00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/02.07.02 00:00:30 heh 00:03:14 hrm.. 2am.. it's _really_ time for me to go to bed 00:03:16 gn 00:03:21 --- quit: eks ("Gentoo - Linux done right") 00:09:45 -rw------- 1 grem grem 503140352 Jun 5 18:17 tcsh.core 00:09:59 whos got the biggest? 00:14:06 --- join: berk (~berk@kraft30.skbkontur.ru) joined #osdev 00:14:33 -rwx------ 1 pengo pengo 90000000000 Jul 1 13:59 tcsh.core 00:18:29 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:19:19 lying bitch :) 00:22:08 am i that transparent? :) 00:28:20 yeahh 00:30:48 is 83 gig so big? 00:31:19 no 00:31:33 for a core file? 00:31:37 nooo 00:31:49 but you might just gzip it and send it :) 00:32:01 on a windows box? 00:32:23 [grin] 00:32:34 ups 00:32:40 then winzip and send it :) 00:33:55 damn! i dont have enouguh space on my drive! 00:34:08 gremlin: do u know how to make video cds? 00:36:04 * tenzin adds to his to do list: fake zipped core dump generator 00:37:54 --- quit: nbsp ("brb") 00:37:56 dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024k count=83000 | gzip -9 > core.zip 00:38:16 actually tat'd be core.gz 00:38:30 hrmm.. shouldn't it have more than 0's? 00:38:54 uh no 00:38:58 that'd bea little low 00:39:03 like 81gigs or so 00:39:20 s/83000/(83*1024) 00:39:28 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 00:39:40 oh heh 00:39:58 /dev/random 00:39:59 well, you wanted a fake core generator 00:40:06 yeah, you could do that too 00:40:25 Hmmm 00:40:28 zeros would compress into a very tiny file 00:40:32 /dev/zero will compress a lot better :) 00:40:39 yeah but i didn't want it to be obviously fake 00:40:49 bah, you people want to much 00:40:52 so demanding 00:41:04 air: no 00:50:09 --- nick: geist -> geist-sleep 00:52:58 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@p50834B1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 00:56:34 i dont want the world, i just want your half 00:57:03 heh 01:03:09 --- quit: gab (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:03:43 --- quit: nbsp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:03:49 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 01:05:21 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 01:27:22 --- quit: tenzin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:27:37 --- join: tenzin (xtofu@p216-tnt1.mel.ihug.com.au) joined #osdev 01:35:28 --- nick: chide-away -> chidezzzz 01:36:28 --- quit: gab (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:38:30 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 01:38:39 --- quit: bono22 ("using sirc version 2.211+ssfe") 01:45:35 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 02:08:38 good morning (: 02:17:47 trans :) 02:24:36 --- quit: geist-sleep (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:26:17 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:36:43 --- join: muphicks (~Gazza@earthforce.freeserve.co.uk) joined #osdev 02:54:46 --- quit: chidezzzz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:05:49 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:14:01 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@p50834B1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 03:18:51 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.78) joined #osdev 03:24:17 --- nick: indigo_zZz -> indigo 03:24:21 w00000t! 03:37:49 --- quit: berk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:43:05 --- join: berk (~berk@kraft30.skbkontur.ru) joined #osdev 03:46:13 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 03:51:37 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (Remote closed the connection) 03:52:30 --- join: PUPPY (puppy@roc-66-67-55-246.rochester.rr.com) joined #osdev 03:52:39 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@p50834B1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 03:53:49 --- nick: PUPPY -> puppy 03:57:43 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:58:14 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@p50834B1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 03:59:55 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (Remote closed the connection) 04:00:26 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@p50834B1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:02:55 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (Remote closed the connection) 04:03:28 --- join: vx`schlumpf (~schlumpf@p50834B1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:05:44 --- join: vx`schlumpf_2 (~schlumpf@p50834B1C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:05:44 --- quit: vx`schlumpf_2 (Client Quit) 04:15:07 --- quit: gremlin (Remote closed the connection) 04:15:49 --- quit: Javanx ("I don't feel a thing, and i stopped remembering. The days are just like moments tourned to hours") 04:16:10 --- part: yuriz left #osdev 04:18:46 --- join: suppaman (~suppa@62.98.141.143) joined #osdev 04:18:48 --- join: kemu (~kemu@80-200-40-201.adsl.powered-by.skynet.be) joined #osdev 04:18:52 hi 04:19:02 --- quit: tenzin ("Do not cross if you have an open wound. Piranhas are attracted to blood.") 04:19:04 suppaman 04:20:12 puppy tell me 04:20:57 about? 04:22:21 later 04:22:26 lunch time 04:22:28 --- quit: suppaman (Client Quit) 04:23:46 --- quit: nbsp ("bbl :)") 04:30:40 --- quit: kemu (Remote closed the connection) 04:34:05 --- join: eirikn (eirik@2001:470:1f00:392:0:0:0:4) joined #osdev 04:35:35 --- part: puppy left #osdev 04:46:08 --- quit: rob_ert (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04:52:17 --- join: SLACKo (~SLACKo@65.199.129.108) joined #osdev 04:54:02 --- join: Stalky (~cms@ool-4352b4ce.dyn.optonline.net) joined #osdev 05:01:34 --- quit: SLACKo ("Client Exiting") 05:18:16 i'm back now 05:18:20 --- nick: lodda_school -> lodda 05:22:13 'lo 05:22:50 what is when i have a bigger OS than 1.44mb? 05:23:06 and i want to burn it on CD? 05:23:49 to make a bootable cd, you mean? 05:23:58 yes 05:24:04 cdrecord talks about "el torito" format, i think, for doing that 05:24:14 i'll take a look... 05:24:32 hmm..osrc has doc, i'll read 05:24:44 well, mkisofs, that is 05:26:50 "-b eltorito_boot_image Specifies the path and filename of the boot image to be used when making an "El Torito" bootable CD. The pathname must be relative to the source path specified to mkisofs. This option is required to make an "El Torito" bootable CD. The boot image must be exactly the size of either a 1.2, 1.44, or a 2.88 meg floppy, and mkisofs will use this size when creating the output iso9660 filesystem. It is assumed that the fir 05:26:50 st 512 byte sector should be read from the boot image (it is essentially emulating a normal floppy drive). This will work, for example, if the boot image is a LILO based boot floppy." 05:27:14 --- join: rob_ert (~robert@h137n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #osdev 05:31:23 ok 05:32:35 tnx 05:32:39 hi rob_ert 05:33:00 can you read a cd w/ int 013h or some other bios service? 05:33:21 don't know :/ 05:33:25 hrm 05:33:30 that's a problem 05:33:39 well, you can use 2.88 for the moment 05:33:59 hmm..i'd need a CD driver 05:34:02 bios must be able to do it 05:34:08 it does it to load the bootcode, after all 05:34:14 they must expose it 05:35:27 yes, it loads Linux install CDs, too 05:36:19 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:36:32 http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int-13.htm - there are a few cd funcs around ah=4a 05:38:41 --- join: mur (jukka@baana-62-165-186-239.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 05:39:20 i would have to have a CD driver on the floppy and a FS to get more datas 05:40:06 * lodda is away now: i'm going to install libranet :) it's fun i hope 05:40:24 bye 05:40:28 --- quit: lodda () 05:40:32 vya 05:40:32 cya 05:40:40 agh 05:40:43 he went arleay 05:43:11 mobius is pavlovski's project, right? 05:43:17 Yes. 05:43:22 Möbius >:) 05:43:24 somebody at my job has heard of it 05:43:29 Nice. 05:43:41 i don't know how to coax the ö from my keyboard, i fear 05:43:49 Bah. 05:43:51 i work at a joint called mobius 05:43:54 Get a Swedish keyboard :) 05:43:59 heh 05:44:43 the panic handler in my own project quotes the swedish chef 05:44:50 that's about the extent of my involvement 05:44:54 rob_ert: it's FINNISH keyboard! 05:45:12 Bah. 05:45:28 * mur browses japanese web pages 05:45:29 Swedish chef? 05:45:36 bork bork bork 05:45:37 from the muppets 05:45:39 yes 05:45:48 Hrm. 05:45:50 it does a context dump, and concludes with bork bork bork 05:45:51 alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork iirc 05:45:58 in newsgroups 05:46:01 What's "bork"? 05:46:06 swedish 05:46:08 BAH 05:46:09 it's what the swedish chef says 05:46:11 as chickens fly 05:46:12 Pfff 05:46:18 You watch too much TV :P 05:46:19 I heard chicken ? 05:46:21 Come over to Sweden :P 05:46:23 hahaha 05:46:24 nice 05:46:30 too see chickens? 05:46:37 flying? 05:46:41 dead? 05:46:43 fried? 05:46:44 ducking? 05:46:47 borking? 05:46:51 or girls? 05:46:52 sleeping? 05:47:08 or rob_ert, coward? 05:47:21 that it must be 05:47:27 come to sweedent to se cowarsd 05:48:18 anyone ever seen a good write up of how c++ exception handling is implemented by gcc? 05:49:54 uhh i guess someone must have done that... 05:50:04 not all gcc implementations can be bad 05:50:06 ;) 05:58:50 --- quit: alphakiller_away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:02:44 --- join: alphakiller (fernando@200227138227-dial-user-UOL.acessonet.com.br) joined #osdev 06:18:53 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.78) joined #osdev 06:20:51 --- join: eks (~eks@24.70.176.227) joined #osdev 06:21:23 hey eks 06:21:34 hey file :) 06:21:37 sup? 06:21:44 just awoke 06:21:51 u? 06:23:33 * file pokes eks 06:23:36 done the work on dragonboat website.. now working at some other commercial project 06:23:45 uh huh 06:23:48 how was Tetrinet lastnight? 06:23:59 nice.. until your server disconnected :( 06:24:14 mmm? 06:24:14 morning :) 06:24:16 er 06:24:18 afternoon* 06:24:19 hey oink 06:24:29 hahahaha 06:24:30 oink: you know.. those 18MB made me wonder... 06:24:31 scanline killed it 06:24:40 ahah 06:24:46 oink: did you meet personally all those women? and... did you sleep with them? 06:24:47 ;) 06:24:50 it's back up now 06:24:54 :PPPP 06:25:02 btw.. if you do have all their names and phone number, please feel free to share >:} 06:25:05 nah, was just a collection 06:25:21 ahh... too bad 06:25:27 :P 06:25:35 some are nice ladies in there 06:25:40 sure 06:25:44 most look like party chicks :) 06:25:49 :)) 06:26:38 * file hums 06:26:52 heh 06:26:54 what about simics ? 06:26:57 * eks goes to do some more database design 06:27:00 huh ? 06:27:23 women ? 06:27:30 gab ? :) 06:27:38 oink: haven't really gave it a try yet, I had quite the busy night yesterday, file managed to grab the only hour I had to myself and make me invest it in some tetrinet :p 06:27:48 kay :) 06:27:57 gab: huh.. you know.. the kinda weird creatures that we can't really live with but can't live without? 06:28:18 * file is bored 06:28:27 :)) 06:28:34 hmm yeah those one 06:28:34 file: want something to work on ? 06:28:40 really complicated 06:28:42 oink: no I have something 06:28:53 oink: you don't know file.. ehehe, he just doesn't work :p 06:28:56 but I'm just waiting for Citygear to fax me back... 06:29:05 the second biggest mystery of the universe after space-time 06:29:07 bah:P 06:29:11 I need food! 06:29:33 * oink feeds file with /dev/urandom 06:29:39 junkfood! 06:30:01 * file is glad he symlinked /dev/urandom to /boot/vmlinuz 06:30:31 aww... 06:30:51 I symlinked /boot/vmlinuz to /dev/urandom last time :( 06:30:52 so 06:30:54 uhm 06:31:10 * file thinks 06:31:14 Too many levels of symbolic links. 06:31:14 confusing. 06:31:21 this is what you will get. 06:33:40 mmm 06:33:42 chocolate donuts 06:34:08 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp79707.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 06:34:18 hi wossname 06:34:21 --- join: lodda (lodda@p508FF008.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 06:34:23 * file offers oink some Sunny Delight 06:34:25 lodda! 06:34:37 good morning 06:35:17 baohoabouh 06:35:22 w0osname! 06:35:42 0iik 06:35:45 hi 06:35:50 i installed 06:35:51 uh oh, the sunny delight's gotten to him 06:36:08 gtetrinet! 06:36:23 libranet succesfully, i just habve to configurate pppoe 06:38:11 ok going off again to libranet and looking tv 06:38:14 --- quit: lodda (Client Quit) 06:40:35 --- quit: alphakiller (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06:45:54 --- quit: ava (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:46:02 eks? 06:48:10 --- join: SLACKo (~SLACKo@65.199.129.108) joined #osdev 06:48:15 hi SALCKo 06:49:20 --- join: ava (~d@chcgil2-ar6-4-47-169-191.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #osdev 06:50:02 --- join: slime (~slime@h77n2fls32o858.telia.com) joined #osdev 06:50:07 --------------8<------------- 06:50:10 new order begins 06:50:54 hey file 06:51:15 --- join: kemu (~Jonas@adsl-64026.turboline.skynet.be) joined #osdev 06:55:14 * file pokes people 06:55:18 curses I need to wake my brother 06:56:00 install ncurses 06:56:02 :) 07:02:24 file: ? 07:02:26 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 07:02:46 anyone heard of gtkam? 07:02:55 --- quit: eirikn ("Reconnecting") 07:04:26 --- join: eirikn (eirik@2001:470:1f00:392:0:0:0:4) joined #osdev 07:04:28 --- quit: berk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:04:36 oh bers here 07:04:44 food 07:06:43 I haven't a clue what my brother's note says 07:06:55 c11ownd? 07:07:01 clland? 07:07:26 "Wake me up at c11and 12.30 please" 07:07:43 Wake me up at 11 and 12.30 please? 07:10:30 it was: "Make me up at around 12.30 please" 07:23:03 hallo 07:23:07 Hej. 07:23:16 How are you, little indigo? 07:23:26 sehr gut 07:24:09 --- quit: ava (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:25:26 --- join: root (~root@p508FDD96.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 07:25:30 hi 07:25:35 hi 07:25:45 i installed libranet succesfully 07:25:53 --- nick: root -> lodda 07:26:04 and got pppoe 07:26:09 uh huh 07:26:35 and sound, what i didnt got in suse 07:26:44 its nice 07:26:50 good 07:27:10 who wants to play tetrinet? 07:27:26 but the german kezboard layout isnt in it 07:27:28 indigo: I can't.. I'm at work :/ 07:27:33 keyboard 07:27:41 :( 07:28:44 what about you lodda? 07:28:47 how about some Tetrinet? 07:29:05 hmm..i have never played it 07:29:16 is it tetris for 2 persons? 07:29:23 i got keyboard :) 07:29:33 it supports up to 6 including yourself 07:29:43 you also have special blocks to make the game social 07:29:47 to attack other people :) 07:29:53 hmm..i look if it is installed 07:30:11 i wanna play jezzball 07:30:17 by now, i love it 07:30:26 you'll get addicted to Tetrinet 07:30:32 indigo : still there? 07:30:39 ja 07:30:59 navi.picogui.org 07:32:08 file: can i chat with tetrinet? 07:32:12 yes 07:32:28 in it's Partyline, and during the game 07:32:59 and where do i've to login? 07:33:11 huh? 07:33:25 the server address is navi.picogui.org 07:33:27 i mean it is a netgame 07:33:27 choose your own nickname 07:33:31 ahso 07:33:52 --- nick: indigo -> indigo_tetrinet 07:34:09 teamname? 07:34:18 no teams 07:34:32 unless you want your own team 07:34:42 * indigo_tetrinet has a team of "bright colors" 07:49:52 hmm..what should i do know.......icq 07:50:31 download gaim and knapster 07:51:52 hmm..i'm away for 2 minutes 07:52:21 hmm..i'm still here and i'll stay 07:59:13 tetrinet! 07:59:45 anybody up for some? 08:00:37 already playing 08:00:41 navi.picogui.org 08:00:44 hm 08:00:55 any console clients ? 08:01:01 oink: I think 08:01:18 * oink looks 08:03:12 indigo_tetrinet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08:05:51 --- join: ava (~d@chcgil2-ar6-4-47-169-191.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #osdev 08:07:57 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:12:35 i'm off for short 08:12:43 --- part: lodda left #osdev 08:12:46 root? 08:12:48 :)) 08:13:36 lol@lodda 08:13:54 :)) 08:17:00 --- join: lodda (~lodda@p508FDD96.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 08:17:04 wb 08:17:08 whz am i banned in \zpn 08:17:19 #ypn 08:17:19 lodda: you irc'd as root :P 08:17:29 no 08:17:33 10:13 -!- lodda [~root@p508FDD96.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #osdev [] 08:17:40 you CAN change ident, eks lil 08:17:53 im in now as normal user 08:17:54 mur: yeah, but it's not bright to use 'root' as ident ;) 08:18:02 lodda: yeah, now you are, you were not 08:18:16 ah 08:18:30 im banned because im not root 08:18:36 lol 08:18:39 --- nick: lodda -> phemo 08:18:44 rotfl 08:18:55 softy is written pehmo, lodda! 08:18:57 --- nick: phemo -> lodda 08:18:57 you have typo! 08:19:32 hmm..iceWM is annozing me 08:20:37 annoying me 08:20:46 hmm..kezboard 08:20:52 keyboard 08:22:31 ok i have to go off, my sister GRRRRRR 08:22:42 --- quit: lodda ("Client Exiting") 08:22:53 file: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08:23:21 omg 08:27:22 hrm.. I think file just won a game.. 08:27:48 heh 08:32:26 pfft 08:32:27 nah 08:33:21 --- nick: indigo_tetrinet -> indigo 08:37:59 --- quit: eirikn (Remote closed the connection) 08:43:54 --- join: mur` (jukka@baana-62-165-184-247.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 08:45:11 --- quit: Rico ("dsfhshs gd jfgjasjfsakjfs afhsk gjlasghgh fkd hgdsfjgaf sdkdafgj dak jhsadgfh sdgs dahgasf gksjfasf sajkgjsafh kqwlhflsdjabau) 08:45:20 --- join: Rico (Rico@node-c-1c6a.a2000.nl) joined #osdev 08:50:01 --- quit: ctk|asmnewbie ("Client Exiting") 08:52:28 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:54:30 --- nick: mur` -> mur 08:56:40 --- quit: kemu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:01:33 --- join: I440r (~mark4@1Cust114.tnt2.bloomington.in.da.uu.net) joined #osdev 09:04:54 --- join: Gazza_ (~Gazza@earthforce.freeserve.co.uk) joined #osdev 09:05:03 --- part: Gazza_ left #osdev 09:09:21 --- join: miro (~miro@pD9559277.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:11:28 miro again 09:11:34 hehe 09:11:34 is it even updated version? 09:16:24 --- join: eirikn (eirik@2001:470:1f00:392:0:0:0:4) joined #osdev 09:17:32 ipv6! 09:19:16 --- nick: indigo -> indigo_lunch 09:27:12 --- join: tielian (~tielian@61.188.244.72) joined #osdev 09:30:20 pom pom. 09:31:42 :D 09:33:59 --- join: lodda (~lodda@p508FC92E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:34:31 back 09:34:58 hallöle 09:35:14 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 09:35:19 hmmm..ich kuck fernsehen 09:40:25 * file is back 09:43:22 hmm..tell me good internet games 09:44:47 ping 09:45:03 ping? 09:45:08 pong? 09:45:38 i pinged u, mur 09:45:38 PoNg 09:46:42 hmm...free good games (not tetris or like this) 09:46:49 --- join: caereth (~caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 09:48:02 --- quit: Javanx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:49:26 --- join: nonama (nx@c185.parabole.lt) joined #osdev 09:49:34 --- part: caereth left #osdev 09:50:17 --- join: caereth (~caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 09:52:34 lodda telnet? 09:56:06 --- quit: tielian (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10:02:47 --- quit: lodda ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1") 10:03:26 --- nick: indigo_lunch -> indigo 10:24:09 --- quit: wossname ("well, here goes nothing") 10:27:17 --- quit: nonama ("Client Exiting") 10:30:40 --- join: Chillyspy (ChillySpy@ppp169.ppp4.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 10:33:25 --- quit: Chillyspy (Client Quit) 10:40:18 where is everyone??? 10:40:35 eks: we will get unununium.oftc.net :) 10:40:59 * Rico looks around 10:41:24 * miro humps Rico 10:41:29 I think #osdev has his yearly red-light-district visit... 10:41:31 * miro runs 10:41:38 * Rico bumps 10:41:54 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:43:39 --- join: geist (~geist@tkgeisel.com) joined #osdev 10:43:56 hey Michael! 10:44:05 Rico? 10:44:15 I just bought a new Roemer 10:44:22 * Rico roems all over the place :D 10:44:33 haha 10:44:42 don't abuse my last name bish! 10:45:13 I'm not abusing it, I'm honoring it! 10:45:21 o 10:45:22 h 10:45:54 ain't you happy? 10:46:11 yeah 10:54:49 --- quit: SLACKo ("Client Exiting") 10:58:03 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.78) joined #osdev 10:58:40 --- quit: Stalky ("http://www.echosproject.org") 10:58:51 --- quit: miro (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:00:29 --- join: kemu (~Jonas@80-200-41-165.adsl.powered-by.skynet.be) joined #osdev 11:09:53 so.................. 11:10:00 anyone up for a game of tetrinet? 11:10:13 * indigo is addicted 11:10:29 uhmm indigo I would 11:10:38 but I don't think it runs under linux 11:10:56 it runs only under linux afaik 11:11:01 gtetrinet 11:11:02 huh ?? 11:11:10 I know a tetrinet only for windows 11:11:14 where can I find it 11:11:17 I wanne beat you 11:11:23 apt-get install gtetrinet 11:11:30 gtetranet even 11:11:34 eoauhroahu 11:11:38 well, you know how to spell it :) 11:11:45 or search google 11:12:19 http://www.tetrinet.org/ 11:12:20 ? 11:12:21 but we are going to need a server... 11:12:53 can you setup your own server ? 11:13:12 probally... 11:13:13 then I'll play server btw => I need to install it first 11:14:12 brb, phone 11:15:51 grr 11:15:53 phones are evil 11:16:23 --- join: miro (~miro@pD9559277.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 11:17:06 I'm compiling it 11:17:08 In file included from main.c:32: 11:17:08 crack.c:418:3: warning: no newline at end of file 11:18:23 what kind of crapo distro are you running? 11:19:14 [tetrinetx-1.13.16+qirc-1.26a.tar.gz] by Bundaberg and Drslum 11:19:39 oxonet.com is the server when you get it 11:20:17 yeah but indigo where did you download your version ?? 11:20:18 --- nick: indigo -> indigo_tetrinet 11:20:21 apt-get 11:20:26 use google 11:22:01 --- join: Chillyspy (ChillySpy@ppp169.ppp4.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 11:22:04 re re 11:22:17 hi mur 11:25:18 --- quit: Chillyspy (Client Quit) 11:37:11 --- join: bono22 (~bono@modemcable002.177-202-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 11:40:54 Alors comment vont mes cousins de france?? 11:41:20 un peux 11:41:28 petite peux :D 11:44:37 peu* 11:44:38 :P 11:45:19 petite? 11:45:44 je croyais que peu etait utilise au masculin.. 11:45:49 vous avez vu comment les allemands apprennent le francais ? .. c'est miserable. 11:45:53 :))) 11:46:00 hehe vous parlez francais 11:46:05 qui habite en france ? 11:46:12 oink ;) 11:46:31 * eks vient du Quebec/Canada et habite au Manitoba/Canada 11:46:32 moi :) 11:46:37 eks: simics ! simics ! 11:46:43 oink ! oink ! 11:46:53 asdkasdcjn 11:46:58 francais est un language idiot 11:46:58 j'ai CRACHE MON COKE 11:47:04 a cause de toi 11:47:08 oink: lol 11:47:10 j'en ai plein sur le clavier maintenant 11:47:19 lmao 11:47:25 you are too easy to make laugh 11:47:35 kemu: mais non 11:47:44 kemu: le francais est une belle langue literaire 11:48:01 ca m'a surpris, du coup ca m'a fait rire 11:48:05 (en changeant de window) 11:48:16 en spreekt hier iemand ook nederlands ? 11:48:17 :p 11:48:22 awww 11:49:11 --- join: Chillyspy (ChillySpy@ppp169.ppp4.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 11:49:11 that was dutch 11:49:23 oink: j'espere que tu vas etre capable de netoyer ce clavier ;) 11:49:36 this is not a question. 11:49:36 this is not a question. 11:49:37 this is not a question. 11:49:37 this is not a question. 11:49:37 this is not a question. 11:49:38 this is not a question. 11:49:44 what's wrong bono22 11:49:59 kemu: I think bono got the up arrow and enter key stuck.. 11:50:03 http://bespin.org/~qz/irc/2002-06-June.html --> Is bono22 stupid or just asking too many questions? 46.6% lines contained a question! 11:50:16 Trying to lower my percentage!! 11:50:30 eks: ca va je commence a etre habite now. je plonge les touches de mes claviers dans une bassinne et je nettoie 11:51:14 oink: il semble que ce n'est pas la premiere fois que tu craches ton coke sur ton clavier :PP 11:51:22 noise 11:51:23 --- part: geist left #osdev 11:51:30 non 11:51:30 le pire 11:51:32 c'etait une foix 11:51:37 je me suis endormit completement sur mon clavier 11:51:37 et 11:51:40 lol@geist 11:51:44 j'ai fait tomber toute la canette dessus 11:51:53 resultat ... j'ai change de clavier 11:51:57 ahah 11:52:08 boire et dormir == dangereux ;) 11:52:11 oui 11:52:12 :) 11:54:09 --- join: lodda (~lodda@p508FC8C7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 11:54:22 eks: where're you atm ? 11:54:25 home or work ? 11:54:37 hi 11:54:44 hihi 11:55:04 rob_ert: u use netBSD? 11:55:39 first, when you write it using some uppercase letters, please do it as NetBSD and not netBSD, then yes afaik he use netbsd :) 11:56:04 same for FreeBSD and OpenBSD 11:56:27 NetBSD sounds enormuos shitty (same for freeBSD and openBSD) 11:56:37 don't use it then. 11:56:38 oink: work 11:56:42 eks: bahabhabah 11:56:48 when will you be back ? 11:56:51 oink: for yet 3 more hours 11:56:56 grmpf 11:57:00 tell me when you try simics :) 11:57:06 oki 11:57:13 aww! 11:57:21 --- quit: Javanx ("I don't feel a thing, and i stopped remembering. The days are just like moments tourned to hours") 11:57:29 a De Funes movie on TF1 :) 11:57:30 hmm..internet games........ 12:00:37 tell me some for linux, which are free and not brute 12:01:00 not brute? 12:01:04 yes 12:01:22 nicht brutal, ohne gewalt to say it in german 12:02:09 hehe, well, i don't know how an OS is when its brute ;) 12:02:45 hmm..i mean the games, they should be "nice" 12:03:34 --- join: bpj (~jaszcz@cerne.EECS.CWRU.Edu) joined #osdev 12:03:56 yello 12:04:00 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 12:04:10 i dunno, i use Debian and im happy with it 12:04:56 i mean internet games, not the OS !!! 12:05:13 oo 12:05:32 aha, non-violent games? 12:08:06 yes 12:08:12 but internet games 12:08:23 k, and what kind of games? 12:09:06 hmm..maybe role-games or strategy 12:09:24 or like Civilazation 12:09:53 freeciv then? 12:10:20 --- quit: Chillyspy () 12:10:21 caereth: freeciv does it look like civilization for windows ? 12:10:21 hmm..i haven't installed it, i think 12:10:29 or is it just a crapy version of it 12:10:42 kemu: actually i don't know what it looks like 12:10:51 well I'm gonna find out now 12:10:58 do u all use athlons? 12:11:06 i do 12:11:10 yes me 2 12:11:12 Intel, only. 12:11:24 intel, but i like both 12:11:32 athlons eating power 12:11:58 LYNX!!! 12:12:02 oh no there 12:12:07 where have he gone? :P 12:12:13 http://www.freeciv.org/screenshots/1.7.1/client_hmm.jpeg 12:12:17 crapy 12:12:19 --- join: kupak (~vacsda@195.228.89.33) joined #osdev 12:12:24 hi all ! 12:12:42 I'm looking for a nice looking game for linux 12:12:50 heh 12:12:54 xbill is da rula game 12:12:58 Quake 3, with all his mods. 12:13:09 (Reaction quake3, urbanterror, freeze tag) 12:13:13 (and others) 12:14:09 where is pavlovskii, haven't seen him for a while 12:14:22 oink: gcc is online on oftc :) 12:14:28 miro: talked to him, thanks :) 12:14:34 oh :) 12:15:21 http://legacy.newdoom.com/ yeah I know what I'm gonna play tonight 12:15:45 --- join: lodda_ (~lodda@p508FC8C7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 12:15:49 hey 12:16:14 hah..version me 12:17:19 yeah lodda_ so ? 12:17:23 you are un linux with xchat 12:17:25 k now what? 12:17:44 1.8 Ghz 12:17:53 ? 12:17:55 ? 12:18:03 uhm yeah ? I have 1.7 Ghz nothing special 12:18:03 you all have less :P 12:18:10 I'm close :p 12:18:15 how much ram ? 12:18:18 * mur runs now 166 :D 12:18:19 and type of ram ? 12:18:26 who cares ? 12:18:30 and i am much more useful than you! 12:18:31 me :p 12:18:31 har har 12:18:41 hmm..256mb Oo. 12:18:49 512 ddr 12:18:52 beat ya 12:19:05 mur: bah 12:19:37 I started writing an osdev newbie startup guide for those who are having trouble starting... Would you mind taking a look and giving me a feedbacK? http://www.info.polymtl.ca/~bono/osdnhq.txt 12:19:40 do'h miro has 2Ghz 12:19:52 bono22: I'll look at it 12:19:56 --- part: lodda left #osdev 12:20:00 bono22: i tried getting there earlier but can't get there 12:20:06 kemu-> thanks 12:20:08 yeah i'll, too 12:20:15 lodda_? 12:20:19 compared to usefulness i have 200 GHz! 12:20:20 :P 12:20:24 HAHA 12:20:28 thanks he's gone (: 12:20:41 caereth-> with the address on alt.os.development? 12:20:46 thanks guys... 12:20:47 --- nick: lodda_ -> lodda 12:20:50 bono22: yup, i found it there 12:20:59 caereth-> can you get there now? 12:21:05 bono22: no i cannot 12:21:09 oink: did you mean me? 12:21:15 lodda: no, god. 12:21:46 lodda: Yes, I use NetBSD. 12:22:01 kemu, lodda-> can you access the doc? 12:22:12 i read it 12:22:12 yes 12:22:31 send it to me over here? 12:22:32 but i there is missing a basic kernel 12:22:35 caereth-> weird... what browser? 12:22:44 bono22: Opera 6.0 12:23:10 * lodda uses galeon and for this konquerer 12:23:40 why the fuck do use a comercial browser? 12:24:37 the same reason you have get yourself "too fast" processor.. of speed you never will need 12:24:57 ahh..it should give a hint how to use GRUB 12:25:02 --- quit: bpj ("Leaving") 12:25:15 i need for chatting ;) 12:25:23 it wasn't expensive 12:25:55 and what's if i'd say i wanna play QUAKE III Arena 12:26:41 damn I hate opera 12:27:15 kemu: how come? its the best i know right now 12:27:28 mozilla 12:27:35 that's the best in my opinion 12:27:51 kemu, mozilla is all too bloated for me, need a comp like yours for it ;) 12:28:32 well I'm on a 15" screen (hate it) and when I run opera it's all to small for me 12:29:07 i agree... There were some pages I couldnt egt to load with Opera... And netscape keeps making this annoying nsmail/ directory! 12:29:10 kemu, huh? its not smaller than any other browser 12:29:18 Mozilla is the one i prefer... 12:29:31 and I think opera is waaaaaaaaaaaay to slow 12:29:45 netscape, 4.7x really sucks, don't get much CSS right or anything, but 6.x works nicely, but its based on mozilla anyway 12:29:45 I laugh with them the fasted browser on eart 12:29:49 are they ironic or what 12:29:55 caereth-> the advertising eats up space... 12:30:10 bono22: i just have one tiny banner 12:30:32 caereth-> theres none on mozilla! ;) 12:30:45 hehe 12:31:14 is it possible to write your os kernel in python ? 12:31:26 caereth-> its also a personal thing... I dont accept being the object or advertising while Im sitting at my desk... Theyre insulting my intelligence! (-Al Pacino ;-) 12:31:29 hmm..icq2go doesn't start.... 12:32:03 caereth-> never done it since i installed the firewall... just a sec 12:37:29 --- quit: eirikn (":") 12:41:18 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s91.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 12:41:52 hi kurt 12:41:54 kemu, lodda -> read the doc? 12:42:02 yes 12:42:10 not the whole, i looked about it 12:42:18 think it's gonne be pretty usefull only add more stuff like on grub 12:42:25 don't redirect them to other pages 12:43:34 --- quit: gab (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:44:28 caereth -> I agree. Its still incomplete. But what should me the main addons? 12:44:33 hmms.. 12:45:00 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 12:45:01 well, you should do whats on that todo list ;) 12:45:18 initial decisions is something i'd need, like design desicions 12:45:41 caereth have an OS ? 12:45:47 caereth -> Im at that step myself! Dont really know where to start! ;) 12:45:49 wouldn't call it OS yet 12:46:06 caereth -> Maybe kemu could help us! ;) 12:46:07 have screens or homepage ? 12:46:20 im at multitasking now, but not being able to use bochs doesn't help me much 12:46:34 why can't you use bochs ? 12:46:34 caereth -> why cant you use it? 12:46:38 hehe 12:46:43 it doesn't give me any interrupts 12:46:51 get an old pc 12:46:53 works on every computer ive tried 12:47:00 caereth -> you have the cvs version? 12:47:04 kemu: i used to test it on my old pc, but now its a gateway ;) 12:47:09 bono22: not right now 12:47:30 doesn't it work on that pc bochs ? 12:47:51 it's annoying. i need a good working icq client 12:47:58 gaim I use 12:47:59 lodda, gnomeICU 12:48:10 hmm...i've tried 12:48:23 you have many gaim is the best in my opinion 12:48:27 i wonder when all icq clients are going to upgrade to that new system, with contact lists on server and all that 12:48:40 kemu: gaim's icq sypport sucks 12:48:48 support rather 12:48:51 why ? 12:48:51 i'll try use Java version 12:49:06 no I wish icq would bring out a version for linux 12:49:11 kemu, well, firstly it doesn't get my contact list from the server ;) i don't want to make a new one 12:49:48 hehe well I made a new one saved it and whenever I'm on an other pc I just download it and insert my list and there you go :) 12:49:49 hmm..that's the problem with all clients :/ 12:49:57 --- nick: indigo_tetrinet -> indigo 12:50:08 and I only have one client cause I'm on msn to 12:50:23 msn, bah 12:50:37 yeah I know but that's the only thing where my girl is smart enough for 12:51:00 why do you insult ur girl? 12:51:21 why don't she use icq or irc? 12:51:26 I don't insult her I even tell that in her face it's just a way of joking 12:51:38 aha 12:51:40 well icq she had but lost it 12:51:52 irc well she don't get how it works 12:52:00 and do install her windows again and again? 12:52:05 and she actually doens't care she just want's to chat on msn 12:52:25 cause everyone has msn where I live 12:52:35 hmm..where do you live? 12:52:47 Ive got a basic C-written 'hello-world' type of kernel up and running... I wanna know: what is the next step? What design decisions do I have to make? Should I interface the keyboard first? Setup a minimal memory manager unit? Anybody could share his thoughts on this? 12:52:50 i never looked up where the people live? 12:52:52 sometimes when I arrive at school they are talking about hye pretty fun on msn last night 12:52:55 Belgium 12:53:09 hehe 12:53:13 Montreal, Canada 12:53:15 people think a pc is windows and msn 12:53:19 hmm..i'm at the same thing 12:53:37 (to bono) 12:53:41 bono22, what i did was to fix better screen output, like scrolling 12:53:51 lodda-> oh... wasnt sure! :) 12:53:53 I find it stupid to talk with people you see everyday 12:54:38 caereth-> you keep a buffer you can look back on and all that? 12:54:44 i looked after memory managment (i'm trying to look after) and basic-tasking 12:54:47 * kemu asks his question again if anyone knows something about writing a kernel in python 12:55:10 bono22: i don't but scrolling back would be nice 12:55:10 kemu ?!?! 12:55:18 bono22: its something i have planned on fixing 12:55:21 yeah you can write a kernel in java 12:55:24 why not in python 12:55:27 I like pythno 12:55:33 in java :) 12:55:37 pythno 12:55:54 i have to go my windoze-sister 12:55:57 yeah java an OS for mental disabled people 12:56:08 else it would be to fast 12:56:31 --- quit: lodda ("my sister want to go to windows(kemu hehe)") 12:56:54 * kemu going to programme a bit more in php 12:56:59 --- nick: kemu -> kemu|work 12:57:03 grr, why does bochs give me one keyboard interrupt and one timer interrupt, and then just stops doing it 12:57:20 same problem in 1.3 1.4 1.4.1 and cvs version 13:03:41 let's play tetrinet! 13:04:00 or bzflag! 13:04:04 * indigo plays bzflag 13:05:33 grr 13:05:36 --- nick: indigo -> indigo_bzflag 13:05:42 * bono22 asks his question again... What initial design decicions does a 'hello world' kernel owner has to make? MM? Tasks? Interrupts? 13:11:18 --- nick: bono22 -> bono22_away 13:11:54 --- join: lynx (~lynx@pD9544264.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 13:13:19 --- quit: I440r ("Reality Strikes Again") 13:15:27 grr, it works in bochs on my sisters windows box 13:18:09 --- join: osmaker (~anonymous@evrtwa1-ar13-4-62-068-189.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) joined #osdev 13:18:38 humph 13:18:41 --- nick: indigo_bzflag -> indigo 13:22:41 --- nick: osmaker -> osmaker|bbl 13:23:55 --- nick: lynx -> lynxAllyMcBeal 13:24:26 huh 13:24:28 mur ? 13:24:31 what do you want to say? 13:26:26 i wish i'd remember 13:26:28 :) 13:26:33 got your iBOok? 13:26:46 NO 13:26:52 will never get it 13:26:55 why? 13:27:12 i told that story MANY times 13:27:33 --- nick: Zenton -> Zenton__ 13:28:13 one time to few 13:28:25 the same old? 13:28:28 or.. 13:28:37 .. 13:28:45 ..= 13:28:46 ? 13:28:48 i am not allowe dto pay per month for it since i have no jopb 13:28:49 END 13:28:54 oh 13:29:02 bah 13:34:58 --- join: Chillyspy (ChillySpy@ppp169.ppp4.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 13:35:10 --- quit: indigo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:36:54 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by rear") 13:39:26 hello... anyone 13:39:29 hello 13:39:53 do you have a project? 13:40:06 little one yes :-p 13:40:31 ??... care to elaborate? 13:40:31 --- quit: mur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:40:40 --- quit: bono22_away ("using sirc version 2.211+ssfe") 13:40:49 well, why do you ask? 13:41:00 cause im bored as hell 13:41:22 well, i have to reboot and test something.. brb 13:41:22 --- quit: caereth (Remote closed the connection) 13:44:15 --- join: caereth (~caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 13:45:10 ok 13:46:08 --- join: witten (~witten@sdsl-64-32-131-193.dsl.lax.megapath.net) joined #osdev 13:46:31 . 13:46:38 HAHAHAHAH 13:46:49 * caereth blinks 13:46:54 I just got php cvs commit access! I'm gonna upload perl! 13:47:14 heh 13:47:33 caereth - you there? 13:47:38 Chillyspy: indeed 13:48:02 you want to share you "little project"... or is it off-limits 13:48:28 Chillyspy, well, i won't release it yet 13:49:15 well whats it about? 13:49:41 ich muss noch essen 13:50:11 Chillyspy, a little kernel 13:50:41 in asm, c, C++ 13:50:52 c++, and ofcourse a little bit of asm 13:53:23 yeah.. C++ 13:53:37 any goals or interesting things?? 13:54:03 well, not really, just a little hobby project, been programming for quite some time and stumbled over os development 13:54:54 yeah me too... 13:55:09 ive been doing it since i was 12 or 13... and im 16 now 13:55:26 neat 13:55:49 i don't remember when i started, somewhere around there, but I had some big breaks from it too, 13:55:55 Chillyspy: you learn by yourself or in school ? 13:56:13 technically both... but basically self taugh 13:56:18 taught* 13:56:41 ive taken some classes, but they just reinforce what i've already learnt 13:57:04 classes on ? 13:57:14 vb, C++ 13:58:25 --- join: bono22 (~bono@modemcable002.177-202-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 13:58:34 --- quit: Chillyspy (Excess Flood) 13:58:57 --- join: Chillyspy (ChillySpy@ppp169.ppp4.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 14:00:06 why oh why don't i get any interrupts from bochs :-P 14:00:32 hmm 14:00:34 hehe 14:00:43 have you read any books caereth 14:00:52 Chillyspy, on what? 14:00:58 osdev 14:01:03 no 14:01:07 who was asking about me taking programming classes? 14:01:58 me 14:02:12 caereth-> what was the os design concept your first implemented in your os? 14:02:20 Chillyspy: there aren't any good books on osdev or they are old 14:03:00 kemu - there are a couple... Tanenbaum has written a few good ones (he wrote minix) 14:03:23 there is another that i havn't read... called Writting Your Own 32-bit Operating SYstem (its out of print, but might be available) 14:03:39 Chillyspy-> I have that one... 14:03:39 yeah I know those books 14:03:41 bono22, i have no clue what's best to start with, but i think i did the exceptions and interrupts 14:03:46 bono22: is it anygood 14:04:11 bono22 - can i buy it for 10$ ?? hehe 14:04:24 or have a scanner :p 14:04:32 Chillyspy-> Youre referring to "Developing your own 32 bit OS" by Richard Burgess? 14:04:41 bono22 - yes 14:05:04 kemu - there is a PDF version for sale (for like $30) which is pretty cheap... and is the same thing 14:05:24 I don't wanne pay for a PDF version :p 14:05:43 if I spend money on a book I want a real one 14:05:52 ithas the source and everything tho 14:05:59 Chillyspy-> I was not convinced by this book, though i have hot had the time to read it all... 14:06:04 the real book is like $70 to $100 (depending) 14:06:16 Chillyspy-> which one? 14:06:18 bono22 - alot of people say its good 14:06:20 uhmm I cound in euro's 14:06:33 bono22 - Developing your own 32 bit OS 14:06:41 kemu - i live in US ... i dont know 14:07:23 damn are you out of luck 14:07:34 Chillyspy-> Thing is i wanted something to tell me how to start, to talk to me about bootloaders, entry points, protected mode, etc... It talks about it, but i was not convinced... 14:07:57 BTW, the good is now called "MMURTL v1.0" 14:08:04 well im reading Modern Operating Systems by Tanenbaum... not alot of code... but i think its pretty good 14:08:18 (Sensory Publishing) 14:08:36 brb 14:08:37 --- quit: bono22 ("using sirc version 2.211+ssfe") 14:09:46 --- join: bono22 (~bono@modemcable002.177-202-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 14:10:00 caereth - how is the system comming along? 14:10:16 ChillySpy-> Is Tanenbaums's "Moder Operating System" the one in which he presents minix? 14:10:17 Chillyspy, pretty bad, I can't stand doing it without Bochs 14:15:58 hey people, you know this site: http://toastytech.com/guis/ ? 14:16:11 yes 14:16:38 it's from a guy who's been here got it from him sometime ago 14:19:29 --- quit: Chillyspy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:22:17 --- join: Chillyspy (ChillySpy@ppp042.ppp1.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 14:22:32 sry about that 14:22:38 it looks great 14:22:54 oh man, I'm suddenly in love with guis :) 14:23:08 bono22 - no ... Tanenbaum presents linux in "Operating Sysetms: Desing and Implimentation" 14:23:25 who gave the link to that site... id like to check it out 14:25:26 anyone know of any good voice recognition software for linux? 14:28:17 --- join: DRF (~daniel@ldsas16-80-131-164.cw-visp.com) joined #osdev 14:29:50 eks, I wouldn't think you got anything more on that problem of mine, or do you? 14:30:45 caereth: no, in fact I haven't dug in that.. kinda forgot, and seriously I doubt I will, I'm just very very low on the motivational factor related to that issue 14:31:13 eks, I understand 14:31:15 w00t w00t 14:31:15 what is the problem caereth? 14:31:24 eks, I wonder why it works in windows 14:31:44 eks, must be something with my linux and the bochs version for linux 14:31:54 eks, do you love me? 14:32:06 Chillyspy, Bochs not giving me interrupts. 14:32:08 Rico: I love all of you 14:33:34 caereth - hmmm.... i dont know... not quite the bochs expert... AT ALL 14:33:49 the bochs channel seems pretty dead 14:34:00 caereth-> did you try bochs mailing list / irc channel? 14:34:32 w00t w00t 14:35:10 bono22, tried the channel, nobody alive 14:36:30 --- nick: lynxAllyMcBeal -> lynx 14:36:31 hrm 14:39:52 ok 14:39:56 cya girls 14:40:11 --- quit: lynx ("BitchX-1.0c19: just when you thought it couldn't get any better") 14:41:40 http://www.mylinks.fanspace.com/photo.html 14:41:45 :) 14:43:52 --- quit: miro ("hrm") 14:45:46 --- quit: Chillyspy () 14:48:34 --- quit: eks ("Time to fly home") 14:52:39 * EtherNet[sleeps] is back (gone 18:33:15) 14:52:41 --- nick: EtherNet[sleeps] -> EtherNet 14:56:39 --- join: FillerBunny (~nesboy@66.42.3.62) joined #osdev 14:56:45 Hi :) 14:56:52 Nice channel 14:56:56 i'll be comming back 14:56:59 after the format 14:57:04 :) 14:57:07 See you. 14:57:11 yup 14:57:35 --- join: Aardappel (~Aardappel@217.7.138.114) joined #osdev 14:57:36 FillerBunny: welcome ;) 14:59:38 thx 14:59:42 time to format... lates 15:00:44 FillerBunny: we wait you.. 15:01:39 :) 15:01:45 You wait my second comming 15:03:42 --- join: jace48 (~a@203.199.68.194) joined #osdev 15:06:14 --- quit: FillerBunny ("« Ë×Çü®§îöñ » Info«v9.21» Released«April 12, 2002» Channel«#Excursion on D") 15:10:38 caereth-> Burgess's kernel is mostly assembler... :( 15:11:05 bono22: what is that kernel ? 15:11:36 --- quit: DRF ("[x]chat") 15:12:13 --- quit: EtherNet (Remote closed the connection) 15:12:28 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.78) joined #osdev 15:15:34 ill be back later 15:15:35 --- quit: caereth (Remote closed the connection) 15:16:40 --- join: ctkrohn (~ctkrohn@ip68-100-176-44.nv.nv.cox.net) joined #osdev 15:25:19 --- quit: jace48 () 15:26:18 --- join: eks (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 15:26:49 hey guys 15:27:18 hey eks 15:27:23 wanna make love to me? 15:27:45 --- nick: kemu|work -> kemu|ZzzZzZZ 15:29:22 Rico: huhuh.. you sound like lynx.. 15:29:33 ;) 15:29:54 rob_ert: do you receive as many sexual offers a week than I? 15:30:35 00:26 < rob_ert> Stupid Nederlanders... :/ 15:30:36 00:26 < Rico> haha 15:30:36 00:26 < Rico> don't you love us? 15:30:36 00:26 < Rico> :'( 15:30:36 00:26 < rob_ert> Yes, I do! *hug* 15:30:38 00:26 < Rico> :'D 15:30:41 00:26 * Rico humps rob_ert 15:30:43 (One minute ago) 15:30:55 It's a lie!!1`~ 15:31:03 :D 15:31:06 ehehe 15:31:24 Rico: right, it's a lie, it was 3 minutes ago ;) 15:31:40 00:27 < rob_ert> 00:26 < rob_ert> Stupid Nederlanders... :/ 15:31:42 ... 15:31:46 --- join: caereth (~caereth@lgh022a.robackshus3.ac.se) joined #osdev 15:31:48 rob_ert forgets a part 15:31:48 [00:28] * Rico humps rob_ert 15:31:49 [00:29] * rob_ert screams out loud. 15:31:49 [00:29] * Rico swings with his 'organic' sword 15:31:52 27-26=3 o_O? :) 15:32:06 tja rob_ert 15:32:13 Hejsan, du. 15:32:40 rob_ert: your clock is wrong 15:33:01 BAH. 15:33:06 No, I'm always right. 15:33:09 mine is synched every 15 minutes some way I don't know how :) 15:33:21 humms, any of you know some nice task switching example? 15:34:14 * eks thinks that if more and more ppl keep coming with that task switching question he'll be forced to write a tutorial.. 15:34:31 eks: Write a tutorial. 15:34:33 people ask him! 15:34:35 caereth: imagine, I have an apple and a peer, I eat the apple, put it away for a moment, eat the peer, get the apple back, and start eating the apple again. 15:34:52 that's tast switching 15:35:25 it sucks to play with it for myself having to reboot for every try ;) 15:35:36 Rico: nah, that's fruit switching, the task is still the same, eating a fruit ;) 15:35:36 no bochs? 15:36:02 imagine, I have an apple, I eat the apple, put it away for a moment, puke, get the apple back, and start eating the apple again. 15:36:04 that better? 15:36:14 Rico: yeah 15:36:18 wh00t! :D 15:36:20 but seriously, eks, you should write a tutorial about it ;) 15:36:28 yeah, you really should! 15:36:45 Rico, thats right, no bochs for me, bochs doesnt like me 15:36:48 caereth: I'll keep that in mind, when I got some free time on my hand a weekend I might just do that 15:37:02 can't right now, too much stuff to do 15:38:16 Bah. 15:38:20 Bad excuse. 15:38:28 You just don't love us enough :( 15:39:43 ahah 15:40:36 * file grumbles 15:41:37 * Rico makes love to rob_ert 15:41:42 but I do! 15:43:00 file: I have 20 minutes before I have to go, let's play a game of tetrinet! 15:43:09 lol 15:43:10 eks: mmm I'm working... but alright 15:43:15 file: sweet 15:43:16 I play too :) 15:43:16 forms support for my web browser can wait 15:43:23 lemme get it first 15:43:29 crap is navi up 15:43:36 bbl 15:43:51 :/ 15:46:05 eks: server? 15:46:39 eks?... :'( 15:46:56 that was odd 15:46:57 Rico: navi.picogui.org.. but it's down :( 15:47:01 anyway 15:47:07 I'll put the server up on my system 15:47:20 yay! 15:47:23 --- join: zephir (~zephir@hltp-a-104.resnet.purdue.edu) joined #osdev 15:47:25 15minutes.. go go go! 15:47:29 ? 15:47:47 142.166.252.189 15:47:48 zephir: we are going to beat each other at tetris ;) 15:47:54 hehe 15:48:04 go easy on my system 15:48:39 easy? lol 15:48:48 dude i was checking out dark fiber's remap PIC code, and it has a function called io_wait() is that a noop, and what would be the asm instruction for that? 15:49:08 zephir: out 0x80, al 15:49:25 zephir: on the most unbalanced system you need to do only two of those 15:50:13 just one out byte? 15:50:57 --- join: nullify (nullify@pool-138-89-44-199.mad.east.verizon.net) joined #osdev 15:51:56 I HATE PEOPLE!!! 15:52:29 is it more efficient to do hardware or software task switching? 15:52:31 :) 15:53:52 nullify: depends on how much of the hardware protection mechanisms you are using 15:55:03 bah.. I don't like you guys anymore (file & Rico) 15:55:09 btw does anyone know much about casting a variable which is being assigned a value? 15:55:29 eks: so if i'm not using that much, the hardware version will be fine (?) 15:55:45 nullify: contrary, if you aren't using much software is much faster 15:56:03 eks: ok, thanks 15:57:20 trans: i'll try 15:57:34 trans: shoot 15:58:44 --- quit: eks ("time to go, have fun") 15:59:19 oooh 15:59:44 trans: ? 15:59:58 i have a void *buf which points to a char * array 16:00:20 --- join: darkito (darkito@62-37-199-26.dialup.uni2.es) joined #osdev 16:00:26 hi 16:00:29 --- join: EtherNet (~EtherNet@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 16:00:30 trans: so what causes the problem? 16:00:32 i want to assign a char to it buf[i] = char 16:00:45 o 16:00:48 it says void has no size 16:01:09 (char *)buf[i] = char doesn't work 16:01:13 --- part: EtherNet left #osdev 16:01:16 file? 16:02:27 trans: what about (char)buf[i] ? 16:03:15 nope 16:03:26 hm 16:03:57 trans: can you paste the char * array declaration? 16:04:21 ? 16:04:46 trans: is it like char *foo[]? 16:04:48 it is not in this file, a parameter is sent to this function 16:04:58 void *buf 16:05:21 o 16:05:28 i'm talking about the array you want buf to point to 16:05:55 it doesn't exist anywhere 16:06:20 the fuction prototype is effectively the same as fread/fwrite 16:06:41 oic 16:07:55 int input(struct device *dev, void *buf, void *size) 16:08:36 void has no size, unlike a char that has size 1 16:08:45 so if buf is void then you can't do buf[1] 16:09:00 i know that is what i am asking! 16:09:22 couldn't u just assign *buf = char then buf++? 16:09:40 ? 16:09:46 oh 16:09:53 or like this 16:10:00 *(buf + 1) = char 16:10:03 i suppose i will have to then 16:11:42 fsck!! I HATE C!!! 16:11:56 invalid pointer addition 16:12:05 i swear it is out to get me!! 16:12:11 heh 16:13:29 --- quit: zephir ("Client Exiting") 16:13:45 what is Lvalue? 16:14:05 left value 16:14:10 i think :-p 16:14:22 value to the left of =, hehe 16:15:48 why don't you just assign the void* to a char*? 16:17:16 arhgg... why don't i think of these things? :) 16:17:29 --- quit: Javanx (Remote closed the connection) 16:19:13 this should also work.. *((char*)buf + i) = foobar; 16:19:28 it "should" 16:19:31 =) 16:19:34 it does ;) 16:20:32 invalid pointer addition 16:20:43 have a nice day 16:20:44 =) 16:20:49 I really hate C 16:20:51 hehe, works here 16:21:52 with *((char*)buf + i) buf should be char* before the addition 16:23:24 * file hrms? 16:24:13 --- quit: muphicks ("night all") 16:27:34 so guys, what might cause a general protection error? 16:27:44 it occurs in my task-switching function 16:27:45 ctkrohn : on what? Windows? 16:27:49 oh... 16:29:29 its not exactly easy to debug an assembly function... 16:30:00 ctkrohn, i get that too :-P 16:30:03 --- quit: darkito ("Disconnecting") 16:30:04 --- quit: kupak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:31:42 so. any ideas? 16:35:15 --- join: puppy (puppy@roc-66-67-55-246.rochester.rr.com) joined #osdev 16:35:17 i think a GPF occurs when an app tries to access memory (or other storage medium) not designated for its use 16:35:21 --- part: puppy left #osdev 16:35:32 so like a segfault? 16:35:45 yeah 16:35:54 not 100% sure about that tho 16:36:21 hrm 16:40:20 gn all 16:41:53 ok 16:41:56 ctkrohn: in a pagefault (aka. segfault), the the requested memory page is not present 16:42:32 ctkrohn: in a general protection fault, the page is present, but is being accessed by code that shouldn't be trying to access it 16:42:44 if that helps at all =) 16:52:43 hrm 16:53:14 that doesn't seem right 16:53:21 I'm not accessing any pages 16:56:50 i believe many things can cause a GPF 16:56:56 --- join: EtherNet\AFK (~EtherNet@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 16:57:21 hrm, http://www.execpc.com/~geezer/osd/intr/index.htm says "possible in real mode if non-stack memory access straddles 0 or FFFFh, or if instruction is longer than 15 bytes, or if a 32-bit address greater than FFFFh is used" 16:57:30 but I could have sworn I 16:57:33 'm in pmode 16:57:35 gah 16:58:07 Grub switches you to pmode doesn't it? 16:58:14 * file spits on Gru 16:58:15 er Grub 16:58:32 hey, I figured I'd just use it rather than write my own freakin' bootloader 17:00:10 i figured i'd just use it rather than using some other crap ;) 17:01:39 erm 17:02:07 i mean that i figured writing my own rather than using something else 17:02:42 uhmm who was it again who liked to play tetrinet ? 17:02:57 ME 17:02:58 ME 17:02:58 ME 17:02:58 ME 17:03:01 ok 17:03:04 wanne play against me ? 17:03:11 I'll probably lose miserably 17:03:15 and it'll be a fun game 17:03:21 :) 17:03:25 I never played it :) 17:03:27 just intalled it 17:03:28 IP: 207.179.134.134 17:03:57 --- part: EtherNet\AFK left #osdev 17:04:01 --- quit: ctkrohn ("Client Exiting") 17:08:37 --- join: miro (miro@pD9559277.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 17:09:14 * file spits on Gru 17:09:14 er Grub 17:09:15 why's that? 17:10:43 --- quit: osmaker|bbl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:41:38 --- quit: ktherlgnk (Connection timed out) 17:47:30 --- quit: caereth ("Client Exiting") 17:57:14 --- part: nullify left #osdev 17:58:42 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:59:11 --- quit: witten ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.2 -- Are we there yet?") 18:00:12 --- join: ctkrohn (~ctkrohn@ip68-100-176-44.nv.nv.cox.net) joined #osdev 18:03:48 --- quit: miro (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:11:50 so, can anyone help a newbie fix a general protection exception problem? 18:25:59 --- join: FillerBunny (nesboy28@63.93.102.172) joined #osdev 18:32:33 --- join: trans (~trans@a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 18:40:51 --- join: vx`schlumpf_2 (~schlumpf@pD9E61626.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 18:41:33 --- quit: FillerBunny ("elkciN waz here :) later people...") 18:44:37 --- join: Raptor-32 (~rick@wpg-209-202-63-110.mts.net) joined #osdev 18:46:31 --- quit: vx`schlumpf (No route to host) 18:48:50 so, what is the equivalent of nasm's "global" keyword in AT&T syntax? 18:49:07 .globl i think 18:49:23 ja 18:49:25 thank you much 18:49:30 np 18:50:49 --- nick: ctkrohn -> ctk|frustrated 18:55:44 --- join: Magnus-swe (~Magnus-sw@h114n1fls32o823.telia.com) joined #osdev 19:02:22 --- join: indigo (~daboy@bgp01104776bgs.wbrmfd01.mi.comcast.net) joined #osdev 19:02:39 hej ehj 19:03:30 hey 19:03:44 who wanna play tetrinet?! 19:03:56 we just finished 19:03:59 gah! 19:04:00 --- nick: ctk|frustrated -> ctkrohn 19:04:10 I won once! 19:04:11 well, play again! 19:04:16 * indigo has won twice! 19:04:17 nah 19:04:20 :(( 19:04:20 soon going to bed 19:04:22 noo! 19:04:23 what is tetrinet? a multiplayer tetris game? 19:04:31 me too...just a few more! 19:04:32 ja 19:04:38 cool 19:04:45 is there a linux client? 19:04:47 some SkyriM_DBH guy is on there 19:04:50 gtetrinet 19:04:59 cool 19:05:08 * indigo was wondering if there was a linux tetrinet server 19:05:17 * ctkrohn has never played multiplayer tetris, except against the bot in xtris 19:05:24 indigo: it's what navi runs 19:05:32 well, what's it called? 19:05:38 tetrinet-server 19:05:38 lol 19:05:40 hum 19:05:54 it's not apt-getable :( 19:05:59 too bad 19:06:38 and this joshnet guy just joined and left 19:06:43 that was me :) 19:06:50 well, join again you dolt! 19:06:56 no :p 19:06:59 yes! 19:06:59 I'm soon going to bed 19:07:03 me too! 19:07:06 just a few games....... 19:07:10 must........have........................more!!!!!!! 19:07:20 you mind if I play? 19:07:20 don't make me join a server where the players are actually good :) 19:07:26 not at all... 19:07:30 go ahead and play 19:07:32 although we will have to get the moderator to wake up 19:07:33 k, lemme grab the client 19:07:58 wait...i'm moderator :) 19:08:24 * indigo waits impatiently 19:08:30 * ctkrohn does ./configure && make && make install 19:08:38 good luck! 19:08:46 heh 19:08:46 * indigo prays 19:09:17 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 19:09:19 okey 19:09:21 so its running 19:09:28 navi.picogui.org 19:09:28 what server do I connect to? 19:09:30 ah 19:10:08 --- part: Magnus-swe left #osdev 19:25:18 --- join: zephir (~zephir@hltp-a-104.resnet.purdue.edu) joined #osdev 19:25:37 how would i write a iowait function? 19:29:24 what the hell happened to the tetris server?! i was winning!! 19:30:20 --- quit: Raptor-32 ("BitchX: anything else would be uncivilized") 19:35:11 --- join: miro (~miro@pD9559277.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 19:36:44 --- join: FillerBunny (nesboy28@63.93.102.172) joined #osdev 19:37:34 --- join: eks (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 19:48:12 --- join: teeleeay (mathieu@24.157.217.69) joined #osdev 19:48:23 --- part: teeleeay left #osdev 19:49:55 --- quit: FillerBunny (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:50:56 * ctkrohn is outta here 19:51:00 --- nick: ctkrohn -> ctkrohn|away 19:52:52 --- join: Chillyspy (ChillySpy@ppp348.ppp8.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 19:57:46 how do you switch from character to bitmap mode? 19:59:58 --- join: FillerBunny (nesboy28@63.93.102.88) joined #osdev 20:00:34 hi 20:00:53 --- quit: slime ("leaving") 20:05:29 --- quit: zephir ("Vision[0.8.8-0506]: i've been blurred!") 20:15:56 --- quit: ava (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:18:29 --- join: ava (~d@chcgil2-ar6-4-47-169-191.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #osdev 20:19:54 hi ava 20:29:27 --- join: dj2 (~zero@CPE0000b4ab2572.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #osdev 20:32:19 --- join: Raptor-32 (~rick@wpg-209-202-63-48.mts.net) joined #osdev 20:36:09 Raptor-32: join tetrinet.org and try to play :p 20:36:18 they are totally crazy :p 20:36:53 eks : i was kicking ass on navi.picogui.org last game i was playing, then the server kicked us all off 20:37:14 what game 20:37:21 Chillyspy: tetrinet 20:38:11 heh 20:38:57 eks - you ever make a game 20:45:20 --- quit: Chillyspy () 20:59:14 --- quit: nbsp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:00:07 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 21:05:22 --- quit: dj2 (Remote closed the connection) 21:30:29 --- join: n_ (kdeljk@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #osdev 21:30:35 --- part: n_ left #osdev 21:31:04 --- join: n_ (kdeljk@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net) joined #osdev 21:31:25 --- quit: cookin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:32:42 --- join: ethernet (~Simpleirc@203.230.73.22) joined #osdev 21:35:48 hi 21:38:44 hey 21:47:42 what's up? 21:47:47 how's your baby alpha? :/ 21:49:15 54lbs baby... ;) 21:49:42 its doing good, awaiting an IDE controller so that i can put my new 60gig in there. 21:51:29 so it's all SCSI now? 21:51:51 ya 21:52:03 it has a slow drive, and its slowing it down. 21:52:19 gonna put the swap partition on the IDE drive, aswell as the /home dir 21:54:01 --- mode: ChanServ set +o air 21:54:25 --- mode: air set +b *!*@pcp01518417pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net 21:55:14 --- kick: n_ was kicked by air (bye) 21:55:18 --- mode: air set -o air 21:58:11 lol 21:58:38 air: what did he do this time to get banned? 21:59:00 talked. :P 21:59:09 he posted my nick and email on both of the opn petitions 21:59:21 opn petitions? 21:59:29 for and against lilo 21:59:35 lol 22:02:17 Raptor-32: join tetridome.com and let's play a game 22:02:39 eks: going to bed soon, some of us have to work toomorow. :P jk 22:02:46 Raptor-32: just one :) 22:04:01 eks : im there 22:04:49 choose an empty chan and tell me which one you got 22:04:54 chans?? 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