00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/02.08.19 00:00:50 Does AMD not send out hardcopies of their databooks? 00:01:14 they used to somewhere 00:02:49 --- quit: lar1 (Remote closed the connection) 00:35:40 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f19.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 00:35:51 heh all 00:36:30 --- quit: malenfant (Remote closed the connection) 00:42:34 --- quit: Holofix () 00:53:35 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:54:15 --- join: JJoSA (~JJoSA2002@radsl-bady-03.phx.primenet.com) joined #osdev 01:09:02 --- quit: JJoSA () 01:23:39 * air is having second thoughts about his new "brix for dummies" page 01:32:45 --- quit: stormbind (Connection timed out) 01:32:52 --- join: stormbind (~stormbind@pD9E61224.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 01:32:59 --- quit: witten ("bye") 01:37:11 --- part: ree left #osdev 02:03:22 --- join: trans (~trans@216.113.201.215) joined #osdev 02:08:40 --- quit: Mathis ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 02:16:14 hrm 02:19:41 yes hrm 02:20:00 how am i still receiving 300+ hits per hour 02:21:02 --- quit: BrightDude (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:22:09 morning 02:22:53 morning babe 02:23:11 =) 02:23:13 wussap? 02:23:20 u read /.? 02:23:27 no 02:23:32 bah 02:23:34 u should 02:23:40 i hate it surfing the web with w3m :/ 02:23:57 go read it 02:24:42 no 02:24:46 have no console free 02:24:52 u must 02:24:59 --- quit: HeavyJoost_away (Connection reset by peer) 02:25:12 there is an article u MUST see 02:25:39 its worth closing yer ascii pr0n console for 02:25:49 about brixx? 02:26:14 :) 02:26:33 you famours bitch ;) 02:27:05 well, im gonna be a cable modemless bitch tomorrow 02:27:08 you know the guy who slashdotted you? 02:27:20 why? 02:27:25 no but he will die if i find out who 02:27:47 they used the qzx.com url instead of sf.net 02:27:54 it /.'d my cable modem 02:28:19 hihi 02:28:46 well sorta, my computer was only sending out very tiny redirections but still 9000 of them in 3hrs 02:28:56 lol 02:29:02 not bad :) 02:29:09 at 3hrs it was 100 per minute 02:29:31 you could serve that? 02:29:35 sur 02:29:36 e 02:30:20 i can serve almost 1MB per minute 02:30:49 about 2000 hits per minute 02:31:45 uh 02:31:56 you have an 8MBIT connection or what? 02:32:46 128mbit upstream 02:32:50 er 02:32:53 128kbit upstream 02:33:01 duh 02:33:04 15.9kB/sec 02:33:08 i saw 1MB per second :/ 02:33:13 heh 02:33:26 well i have that too 02:33:32 wouldnt think that is enough 02:34:24 i was only sending out a meta redirect tag 02:35:12 i just served 9 months worth ofthem in one day tho 02:35:39 er, in 3hrs 02:41:29 heh 02:42:52 air : tell me soemthing 02:42:57 i like your sexy voice... 02:44:59 * lynx dinrking fresh milk 02:47:20 hrm 02:47:22 fuck IBM 02:52:34 --- join: N8Dawg (~nathanmat@gateway.caplin.com) joined #osdev 02:53:59 Hi all 03:02:34 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 03:07:26 --- join: PiTfLuK (PiTfLuK@ACB48B52.ipt.aol.com) joined #osdev 03:07:29 hi 03:07:34 Hi PiTfLuK. 03:07:53 You know, with a more sane name, and a better ISP, you wouldn't look dangerous :) 03:09:26 lol 03:10:18 --- join: kaze (~Kaze_0mx@213.203.91.191) joined #osdev 03:13:50 Hi kaze :) 03:15:27 hi :) 03:17:55 i have a question: is the instruction 0xF1 only supported on intel's cpu ? 03:18:18 What instruction is that? 03:18:31 it makes an int 1 03:18:40 but it is undocummented 03:18:41 Oh... Well, I don't know. 03:18:51 Don't use undocumented features :) 03:18:59 They often change in future CPUs. 03:19:06 * Robert thinks "pop cs". 03:19:07 thx ;) 03:19:14 lol 03:20:20 pop cs 03:20:21 --- quit: kaze ("Leaving") 03:21:21 --- quit: lynx ("Reconnecting") 03:21:29 --- join: lynx (~lynx@pD9E63D5F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 03:30:02 Im baaaaack! 03:32:37 --- quit: PiTfLuK ("BlackZone.serveirc.com:6667 server about programmation, osdev and for fun join us :)") 03:53:28 any posix pthread lib guru in here? 03:54:00 Heres my problem... im calling pthread_create from a subroutine of my main program. if i call pthread_join within the same subroutine (immediately after), the thread function works properly. If i return to the main function immediately after pthread_create, it segfaults. 03:54:11 bono! 03:54:18 bono : my hd broke :/ 03:54:25 bono : i have no dev box 03:54:51 heh... ran out of luck! :) 03:54:57 :/ 03:55:06 luckily i was able to save the sources 03:55:12 before everything fucked up 03:55:28 but it isn`t compiling still 03:56:10 what date is today? 03:56:17 19th ... hrm 03:56:18 ok 03:59:34 --- quit: Divine (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:10:27 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:13:31 --- nick: lynx -> lynx_decks 04:33:20 --- quit: N8Dawg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:44:58 dumdidum 04:45:01 --- nick: lynx_decks -> lynx 04:47:11 --- join: CharlieG (~goodwinch@62.190.92.250) joined #osdev 04:47:27 what's this? brix / crush on slashdot? 04:47:53 ya 04:48:04 ask air, if he is still up 04:49:00 it's on the main page 04:51:55 oh 04:52:05 * lynx didnt know CharlieG meant that 04:52:05 ok 04:52:07 yeah, he got slashdotted :P 04:52:18 oink : do you know any cool domain name? 04:53:01 erm 04:53:02 no :) 04:53:37 hrm 04:53:38 ok 04:53:39 .. 04:53:46 ahhhh 04:53:51 i need my sgi parts, admanit 04:53:54 damnit 04:54:41 why d'ya need a cool domain name? 04:58:17 i dont know 04:58:34 maybe to push my ego 04:58:59 lynx: then you still have a long way to go ;) 04:59:38 jeez it didn't get a warm reception on slashdot 04:59:54 tho does anything these days that isn't based on games or star trek? 05:00:27 * lynx nods 05:00:40 and anything that isnt linux related 05:00:55 * lynx glares at the ugly penguin 05:01:01 well not even that's sacred these days because there are so many linux factions 05:01:13 osnews woulda been a better website for that article. 05:02:15 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.7) joined #osdev 05:02:52 * lynx nods 05:03:44 nothing was a good website for the article 05:04:05 brix is ready for the mass public 05:04:07 isnt 05:04:16 * lynx nods... again 05:04:50 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f28.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 05:05:03 heh all 05:05:20 huhu 05:05:40 but in a few minutes i will have my brix for dummies stuff ready and then it will be ready :) 05:06:49 air: including graphical user interface and so on? 05:07:45 no, i dumbed down the about page :) 05:11:46 qzx.com/brix <-- read the new about page and tell me if u understand brix? 05:14:22 please wait 05:14:49 for? 05:15:45 air: it's not the 'about' page, it's the 'info' page that it's on. 05:15:56 well 05:15:59 how can u expect a dummy to get to it if u name it wrong? :P 05:16:07 i didnt 05:16:22 there 05:16:27 info..about page 05:17:00 it really is called the about page, its the default page in the info section 05:17:05 :) 05:17:19 u shoulda just linked to it from the news post 05:17:49 heh 05:18:10 if yer too stupid to find the page then i dont want ya on my site ;) 05:18:46 i havent yet received email from anyone that couldnt find a page, of course they probably couldnt find the email page :) 05:20:10 * Looks kinda like what you have now, only better. Doesn't have icons or menus but you won't miss them, heck, you probably don't even know what they are. Supports themes/skins so you can make all the windows look purdy. And it does lots of other cool things but you wouldn't understand so I'm not gonna tell you. hehe... 05:20:30 an OS for dummies... 05:20:55 hehe 05:21:01 good that we have air 05:21:11 its an OS for dummies and smart ppl 05:21:12 coz all the dummies outa there are so stupid... 05:21:15 all in one 05:21:40 they dont need to decide, they need anyone who has to decide for them! 05:22:38 does any of that sound like im insulting ppl? 05:22:52 they dont need to decide if they wanna learn first BASIC or C, they HAVE TO LEARN crush 05:23:05 ugh 05:23:11 i didnt dumb it down enuf 05:23:16 freedom? dont need that 05:23:23 All programs are written in ONE language which has the ability to mimic your favorite language. 05:23:34 to mimic... 05:23:47 what part of that did u not understand? 05:24:02 --- join: DumbIntel (DumbIntel@host-209-214-7-55.mia.bellsouth.net) joined #osdev 05:24:11 it can mimic forth? 05:24:26 sorta 05:24:28 how about COBOL? 05:24:35 i dont know cobol 05:24:39 or SWETcal 7 05:24:44 cant say if it could ornot 05:24:59 All programs are written in ONE language which has the ability to mimic your favorite language. 05:25:14 so my favourite language is SWETcal 7 05:25:21 stfu :) 05:25:44 it can mimic C and C++ and java and lots of ppl know them 05:25:50 that takes care of most ppl 05:26:00 but you said my favourite lang 05:26:05 ok 05:26:55 All programs are written in ONE language which has the ability to mimic your choice of 3 langs :) 05:27:13 (java, C, c++) 05:27:19 :) 05:27:27 hehe, yeah 05:27:30 i feel a class action law suit coming on 05:27:37 u'll be shut down b4 u've even taken off 05:27:37 reload 05:27:42 lying on ur website like that. 05:27:52 i'm shocked. 05:28:16 heh 05:28:17 * file thwaps CharlieG 05:28:29 you evil evil person! 05:28:31 * file backs air 100% 05:28:36 "Read this color of text if you haven't a clue what the black text means. And don't bother reading the other pages on this site, they are probably WAY over your head. :)" 05:28:42 hahaha how patronising is that? 05:28:47 * air hands file a bigger thwap stick 05:28:56 :P 05:29:01 * file thwaps CharlieG some more 05:29:05 "it is impossible to install binary code that may contain a virus" - sure? 05:29:21 so when can we get a brix ISO, burn and install it? 05:29:46 2010 05:29:52 hehe 05:29:52 heh 05:30:04 i don't understand the 'no applications' concept tho 05:30:09 won't it be wank without applications? 05:30:17 wait 05:30:17 back 05:30:24 what will be the purpose? 05:30:31 u dont understand the smart or dummy description? 05:30:38 surely apps are the basis of an os, and 'compiling' them into the os like u suggest, won't that just be bloating it? 05:30:49 he wants all apps to be implemented into the OS 05:31:16 u dont write apps, u write OS features 05:31:20 it sounds more like u want the apps to specify the 'logic' behind them, separating out their interface. 05:31:26 even those apps like 3D Studio MAX or Adobe Premiere 05:31:50 these are very easy to implement... 05:31:51 hrm 05:31:59 ;-) 05:32:02 i get that, but, well, it sounds like when u have a lot of apps it could be a bit messy / bloated 05:32:02 * lynx groans 05:32:12 of course 05:32:23 which is a bad thing, surely 05:32:23 how easy will it be to remove these OS features? 05:32:29 messy/bloated in what way 05:32:57 DumbIntel: easy 05:33:00 so every time i wanna run my spreadsheet app i have to 'add' it as an os feature? then 'remove' it so that my os isn't bloated? i don't think that's airs intention. 05:33:01 dumpintel: very simple; simply reimplement the whole OS 05:33:03 *g* 05:33:09 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-201-214.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 05:33:13 CharlieG: wtf 05:33:26 heh 05:33:26 the entire OS isnt loaded into ram 05:33:40 all yer apps arent loaded on startup 05:34:03 how easy it is to install an application? 05:34:24 you simply copy the app into a folder and done... 05:34:26 brix uses fine grained code, that means it only loads what needs to be loaded, not huge libraries and programs 05:35:00 u fire up the crush installer, it accesses a repository (either cdrom or some server) 05:35:15 it then lists all categories of features 05:35:26 u can browse thru them or search 05:35:33 is the crush installer allready implemented? 05:35:37 click the feature and press install 05:35:54 it will install all dependancies 05:36:00 air: do you already have the interface working? 05:36:03 it will also tell u what they are if u wanna know 05:36:08 no 05:36:31 why does 'crush' sound like 'crash'? 05:36:47 when will this finally launch? 05:37:15 is it a terminal based OS which has the Interface shell? 05:37:32 DumbIntel: 2010 05:37:51 DumbIntel: did u read the about page? 05:37:59 what makes you think it will rise to popularity? 05:37:59 no 05:38:05 could u? 05:38:15 atleast read the "for dummies" sections 05:38:23 it will answer most of yer questions 05:39:02 2010 I will buy a computer which will contain only brush and crix 05:39:18 a) i will die still trying to make brix the only OS in the world OR b) brix will become the only OS in the world :) 05:39:45 * air kicks Mathis 05:39:57 air : how far is crush? 05:39:59 why? 05:40:30 lynx: it can compile working functions and has lambda support 05:40:38 lambda = ? 05:40:44 nameless functions 05:40:51 hrm 05:40:54 example? 05:41:06 nameless functions, how practicable... 05:41:14 it means functions are first class objects 05:41:54 in my OS all functions have only numbers 05:42:03 advanced languages use lambdas 05:42:06 C does not 05:43:01 hrm 05:43:06 ahh 05:43:08 hey... 05:43:22 shall i either buy a mid-class ibook or a new decks? 05:43:30 * lynx tends for new decks 05:43:53 a hooker? 05:43:59 a gay male hooker? 05:44:07 DECKS you fool 05:44:22 = turntable set 05:44:50 maybe if u paid for some gay sex u would stop asking me to hook u up with my brother 05:45:29 you should do less drugs, air 05:45:40 heh 05:45:45 i have logs 05:45:56 * lynx has logs , too 05:46:22 --- join: Stalky (~cms@ool-4352c2ce.dyn.optonline.net) joined #osdev 05:46:26 'lo 05:46:28 yo 05:46:53 dman .. why aren`t there any good domain names lefT? 05:47:52 No match for "TAKE-IT-UP-THE-ASS.ORG". 05:48:04 ... 05:48:12 how do you find time to read logs? 05:48:13 no match for "thinkweed.org" 05:48:55 DumbIntel : well besides designing software for years he has little time to do that 05:49:23 you're going to turn yellow 05:49:30 go out and see sunlight :) 05:49:48 turn yellow? 05:49:55 from no sunlight... 05:50:00 ah 05:50:10 it is a nice gee-bleachness, you fool ;) 05:50:14 geek 05:51:40 takeituptheass.com is already taken 05:51:51 but org/net/info <-- yummy is free 05:54:21 weel 05:54:25 do what i did 05:54:29 get lynxtech.com 05:54:36 i got charlietech.com 05:54:40 sounds kinda funky 05:54:48 heh 05:55:23 links a sleeker look, I still prefer lynx :) 05:57:40 --- quit: bono ("leaving") 05:58:03 DumbIntel: ? 05:58:33 the browsers... 06:00:10 --- quit: Stalky ("http://www.echosproject.org") 06:04:07 --- quit: file ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 06:16:38 --- join: AceOfSpades (~neo@202.88.224.151) joined #osdev 06:16:51 hi there... anyone who can help me with compiling mobius ? 06:19:53 pav could, if he was here 06:20:26 * lynx nods 06:21:32 hmm anyone else...? 06:21:37 seems like a small problem 06:21:52 trouble with compiling the sources 06:22:45 * AceOfSpades wonders when pav... would be back 06:24:58 --- nick: eirikn- -> eirikn 06:25:15 i think he lives in .uk so whenever .uk ppl come online :) 06:25:58 :)... hmm ok 06:26:39 thanks for your time.. :) 06:26:41 bye forr now 06:26:42 --- part: AceOfSpades left #osdev 06:28:51 --- quit: Mathis ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 06:33:16 --- join: file (joshnet@65.166.122.14) joined #osdev 06:36:55 --- quit: Javanx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06:37:53 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.7) joined #osdev 06:46:33 --- join: ava (~jk@chcgil2-ar6-4-47-169-191.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net) joined #osdev 06:46:59 --- quit: ava (Client Quit) 06:52:49 yay 06:53:11 compiling x11/gtk/gnome on a p100 07:00:25 --- quit: DumbIntel () 07:00:57 lynx: Hah! :D 07:01:04 Germans are crazy. 07:03:30 SILENCE 07:04:24 Yeah. 07:04:30 Germans have no tounges either. 07:04:32 Hey miro :) 07:04:48 lol@indigo2 peating a p4/1400 07:04:49 SILENCE 07:04:51 beating 07:04:55 YOU LITTLE BASTARD 07:04:58 shush 07:05:02 Patting a P4? 07:05:11 germans have the worst taste in music 07:05:18 CharlieG ? 07:05:20 that aside, nice people :) 07:05:25 CharlieG : like what music? 07:05:53 like... ugh... think bad techno / cheesey house then think worse, or 80s garbage, stuff like that 07:05:56 indigo? 07:06:16 CharlieG : uhh... what about nujazz and cliqhop? 07:06:30 german electronica rulz 07:06:41 so does swedish and icelandic one 07:06:51 and uk one, of course 07:07:00 ah 07:07:04 french one, too 07:07:11 and the belique isnt bad either 07:07:12 hrm 07:07:23 there is cool hungarian stuff... 07:07:30 and polish one, too 07:07:46 * lynx has never heard any good electronic music from US, though 07:09:10 file: 07:09:14 file? 07:10:00 CharlieG : but i agree most of the stuff on nearly all radiostations in germany is worst quality 07:10:28 CharlieG : but that is shit for the masses... and so is th most on US/* radios 07:10:34 --- quit: Javanx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:11:28 CharlieG : you can`t give the mass progressive music, or any other kind of music which needs the listeners attention or ability to analyse the sounds he is hearing 07:11:48 compiling MEsa3 07:11:51 poor p100 :/ 07:13:40 i dunno, america is full of country/western poop 07:13:48 england is full of crap rock/pop 07:14:02 and germany is about 20 years behind in the musical revolution. 07:14:20 that said, they ain't missing out on much! only 1 in 20 songs these days is decent. 07:14:28 ? 07:14:30 uhh 07:14:43 why should germany be 20 years behind? 07:15:04 the whole nujazz revolution comes from germany/austria/skandinavia 07:15:15 cliqhop comes mostly from germany/uk 07:15:37 cliqhop is what björk does partially and what aphex twin does 07:16:50 björk took a track of console`s(german artist) 4 year old album for a track on verpsertine (heirloom)... 07:17:05 it is a 1:1 copy with minor mastering changes 07:18:02 and dont tell me that björk is 20 years behind... 07:18:11 who is working on that music tool in here? 07:18:21 which one? 07:18:26 both 07:18:36 i am workingon radiator 07:18:41 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.7) joined #osdev 07:18:47 I wanna test it 07:18:51 lynx: url? 07:18:51 uhh 07:18:55 radiator.sf.net 07:19:04 it is like one week old.. uh.. 07:19:09 and pav, which one is he working on? 07:19:13 the same 07:19:20 aha 07:19:28 it is pav`s and my baby :) 07:19:35 and bono is working on it, too 07:21:08 there was someone in here working on another one, right? 07:21:33 ink 07:21:35 yes 07:21:41 but afaik he hasnt released any code 07:21:45 url of his one? 07:21:49 althought his stuff is said to be quite decent 07:23:09 --- join: ChillySpy (ChillySpy@ppp246.ppp6.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 07:23:39 why is everyone working on music tools now? 07:23:52 on 2 tools 07:23:54 only 07:24:09 but what's inks url? 07:24:13 lol 07:24:16 dunnp 07:24:18 dunno 07:24:24 well, it seems lynx is leaving some out... 07:24:25 but you could check indigo ones 07:24:25 indigo: cos making an 'os' was yesterdays fashion; now it's music tools 07:24:36 indigo - who is working on music tools? 07:24:47 indigo : ;) 07:24:54 Rico : iosynth.sf.net 07:24:55 well, i am, and lynx says he is...and i haven't heard about ink 07:25:09 indigo - what are you doing? 07:25:11 thanks 07:25:14 ink is working on it fore several months 07:25:18 for 07:25:22 making a modular synth 07:25:25 if not for a year+ 07:25:49 indigo - hmmm 07:26:02 if noone is developing an OS why are they in OSDev? 07:26:08 noone? 07:26:10 noon? 07:26:22 no one 07:26:23 none 07:26:24 ahh 07:26:25 ChillySpy: nostaglic 07:26:26 ;) 07:26:36 ;) 07:26:39 i'm working on an OS too, problem is....there's no apps to run on it...so... 07:26:45 after the music tool hype, there will come a music tool/os hybrid hype :) 07:26:55 rico - heh 07:27:07 rico : there are only 3 apps... so what is the prob with that? 07:27:09 just about everyone here has a hobby OS 07:27:18 lynx: nothing 07:27:21 does anyone here play music? like an instrument 07:27:26 ja.. 07:27:28 * indigo does 07:27:40 i play the guitar and the turntables... 07:27:41 :P 07:27:48 turntables arn't instruments :) 07:27:52 they are 07:27:53 indigo - what instrument? 07:28:03 turntables are an instrument like drums 07:28:04 guitar and clairinet 07:28:12 and electronik :) 07:28:51 I play Djembe 07:28:53 ;P 07:28:55 heh 07:28:56 lol 07:29:18 well shoot...my events are getting eaten somewhere 07:29:47 lynx/indigo - i had this idea about open source music, where someone would arrange music parts, then others would record versions of their part(however they want), then each track sample would be selected(based on whatever), and then "compiled" into a song 07:29:57 do you think it could work, or be used 07:30:00 no 07:30:04 its called Open Source Music 07:30:30 doesnt that already exist? 07:30:34 where? 07:30:37 * lynx looks at MusicMaker 07:30:53 gr....... 07:31:09 * indigo wonders why his widgets arn't getting button press events... 07:31:15 indigo - why wouldnt it work/be used? 07:31:23 indigo : singal connected? 07:31:34 lynx: ya, i'm getting release events, but not presses 07:31:55 hrm 07:32:10 ChillySpy: because you can't just throw music together 07:32:16 * lynx uses wxWindows 07:32:29 * indigo is using gtkmm 07:32:29 ChillySpy : you can, dont listen to indigo :P 07:32:36 indigo - yes you can, ive done it... it still sounds good 07:32:53 it is what turntablists do... 07:32:58 it is what music maker does 07:33:05 it is what the whole samplinculture does 07:33:08 indigo - how do you think studios work? if they need a drummer, they call one up, give him a chart, and he plays, then goes home 07:33:53 they give him a chart, and good music is played by people who have been playing together for some time 07:34:15 --- join: drewcifer (~chatzilla@blue8.itsc.uah.edu) joined #osdev 07:34:23 indigo - so jam sessions always suck? 07:34:29 no 07:34:30 lynx - where is musicmaker? 07:34:34 ... 07:34:45 lynx - ive played w/ people ive never played w/ be4 and it sounded great 07:34:46 ChillySpy: generally, yes 07:34:53 --- quit: file ("BitchX-1.0c16 -- just do it.") 07:34:54 ChillySpy: when it becomes music, it's not a jam session anymore 07:34:57 ChillySpy : you make music? 07:35:01 jam sessions are like rough drafts 07:35:09 lynx - drums, guitar, some piano 07:35:22 ChillySpy : you put the music online? 07:35:28 indigo : bah 07:35:33 you ppl all suck 07:35:40 no experience at all 07:35:41 pfff 07:35:43 die... 07:35:45 indigo - but all music comes from rough drafts 07:36:04 yes, so? 07:36:04 lynx - no i havnt... i just formed a band... and we recorded one song last night 07:36:04 jam sessions is what makes modern music lively 07:36:19 ChillySpy : nice :) put the songs online :) 07:36:42 look at bands like phish... 07:36:49 they tour through the us for like 20 years 07:36:57 have some studioalbums and they are quite sucky 07:37:02 indigo - even if the music sux(that is generated from Open Source Music), people could do covers, and rerecord their own parts, and other stuff... w/o any roalties or anything 07:37:05 but their concerts are always sold out 07:37:12 because their livessions rule 07:37:26 attendands are also alowed to make bootlegs, btw :P 07:37:51 lynx - i will put it online, i think ill join like peoplesound.com or somethign like that... and sell our CDs for like 4 or 5 dollars... cause we got free recording, and we dont have a label so... 07:37:57 ChillySpy : you mean you want to create a sound/exchange platform for opensoucre music? 07:38:12 lynx - yes... like the sourceforge of music 07:38:12 ChillySpy : where you put all samples you used online and everyone is allowed to remix them? 07:38:15 yeah 07:38:17 that exists, too 07:38:26 where? 07:38:50 fm4.at ... a really good radiostation does that here in my area.. they have like thousands of artists... and the y all remix themselves etc. 07:38:55 the best music is played on air, too 07:39:06 www.fm4.at/soundpark 07:39:53 lynx - but it would be cool if it was like sourceforge, people signed up, joined projects (songs) and submitted to CVS (but for music) u know? 07:40:42 yes 07:40:45 it can be like that 07:40:51 ? 07:40:58 soundpark is like that 07:41:04 lynx - would somethign like that be used? 07:41:10 i dont know 07:41:13 hrm 07:41:18 --- join: AceOfSpades (~neo@202.88.224.151) joined #osdev 07:41:19 ... 07:41:24 you have a server? 07:41:40 lynx - nope 07:41:42 something that gives you the necessary bandwidth? 07:41:44 well 07:41:48 i might help you 07:41:54 would be fancy 07:42:02 lynx - its just an idea now 07:42:06 well 07:42:15 it is a concept that is established, somehow 07:42:35 lynx what do you mean? 07:42:46 that it exists in several forms 07:42:48 like ... 07:42:52 like mp3.com 07:42:55 or soundpark 07:42:59 or em440.com 07:43:07 lynx - but not in the form that im talking about 07:43:15 .net 07:43:26 or org? 07:43:29 something like that 07:43:35 ChillySpy : well 07:43:44 yes 07:43:59 but that is for my taste just a step further the existing concepts 07:44:11 it is not like super-*new* 07:44:27 but it would be interesting to aim that to opensource stuff only 07:44:36 at least geared to it 07:45:26 lynx - right... this kid and i... thought of making an Open Framework... for all things that could be open, open source music, open source books, open source video, open source magazines, open source sex;) hehe 07:45:50 hrm 07:45:52 lynx - then build off that framework for each thing 07:46:16 you cannot have opensource books 07:46:39 lynx - why not? its actually been done, kindof 07:46:55 well at least no complete book 07:47:04 which is then editable by others 07:47:06 hrm 07:47:11 well 07:47:13 maybe .. 07:47:14 ok 07:47:33 i would be only interested in openmusic 07:47:50 lynx - have u ever played the game where you write one thing, then someone finished the sentence... blah blah 07:47:55 and openvideo, maybe 07:47:57 it could be like that, but be by chapter 07:48:06 maybe 07:48:19 but anyway 07:50:02 ? 07:50:14 i twould be more like a webplattform 07:52:21 right... like sourceforge? 07:52:30 I am having a bit of trouble compiling the mobius sources... can anyone help me...? 07:52:43 ChillySpy : less complex 07:52:46 but like it 07:53:08 lynx - how could it be less complex? 07:53:22 --- join: nbsp (g@ip68-14-60-55.no.no.cox.net) joined #osdev 07:55:35 you could get rid of all debugging stuff... 07:55:37 brb 07:55:52 well yeah... but the ideals are still there 07:57:07 but ideals dont need databses and scripts, lol 07:57:36 lynx - heh... well alot of the functionality 07:58:47 lynx - i got to go... but ... ill ttyl 08:01:37 --- quit: ChillySpy () 08:01:41 --- part: AceOfSpades left #osdev 08:04:14 --- quit: miro ("Client Exiting") 08:04:35 --- join: file (joshnet@65.166.122.14) joined #osdev 08:10:34 --- quit: corsairk8 () 08:22:52 --- quit: eirikn ("Segmentation fault") 08:22:55 --- quit: file ("BitchX-1.0c16 -- just do it.") 08:23:24 --- join: file (joshnet@65.166.122.14) joined #osdev 08:36:31 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 08:39:12 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f13.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 08:39:25 heh all 08:39:49 hello 08:49:56 --- quit: corsairk8 () 09:09:30 --- quit: CharlieG () 09:15:48 --- nick: drewcifer -> drewcifer_ 09:26:29 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:39:17 --- join: file[irritated] (proxy@mctnts13d055.nbnet.nb.ca) joined #osdev 09:39:27 indigo: you alive? 09:40:09 no 09:40:14 err..yes 09:40:18 hehe 09:40:21 get anything yet? 09:40:25 no :( 09:40:29 bah 09:40:44 should be here soon... 09:40:49 well I sent the cradle Saturday, she said she had a pickup that day so it's on it's journey 09:41:02 oki... 09:41:12 the helio was shipped tuesday right? 09:41:18 I think so 09:41:22 er yes - Tuesday 09:41:27 that means it could be here tomorrow... 09:41:28 maybe :) 09:41:38 my networking kit hasn't come yet either... and the NBTel technician hasn't shown up 09:41:48 damn that NBTel... 09:42:35 indigo: PSST, you could have gotten tracking 09:42:45 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 09:42:51 i could have? 09:43:03 * file[irritated] nods 09:43:16 that would have cost money though... 09:43:20 I put tracking on my wireless network kit payment... and that was just a letter lol 09:43:43 you don't want to know how much :) 09:44:01 --- join: Robert_ (~Robert@robost86.tsps1.freenet6.net) joined #osdev 09:44:17 --- quit: Robert (Network is unreachable) 09:45:39 --- nick: Robert_ -> robert 09:45:44 --- nick: robert -> Robert 09:46:23 "WarpLink adapter is not installed!" 09:49:04 --- join: Magik (identd@alb-24-29-45-178.nycap.rr.com) joined #osdev 09:52:14 --- join: acme (acme@pD95442AC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 10:01:16 --- nick: chidezzzz -> chide 10:06:53 --- join: ^ChAoS (~chaos@deadbabe.badf00d.org) joined #osdev 10:08:27 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:09:01 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 10:09:24 --- join: HuntrCkr (huntrckr@myr53-01-p138.gt.saix.net) joined #osdev 10:10:35 'lo 10:10:39 Hi 10:14:23 hmmm... i haven't had this much fun in ages 10:14:41 * file[irritated] disco dances 10:14:44 I'll keep on dancing! 10:14:54 until this "WarpLink adapter is not installed!" message is gone 10:14:55 * HuntrCkr is compiling an entire linux system from scratch on a 486 10:15:12 bash took about 50min 10:15:29 lol 10:15:56 hehe... and the 300Meg free disk space is not helping either :) 10:16:48 that sounds fun 10:16:59 but i discovered something... i had a midnight commander session open in another VC, and it slowed the build down 10fold 10:17:05 ah 10:17:37 mc was idle, but it still slowed it down... why? 10:17:52 mmm unknown 10:17:54 --- join: einsteinien (~cravikira@12-213-178-103.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 10:18:35 --- quit: einsteinien (Client Quit) 10:18:58 hmmm... ^ just passing through ;) 10:19:02 hehe 10:20:00 file: what's a WarpLink adapter used for? 10:20:14 HuntrCkr: Wireless networking 10:21:05 haven't played with that stuff yet... not very popular in SA... what kind of speeds can u get? 10:21:20 1mbps 10:21:31 it's an old wireless networking card 10:21:37 I got a PCMCIA and ISA one for $30.95 10:21:39 including shipping 10:22:05 cool... btw, what is the price of a DVD there in the US? 10:22:32 dunno 10:22:32 I'm in Canada LOL 10:22:55 in canada? or is it too cold for DVD's there :p 10:23:03 lol 10:23:08 it's actually quite hot here 10:23:20 for example, it was so hot yesterday that it rendered the phone lines useless 10:23:41 this time of year? isn't it supposed to be autumn or something? 10:23:46 no it's summer 10:24:01 soon to be autumn 10:24:07 yes 10:24:17 * file[irritated] is waiting for the phone company technician to come 10:24:19 3 weeks or so... still weird :) 10:24:27 although I think the problem fixed it itself 10:24:44 so how much are dvd's in canada 10:25:04 dunno, I don't buy them 10:25:15 but I think like $25 CAD 10:25:32 * HuntrCkr whacks Robert with a dead lizard 10:25:41 where are you located? 10:25:48 Atlantic Provinces 10:26:07 file: $25 CAD = ?? US$ 10:26:22 btw, i was referring to robert :) 10:26:27 Unknown 10:26:36 --- join: Guzzi (~apardue@register.rcsreg.net) joined #osdev 10:27:01 * HuntrCkr jumps for joy!! 10:27:17 ./configure for binutils almost done :) 10:27:57 Robert: you still with us? 10:28:16 oh your in South Africa... 10:28:21 --- join: miro (~miro@pD9E4CA62.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 10:28:23 --- part: Guzzi left #osdev 10:28:38 I didn't notice lol 10:28:42 * file[irritated] erms 10:29:51 yeah, good old South Africa... land of a thousand tons of dirt, and no DSL 10:29:53 --- join: Ghiottone (~alex@ppp-27-10.27-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 10:30:21 I'm surprised you have internet at all 10:30:23 know of any other South Africans trying to create their own OS? 10:30:41 ...I don't know any South Africans besides you to begin with lol 10:31:02 56K dial-up costs me about 1/3 of my monthly salary... how do you like that? 10:31:12 and I am reasonably well-paid in South Africa 10:31:19 oh my 10:31:41 wanna know why... 10:32:14 Phone company is goverment owned... they control everything... what you Americans (or Canadians) would call a monopoly 10:33:13 Is the terrain good for wireless? 10:34:05 in SA... well, if i stand on the second floor of a building here, i can see three of my sister cities on the horizon... how's that for flat? 10:35:01 --- quit: file[irritated] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:35:40 file is so irritated, he unplugged his modem :D 10:38:20 heh 10:38:55 Do you have an unlicensed 2.4GHz and 5.2/3/7GHz band, or is that licensed differently? 10:39:47 --- join: LNN (~echo@h253n2fls34o867.telia.com) joined #osdev 10:43:00 no idea... like i said, wireless is not very popular here for some reason (most likely cost), and I have not had the liberty of playing around with a wireless network yet 10:43:25 --- quit: LNN (Client Quit) 10:44:30 but most likely, me as a person would not be allowed to have a wireless lan that goes further than 30m, and anything further would be handled by the goverment controlled phone company... 10:45:17 ie, they install and configure everything, and if you touch it, you get slammed with a nice and large fine 10:46:51 in SA, you are not even allowed to have a wire between two joined apartments... only the phone company is allowed to do that 10:47:22 ofcourse, that rule gets generally ignored ;) 10:47:52 * HuntrCkr is having fun talking to himself 10:47:55 moo 10:49:15 --- nick: drewcifer_ -> drewcifer 10:49:22 heh 10:50:05 If the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands are unlicensed, you can do wireless over many miles unless there is a regulation forbidding it. 10:51:00 Magik: not exactly 10:51:04 there are power restrictions 10:52:33 I'm sure. 10:53:30 30mW can get you four miles with high gain antennas. 10:53:43 It all depends on your equivalent to the FCC here in the US 10:53:46 yeah, I was about to say that 10:53:56 but normally you can't get that range 10:54:01 unless you know what you're doing :) 10:54:09 In the US we can't exceed something like 4W EIRP 10:54:22 It's not hard. 10:54:45 no, it isn't 10:55:00 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-201-214.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 10:55:01 Your biggest hurdle, if setting up a large wireless net isn't hard enough, is getting bandwidth out of the country. 10:55:15 I'm sure T1s or T3s aren't exactly cheap. 10:55:27 Or E1s/E3s possibly there. 10:56:09 Really fast networking means squat if you can only talk to your neighbor (: 10:58:29 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:00:35 hehe... to give you an idea, some of the biggest businesses here run 256K or maybe 512K lines for large lan's...anything else is just too pricey 11:00:49 cause it all goes through our phone company 11:00:54 Yup 11:01:15 You can eliminate the phone company if you have enough wireless coverage. 11:01:27 Its the international leased lines that kill you. 11:01:27 (: 11:01:48 hehe... no you can't... like i said, anything further than 30m will be controlled by our phone company 11:02:11 hmmm, unless you set up a router every 30m 11:02:14 heh 11:02:28 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:02:31 provided you own a piece of land every 30m 11:03:14 what do you understand under international leased lines killing you 11:03:22 ? 11:04:23 a 1MBit leased line here to you nearest PoP, not international, is like $1,000,000 a month 11:05:14 oh sorry, 2Mbit... 11:07:55 What is the name of the telephone company? 11:08:45 TelKom 11:08:57 why? 11:09:12 Just looking. Telkom is running wifi trials. 11:09:22 http://allafrica.com/stories/200205100150.html 11:09:55 hmmm... well, they have also been rolling out DSL support for two years now 11:10:02 heh 11:10:11 That's no different than here in the US. 11:10:20 DSL has been available as a technology since 1978 11:10:47 yeah, with the exception maybe that if they roll it out in New York, ppl there can then use it 11:11:09 here, we have to wait till it is done country-wide before anybody else can get it 11:13:49 The best I can do is refer you here: 11:13:50 http://www.w-lan.com/ 11:14:06 They are a wireless distributor and claim to replace landlines. 11:14:17 Legal? I don't know your laws (: 11:14:27 cool... 500K ISDN... price, more than my salary 11:15:38 hmmm... we already had a pretty cool thing... MegaWAN... Radio Networks... provided 24/7 128K internet access at a very affordable price 11:16:05 got shut down by goverment, cause it was in direct competition with Telkom 11:16:52 oh yeah, when I say affordable, I mean about the same as what I pay Telkom a month for my 56K dial-up access 11:17:45 Yeah, seems that your government uses the telco as a cash cow. 11:18:56 that pretty much sums it up!! 11:19:49 --- quit: Mathis ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 11:20:57 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:21:04 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:24:32 internet access in SA is pretty much limited to well-paid people 11:24:32 your average person in the street can't even afford dial-up 11:25:03 is it true that in some states in america you don't even pay for local calls? 11:28:25 heh, I don't pay for long-distance calles within the US on my cell phone. 11:32:12 ... 11:33:13 --- join: corsairk9 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:34:55 --- quit: corsairk9 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:35:18 --- join: corsairk9 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:39:21 --- quit: corsairk9 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:39:38 --- join: corsairk9 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:41:11 --- quit: corsairk8 (Connection timed out) 11:42:26 --- quit: corsairk9 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:42:59 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:51:31 --- join: HeavyJoost (HeavyJoost@a213-84-139-110.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined #osdev 11:55:36 --- join: corsairk9 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 11:57:09 --- quit: corsairk8 (Connection reset by peer) 12:01:32 --- join: file[irritated] (proxy@mctnts04c034.nbnet.nb.ca) joined #osdev 12:01:37 phone line went out again 12:12:15 hehe, i am actually finished compiling binutils now 12:15:38 Yeah, local calls are free. 12:16:13 Well, US$ 20 for basic phone service. Call it US $25 with taxes. 12:16:37 per month 12:16:57 Internet access @ 56K is as low as US$15 to US$25 12:17:57 I pay US$50 per month for cable modem access, which is about a 1-2Mbit down and 128-256Kbit up. 12:18:59 Which works out to be 0.004% of my gross income. 12:19:16 er. 12:19:32 0.4%... multiply by 0.004 12:20:08 The only complaint about cable access is their restrictions and availability. 12:20:32 My cable modem goes down quite a bit. Plus they severely restrict what I can serve from my connection. 12:21:08 Hence I will eventually get a wireless network set up with friends here. 12:21:27 And pool our resources to buy bandwidth from local providers. 12:21:53 --- join: EtherNet (~ethernet@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 12:22:55 That happens right after I win the lottery. 12:23:09 Which will also give me plenty of time to write the OS that's floating in my head all these years. 12:23:11 hello! 12:24:13 Magik: sounds like a plan 12:25:01 --- quit: file[irritated] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:26:18 Magik: according to my calculations, you earn about $12500 per month... that's what a very well paid person here earns in a year 12:26:48 Before taxes I make $150,000 a year. 12:27:08 Figure $110-$120K/yr after taxes and insurance, yes. 12:27:10 --- join: bono (~bono@modemcable171.3-202-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 12:27:21 hehe, that would be equal to winning the lotto here :) 12:27:41 Lotto just hit $165 million here (: 12:28:10 damn... you win that, you could buy South Africa ;) 12:28:25 Except DeBeers. 12:28:37 Magik: !!!! how much did you win!! ? 12:29:04 I won nothing (: you think I'd be sitting around on IRC if I won $165 million? (: 12:29:19 I'd be buying small countries like HuntrCkr said. 12:29:19 yeah, a lot of multi-national corps are worth a lot, but they are all moving out of South Africa... 12:29:33 hehe.. perhaps.. I don't change IRC for nothing.. 12:29:54 EtherNet: seek help :) 12:29:55 My OS plans would get off the ground with $165 million 12:29:58 I could pay people to code. 12:30:13 nah, that would take all the fun out og it 12:30:44 HuntrCkr: heheheh... why!!?? this is a distraction.. a good way to spend time 12:33:44 HuntrCkr: I love design, I hate coding. 12:34:14 hehe, sure it is... but the first day i win $165 million, i'm nowhere near a PC, except next to the quad-Itanium 2 with 4gb RAM I need to pickup from Intel HQ :) 12:34:36 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@gstw-d9b89f13.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 12:34:46 heh all 12:35:50 --- join: eirikn (eirik@ipv6.eirikn.net) joined #osdev 12:36:07 * EtherNet is away: spending his time... 12:36:24 hmmm... rephrase that... have Intel drop that PC off at my house 12:38:33 Is there an IPv6 capable openprojects IRC server? 12:38:46 Magik: yes I think so 12:39:11 --- quit: Ghiottone ("Uscita dal client") 12:39:20 irc.openprojects.net doesn't have an AAAA record. 12:39:28 hrm. 12:39:36 --- mode: ChanServ set +v clog 12:39:39 I've been trying to see how much work I can get done while exclusively on IPv6 12:39:58 I have no idea... 12:40:03 Suprisingly a lot works in the UNIX world. Windows isn't as fortunate. 12:44:22 found it 12:44:23 --- quit: Magik ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.6 -- Are we there yet?") 12:47:57 --- join: file[irritated] (proxy@142.166.243.136) joined #osdev 12:48:13 mmm 12:50:10 --- quit: Robert (Remote closed the connection) 12:51:38 --- join: Robert (~Robert@robost86.tsps1.freenet6.net) joined #osdev 12:51:43 --- join: Magik (matt@3ffe:b80:1065:1:0:0:0:2) joined #osdev 12:52:29 this is very irritating 13:00:36 --- quit: lynx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:00:48 --- join: file[arg] (proxy@mctnts04c065.nbnet.nb.ca) joined #osdev 13:00:52 phone got me again 13:04:07 --- join: Holofix (Holofix@ptd-24-198-99-217.maine.rr.com) joined #osdev 13:04:20 Hello Hello 13:04:56 hello 13:07:31 Okay, i have to go unload a truck.. bbiab 13:07:31 --- nick: Magik -> MagikAway 13:09:19 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:09:40 --- nick: HeavyJoost -> HeavyJoostArghAW 13:09:49 --- nick: HeavyJoostArghAW -> HeavyJoost_AWAY 13:10:32 --- quit: corsairk9 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:11:47 * HeavyJoost_AWAY is away: sleeping-related, I'll be disconnected soon :P 13:12:14 --- join: talin (~talin@ti521110a060-0115.dialup.online.no) joined #osdev 13:12:31 --- quit: talin (Client Quit) 13:12:50 --- join: Ubel (~Ubel@62.145.133.49) joined #osdev 13:20:10 --- quit: file[irritated] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:20:28 --- join: pavlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-138.duckdive.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:20:33 --- join: corsairk9 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:20:41 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:21:06 hey all 13:21:46 --- quit: HeavyJoost_AWAY (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:23:22 hey pavlovskii 13:25:30 --- quit: file[arg] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:26:54 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:27:00 hey pav :) 13:27:21 hey HuntrCkr :) 13:27:29 --- quit: corsairk9 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:27:53 what's new? 13:28:11 hmm, some stuff 13:28:19 erm, been tidying up some loose ends on Mobius 13:28:34 --- join: ChillySpy (ChillySpy@ppp023.ppp1.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 13:28:39 hmm... sounds like fun 13:28:59 i'm busy doing an LFS on a 486 with 16mg ram and 300Mb free disk space 13:30:52 btw, how can you make linux beep after completing a bunch of commands? 13:31:06 * HuntrCkr is addressing all the linux gurus :) 13:32:48 --- quit: miro ("hrm") 13:35:14 --- join: _avlovskii (pavlovskii@modem-406.duckdive.dialup.pol.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:36:00 --- quit: pavlovskii (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 13:36:06 --- nick: _avlovskii -> pavlovskii 13:36:37 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:36:48 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:41:29 --- join: einsteinien (~einsteini@12-213-178-103.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 13:42:12 echo a cntr-g to the terminal :) 13:42:18 err..ctrl-G 13:44:36 how does garbage collection work... how does the collector know if an allocated area is no longer used? 13:45:06 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Robert 13:45:26 --- topic: set to 'Operating System DEVelopment www.osdev.org || links: qzx.com/lib , onee-san.net , kverka.org/~osdev || stats/people: bespin.org/~qz/irc || http://www.osjournal.hopto.org || NRA is getting a bad rap from holywood because hollywood is run by the FAGS' by Robert 13:45:32 --- mode: Robert set -o Robert 13:45:35 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:45:40 --- join: corsairk8 (~Stealthy@pc-62-30-121-110-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) joined #osdev 13:51:04 --- quit: corsairk8 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:55:36 --- quit: Ubel (No route to host) 14:06:25 * EtherNet is away: taking a shower... 14:07:04 --- join: toadx (~toadx@65.241.11.2) joined #osdev 14:09:22 * HuntrCkr is going to sleep now 14:09:26 gnight all!! 14:09:27 --- join: JacK|Awy (JacK@cix-adsl-c43-p179.vtx.ch) joined #osdev 14:09:32 --- nick: HuntrCkr -> HuntrCkr_ZzZz 14:34:51 --- nick: acme -> acme_afk 14:42:45 --- quit: Mathis ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 14:43:40 --- quit: ChillySpy () 14:45:55 --- join: oink_ (~ziga@void.phear.org) joined #osdev 14:46:36 --- quit: oink (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:49:48 --- join: geqo (geqo@3ffe:b80:e7c:0:feed:a:dead:beef) joined #osdev 14:51:23 --- nick: oink_ -> oink 14:51:45 --- join: lynx (~lynx@pD9E63EF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 14:52:05 --- quit: einsteinien ("Client Exiting") 14:54:01 --- join: AppelSap (~daar@213.229.66.98) joined #osdev 14:54:29 --- part: AppelSap left #osdev 15:05:27 --- part: toadx left #osdev 15:15:37 --- join: SLACKo (~SLACKo@62.114.145.208) joined #osdev 15:19:08 --- nick: acme_afk -> acme 15:20:51 --- join: file[ger] (Administra@mctnts14d058.nbnet.nb.ca) joined #osdev 15:20:57 grrrrr 15:21:00 still no technician for the phone line 15:21:11 my step-dad can't even dial in and upload his work 15:23:12 --- join: mandarax (~mandarax@adsl-33-178-171.asm.bellsouth.net) joined #osdev 15:23:49 --- part: drewcifer left #osdev 15:31:06 --- quit: acme () 15:37:28 --- join: _avlovskii (pavlovskii@62.25.153.150) joined #osdev 15:37:29 --- quit: pavlovskii (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:37:44 --- nick: _avlovskii -> pavlovskii 15:48:11 --- quit: file[ger] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:48:38 --- join: file[irritated] (proxy@mctnts04c003.nbnet.nb.ca) joined #osdev 16:08:34 /.'ers loved my "for dummies" sections 16:08:59 eks, geist: u guys should go read em ;) 16:09:28 yeah 16:10:19 "Brix is teh most secure thing you've ever seen" <- that one was funny :) 16:10:31 Heh. 16:12:19 --- quit: file[irritated] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:23:03 --- quit: mandarax () 16:23:35 --- join: toadx (~toadx@65.241.11.2) joined #osdev 16:25:39 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:31:03 --- join: eks (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net) joined #osdev 16:31:07 Hi eks. 16:32:32 --- quit: SLACKo (Remote closed the connection) 16:34:13 eks: go read the brix page 16:38:42 ok.. 16:39:29 --- join: I440r_ (mark4@pool-63.52.217.70.ipls.grid.net) joined #osdev 16:42:23 \(^_^)/ Yay! 16:43:16 Subject: [brix-os - Open Discussion] Well, I *was* interested... 16:43:25 ...until asshead wrote "And it does lots of other cool things but you wouldn't 16:43:25 understand so I'm not gonna tell you" on the Info->About page. 16:43:30 air: ha! 16:43:39 i cant believe u guys didnt catch that last night 16:43:57 no good beta testers :) 16:44:22 air : he meant your bad writing 16:59:46 air: I didn't even read the page yesterday 16:59:54 (nor did I even load it in mozilla) 17:01:12 17:08 /.'ers loved my "for dummies" sections 17:01:12 17:08 eks, geist: u guys should go read em ;) 17:03:19 air: you could have written "my stuff is cool your stuff is shit" in all of those "for dummies" section and you would have revealed as much 17:03:34 air: does the BRiX source from March 23, 2001 only work in early Bochs or will it also run on real hardware? 17:03:41 you should be politician, saying stuff without saying anything 17:03:56 eks: what URL is this? 17:04:25 pavlovskii: brix' site 17:04:38 --- part: EtherNet left #osdev 17:09:04 --- quit: toadx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:19:31 --- join: EtherNet (~ethernet@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 17:19:41 --- quit: I440r_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:21:25 brb 17:21:30 --- quit: EtherNet ("leaving") 17:27:42 --- join: EtherNet (~ethernet@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 17:29:45 Robert: what is the way to connect to another IRC at the same time on irssi ? 17:29:59 ? 17:30:03 "Another IRC"? 17:30:08 hrm.. /server +irc.host.com ? does it makes a new window where the new server is placed on 17:30:23 Robert: yes.. I want to connect more than 1 irc 17:30:50 or /window new and after that /server irc.blahblah.com 17:30:50 Ah. 17:30:56 ? 17:30:57 IRC server, you mean. 17:31:03 Do /connect irc.server.net 17:31:07 sure! 17:31:21 does it make a new window ? 17:31:24 Check irssi.org for info about auto-connecting. 17:31:25 Yes. 17:31:28 where the new irc is placed on ? 17:31:30 EtherNet: just use cria 17:31:37 See, /connect makes a new window, /server does not. 17:31:38 air: ;) 17:31:40 ok 17:31:57 air: heheheh I know it ;P does it work through bnc ? 17:32:12 bnc? 17:32:37 air: sure psybnc, ezbounce, etc? 17:33:16 i dont know what those are 17:33:30 Robert: hey /connect doesn't make a new window 17:34:08 --- quit: EtherNet ("leaving") 17:37:50 --- join: EtherNet (~ethernet@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 17:39:37 --- join: I440r (mark4@pool-63.52.217.18.ipls.grid.net) joined #osdev 17:40:33 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:41:22 does anybody know why IPv6 hasn't replaced IPv4 ? 17:41:50 EtherNet: IPv6 is mostly used on Internet2 17:42:17 eks: ahh ok.. but is there a way to access to Internet 2? 17:42:22 EtherNet: it's integration is just taking a long time before being widespread on Internet(1) due to the very large amount of non-IPv6 compatible hardware installed 17:42:46 EtherNet: no way to access Internet2 unless you are in gov research centers or universities 17:43:16 ahh ok...... 17:43:16 so IPv6 is a missed project 17:43:23 on our Internet ;P 17:45:24 I configured my machine to use IPv6 and it works fine, just there aren't too many IPv6 hosts... 17:45:43 --- join: I440r (mark4@63.52.217.187) joined #osdev 17:46:01 pretty much as soon as you get thru a major router, your ipv6 won't go thru 17:47:41 eks: do you use IPv6? 17:48:01 EtherNet: my hosts are capable of it, my isp isn't 17:49:10 eks: look my host doesn't have support I think.. but I could use for example to join to irc.ipv6.freenode.net, in fact I have connected yesterday without problems 17:49:21 sorry my ISP doesn't have support I think ...... 17:51:36 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-201-214.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 17:56:04 --- quit: pavlovskii (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:11:28 --- join: sto (~apt-get@lemon.silveregg.co.jp) joined #osdev 18:11:59 --- quit: ctkrohn_ (Remote closed the connection) 18:18:01 --- quit: eks ("Zzzz") 18:29:36 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:29:36 IPv6 is all tunnels at this point. 18:29:40 Well, mostly. 18:29:44 --- nick: MagikAway -> Magik 18:30:04 MagikAway: are you using it ? 18:30:09 Yes. 18:30:19 *** Magik is matt@3ffe:b80:1065:1:0:0:0:2 (Matthew Zahorik) 18:30:30 cool me too 18:30:34 I hope to, this spring, set up a wireless network in Albany, NY. 18:30:41 I want to share IPv6 to my whole lan is there a way ? 18:30:44 I'm strongly considering using IPv6 natively. 18:30:51 Sure, get a subnet. 18:31:16 There will be IPv6 to IPv4 proxies to get out of the wireless network. 18:31:37 Magik: subnet ? 18:31:37 hold on 18:31:57 --- quit: JacK|Awy () 18:32:59 Magik: I am sending privates to you EtherNet_ is the nickname, the machine which have IPv6 18:33:00 But for those who care, I can get a slew of IPv6 addresses for the asking. 18:33:29 I saw, was just busy. 18:33:32 --- join: Phasor (~John@ohmh01m01-72.bctel.ca) joined #osdev 18:58:42 --- part: Phasor left #osdev 19:05:55 --- quit: Holofix () 19:08:12 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s27.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 19:09:13 --- join: Divine (~john@12-246-116-35.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 19:09:49 * Kurt is a proud member of the NRA 19:09:54 Charlton Heston is MY president! 19:28:42 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by fear") 19:47:00 --- quit: snorfle ("ircII2.8.2-EPIC3.004 --- Bloatware at its finest.") 19:52:25 --- join: ChillySpy (ChillySpy@ppp110.ppp3.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 19:56:39 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-201-214.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 19:57:41 anybody there ? 19:58:51 me ;) 19:59:04 --- join: ChillySpy2 (ChillySpy@ppp045.ppp1.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 19:59:07 sto: how are you ? 19:59:17 --- quit: ChillySpy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19:59:27 fine 10x, how about you? bored? sleepy? 19:59:36 --- quit: ChillySpy2 (Client Quit) 19:59:40 --- join: ChillySpy (ChillySpy@ppp045.ppp1.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 19:59:43 talking by phone... 19:59:46 ;P 19:59:52 with a stupid girl 20:00:03 is she a _HOT_ stupid girl? 20:00:24 ChillySpy: I think so 20:00:36 well then keep talking 20:00:46 yes... 20:00:46 EtherNet: better to say different, not stupid - if she don't want to talk with OS maniac ;) 20:00:57 she wanna fuxxx everytime lol 20:01:03 sto: heheheh 20:01:09 she is a windowze user! 20:01:23 she sucks then heheh 20:01:38 EtherNet: everybody is free to use what he/she want - even M$ 20:02:06 sto: lol 20:02:12 that's true :( 20:02:13 ethernet - even a hot girl 20:02:16 EtherNet: and if she fuxxx she can even use dos or macos ;) 20:02:22 ESPECIALLY a hot girl 20:02:24 ChillySpy: ;P 20:02:32 sto: ;P 20:03:42 EtherNet - what are your OS plans? 20:04:00 ChillySpy: what I want to do in an OS ? 20:04:05 is that your question ? 20:04:18 well... kinda... when will you START? 20:04:43 and not start with boot sector ;) 20:04:47 I started the circuits... 20:04:47 not the os yet 20:04:52 I'm involved in a strange project 20:04:57 circuits? 20:05:01 oh... the Pic 20:05:08 --- quit: lynx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:05:10 ChillySpy: I'm making my own machine 20:05:14 sure 20:05:15 yeah i remember 20:05:28 thats sweet 20:05:38 ;P 20:05:41 Multi-Processors? 20:05:57 ChillySpy: the pic will be kinda processor 20:06:05 kinda processor? 20:06:16 kind of processor 20:07:39 sort of processor (that's same, though) 20:07:39 how many? 20:07:55 ChillySpy: I think you don't understand my project.. 20:08:06 I will start an OS which run on a pic.. 20:08:07 maybe 20:08:11 I'm making the circuits at the moment 20:08:17 gates, "memory", etc.. 20:08:41 EEPROM --> will be like a memory to load small apps 20:09:02 yeah 20:09:18 that's my goal 20:09:26 the OS will manage the devices.. 20:09:31 EEPROM, gates, etc.. 20:09:43 well is it a mini computer? 20:09:53 sure 20:10:08 it shouldn't be named as computer 20:10:20 just a processor.. to make adds, substractions, etc.. 20:10:24 couldnt you have many pics ... multiprocessors? 20:10:39 I have no idea yet... 20:10:53 I wanna make 1 running ;P 20:10:58 get ^ 20:11:20 in theory i think its possible... but 2 i/o ports have to be taken up for the connection between the two processors 20:11:37 sure 20:11:49 ChillySpy: how old are you ? 20:12:07 16 20:12:18 sto: where are you from? Japan >? 20:12:22 ChillySpy: okas 20:12:39 u? 20:12:58 16 20:14:08 EtherNet: i'm bulgarian in japan 20:14:20 sto: okas 20:16:01 --- quit: ChillySpy () 20:19:56 --- quit: sto ("Client Exiting") 21:12:56 --- quit: I440r () 21:23:48 --- join: Holofix (Holofix@ptd-24-198-99-217.maine.rr.com) joined #osdev 21:29:50 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:33:01 --- quit: HuntrCkr_ZzZz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:43:01 --- join: dash (washort@adsl-17-177-201.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined #osdev 21:50:23 --- join: lynx (~lynx@pD95447C7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 22:07:39 --- join: geist (~geist@dsl-65-191-44-105.telocity.com) joined #osdev 22:08:38 anybody use IPv6 here ? 22:08:48 i used to 22:09:38 dash: ohh excellent, I need your help then 22:09:43 I have 2 machines, one is gateway 22:09:50 and it has a valid IPv6 on Internet 22:10:07 I want to add that machine as route to browse IPv6 address from the other machine 22:10:12 is there a way ? 22:10:15 yes. 22:10:35 dash: can you explain me ? 22:11:07 EtherNet: well, it's the same as setting up an ipv4 route 22:11:32 look 22:11:39 just change the address family you're fiddling with 22:11:45 to inet6 instead of inet 22:11:47 I can ping6 the other machine (Link IPv6 address) but I can't add it to route table 22:11:51 look 22:11:52 why not? 22:11:54 root@dallas# route -A inet6 add gw fe80::c0:26de:6874 22:11:54 getaddrinfo: gw: -3 22:12:16 i think you need "add default gw" there 22:12:17 gw: Host name lookup failure 22:12:17 root@dallas# 22:12:17 root@dallas# ping6 fe80::c0:26de:6874 22:12:24 PING fe80::c0:26de:6874(fe80::c0:26de:6874) from fe80::e894:b909 : 56 data bytes 22:12:24 64 bytes from fe80::c0:26de:6874: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.36 ms 22:12:25 Is IPv6 just using 6 bytes instead of 4? 22:12:32 dash: mmm it doesn't work 22:12:48 Holofix: using 2**6 bits instead of 2**4 22:12:49 hold on 22:13:01 root@dallas:~# route -A inet6 add default gw fe80::c0:26de:6874 22:13:07 SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument 22:13:07 root@dallas:~# 22:13:16 oh cute. 22:13:30 * dash tries to remember how he did this 22:13:32 ? 22:13:45 ok 22:14:17 what should I add as gw the Link IPv6 address or Global IPv6 addrss? 22:14:25 the global one 22:14:58 inet6 addr: 3ffe:b80:10be:1::1/64 Scope:Global 22:14:58 inet6 addr: fe80::c0:26de:6874/10 Scope:Link 22:15:04 I was trying the local one 22:15:10 should I add 3ffe:b80:10be:1::1 ? 22:15:28 I can't ping that address.. 22:15:34 that's for Internet I think 22:16:03 yeah, fe80 means it's a loopback address... 22:16:25 okas but I can't ping the 3ffe address in my LAN 22:16:38 EtherNet: what does "route -A inet6" print out? 22:16:58 Kernel IPv6 routing table 22:17:01 Destination Next Hop 22:17:01 Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 22:17:01 ::1/128 :: 22:17:05 U 0 20 0 lo 22:17:05 fe80::e894:b909/128 :: 22:17:07 U 0 63 1 lo 22:17:07 fe80::/10 :: 22:17:10 UA 256 0 0 eth0 22:17:12 ff00::/8 :: 22:17:15 UA 256 0 0 eth0 22:17:18 root@dallas:~# 22:17:21 this isn't the gateway just a workstation machine here 22:17:22 ok, loopback addresses only so far... 22:17:35 the gate has a longer list 22:17:45 with other address 22:17:57 addresses 22:19:01 hm yeah 22:19:10 but can the gateway ping the other box? 22:19:40 yes 22:19:43 root@mesias# ping6 fe80::e894:b909 22:19:43 PING fe80::e894:b909(fe80::e894:b909) 56 data bytes 22:19:56 64 bytes from fe80::e894:b909: icmp_seq=0 time=2.8 ms 22:19:56 the gate to this machine (which isn't the gate) 22:20:08 hmm 22:20:15 i've forgotten all the stuff i knew about ipv6 :) 22:20:39 okas 22:22:45 --- quit: nbsp ("sleep! -_-.zZ") 22:26:34 yarg 22:34:08 --- quit: EtherNet (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:38:02 --- join: EtherNet (~ethernet@lu9dcn.ampr.org) joined #osdev 22:43:59 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-201-214.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 22:58:08 --- quit: Javanx ("I don't feel a thing, and i stopped remembering. The days are just like moments tourned to hours") 23:05:30 --- part: geist left #osdev 23:16:25 --- join: DorkPunk (l33t3sth4x@207-173-195-132.academicplanet.com) joined #osdev 23:16:28 Hello, anyone here? 23:16:32 maybe 23:17:25 --- join: pengo (pengo@thump.bur.st) joined #osdev 23:17:41 hello. 23:17:51 hola 23:17:53 air 23:17:55 ! 23:17:57 Why is it that one should not read from the CMOS (on x86) with interrupts enabled? 23:17:59 I don't understand. 23:17:59 i saw you got slashdotted 23:17:59 pengo! 23:18:07 yes i did 23:18:26 how has it changed your life? 23:18:38 35000 hits to the sf.net site 23:19:21 fark 23:19:28 35000 on the 18th, dunno about today 23:19:42 9 hrs i got 35000 hits 23:19:57 anything useful come of it? :) 23:20:24 not really :) 23:20:50 heh 23:20:55 i did learn that no one has a clue what brix is 23:21:07 so i add "for dummies" sections tothe page 23:21:15 yup :) 23:21:23 lots of ppl liked em, a couple ppl flamed me 23:21:41 im an arrogant asshead 23:21:55 the messags on /. looked mostly like flame.. but that's expected 23:22:12 they had no clue what brix is 23:22:17 "i haven't looked at this project but you mentioned xyz buzzword so of course it can't work" 23:22:24 heh 23:22:41 i have selected a handful of good responces and am about to post em on the site 23:22:43 of course it cant work, it isn't unix 23:22:49 heh cool :) 23:22:52 ;) 23:23:00 and it's not finnish! 23:23:11 about 200+ comments and 2 so far were good 23:23:18 pengo: eh, no problem there, jsut tell them you have some finn's brain in a jar 23:23:20 and im almost to the bottom :) 23:23:36 so you guys got slashdotted, huh 23:23:52 just 'guy' 23:24:35 i just happened to read slashdot today and noticed it.. i dont read /. much these days either 23:25:26 is it a faux pas to submit yourself to slashdot? 23:25:32 i really wanna find out who the dick was that posted the article 23:25:37 I do believe it is =) 23:25:57 haha you don't know?? 23:26:00 because my server is throttled down to 1k/s and only allows 4 connections 23:26:17 so it seemed like it was under slashdot effect 23:26:30 and ppl went to google and used an old cached copy of the site 23:26:40 oops :) 23:27:01 even tho google only links to sf.net 23:27:08 haha 23:27:28 i guess they thought the sf.net would take em back to qzx.com 23:28:05 * DorkPunk does the "I don't understand, I hate myself and want to die!" dance. 23:28:06 air: tell me about slashdot? what happened? 23:28:34 haha, google was cached on 4jul 23:28:48 no src code to crush back then 23:28:52 man they should warn people before they slashdot them 23:29:03 they should 23:29:40 but then the news could be really old 23:29:56 if they had to wait for each webmaster to respond 23:30:07 well even if they didn't wait 23:30:14 and just sent a notice 24h before :) 23:30:16 yeah, but brix isn't "news" 23:30:28 true 23:30:49 big sites like sf.net they could post immediately cuz they know it can handle the load 23:31:00 yup 23:31:04 or other news sites 23:31:18 they shold wait for google to update their cache before posting other sites :) 23:31:26 heh 23:32:05 What is this "sf.net?" 23:32:08 when i make a strange, slashdottable project i'll put a notice on it asking them to do just that 23:32:11 sourceforge.net 23:32:25 pengo - Ah, lovely. 23:33:37 in other news.. this hp laserjet stuffed up and boy does the stuffup look awesome 23:33:47 pengo: i was gonna put a notice on my site asking ppl to please not submit it to /. yet and if they did to PLEASE use the sf.net url 23:33:53 but i never got around to it 23:34:03 heh well now you suffer for it :) 23:34:11 hmm, i guess i can remove it from my TODO file now :) 23:34:15 heh 23:34:16 lol 23:34:41 air: what should you remove from TODO ? 23:34:41 air: what have you done ? 23:34:53 i want to write a printer driver emulator just so i can screw with it and generate stuffup pages 23:35:32 i had looked at brix a while back and didn't think much of it 23:35:41 but if eihrul is helping you guys now it must be cool ^_^ 23:35:49 heh 23:36:08 he wanted a lispy OS to succede and to be fast 23:36:12 yes 23:36:14 dash: quick.. get onto slashdot and add that comment :) 23:36:23 haha 23:36:27 dash: who's eihrul ? 23:36:32 dash: yes do :) 23:36:34 EtherNet: lee salzman 23:36:36 the Alan Cox's brother ? 23:36:44 air: hah 23:36:49 air: i stay away from slashdot. :) 23:36:55 EtherNet: eihrul, now known as novo 23:37:14 dash: its still just one guy 23:37:25 air: but what should you remove from todo ? 23:37:29 hm, what is? 23:37:38 dash: there is only one guy 23:37:53 doing what? 23:38:10 alan cox has a coding brother?? 23:38:14 00:23 so you guys got slashdotted, huh 23:38:15 00:23 just 'guy' 23:38:36 air: oh, right :) 23:39:02 * dash tends to think of all coding projects as group efforts now, no matter how many people work on it at the moment 23:39:11 heh 23:39:16 pengo: evil twin, i thought 23:39:42 novo has pretty much done all he is gonna do for brix 23:39:54 air: will you tell me ? 23:40:05 EtherNet: read what i said 23:40:24 yes but what do you mean when say "slashdotted" ? 23:40:41 EtherNet: 35000 page hits in 9hrs 23:41:02 air: yes! but about what???? Brix ? 23:41:12 http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=last_30&group_id=23816 23:41:22 cool 23:41:23 yes brix 23:41:30 I know now... 23:41:34 air: congratulations! :P 23:41:45 slashdotted: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/18/2053259 23:43:24 sf.net has been kinda slow today 23:44:19 that graph is funny :) 23:44:22 * EtherNet is away: trying to sleep... 23:45:13 i know 23:46:26 3031 total page views excluding slashdot 23:47:08 in last 30 days 23:47:37 eh? 23:47:41 i show 2000 23:48:12 oh 23:48:18 2000 for august 23:50:11 sf really need to invest in a logirhythmic scale. 23:51:28 heh 23:51:52 and i need to invest in a dictionary 23:52:18 :) 23:52:33 who's this 'lonzo loser? 23:53:05 00:52 NOTICE -- AutoKick List for [#osdev] -- 23:53:10 00:52 NOTICE 2 *!*@*.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com AlonzoTG 23:53:39 thats him 23:54:22 OooooOO. 23:54:24 I do know him. 23:54:34 u like him? 23:54:42 I don't care either way. 23:55:07 You know the kid who was spamming osnews about his terminal babyos with telnet 23:55:16 pretty sad for him to air his dirty laundry on /. 23:55:16 and it was a piece of crap using dos ints w/o dos? 23:55:35 pengo:/. is /dev/sad 23:55:37 lol 23:56:20 I knew that kid and kinda liked him when I talked to him on irc. He was polite an unassuming... 23:56:27 then later I found out he was a complete tard 23:56:32 alonzo can actully be bring joy to the channel sometimes 23:56:42 So it can go both ways. 23:56:54 on his page he's a self declared manic depressive 23:56:57 like the time he posted his root passwd to the channel and asked someone to telnet in and help him 23:57:15 I think I might be manic depressive :/ 23:57:18 lets just say he soon timedout and came back in a different OS 23:57:19 [ http://users.rcn.com/alangrimes/ ] for the curious.. got the url from his slashdot post 23:57:28 did he learn his lesson? nope 23:57:49 hahaha 23:57:55 he later posted his paswd to #newos but that time they rm'd his hdd and not just the partition 23:58:18 why oh why?? 23:58:23 a social experiment perhaps? 23:58:37 or was he just that stupid??? 23:58:41 i so badly want to dig up all the logs about him and post on /. 23:58:50 but that would make me look like a bad person :) 23:59:06 he was that stupid 23:59:20 Air....that would make you a bad person... 23:59:37 he was running ppl off my osdev mailing list several years ago and had to keep banning him 23:59:50 Youre not an aussie are you? 23:59:51 hmm 23:59:57 i'm aussie 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/02.08.19