) 11:42:44 * DorkPunk nods. 11:42:50 the medication isn't helping much 11:42:56 gedamo - I'm very sorry... Would you like to talk about it? 11:43:26 It's ok you don't have to play psychiatrist :) 11:43:46 gedamo - Heh, I just thought that I might be able to help... 11:43:53 gedamo - I am suffering from depression too... 11:43:56 --- join: miro (miro@miro.staff.opn) joined #osdev 11:44:01 gedamo - Plus, you have helped me a lot... 11:44:45 My symptoms are apathy and problems with concentration & memory 11:44:55 It's not really a mood thing 11:45:19 I just can't seem to motivate myself to do anything 11:45:20 I have exactly the same thing.... 11:46:15 Are you receiving treatment? 11:46:32 No. I do not have health insurance, and treatment is expensive. 11:46:52 Hooray for the National Health Service! 11:47:08 National Health Service? 11:47:27 In the UK we don't have to pay for medical treatment 11:47:42 That is great... 11:47:46 I am in the USA. 11:47:55 sigh, US health care 11:47:59 Not so good 11:48:16 Yeah. US health care and education is the worst out of all of the 1st world countries. 11:48:36 But it would be nice if someday I could afford everything and not need insurance. 11:49:02 I originally started my OS project because I decided I needed a project to work on 11:49:22 This was before I realised I had depression 11:49:26 Yes, same here! 11:49:36 uhhh 11:49:43 --- nick: lynx_away -> lynx 11:49:44 I thought that if I could be passionate about something... That would help me... 11:50:00 It might motivate me. 11:50:01 It was only when I had difficulty focussing on it, that I realised I had a real problem 11:50:57 I suspect I've suffered from it for years, but didn't know what it was 11:51:02 --- quit: DorkPunk () 11:51:45 --- quit: corsairk8 () 11:51:48 --- join: DorkPunk (l33t3sth4x@209-63-67-144.academicplanet.com) joined #osdev 11:51:57 * DorkPunk is back. 11:52:10 :) 11:52:17 Sorry... 11:52:20 I accidentally closed mIRC. 11:52:30 I thought I was boring you :) 11:52:42 No no... 11:52:56 It seems that my problems are similar to yours... 11:53:22 I am having a hard time moving on from the past. 11:53:23 hehe 11:53:57 * DorkPunk changes topic to: Welcome to #osdev, your home for psychological help. 11:54:13 hgpm 11:54:15 It's probably more common than generally thought 11:54:20 i think i awaynow 11:54:32 * mur is away: booooring 11:54:36 --- nick: KDEWhore -> Kurt 11:55:31 I had a lot of problems with my parents... And it still hurts me... 11:55:49 I am in danger of failing out of my university. 11:56:28 I have no real reason to be depressed 11:56:31 wow, this is pretty heavy stuff 11:56:37 --- quit: Javanx ("I don't feel a thing, and i stopped remembering. The days are just like moments tourned to hours") 11:57:07 geist: You can't say you don't learn anything here 11:57:56 will linux work on a 6x86 with 120 mhz, 1.2 GB with openOFFICE? 11:58:16 or how many ram do i need? 11:58:28 lodda_homework - Linux will surely work.. But I don't know about OpenOffice. I have never used OpenOffice before. 11:58:45 lodda_homework - I would recommend 64 MB RAM minimum. Of course, for better performance, 128. 11:59:17 my mother needs a programm to read the word documents 11:59:41 the computer works with windows 95 at the moment 11:59:44 hehe 11:59:49 lodda_homework - Why not dual boot? 11:59:57 1.2GB? 12:00:16 lodda_homework - Yes, but maybe you could buy a 1 GB hard drive for not much money... 12:00:34 OpenOffice would probably be horribly slow. 12:00:36 Or maybe 2 or 4 GB... 12:00:47 ctkrohn - Yes. 12:00:58 hmm..i think there have to be dual-boot because the burner is an external variante 12:00:59 If I were you, I'd have her run Abiword... it has MS-Word import filters, but they aren't that good. 12:01:32 hmm..it have to work with WordXP 12:02:35 hmm..maybe if i buy a 10 GB harddisk and have 128 mb-ram? i could swap than 1000mb and would have enough space for dual-boot 12:02:54 then 12:03:15 --- quit: kaze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:03:41 i mean it should be not very fast but it should be fast enough to work with open-office 12:04:12 i can't buy a new proccesor because this platform is not even a pentium 12:04:42 i have to study the handbook of this computer 12:05:05 by the way i could buy some ram for my computer... 12:05:13 * lodda_homework thinks loud 12:05:38 maybe i push it to one gigabyte 12:06:07 two 512mb sd-ram sticks 12:06:34 my frand give me teh LUNIX and now i have teh bnc and shel axess, now i can hack the mirc !! kekekek 12:07:11 i'm on mirc at the moment 12:07:26 cause my linux doesn't work with music 12:07:58 hi all 12:08:13 hi 12:08:20 puh 90 euros are the price for one stick 512mb sd-ram 12:08:26 hi file 12:08:31 g'day 12:08:40 * file is excited, his new hardrive is installed, partitioned, and formatted 12:08:53 how big? 12:09:23 it's not very new, but it's better than my 811mb hardrive 12:09:33 I partitioned it to 1.99gb and 1.84gb 12:10:05 I'm on mIRC too because I only have a Winmodem. 12:10:10 But I do my osdev in Linux. 12:10:23 i could buy a 303 euro computer with 1Ghz and 128 mb-ram, 40GB HD 12:11:14 same here but with sound my internet-connection works 12:11:19 Mmmmm.... 12:11:35 robert:? 12:12:01 --- join: kupak (~vacsda@195.228.89.33) joined #osdev 12:12:04 hi 12:12:08 hi 12:12:36 --- join: Prakku (~helloprak@196.12.57.75) joined #osdev 12:12:51 --- part: Prakku left #osdev 12:13:02 by the way the 303 euro computer has onboard VGA 12:13:09 mmm 12:13:41 file, robert: what? 12:14:05 mmm 12:14:09 I'm thinking whether to test this drive or not 12:15:23 gedamo: don't u think there are enough ms?(not microsoft) 12:15:45 I just said 'mmm' 'cause everybody else was :) 12:16:23 hehe 12:16:52 have to make homework!!!! rob_ert? 12:16:52 lodda: what homework you doing? 12:19:31 yeah MMM too 12:19:33 Mmm... 12:19:34 * DorkPunk licks his lips. 12:20:46 Is pthread implementation a kernel issue? 12:21:33 --- quit: DorkPunk () 12:23:00 --- join: DorkPunk (l33t3sth4x@209-63-67-144.academicplanet.com) joined #osdev 12:23:11 I can't think straight. I keep accidentally closing mIRC. 12:23:38 well, you might be able to fix that by using a real IRC client, like Xchat :) 12:24:20 i managed to disable ctrl-alt-del on win2k from my program ! :) 12:24:20 Or a real OS, unlike Windows 95. 12:25:29 I hate GPF. 12:25:30 DorkPunk: have you tried getting you Winmodem to work under linux? 12:26:13 gedamo - Yes, I cannot. It is a weird Toshiba Winmodem that they made specially for laptops. Zero Linux support. I have searched with Google many times. LoL 12:26:14 Every two days. 12:26:52 --- nick: Zenton___ -> Zenton 12:26:55 shame 12:28:17 * file twitches 12:28:31 GEE 12:28:40 * lynx goes to install freebsd 4.2 :P 12:29:03 (: 12:29:08 :) 12:29:16 I'm thinking about doing that, too. 12:29:18 :)(: 12:29:18 robxkqu0|' ! 12:29:30 :D 12:29:54 well 12:30:09 i am just instlaling it because i have no other bootable cd here 12:30:09 except qnx and beos 12:30:09 heh 12:30:16 netbsd would be more interesting though 12:30:19 --- join: I440r (~mark4@1Cust87.tnt2.bloomington.in.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 12:30:22 hrm 12:31:26 --- quit: eirikn (Remote closed the connection) 12:33:10 :)(: could be also that :(): 12:33:17 --- join: andydude (~andyrobb@dsl-64-130-166-225.telocity.com) joined #osdev 12:33:19 * DorkPunk listens to the thunder and pets his UPS, also known as his laptop's battery. 12:33:25 hi 12:33:29 heh 12:33:32 how are you ppl? 12:33:34 hulo dude 12:33:58 i feel bad 12:34:06 * lynx goes to do network install 12:34:08 i stubed my toe on the couch 12:34:41 lol 12:34:42 and i email functions.wolfram.com yesterday with a list of typo's on their site 12:34:48 gedamo: correction of my german-test, already ready 12:34:51 last night 12:35:15 * gedamo nods 12:35:33 --- nick: andydude -> adu 12:35:49 hrm 12:35:53 hrm? 12:36:01 *thinkering* 12:36:07 oh 12:36:35 one of my comments i was very proud of... i found a mutual dependancy between 3 of the most fundamental functions... 12:36:42 latest freebsd is 4.6-RELEASE ? 12:37:33 muhahaha 12:37:35 power() was defined in terms of n! and n! is defined in terms of gamma(), and gamma() was defined using exponents, aka the power() function 12:37:38 installing :) 12:37:51 56KiB/s :))) 12:38:01 instlling bin 12:38:04 * lynx loves freebsd 12:38:09 why? 12:38:13 --- quit: kupak () 12:38:18 what why? 12:38:20 I hate unexplained reboots. 12:38:23 what what? 12:38:26 With a passion that defies description. 12:38:29 lol 12:38:36 why do u love freeBSD? 12:39:00 cuz it is superior over most other opensource *ixes 12:39:09 isn't that interesting tho? mutual dependancy of 3 functions, i think i like that concept... but its so ugly 12:40:03 hmm..i don't like the install and didn't got X working :/ 12:40:13 ... 12:40:23 the install is cool 12:40:30 you can install it via ftp/nfs and stuff 12:40:33 quite fancy 12:41:04 :) 12:41:06 Indeed. 12:41:11 --- nick: lodda_homework -> lodda 12:41:19 so, you need basically just two discettes to install freebsd completely :) 12:41:26 and the ports system is cool, too 12:41:38 and you can easily strip the kernel down 12:41:41 i have to u install beside Windoze and linux 12:41:54 have u T-DSL? 12:41:56 ja 12:42:23 und kriegst du das so einfach mit DSL undnetzwerk installation hin? 12:42:30 klar 12:42:43 ich habe nen p100 als file/NFS server und router 12:42:45 =) 12:42:58 achso ich hab nur eeinen computer 12:43:02 har 12:43:14 danke 12:43:15 --- quit: DRF (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:43:24 das nehm ich persönlich 12:43:31 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by rear") 12:43:46 dafür P4 mit 1.8 Ghz ätsch 12:44:02 nun 12:44:08 was? 12:44:10 Does anyone here know of a good task switching HOWTO on the web? 12:44:11 ich komme mit meiner prozessorleistung aus 12:44:24 und ich habe dafuer ne original sgi workstation .. muhahah ... 12:44:24 was hast du denn für einen? 12:44:34 die hat mal 25000$ gekostet :P 12:44:38 uah 12:44:41 dual celeron 12:44:47 und wieviel jetzt? 12:44:51 3$ 12:45:00 uhh 12:45:02 500e 12:45:10 wie gross ist die? 12:45:25 wie ein sehr grosses desktop gehäuse 12:45:29 schau bei ebay nach 12:45:35 "indigo2 impact" 12:45:54 ich hab mir überlegt nen dual VIA C3 zu basteln 12:46:23 dual systeme bringen nur was auf guten systemen 12:46:26 also 12:46:28 os-wise 12:46:41 beos ist da ziemlich ueberlegen 12:46:41 was ist da für nen OS drauf(sgi)? 12:46:45 IRIX 12:46:50 muhahah ... 12:46:55 hehe 12:47:05 tja 12:47:11 muhahah hört sich scheisse an 12:47:14 beos zeiten waren cool 12:47:20 bwahaha besser? 12:47:28 nein 12:47:39 pff. heathen. 12:47:48 nein ich unt blasergessanichinstein! 12:47:55 ach 12:48:13 --- quit: ava (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:48:15 halt sprechen deutsch oder ich gehe franzoze sprechen 12:48:22 hehe 12:48:39 (urgl... my german language courses are really too far behind) 12:48:50 * lynx will skin or impale lodda 12:48:54 --- join: ava (~d@chcgil2-ar6-4-47-169-191.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #osdev 12:48:58 Ich bin den Meister! 12:49:09 Nennt mich Meister Rob_ert! 12:49:13 verboten! 12:49:17 gab : parle francais, si tu veux 12:49:25 ich bin ein bin liner 12:49:28 geist : too much "wolfenstein" ? 12:49:35 Berliner 12:49:36 yeah 12:49:37 rob_ert: der meister 12:49:40 :) 12:50:03 :) 12:50:05 geist : how is this HipTop going? 12:50:21 let's buy a cray 12:50:34 lynx: well that was just to see if I could still utter some sentence in german ;> 12:50:46 heh 12:51:09 lynx: it's coming. still working on it 12:51:09 hrm 12:51:16 got one right here, actually got about 4 12:51:20 uhhh 12:51:25 I've not very much left from german at highschool 12:51:30 any way to get it cheaper from your """"sources"""" ? 12:51:39 Are Cray still owned by SGI? 12:51:47 gedamo : not anymore 12:51:57 I want to own Cray. 12:51:57 gedamo : but sgi has all their patents, still 12:51:58 not really, since you need a SIM card from the carrier for which I can't tell you what it is but you can figure out 12:52:12 gsm sim-card ? 12:52:14 yes 12:52:17 hrm 12:52:25 neat. 12:52:40 if you have a SIM card you can stick it in and use it, but you need a gprs equipped one 12:52:43 geist : what are the specs of the device ? 12:52:45 DorkPunk: Yeah, but what would you do with it? 12:52:52 lodda : hab keine gui , hier 12:52:52 if you want to use the data part of it 12:52:52 lynx: is it that one? 12:53:02 lynx: like cpu, memory, etc? 12:53:12 geist : ya and os 12:53:34 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033787975 < gedamo - Um, sell it? 12:53:44 lodda : ich top das nicht ab 12:53:51 geist : hrm... 12:54:02 geist : what parts of the project are you doing ? 12:54:07 DorkPunk: :) 12:54:09 --- join: oink_ (~ziga@void.phear.org) joined #osdev 12:54:20 lynx: ARM7 at 24Mhz (normally, can run from 0-66), 16MB ram, 4MB flash 12:54:26 gprs radio 12:54:29 DorkPunk: Somebody once offered me a PDP11 but I had nowhere to put it 12:54:31 gedamo - Sell it, get a lot of money, then marry a beautiful girl. :-) 12:54:35 geist : neat :)) 12:54:37 1600 mAh battery 12:54:37 --- nick: oink_ -> oink 12:54:42 uhh 12:54:45 gedamo - What is a PDP11? 12:54:47 geist : why so much ? 12:54:52 huh? 12:54:56 geist : for XXX hours uptime ? 12:55:06 right, so it'll last 48 hours or so 12:55:06 1600 mAh is quite much 12:55:17 DorkPunk: old DEC computer 12:55:19 hrm 12:55:32 geist : and the os ? 12:55:35 not really 12:55:38 DorkPunk: and if you ask me who DEC is, I'm going to give you a slap 12:55:42 we made the os 12:55:55 gedamo - I am using a DEC keyboard right now. LoL 12:56:00 :) 12:56:10 The DEC keyboard has a phone jack. 12:56:11 geist : so it is not intend to be compatible to existing plattforms ? 12:56:26 YAY 12:56:31 * lynx installed freebsd 12:56:57 --- quit: lodda (Excess Flood) 12:57:08 DorkPunk: VT100 terminal keyboards used a connector that looked like a phone jack, it could be one of those 12:57:24 --- join: lodda (lodda@p508FCD34.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 12:57:38 --- nick: Zenton -> Zenton_dinner 12:57:59 * oink cries. 12:58:06 my voodoo is fucked. 12:58:25 :(( 12:58:30 oink : v3 ? 12:58:43 gedamo : i thin mac used that too, as atari did 12:58:53 yup 12:58:54 v3 :( 12:58:59 everything looks greenish 12:59:07 ?!?! 12:59:23 overheat maybe 12:59:27 i get "A signal 11 was caught - i am saving and ...." 12:59:30 void.phear.org/osdev.png 12:59:31 WTF is signal 11 ? 12:59:31 oink: check your monitor cable is in right 12:59:37 gedamo: it is. 12:59:53 tell me if colors sucks :P 13:00:05 I can't run X11 ... 13:00:12 my X11 server* 13:00:13 argh 13:00:16 so it has nothing to do with cables 13:00:22 it's my v3 :( 13:00:23 oink : what is the errormsg ? 13:00:30 lynx: no error msg :| 13:00:40 sys fux0rz up? 13:00:49 just.. blinking on boot, and .. greenish then 13:00:55 oink : put another gfx adaptor in and wait ... maybe selfrepair will turn on 13:00:59 bah 13:01:00 I tried 13:01:02 well 13:01:04 hrm 13:01:07 anyway 13:01:20 i can send you an isa board 13:01:27 friday I'll go to a computer store, ask what can be wrong (they'll test with their card) .. 13:01:31 and 13:01:33 I'll maybe buy a GF4 13:01:37 nah :) 13:01:37 thanks 13:01:38 bah 13:01:45 all the new boards are evil 13:01:48 i hate them 13:01:48 bah 13:01:51 they must die 13:01:53 AHHH 13:01:55 my v3 has .. more than 1 yo :P 13:01:57 my system reboots ?!?!?! 13:02:10 gar 13:02:14 my celeron fucked? 13:02:19 maybe it can have something to do with my v3's bios ? 13:02:20 hah 13:02:26 but 3Dfx has bankrupted!#@ 13:02:40 hrm 13:02:48 * lynx doesnt want to buy another computer 13:02:53 AHH 13:02:55 GEEE 13:03:04 oink: that'll be the reason; they've gone out of business, so their products stop working 13:04:06 * lynx thinking 13:08:22 i'll watch TV. visions of escaflowne 13:09:00 I like anime! 13:09:56 * lodda likes it, too 13:10:02 away 13:10:10 --- nick: lodda -> lodda_away 13:12:23 well 13:12:40 the real visions of excaflowne anime ... the movie is much better ... the series is cheap :/ 13:13:16 gotta go 13:13:18 bye all 13:13:22 --- quit: gedamo ("Leaving") 13:15:33 lynx: it isn't cheap, how should i get the movie? 13:15:34 --- join: Rico (Rico@node-c-1c6a.a2000.nl) joined #osdev 13:15:36 wh00t 13:15:44 I'm virus free again :) 13:22:08 lynx: sorry I went away for a bit 13:22:30 no pardon ;) 13:22:40 * lynx goes to watch some ugly TV 13:22:43 bye 13:22:50 cya geist 13:24:12 later 13:29:43 star trek: nemesis trailer will be released tonight 13:32:15 --- quit: DorkPunk () 13:39:42 lynx: allen gegen wan 13:40:04 another star trek? damn 13:40:53 hnnmmmmmm 13:41:13 lodda_away : van 13:42:54 --- quit: I440r ("bbl") 13:43:14 lynx 13:43:20 ugly tv? 13:43:45 aha 13:51:37 --- nick: Zenton_dinner -> Zenton 13:51:47 --- join: Zn4k2 (zinac@cs243169-153.jam.rr.com) joined #osdev 13:52:08 --- part: Zn4k2 left #osdev 13:55:46 was this the last episode of escaflowne?!?! 13:55:51 --- nick: lodda_away -> lodda 13:56:11 wie schreibt man hitome? 13:59:10 hitomi, afaik 13:59:17 der film ist um klassen besser :/ 13:59:57 hmm 14:01:04 bei ebay.de is nen apple power pc mit 200mhz, 768mb ram 2*4.1gb scsi, fast ethernet for 21.50 euro 14:01:18 ich hab nen 118cm fernseher :) 14:02:21 tja 14:02:29 ich hab nen 118cm penis ... 14:03:01 hehe 14:03:04 sicherlich 14:03:29 hehehe 14:03:30 :D 14:03:37 willst du mich begatten. 14:03:40 the only german I know. 14:03:42 :\ 14:04:03 boing!! 14:04:14 oink: hehe 14:04:17 agh 14:04:25 mur: bist du deutsch? 14:04:35 nein 14:04:40 no i'm not drunekn 14:04:44 drunken 14:05:00 void.phear.org/test.png 14:05:07 tell me if colors are fucked or not 14:05:30 look pretty phucked to me 14:05:36 thanks 14:05:38 well 14:05:56 this is what I get from my v3 :( 14:06:05 v3+ 14:06:05 ? 14:06:08 Voodoo 3 14:06:22 no vvv.i cant spell.kom? 14:06:30 uh ? 14:06:54 no i cant write to teachers at this time of nite not even email :P 14:07:00 you can see the date and time there :P 14:07:06 i'll postbone for tomorrow 14:07:20 good night 14:07:32 --- quit: lodda ("have to go to bed") 14:10:45 --- join: air2 (~brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 14:11:56 --- quit: air2 (Client Quit) 14:23:06 what is the best way to kill my connection to the irc server? 14:24:59 quit button 14:25:27 no 14:25:42 i tried turning off the cable modem for 5 minutes 14:25:43 --- join: Zn4k2 (zinac@cs243169-153.jam.rr.com) joined #osdev 14:25:52 oh 14:25:58 opn donest kill 14:25:59 i connected to my own irc server and then killed the server 14:26:14 i want the client to disconnect 14:26:19 --- part: Zn4k2 left #osdev 14:26:34 how long does it take for a network socket to timeout? 14:27:21 in opn? 14:27:25 was it 3 years? 14:27:26 :P 14:27:30 i dunno 14:28:35 air: I finally figured out how to get the stack set up. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :) 14:29:19 air: send RST packets :PPPPPPPP 14:29:27 oops, kbd repeat too fast. 14:30:03 --- nick: ctkrohn -> ctkrohn|away 14:31:10 gah 14:32:05 grr 14:32:13 all my floppies are fucked 14:32:30 and i need to flash my v3 bios :( 14:32:40 i just firewalled 6667 but im still here 14:33:11 send rst packets... 14:34:17 get 'tcpkill' from the dsniff package 14:38:25 woah 14:38:27 duude 14:38:35 dude ? 14:38:37 i better get going -- its almost now! 14:39:04 hrmpf 14:39:10 compiling X11 + all shite 14:40:09 i'm teaching one of my friends about x11 14:40:09 --- quit: oink ("boo!") 14:40:25 he wants to experiment with linux 14:40:43 hahaha, just like i wanted to experiment with smoking, now i'm addicted ;) 14:42:31 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 14:43:02 gee 14:43:02 WTF? 14:44:14 hm 14:48:37 woah 14:48:38 cool 14:48:49 close windows, lynx 14:48:55 it will get warmer by then 14:48:59 lol 14:49:16 i have to install x11 via 7Kib/s ftp connection :/ 14:50:29 :P 14:50:31 i HATE bugs 14:50:42 s/H// 14:50:48 tasty... 14:51:47 hehe 14:51:49 :) 14:51:50 this damn bug should not exist 14:52:15 air: again in windows? 14:52:17 --- quit: SLACKo (Remote closed the connection) 14:54:00 --- join: SLACKo (~foot@62.114.145.217) joined #osdev 14:54:51 hye 14:54:56 what was QDB url? 14:55:37 --- quit: miro (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:55:37 --- quit: SLACKo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:56:38 bye 14:56:42 cya 14:56:43 bye bye 14:56:47 --- quit: adu () 14:57:34 dumdidum 14:57:48 lynx: 14:57:52 what is QDB url :P 14:57:52 ? 14:57:52 ja? 14:58:00 QDB ? 14:58:07 that quote database 14:58:10 irc comment påage 15:00:22 --- join: oink (~ziga@void.phear.org) joined #osdev 15:00:38 didn't work :| 15:03:39 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s89.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 15:11:13 damnit 15:11:22 :( 15:11:32 I'll by a GeForce4. 15:11:36 buy* 15:13:46 x = 0; 15:13:46 if(some_error){ 15:13:46 printf("error); 15:13:46 if(reconnect){ printf("reconnect"); do_this(); } 15:13:46 else x = -1; 15:13:47 } 15:13:49 printf("%d", x); 15:14:09 if that only displays "error" what should the last line display? 15:18:36 ok 5 mins 15:19:22 ? 15:19:34 'line' ? 15:19:39 I don't see any \n 15:20:04 because it prints all the tiem ;) 15:20:07 sexmex 15:20:11 yay 15:20:27 lynx: isn't ale@* xeniums girl? 15:20:29 SSEEXX 15:20:29 :) 15:20:31 oops 15:20:40 mur : ja 15:20:47 mur : am i permit to talk to her? 15:20:59 oink : disgusting. 15:21:07 she asked you 15:21:18 even you weren't on channel 15:21:19 :P 15:21:23 Murr murr... 15:21:36 mur: How did it go with that girl? :) 15:21:37 rob_ert: 15:21:42 which one? 15:21:56 rob_ert: look at window 1. 15:23:01 window 1! !? 15:23:18 Hehe. 15:23:23 irssi window 1 :) 15:23:27 DCC chat ;) 15:23:31 hm 15:23:34 mur: Bah. 15:23:39 so you have conspiracy against me and lynx? 15:23:46 lynx babe, we are stronger 15:23:49 mur: Heidi, or whatever it was... her you talked about 24/7 before. 15:23:52 i'll ask miro to back up 15:23:57 mur: How did you know?! :P 15:25:46 look: 15:26:05 --- join: miro (miro@miro.staff.opn) joined #osdev 15:26:07 BOO robert and oink 15:26:10 hehe 15:26:13 see 15:26:21 the force (miro) is with me 15:26:22 :D 15:26:37 hello babe! 15:27:19 BOOO ROMI 15:27:22 oops 15:27:23 MIRO. 15:27:39 lol 15:27:40 watch out, miro is taff.open 15:28:48 WOW 15:29:04 my desktoip looks such kool lights off ! 15:30:17 miro: miro 15:35:04 what? 15:37:17 oink: 15:37:19 Rico: 15:37:22 rob_ert: 15:37:24 lynx: 15:37:53 ja? 15:38:06 go to sleep, all of you ! :D 15:38:22 ewww 15:38:27 lynx pooped his pants! 15:38:37 :( 15:38:45 i hate it if you talk about that openly 15:38:46 bah 15:38:48 --- part: lynx left #osdev 15:38:50 :) 15:39:00 --- join: wossname (wossname@Toronto-HSE-ppp3681771.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 15:39:37 --- join: lynx (~lynx@p50809B21.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 15:39:48 why did you do that? :) 15:41:52 uhh 15:41:58 huh 15:42:00 hhu 15:42:10 because miro treats me like diarrhea :/ 15:42:14 lynx: what woudl you say if i came to visit you? 15:42:37 "can i keep him?" (looking at dad) 15:42:46 :) 15:42:48 well 15:42:48 :) 15:42:55 what are yo u doing in germansk ? 15:43:03 agh i can't come there 15:43:10 it was trick question 15:43:14 maybenext year... 15:43:17 maybe 15:43:23 i coudl visit lnn at least 15:43:54 chees, i hope he tells k* abuot his feelings... 15:44:01 he has tried for a year 15:44:03 or so now 15:44:12 75% of year at least 15:44:15 :P 15:44:39 lynx: where are you going after schoo? 15:45:04 if you ever come to finland let me show you UIAH then 15:45:09 :) 15:45:56 --- join: DRF (~daniel@host213-121-69-2.surfport24.v21.co.uk) joined #osdev 15:46:32 heh 15:46:41 finland is WAY too far away 15:46:46 hey drf babi 15:46:57 but it is not 15:47:02 you can use neuros here too 15:47:36 (big paste!) > i wont be irccing soon :) 15:47:36 *** Juk Nickname is already in use. 15:47:36 *** You have specified an illegal nickname 15:47:36 *** Please enter your nickname 15:47:36 *** murina is now known as jukka 15:47:39 There, write this: 15:47:39 /set %sexy 0 15:47:41 > ehe 15:47:43 /timer 256 0 echo -s ascii nr %sexy is $chr(%sexy) | inc %sexy 15:47:45 /unset %sexy 15:47:46 --- quit: Aardappel ("http://wouter.fov120.com/") 15:47:56 eh 15:48:06 i wonder where i got that 15:48:07 :) 15:52:08 --- join: EtherNet (~Under@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 15:52:11 Hi there lynx 15:53:06 http://www.digdug.cx/quotes/?8215 15:53:09 :) 16:06:55 --- join: eks_ (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 16:07:10 --- nick: eks_ -> eks[home] 16:08:38 --- nick: EtherNet -> EtherNet\AFK 16:14:19 --- nick: ctkrohn|away -> ctkrohn|reallyaw 16:14:32 --- nick: ctkrohn|reallyaw -> ctk|reallyaway 16:22:31 --- join: Zn4k (zinac@cs243169-153.jam.rr.com) joined #osdev 16:22:33 --- part: Zn4k left #osdev 16:26:56 ahha, the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional :P 16:28:25 damn straight 16:29:48 --- join: kunphuzil (~kunphuzil@1Cust214.tnt12.phoenix.az.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 16:29:53 Heyllo. 16:30:03 * kunphuzil searches for a link that actually works for the song "Alive" by POD 16:30:11 I'd push it as much as restoring the original pledge and remove the "american flag" form there, and keep it as it was, "My Flag" 16:30:27 You guys talking about that too? 16:30:37 They were talking about it on the radio 16:31:00 this would open up the doors to "fraternity", in a world sense rather than straight american patriotisim taking advantages of other countries 16:31:09 microsoft and the chip manufacturers conspire to control our computers and take away our rights.. 16:31:21 wossname: yeah.. palladium.. :( 16:31:27 and AMD is part of it 16:31:37 was just reading the register :( 16:31:40 * eks[home] thinks air likes that AMD is getting bad pub out of it 16:31:53 all you smart people will have to work up ways around it ;) 16:32:09 wossname: I will stop using computers ;) 16:32:30 hey, not bad 16:32:59 i'll start an _eleet_ book piracy ring.. 16:33:06 using photocopiers 16:33:21 ehehe 16:33:38 hehe 16:33:44 they will make palladium-ridded photocopiers too ;) 16:33:58 palladium? 16:34:00 and if the page got an embedded hologram, you will be asked for the author password :P 16:34:03 students won't be able to photocopy for research :( 16:34:25 an underground photocopier blackmarket will spring up, selling illegal photocopiers that have been modified 16:34:34 rotfl 16:34:48 what is palladium? 16:34:49 sad.. but I fear that in 10 or 20 years.. that's what it will be :( 16:35:04 kunphuzil: a "security and privacy" chip from Microsoft.. 16:35:05 kun: somebody called it "Windows 1984" 16:35:36 What exactly does this "security and privacy" chip do? 16:36:00 it "protects and secures the rights of content creators" 16:36:00 kunphuzil: it makes sure you don't play illegal (copied) DVD, copyrighted mp3 without paying access rights, etc.. 16:36:22 that sucks, and microshit is behind this? 16:36:22 how will they deal with ripped DVDs, for example? 16:36:25 kunphuzil: ja 16:36:39 I mean, people re-encode them at lower quality _without_ 'content tags' or however it will work 16:37:03 wossname: original DVD have serial numbers on the medium, it will play only if using the palladium algorithm the serial number matches a certain key 16:37:03 same goes for mp3s 16:37:37 they also have DVDs that have zip codes in then so you can only play them in certain parts of the world 16:37:38 you could hook up the video output of a windows system playing a rented dvd to a linux box with an auxillary video input 16:37:46 and encode them on that secondary system 16:38:02 they might just try to bring into court that anybody not using "Windows Media Player" is basically using their software for illegal means 16:38:14 heh 16:38:20 ha, after doj the states won't let them get away with that 16:38:33 I hope not 16:38:45 but not quite sure the court got the balls to hit ms 16:38:58 ah, ms is just ensuring user security. 16:39:01 I think I am going to use my cluster to crack DVD encoding 16:39:16 seriously, unless they _do_ finally write perfect code, it'll be cracked 16:39:20 there's just a bunch of scared frustrated kids (9 of them) that try to keep their lolipop but are almost ready to give them to MS if they ask 16:39:41 wossname: there's no such thing as perfect code 16:39:54 rob_ert's code is perfect code. 16:39:59 16:40:01 same goes for mine. 16:40:06 speak for yourself, eks 16:40:08 16:40:11 so air said ;) 16:40:28 Heh, air's code is far from perfect ;) 16:40:32 ehehe 16:40:49 * kunphuzil is using cria and experiences seg faults 16:40:52 kunphuzil: thanks for that security glitch you found, we can now put air back in the real world of living 16:40:56 kunphuzil: u are correct, my code is beyond perfect ;) 16:41:06 air: lol 16:41:18 eks: really? air said it was me.. 16:41:27 kunphuzil: pretty sure he did yeah... 16:41:51 * kunphuzil burns copies of linux distros from the library books ;) 16:42:15 that security hole in cria is pretty damn impressive 16:42:38 huh? 16:42:39 im still trying to figure out how cria talking linux into allowing a user to write to /root/ 16:42:40 air: what else, you wrote it, it had to be impressive ;) 16:42:48 heh, yeah 16:42:52 I thought it was me 16:43:30 maybe it's a linux bug ;) 16:43:30 air: as long as I don't set the dcc dir, it won't work right? 16:43:46 eks[home]: no way, thats all crias fault :) 16:43:50 eks: A bug.. in linux? 16:43:59 kunphuzil: there's plenty of them :p 16:44:13 eks: i know, i was kidding 16:44:22 :) 16:44:22 although he is using mandrake linux... 16:44:26 * kunphuzil listens to POD and Linkin Park 16:44:32 air: I am changing to Red Hat 16:44:38 good choice 16:44:39 maybe 16:44:40 huh... 16:44:43 sad choice... 16:44:55 change to debian or gentoo, at least you won't have any dependency/upgrade hell 16:45:22 redhat is good if you plan on using a box with the same distro forever, but when you will want to upgrade, it's more asshole than upgrading a windows box 16:45:30 --- join: kapple (karingo@159.portland-03-04rs.or.dial-access.att.net) joined #osdev 16:45:42 --- quit: kapple (Remote closed the connection) 16:45:47 --- join: kapple (karingo@159.portland-03-04rs.or.dial-access.att.net) joined #osdev 16:45:50 oops.. asshole hassle.. 16:46:12 :DD 16:46:33 * eks[home] 's head is badly wired, always mix those two words.. 16:47:21 i was running an experiment today, and my little brother stopped it when it was 3/4ths done (13 hours) 16:47:56 what kind of experiment? 16:48:11 damn those little kids, have no respect for computing these days! 16:48:31 air: I figured it out! 16:48:32 a really stupid one, since i could have found out the result 16:48:39 was brute force testing a crc algorithm 16:48:51 ***found out by examining 16:49:07 Ping pong bang 16:49:28 * eks[home] ~~pong~~ 16:51:52 |o | 16:52:00 | o | 16:52:08 | o | 16:52:12 | o| 16:52:16 | o | 16:52:19 | o | 16:52:21 |o | 16:52:24 | o | 16:52:25 kunphuzil: game over 16:52:29 damn' 16:52:39 you forgot to render the paddles 16:52:52 heh 16:59:53 about how much does Red Hat take up w/o any packages? 17:00:58 --- quit: mur ("mur murr") 17:01:05 why are you asking this ? :P 17:01:18 just want to know 17:01:25 cause i might install it 17:01:41 it is the most used distro for clusters 17:03:00 eks[home]: 17:04:22 ... 17:06:24 Start 17:06:31 | o | 17:06:36 | 17:06:43 | o 17:06:44 lol? 17:09:55 --- quit: gab (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:09:57 --- quit: kunphuzil (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:10:54 miro: no.. not lol.. it's a pong game.. 17:11:00 --- join: kunphuzil (~kunphuzil@1Cust235.tnt10.phoenix.az.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 17:11:12 hehe 17:11:19 seg fault 17:11:34 eheh 17:11:55 * eks[home] kicks air: fix your damn bugs! 17:12:21 * kunphuzil kicks eks, make air fix his damn bugs! 17:12:25 * oink *yawns* 17:12:28 eheh 17:12:31 *yawn* 17:12:49 kunphuzil: dunno if he can fix that one.. the last major segfault he had in his app I had to find myself.. 17:13:02 le soileil vient de se lever, l'ami du petit dejeuner, l'ami ricore.. 17:13:03 lalala 17:13:08 soleil* 17:13:23 heh 17:14:04 I CANNOT READ YOUR DEMONIC TONGUE 17:14:24 wossname: notre langue n'est pas demoniaque.. 17:14:25 WELL BE A NORMAL QUEBECER LIKE EKS, AND LEARN FRENCH. 17:14:26 translate so i may see if i got it right :> 17:14:38 I won't translate this. 17:14:42 it's uhm.. 17:14:44 but i'm an ontarioian 17:14:50 damn disks! faulty! 17:14:50 sun goes down? love lunch? 17:14:51 eheh 17:15:05 guess that whats you get for getting them at the library ;) 17:15:07 wossname: the sun just came up, the friend of the breakfast, .... 17:15:17 :> 17:15:22 it *cant* be translated anyway 17:15:24 * eks[home] doesn't know "ricore" either *G* 17:15:26 hah 17:15:29 you suck :P 17:15:31 wow, i screwed up both 17:15:36 it's an old ehm.. 17:15:39 nite 17:15:40 ? 17:15:42 gn lynx 17:15:44 coffee thing :) 17:15:50 * eks[home] gives lynx his DailyDoseOfLove(tm) 17:15:51 French, though afaik. 17:15:53 corel linux any good? 17:16:01 discontinued, yeah! 17:16:02 oink: and you expected me to know it?? :P 17:16:05 kunphuzil: Debian or Gentoo if you want some linux :P 17:16:08 kunphuzil: sucks hardcore 17:16:10 eks[home]: oui. :)( 17:16:11 :)* 17:16:21 kunphuzil: seriously, gentoo or debian 17:16:24 oink: on a 28.8 line? 17:16:33 --- join: qz (qz@bespin.org) joined #osdev 17:16:34 kunphuzil: hu ? 17:16:35 kunphuzil: you can have debian on a cd.. 17:16:43 damnit 17:16:47 --- quit: lynx ("BitchX: the official sponsor of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games") 17:16:49 qz: ? 17:16:54 eks: I know, but money is being used for the cluster now 17:17:03 money ? cluster ? UH ? 17:17:03 i've had 6667 firewalled for 15 minutes and it wont close the socket 17:17:07 hah 17:17:10 :P 17:17:12 kunphuzil: and how do you expect to have Corel Linux? 17:17:18 qz: told you, try tcpkill from the dsniff package 17:17:22 --- quit: air (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:17:25 eks: disks from the lib 17:17:52 eks: all they had was red hat and corel damn library 17:17:57 kunphuzil: there must be someone with any decent distro in your town/city/megapolis/ 17:18:20 redhat sucks for upgrade in the future, and newer packages requires different lib versions which are a *real* pain 17:18:23 country. 17:18:24 :P 17:18:25 --- quit: DRF ("Good nite folks") 17:18:28 hah 17:18:32 deadrat! 17:18:40 corel isn't made to be a power user distro, it's a "it's installed and it works I don't touch it" kind of thing 17:18:42 Deadpig. 17:18:43 hmm 17:18:51 eks: maybe, how come debian is so expensive on cheapbytes.com ? 17:18:55 eks: oh 17:19:05 EXPENSIVE ?? DEBIAN ?? 17:19:08 --- join: DrSpock (~Spock@ool-182cc22f.dyn.optonline.net) joined #osdev 17:19:10 Hi 17:19:15 Debian is FREE, (Free as in free beer, and Free as in freedom) 17:19:26 oink: Still doesn't work! 17:19:29 oink: to order the disks 17:19:30 kunphuzil: I can send you a cd of debian by mail for price of shipping.. 17:19:33 Why can't root delete a user's file? 17:19:34 at least, Debian GNU/Linux, the distro. 17:19:36 I have a question, how do os install programs work, like the ones on Linux? 17:19:41 rob_ert: :(( 17:19:42 rob_ert: ? 17:19:49 rob_ert: root can delete a user file 17:19:50 eks: where do you live? 17:19:52 kunphuzil: you pay the CD. Try linuxcentral 17:19:58 eks[home]: I get "permission denied" when I try to do that, heh. 17:19:59 you can get it for cheap 17:20:05 unless it's a samba mounted partition with the file being used by another user 17:20:12 Nope. 17:20:14 kunphuzil: Canada 17:20:18 root is the only one logged in now. 17:20:23 Manitoba.. Winnipeg 17:20:25 (I remember, this is where I got my deb slink cd's :)) 17:20:53 eks: ooh! maybe next time my dad comes up there he can pick em up ;) 17:20:56 DrSpock: os instal programs? 17:21:07 DrSpock: you mean when you first install the os or the package managers? 17:21:08 robert has a weird problem.. looks more like a bad cluster thing to me 17:21:17 for the os 17:21:19 anaconda, etc 17:21:21 kunphuzil: you are around Winnipeg? 17:21:22 How do I force an fsck, oink ? 17:21:23 --- join: DorkPunk (l33t3sth4x@207-173-195-103.academicplanet.com) joined #osdev 17:21:33 eks: shouldn't cost more than $10 right? 17:21:34 eks[home]: Is Arizona close to winnipeg? 17:21:44 rob_ert: maybe, dunno *G* 17:21:45 eks: no, my dad goes up there for work 17:21:46 take your pe*** and do it hard. 17:21:50 (oops) 17:21:51 kunphuzil: ahh :) 17:22:06 How do I force an fsck upon reboot? 17:22:07 (< rob_ert> BAH!) 17:22:09 rob_ert: fsck -f ? ;) 17:22:10 :P 17:22:15 or, how much would it cost to send them here? 17:22:17 Can I do that? 17:22:18 boot with init=/bin/sh 17:22:18 Hrm 17:22:20 and fsck -f 17:22:22 or something 17:22:23 :) 17:22:29 rob_ert: boot in single user mode, then run fsck manually 17:22:55 eks: ??? 17:23:03 kunphuzil: I guess it would cost around 2$ 17:23:12 eks: really? cool! 17:23:24 kunphuzil: www.linuxcentral.net 17:23:25 or 17:23:26 something :)O 17:23:30 not like I'm sending a 30lbs manual with it :p 17:23:36 hahh 17:23:37 rob_ert - Look into the "-f" or "-F" option for shutdown. 17:23:42 hah* 17:23:43 :P 17:23:52 let eks do that for you :P 17:23:57 rob_ert - One is do *not* fsck on boot, the other is *force* fsck on boot. I've forgotten which is which, I'm sorry. 17:24:01 kunphuzil: ask in #debian if anybody around your town got a debian cd to share 17:24:07 haha 17:24:10 eks: ok 17:24:11 kunphuzil: pretty sure there's somebody in there 17:24:20 --- nick: ctk|reallyaway -> ctkrohn 17:24:21 j #debian 17:24:23 Hrm.. 17:24:24 oops 17:24:27 --- quit: wossname (""Huhuhuhuhuhu, I'm hunting wabbits." - Kurt Cobain") 17:24:31 the #debian community is _MUCH_ friendlier than the #redhat one :P 17:24:41 rob_ert: do an hard reboot, then you will force fsck :PP 17:24:46 -F forces 17:24:51 oink: PFFF 17:24:55 lol 17:25:01 rob_ert - I would have looked it up for you, except I don't have access to any Linux right now. 17:25:17 btw 17:25:18 DorkPunk: It's OK :) 17:25:20 I'm sure it's -F 17:25:26 since I use 'shutdown -f now' usually 17:25:37 oink: you use shutdown -r now ;) 17:25:40 werkreqowfkdq 17:25:43 YES. 17:25:47 darn 17:25:49 see ? 17:25:50 ehehe 17:25:51 it's 02:25 17:26:04 so, I should get to bed :)) 17:26:07 * eks[home] likes catching oink's mistakes ;) 17:26:14 hah 17:26:17 yeah.. and I should be working on a website .. 17:26:21 me laughs, badly. 17:26:23 er 17:26:24 * oink 17:26:34 go to bed :p 17:26:36 yea 17:26:42 rob_ert: bonne nuit! 17:26:44 :) 17:26:44 NIGHT, OINK. 17:26:45 :)) 17:26:47 oink !go -bed 17:26:47 eks[home]: good night :) 17:26:47 God natt. 17:26:48 Natti. 17:26:51 gn oink 17:26:51 Gute Nacht. 17:27:29 what was that url to the "lilo" petition? 17:27:39 lilo pettition? 17:27:46 hm 17:27:54 --- join: air (~brand@12-254-199-50.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 17:27:58 wb air 17:28:01 Still doesn't work :( 17:28:01 gn air 17:28:03 kunphuzil: lilo is sending a globalnotice to all irc user once a day asking for money to pay his personal rent 17:28:03 :) 17:28:18 :( 17:28:27 kunphuzil: we want him to try to find a job instead and get a life, the network can live without him 17:28:30 Everything is so fucked up. 17:28:33 --- quit: DrSpock () 17:28:35 My Windows is being mean to me. 17:28:45 eks[home]: Can HE live without the network? :) 17:28:45 eks: good idea 17:28:52 eks[home]: heh 17:28:56 eks: he has a job, it just doesnt pay enuf 17:29:05 rob_ert: I doubt he woudl be banned, but quite frankly he shouldn't be head of OPN 17:29:25 air: does he? last I heard he had been fired 3 weeks ago 17:29:31 yep 17:29:33 he has one.. 17:29:34 so 17:29:38 good night :) 17:29:40 gn oink 17:30:10 eks: he lost his job with his brother in may 17:30:14 air: there's no reason why he should send a globalnotice to ask us to pay for him though 17:30:40 then he got a job in a colocation facility 17:30:42 send a wallop, at least you can turn it off 17:31:27 hi eks 17:31:32 brb 17:31:32 yo cookin 17:31:59 wzup? 17:32:27 Hrm. 17:32:33 fsck didn't report anything 17:32:47 What can cause a "permission denied" when root tries to delete a file? 17:32:56 if its in use 17:33:01 rob_ert - Does root have permissions to the file? 17:33:11 DorkPunk: root has perms for everything 17:33:28 ctkrohn - Not necessarily, if I remember correctly... Can't root remove permissions for himself? 17:33:34 I don't think so 17:33:36 ctkrohn - Of course, root can change any permissions he wants... 17:33:39 Who could give them back? 17:33:45 ctkrohn - root! 17:34:03 ctkrohn: even in use, the file should be deleted from the directory but its inode kept until the file is closed 17:34:12 --- nick: EtherNet\AFK -> EtherNet 17:34:25 --- part: EtherNet left #osdev 17:34:29 rob_ert: chown root.root 17:34:32 rob_ert: rm file ;) 17:34:45 Hmm.. now, THIS is strange. 17:35:00 heh 17:35:12 rob_ert: are you sure somebody didn't install a rootkit on ya? :P 17:35:22 Hrm. 17:35:29 Look 17:35:32 When I login as root 17:35:34 * eks[home] looks 17:35:34 And do: 17:35:39 cd /home/robert 17:35:49 It tells me that's my home dir 17:35:50 o_O 17:36:02 cat /etc/passwd | grep "root" 17:36:02 Hmm 17:36:16 Wait, that file I'm trying to delete is actually on this computer. 17:36:31 * rob_ert says "D'OH!" 17:36:35 lol 17:36:42 * eks[home] feels something stupid happened 17:37:08 Hehe. 17:37:09 Yeah. 17:37:18 I'm really, really stupid :) 17:37:32 * rob_ert puts his silly hat on to show he's an idiot. 17:38:07 rob_ert: plz! share the fun and tell us :P 17:39:30 What do you mean? 17:39:57 tell us what you were doign so that you get "permission denied" :) 17:40:07 where to downlod rootkit from ?? frashmeat.net ?? kthx 17:40:16 DorkPunk: ahah 17:40:21 NFS just didn't like that the super used of a machine that just mounted an NFS share started to delete users files :) 17:40:23 plz halp me i forgot mai root passward 17:40:24 DorkPunk: apt-get install rootkit ;) 17:40:24 DorkPunk: :P 17:40:42 rob_ert: ehehe 17:40:45 DorkPunk: eks is a l33t craxx0r, hell help ya 17:41:01 yaya halp me eks kthx 17:41:07 i will give u bnc 17:41:17 lol 17:41:20 i have botnet 17:41:25 rob_ert: first, I'm not a cracker 17:41:35 rob_ert: second, I won't help ppl rootkit others 17:42:05 nono not others i forgot only MAI root passward 17:42:41 eks[home]: ;) 17:42:45 DorkPunk: lol 17:42:51 eks[home]: I was joking :P 17:43:25 DorkPunk: boot from a boot floppy, mount your root partition, remove the password field in your /etc/passwd, next time you reboot you will be able to login as root without entering a password, then you can use passwd to set a new one 17:43:44 --- join: wjorzk (~wjorzk@66-44-42-42.s550.apx1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com) joined #osdev 17:43:45 eks but no, mai computar is at frand's house... i am only at mai hous... 17:43:52 and unix boot floppy that can read the file system of your root partition will work 17:43:53 i haev only talnat axess 17:44:15 * eks[home] hates l33t h4x0r's sp33ch 17:44:15 is there a napster for linux? 17:44:19 Allright, enough of that. Sorry. 17:44:24 DorkPunk: s/mai/my/ 17:44:27 kunphuzil - Yes, several... 17:44:49 kunphuzil: gnutella, gnut, and many others.. 17:44:49 * rob_ert licks his KaZaa. 17:44:52 gnapster 17:44:55 thanks 17:45:14 not sure any of them works with the new napster network though.. 17:45:20 ? 17:45:33 well i want to find the "Alive" Song by POD 17:45:53 napster changed the protocol at some point, took some time before the unix alternative pick it up 17:46:58 yeah! 17:47:00 --- quit: kunphuzil (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:47:01 great music! 17:47:35 --- join: kunphuzil (~kunphuzil@1Cust33.tnt1.phoenix.az.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 17:47:42 Shite head modem 17:47:43 * eks[home] thinks he will get himself some speakers soon.. 17:48:24 what about a napster for KDE? 17:51:09 kunphuzil: freshmeat can be useful for that kind of query.. 17:51:38 --- join: Stalky (~cms@ool-4352b4ce.dyn.optonline.net) joined #osdev 17:51:40 You cannot request this song due to copyright restrictions. Please try a different search. 17:51:51 kunphuzil: knapster 17:51:54 Wtf do they have the link then on there site? 17:51:59 Gnutella! 17:52:08 * ctkrohn is disappointed about audiogalaxy 17:52:13 http://knapster.sourceforge.net/ 17:52:15 Gnu-"we don't give a damn about copyrights"-tella 17:52:19 I haven't had much luck with gnutella 17:52:40 ctkrohn: that is where i just was, adiogalaxy 17:53:02 Try GTK-Gnutella. It is my favorite for Linux. 17:53:18 If I'm behind a firewall, do I have to forward port 6346 to my box? 17:53:25 I've been using qtella, it seems pretty nice 17:53:37 but AG rocked, it would be hard to find a good replacement 17:53:49 AG? 17:53:59 Audiogalaxy 17:54:12 oh 17:54:19 ctkrohn: yeah, but you will probably only be able to receive files, not send 17:54:36 even if I forward that port? 17:54:39 ctkrohn: unless you have auto-fowarding 'accept' of all ports1024 and above 17:54:40 I was just there like i said, i was looking for the song alive by POD and it gave me a (c) error 17:54:43 hrm 17:55:05 ctkrohn: when you send a file you open the port and wait for the remote computer to come connect to it, which you don't know which port will be used 17:55:26 eks: a red hat rmp should work on mandrake right? 17:55:35 oh, ok. 17:55:41 stupid firewall. 17:55:44 kunphuzil: you are out of my field of expertise *G* 17:55:54 * eks[home] refuses to answer redhat/mandrake specific questions :P 17:56:24 i'll just download the source 17:56:51 hrm, I don't think my router has an autoforward setting 17:56:52 :( 17:57:15 what is a router used for exactly? 17:57:47 kunphuzil: redirecting packets between multiple network interfaces 17:58:09 determining which packet should go where, etc. 17:58:18 oh, do you have to have one if you have a network? 17:59:02 --- quit: qz ("Leaving") 17:59:28 no, you can use a hub for most small networks 17:59:53 but it's a good idea to have a router if you have more than 20 comptuers, this way you can create small "zones" which helps reduce the network noise 17:59:55 oh yeah duh, i guess i just didn't grasp what it was 18:00:16 a hub just replicates all incoming packets to all outgoing ports 18:00:20 it doesn't check for whom it is 18:00:36 so everybody receives the packet even if it's not for them, they just discard it 18:00:43 that's what is "network noise" 18:00:54 oh 18:01:00 I just have a Linksys box which says "Wireless Access Point and Cable/DSL Router, with Firewall"... I'm not totally sure about everything it does 18:01:05 ok 18:01:13 if you have too many computers connected in the same zone, you can end up with more noise than useful data, so most of your network bandwidth is wasted in packets that are never for your computers 18:01:27 gn all 18:01:33 nite 18:02:07 so you split them up using a router, this way each zone have less noise and packets destined for a computer of the other zone can reach their destination using the routing tables of the router 18:02:24 you can also use a firewall (normally on the same computer as the router) to prevent some types of data to go thru 18:02:29 --- nick: Zenton -> ZzZ_enton 18:02:34 if i have a network of small computers like, 6 or 7, should I use a router? 18:03:06 nah, you should use a router if you go above 10 computers, definately use one if you have above 20 computers 18:03:21 oh ok 18:04:00 in the best of the worlds you would have a router, no hub and only 1 computer per zone.. 18:04:09 but that is a bit over stretching it :p 18:04:12 heh 18:04:56 if the internet was built using only hubs and no routers, every computer would receive all the data going on the network 18:05:41 damn, that would suck 18:06:42 damn, i don't have qstring.h 18:06:46 --- join: puppy (puppy@roc-66-67-55-246.rochester.rr.com) joined #osdev 18:11:43 Does anyone know any good software task switch sites? 18:12:07 DorkPunk: clarify.. 18:12:37 eks[home] - I am still trying to figure out how to implement context switching... 18:13:45 I don't know of any good site about that topic 18:14:08 if you find one let me know, I'll add it to void-core.2y.net 18:14:11 unfortunately, it seems that most good OS documentation is found in books :( 18:14:13 Oh ok. :-\ 18:14:19 I have no book.. 18:14:25 I don't either 18:14:28 but I will soon 18:14:40 heya can anyone find me something so i can make a logo /banner 18:14:40 ctkrohn: yeah.. this info is normally worth money, easier to get ppl to give you money for a book than viewing their webpage.. 18:15:24 puppy: do a logo/banner for "TelecomOptions" (site at telecomoptions.com) for a "call management software" :) 18:15:28 eks: tanenbaum's Minix books is thought to be good for beginners, right? 18:15:36 no 18:15:39 ctkrohn: yes, one of the best 18:15:42 not likee that 18:15:47 good, since that's what I ordered :) 18:15:51 :) 18:15:55 I want the Minix book! 18:15:58 you won't be disappointed, it's a good book 18:15:59 80 dollars. :-( 18:16:16 another very good book is "Operating Systems" by Stallings 18:16:48 DorkPunk: What country are you in? I got mine for $50 from Amazon.com 18:16:59 softcover edition 18:17:03 ctkrohn - USA... I have not checked Amazon... Only a bookstore... 18:17:15 Stallings' book seems to be more on theory than practice, and at this stage its practice that I'm looking for 18:17:50 I have not even seen the Minix book on bookwarez. 18:18:15 bookwarez... are those pdf's traded over gnutella et al? 18:18:52 ctkrohn - Yes. 18:18:55 ah. 18:18:57 ctkrohn - Or .txt. 18:19:05 I don't like reading on-screen text 18:19:11 especially on my shitty monitor 18:19:14 ctkrohn - Yes, me neither, but it is free! 18:20:09 DorkPunk: really? how can i get them? 18:20:33 kunphuzil - I get mine from Gnutella. 18:20:50 just search for ebook or bookz 18:21:01 you will find tons of 'em 18:21:01 do i have to have gnome for Gnutella? 18:21:07 kunphuzil - No. 18:21:13 kunphuzil: only libgtk 18:21:13 kunphuzil - Do you have GTK libs? 18:21:26 eks[home] - You don't even need libgtk if you only use Gnut. :-) 18:21:33 DorkPunk: yeah, i have got Gnome installed 18:21:42 kunphuzil - Try GTK-Gnutella. 18:21:44 * ctkrohn likes dead-tree documentation :) 18:21:54 ctkrohn: hehe 18:21:54 DorkPunk: true, but gtk-gnutella kicks gnut's ass 18:22:46 I've heard good things about mutella 18:22:52 mutella? 18:22:54 but I don't like it too much, its CLI-based 18:23:02 what is it? 18:23:12 --- quit: Stalky ("http://www.echosproject.org") 18:23:16 When I was a n00b, I liked LimeWire. LoL 18:23:31 DorkPunk: you are not a l33t? 18:23:50 eks[home] - Not yet. Only after my kernel can context switch. 18:24:32 hrm.. writing a 10kb webpage on a single line should be a crime.. 18:26:01 yes. 18:26:01 eks: where? 18:26:04 who the hell would do that? 18:26:32 microshit frontpage maybe 18:28:44 stupid kate (the KDE text editor) keeps crashing 18:28:53 It's a great editor, but it crashes way too much 18:29:02 Kate is a nice name for a girl. :-) 18:29:06 ctkrohn: then it's nto that great of an editor ;) 18:29:24 Doesn't LJMP take two arguments? 18:29:27 I mean, if it worked it would be nice 18:31:29 ctkrohm: doesn't crash for me 18:31:34 what KDE are you using? 18:31:42 3 18:31:45 .0.1? 18:31:45 uh 2.something 18:31:46 (sorry) 18:31:49 hrm. 18:32:00 --- nick: puppy -> puppy_afk 18:32:06 2.x worked fine for me, but the version with KDE 3.x crashes alot, on both Slackware and Debian 18:32:50 becuz kde is teh SUX ! 18:32:57 you're teh suck 18:33:14 hrm... I thought using "teh" instead of "the" was an Ars Technica thing. 18:33:22 DorkPunk: You don't happen to visit arstechnica.com alot, do you? 18:33:52 No, I have never heard of it. 18:33:58 Using "teh" is a l33t h4x0r thing. LoL 18:34:07 hrm. 18:34:14 weird. 18:34:44 l33t h4x0r internat spy typ to fast so sometime typ teh !! 18:34:53 --- quit: puppy_afk ("NO ROUTE TO PEOPLE") 18:35:20 heh 18:35:30 --- quit: slime ("leaving") 18:37:11 well, back to using gvim 18:37:14 gvim? 18:37:32 gvim? That's like saying "console Windows 98." 18:37:40 eww 18:37:46 and gvim doesn't like my backspace key 18:37:48 stupid Slackware packages 18:37:53 hey, vim rocks 18:38:03 * kunphuzil likes pico!!! 18:38:03 bah 18:38:06 wimp 18:38:13 why? 18:38:21 * DorkPunk likes vi! 18:38:31 I dunno, its "easy"... ;) 18:38:38 heh 18:38:39 Real Men (tm) use vi ;) 18:38:45 rob_ert likes guys! 18:38:57 * kunphuzil now uses vi[m] ;) 18:38:58 Seriously though, I couldn't imaging coding in pico since it doesn't have syntax highlighting 18:39:33 ctkrohn: yeah it can suck, plus it does not have auto indent 18:40:52 --- quit: DorkPunk () 18:43:56 --- join: futhin (thin@h24-64-175-61.cg.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 18:46:58 bah. fuck html tongiht. I go to sleep 18:46:59 gn all 18:47:11 --- quit: eks[home] ("Gentoo - Linux done right") 18:48:28 * kunphuzil is going to try vector linux.. 18:49:09 bye all 18:49:19 going to connect on a different craputer 18:49:35 --- quit: kunphuzil ("CRIA v0.2.3pre -- http://www.qzx.com/cria") 18:51:28 everyone is cria 18:51:35 everyone in cria 18:52:09 what's cria 18:52:10 i forget 18:52:19 airc 18:52:34 its the new name of air's irc client 18:52:43 and it's coded in crush? 18:52:57 no 18:53:05 C i think 19:03:50 --- join: EtherNet (~Under@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 19:04:40 --- quit: futhin ("gtg") 19:16:09 EtherNet: is yer ircd up? 19:18:26 air no, sorry, I was making some changes... 19:18:48 --- quit: ctkrohn ("Client Exiting") 19:19:58 did you fix the bug ? 19:25:01 --- join: tenzin (xtofu@p507-tnt2.mel.ihug.com.au) joined #osdev 19:27:48 i fixed one 19:28:33 cool! excellent ;) 19:31:29 eks? 19:34:57 --- nick: EtherNet -> faeroe 19:38:33 --- nick: faeroe -> EtherNet 19:45:23 damn power outages 19:50:33 --- quit: EtherNet () 19:50:33 --- quit: wjorzk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:58:28 --- part: miro left #osdev 19:58:42 does anyone know where I can get some network card chipset documentation? 19:59:34 --- join: wjorzk (~wjorzk@66-44-47-176.s1954.apx1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com) joined #osdev 20:00:33 westlord: ya, look at the topic 20:04:36 air: sorry :)... I've been idling for awhile; I presume I can find out on one of those pages/ 20:06:29 --- join: lar1 (~lar1@adsl-63-203-73-56.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #osdev 20:06:42 http://chip.ms.mff.cuni.cz/~pcguts/ 20:08:25 --- join: EtherNet (~Under@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 20:08:45 back 20:10:42 thnx :) 20:11:32 westlord hello man... 20:12:38 EtherNet: um... yo! 20:14:39 * EtherNet mm... 20:16:23 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 20:16:40 --- quit: kapple (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20:23:30 --- nick: EtherNet -> EtherNet\AFK 20:44:34 --- nick: cookin -> jrydberg 20:45:00 --- quit: EtherNet\AFK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:49:47 --- join: EtherNet\AFK (~Under@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 21:00:07 woah 21:00:21 half power 21:00:46 hello air :) 21:02:42 --- quit: wjorzk (Remote closed the connection) 21:10:48 hola 21:11:07 hola! ;) 21:15:54 time to sleep here 21:15:57 I see you tomorrow... 21:16:03 cya 21:16:38 good luck :) 21:16:45 what time is over there ? 21:16:52 22:16 21:17:05 wowww cool 21:26:39 me is sleeping... 21:26:47 * EtherNet\AFK is sleeping ;) 21:33:36 --- join: dsqu (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 21:33:42 --- quit: nbsp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:37:18 --- quit: Kurt (Remote closed the connection) 21:38:31 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s89.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 21:40:04 yawn 21:40:46 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:48:20 --- quit: dsqu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:48:34 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 21:49:11 --- nick: geist -> geist2 21:49:40 --- join: geist (~geist@209-162-49-124.thegrid.net) joined #osdev 22:04:28 --- join: lodda (lodda@p508FFB7F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 22:04:43 good morning guys 22:05:04 howdy 22:06:14 yo 22:06:35 i'm tired 22:06:43 it's 7am here 22:17:22 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033486971 <<< look at this(for german-speaking people) 22:29:08 did everyone watch the startrek trailer? 22:30:09 hmm? 22:30:45 guess not enough german speakers here 22:30:52 there is one in ebay, who writes "sourse" instead of "source" 22:32:30 (the article i wanted to show you is about a notebook, that can fall 90cm without being unuseable) 22:32:41 i like my grammar 22:33:53 i wanna buy a sparc+alpha+powerpc and a notebook 22:34:53 ah 22:39:54 geist: what? 22:43:47 SORRY Habe mich geirrt! DAS NOTEBOOK HAT EINEN 486-33 Prozessor !!! Nicht 80386 SONDERN 486 !!!! 22:45:01 in ebay 23:14:16 i didn't find a alpha-computer :( 23:14:17 --- quit: nbsp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:14:32 --- join: dsqu (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 23:18:40 bummer 23:24:07 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@p50835DB6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 23:24:57 --- quit: ava (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:25:18 --- join: ava (~d@chcgil2-ar6-4-47-169-191.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #osdev 23:27:36 --- nick: lodda -> lodda_school 23:32:47 i'm away now 23:40:02 --- quit: tenzin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:40:13 --- join: tenzin (xtofu@p507-tnt2.mel.ihug.com.au) joined #osdev 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/02.06.26