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hows brix? 00:25:04 --- join: huntrckr (~huntrckr@myr53-01-p198.gt.saix.net) joined #osdev 00:25:10 lo 00:25:46 --- join: revanthn (revanthn@202.9.183.168) joined #osdev 00:25:50 hi guys 00:26:02 hi revanthn 00:26:13 huntrckr:hi 00:27:44 how does one pronounce your nick? 00:28:09 ray - wonth 00:28:31 k 00:28:55 actually i have a other nick 00:28:58 it's prizark 00:29:02 you can remember it thatw way 00:29:20 *sigh* 00:29:43 * huntrckr sighs too ;) 00:29:53 ;0 00:29:54 how come? 00:30:16 it seems like the in thing to do :) 00:30:35 ic 00:30:38 ;) 00:31:29 hmmm... i need to recompile kde... 3.0.4 is out 00:31:44 oh yes, make sure you run the absolute latest 00:31:47 now now now now 00:31:49 compile it! 00:31:54 you're wasting time 00:31:58 00:32:13 haha 00:32:15 hehe... i think i'll wait till i have about 24 hours of nothing to do 00:32:33 hey air 00:32:39 how you doing? 00:32:41 hey huntrckr 00:32:55 ok 00:34:58 moo. 00:35:35 heya dax 00:35:52 daxy :) 00:36:05 :) 00:36:17 can i start using your forth compiler yet? 00:36:21 :p 00:36:25 uhm no 00:36:27 forth ;) 00:36:30 cool 00:36:30 it's an absolute pos. 00:36:58 dax:did you start your design for the forth compilers 00:37:18 hmm? 00:37:58 dax:i thought you said you wanted to design a compiler for forth 00:38:36 i'm writing one even!ç 00:38:37 hmm 00:38:56 dax: writing what? 00:39:03 a forth compiler 00:39:09 sounds fun 00:39:16 * wli ponders hacking on wlix after the freeze. 00:39:22 wlix? 00:39:29 dax wanted to write a forth compiler 00:39:39 omg this sucks 00:39:43 sleep-: wlix == my kernel 00:39:46 ic 00:39:49 whats it like? 00:40:00 sleep-: mostly unimplemented 00:40:17 sleep-: GDT, IDT, TSS, and stack switching in the timer int. i.e. "multithreaded hello world" 00:40:35 ic - i have a manual task switcher w/threads and crappy memory management 00:40:38 thats about it - 00:40:41 wli:what OS are you talking about 00:40:42 oh and PCI bus probing 00:40:46 my big problem is i don't know how to write a decent compiler 00:40:48 revanthn: wlix 00:40:49 daxos uber alles! 00:41:00 ;) 00:41:03 gdt, tss, idt, paging, slab allocater, multithreaded, ipc 00:41:07 dax: compiler is easy, decent compiler is not 00:41:13 daxos: another internet myth ;) 00:41:21 grr. 00:41:21 I guess I set up pagetables but I don't have userspace. 00:41:30 i got userspace 00:41:33 i should do paging next 00:41:55 12kb kernel... hmm 00:42:09 needs to be cleaned though 00:42:12 alot of crap in it 00:42:22 like the irq handling is really shitty 00:42:22 ic - i have all the PCI device strings in mine - so its big :) 00:42:39 sleep:What's the URL 00:42:52 none really - i have www.microkernel.com, but i think theres nothing there 00:42:59 dax: how'd you pull off a 12KB kernel? 00:43:11 dax: few static tables? 00:43:14 12k is not bad for a starter kernel 00:43:18 with no filesystem :) 00:43:32 i got some kind of forth lexer and forth parser with flex & bison... but it really sucks 00:43:33 hmm 00:43:39 filesystem doesn't belong in the kernel. 00:43:44 ic - screw lex & yacc 00:43:55 how about a persistent database though? 00:44:06 with a filesystem ontop in user land? 00:44:13 filesystem doesn't belong in the kernel for microkernels not for monolithich kernels 00:44:14 dax: where'd you get info on using flex & bison 00:44:15 * sleep- would argue TCP doesnt belong in the kernel either 00:44:21 like nemesis or something 00:44:24 huntrckr: info flex and info bison heh 00:44:29 dax: hehe :) 00:44:49 sleep-: well you own microkernel.com, so you should know that a filesystem doesn't belong in the kernel :) 00:44:54 yeah - :) 00:44:58 i know 00:45:01 but im lazy too 00:45:12 so even though its called 'microkernel.com' its monolithic 00:45:19 at the moment anyway 00:45:26 have you tried oberon? 00:45:36 yes, long long ago though 00:45:51 even got a book on the oberon compiler construction 00:45:51 hmm 00:45:53 it sucks :) 00:46:07 sleep:isn't the source code released yet 00:46:36 rev: for oberon? 00:46:55 not sure i think for microkernel.com 00:46:59 dax: yeah - i know a total oberon fanatic guy whos always trying to get me to use it 00:47:05 is oberon the name of that O 00:47:07 er *OS 00:47:08 rev: oh, no - but i can email you a copy 00:47:12 os and language 00:47:16 rev: it sucks currently - dont get your hopes up 00:47:32 rev: no, my os will get a name when it does something new or interesting 00:47:38 i check each and every OS code 00:47:38 ;) 00:47:49 ic - ill send you mine - you can tell me what you think 00:48:29 sure DCC it 00:48:40 k 00:48:42 one sec 00:54:33 yo - you here? 00:55:44 ~splat 00:55:50 geist! 00:55:55 sup dax 00:56:09 working on crapForth (aka my compiler) 00:56:15 heh 00:56:23 what part are you working on? 00:56:39 the lexer/parser can now recognise do-loop, if-then and if-else-then blocks 00:56:47 ic 00:56:52 * sleep- doesnt even know forth 00:56:55 sleep-: oberon sucks? 00:57:04 so i cant even imagine what the symbol table managemet would be like 00:57:08 my problem is that i don't really know what i should do with bison 00:57:10 air: well - is some ways 00:57:20 air: they have a new multiple-process one 00:57:30 air: previous version was single theaded 00:57:44 * air gets his bat 00:57:47 :) 00:57:50 hehe 00:58:06 * sleep- hasnt tried the multi--threaded one 00:58:13 they focused more on language correctness in the beginning 00:58:22 because the os and language are integrated 00:58:31 eh, another one of those 00:58:35 ;) 00:58:53 geist: i guess i should push it all in a tree or whatever? 00:59:09 dax: you've done the easy part 00:59:18 now it's like 'what the hell do I do with this' 00:59:28 dax: i guess that depends on what forth is like 00:59:47 sleep-: stack based language, very simple "syntax" 00:59:50 ic 01:00:03 lexers/parsers are a done deal. that's been studied, established, classified, etc 01:03:48 hmm 01:03:55 geist: any hints on what to do next? 01:04:17 this is a compiler or interpreter? 01:04:27 compiler 01:04:35 what do you need to output? 01:04:57 i guess assembler would be fine, no need to write my own assembler afaik 01:05:08 oh? so you're compiling forth -> native? 01:05:12 dax: doing a forth? 01:05:14 is that normally done for forth? 01:05:18 yes forth->native 01:05:24 no it isn't normally done for forth afaik 01:05:28 hmm 01:05:31 that's why i want to do it :) 01:05:50 that may make it difficult, since I imagine the language may have constructs that are hard to do without a complex runtime 01:05:56 though probably not 01:06:01 forth is known to be very simple 01:06:14 hmm i don't see any hard constructs... 01:06:30 okay, then you need to get really familiar with the output 01:06:34 binary layout, asm, etc 01:06:41 really know what you're setting out to do 01:06:47 otherwise you'll be groping in the darkness 01:06:56 i think you should output xml 01:07:08 then write an xml->platform-specific converted 01:07:15 knowing very well the input and the output will help you design it 01:07:40 hmm geist, that's pretty logical :) 01:08:22 basicly everything is a word (function like thing) in forth... 01:08:35 +, -, *, <, > and all can be handled like that afaik 01:08:56 right 01:08:57 the anoying ones are if-else-then, do-loop, the while and case thinggies 01:09:09 and maybe the constant and variable creating ones 01:09:16 and ofcourse ." string" 01:09:48 dax: how do you resist the urge to implement your own language? 01:10:15 so maybe the easiest thing to do would be to organise everything in a dictionary, then decide which ones to inline and generate the code 01:10:27 yes 01:10:32 sleep-: easy, i'm happy with the available ones :) 01:10:39 ic :) 01:10:45 * sleep- always wants to redo everything 01:10:52 one of the tactics they did in our compiler class was generate unoptimized 'three address' code 01:11:05 whats that/ 01:11:05 ? 01:11:20 ie, the parser would do the type checking, symbol table stuff, and then generate a simple assembly for a simple, nonexistant machine 01:11:28 with an infinite number of registers 01:11:43 so for example, a = 4 + 5 would be 01:11:47 mov r1,4 01:11:50 ic 01:11:51 mov r2,5 01:11:55 infinite registers :) 01:11:59 add r3,r1,r2 01:12:03 mov r4,r3 01:12:04 wow 01:12:15 sorcerer linux has an easy install 01:12:25 air: whats that distro focus on? 01:12:29 much much nicer than gentoo 01:12:35 ic 01:12:44 sorcerer is a source based linux like gentoo 01:12:48 gentoo > sorcerer imo... 01:12:51 ic - those are the best kinds 01:12:53 so then the optimizing stage has a relatively simple task of converting that assembly into the real asm 01:12:56 but i'm just a weirdo :) 01:13:04 dan: gentoo has **no** install 01:13:11 much of the tricks of generating real code is register allocation 01:13:21 rly? 01:13:29 and you can relatively easily look at that three address code and optimize it out 01:13:37 look for blocks, do register flow analysis 01:13:50 expression optimization and caching, etc 01:14:32 and the nice thing is that seperates the code generation stage from the compilation stage 01:14:40 ic 01:14:48 hmm 01:14:56 now obviously it's much much more complicated than that 01:15:05 but doing things in stages like that helps out 01:15:11 i wouldn't mind seeing a decent example of a simple, working compiler writting using flex/bison 01:15:23 --- join: lodda (Lothar@p508FD9EF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 01:15:25 1) makes it more modular and easy to manage 01:15:26 --- join: prizark (revanthn@202.9.183.181) joined #osdev 01:15:31 dax: you are being thwarted by the tools 01:15:34 2) easier to replace sections 01:15:38 dax: write your own lexer 01:15:39 :) 01:15:47 good morning 01:15:51 geist: cool - ive always wanted to write an assembler 01:15:58 dan: look at the crush src 01:16:03 --- nick: prizark -> revanth 01:16:05 3) keeps a newbie from trying to tackle everything at once 01:16:09 i wrote my own lexer... problem is it ubercrap 01:16:16 use flex 01:16:25 yes i'm using it now :) 01:16:31 believe me, using flex/bison is much much easier in the end 01:16:42 * geist digs around for his compiler he wrote in college 01:16:58 geist:you wrote a compiler 01:17:04 not a very good one 01:17:12 but the basics of one 01:17:15 flex/bison makes things easy but not good 01:17:21 sleep:you still here 01:17:30 lexing/parsing is the easy part 01:17:33 sorry about the disconnect i have to surface scan my damn hardisk 01:17:37 geist: what did it compile? 01:17:37 flex/bison only help you with that 01:17:46 ya geist is right 01:17:51 code generation is our job 01:17:55 a simpler c++ 01:18:13 you mean a C with OOP or something 01:18:17 rev: ya 01:18:22 yah 01:18:30 my damn harddriver is troubling me 01:18:40 i bought it only two months back 01:18:58 what kind? 01:19:59 it's a samsung 40GB HDD 01:20:06 my main problem is i don't really know how to implement the rest, stuck on the implementation :( 01:20:22 dax: what part is confusing? 01:20:22 * geist looks at the project from college, sees if it'll compile 01:20:26 it's pretty complicated 01:20:35 well it isn't confusing me 01:21:55 --- quit: revanthn (Connection timed out) 01:22:45 just simplified my parser alot 01:24:38 much better now 01:24:54 dax: what did you do? 01:25:17 just noticed that i could unite a few rules without any problems 01:27:28 anyone have lilo setup to boot beos and windows? 01:27:49 air: i used to do that with linux and beos v3.x 01:27:53 worked ok with lilo 01:28:12 i had it working but forgot how 01:28:23 ic - i think i needed windows98 to install beos 01:28:25 that annoyed me 01:29:05 heh, this is pretty neat 01:29:14 I dug up my old project from college 01:29:23 did it work 01:29:29 since it had to be turned in on a solaris box, I had saved the final binary 01:29:40 I just ran it on my solaris 9 box and it works fine 01:30:05 most of the time they gave us a working copy of the final solution actually 01:30:19 binary only, to test if you're accurate 01:30:29 but I can still run it 01:30:56 --- nick: huntrckr -> huntrckr_away 01:31:25 --- join: witten (~witten@adsl-gte-la-216-86-199-140.mminternet.com) joined #osdev 01:31:37 hi witten 01:31:40 hi 01:32:47 howdy 01:33:12 geist: could ya send me the soruce code then? 01:33:20 you dont really want it 01:33:26 it's pretty messed up 01:33:42 ah.. 01:34:13 dax:did you read any books on compiler design and construction 01:34:32 yes 01:34:44 most compiler books seem to suck 01:34:44 name some Title's 01:34:59 the one by wirth 01:35:04 it reallly reallllllyyy sucks. 01:35:10 but some are very practical 01:35:34 i have one that was released on the net for free 01:35:51 "Compiler Construction using Flex and Bison" ? 01:35:52 revanth: which one? 01:35:53 hmm 01:35:54 cool 01:35:56 it has a compiler/interpreter clang and a macro assembler source code explaining it 01:36:11 i don't know the name but clang is pretty popular 01:36:19 what is clang? 01:36:28 it's a compiler/interpreter 01:36:32 ic 01:36:36 sleep:let me check it if i can find it 01:36:40 k 01:36:41 thanks 01:38:14 sleep:the Books name is Compilers and Compilers Generators i think it was written by PD Terry 01:38:18 try a google search 01:38:21 rev: cool, thanks i will 01:38:49 no prob 01:39:12 * sleep- is still focused on OS internals - ill write a language when im old :) 01:39:40 how old are you now 01:39:43 30 01:39:52 i guess thats old sorta :P 01:41:12 sleep- guess what i found that link 01:41:18 cool 01:41:26 * sleep- needs more papers to read 01:46:09 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-202-213.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 01:46:24 hi trans 01:58:05 I need to figure out a lot more about hardware and/or drivers 01:58:24 if it isn't attached to the cpu I currently don't understand it 01:58:50 www.0xfi.com/oslib that has a lot of hardware stuff 01:58:56 --- quit: sleep- (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:58:56 --- quit: lar1 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:58:57 --- quit: dax (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:58:57 --- quit: Magik (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:58:57 --- quit: 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quit: revanth () 02:04:31 grr 02:05:07 --- quit: malenfant (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:10:03 this doesn't work :( 02:29:34 too bad! 02:48:07 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:48:26 hmm 02:56:33 hmm again 02:59:46 --- join: Znipa (Znipa@p5084D467.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 02:59:53 hi 03:00:48 howdy 03:01:10 --- quit: sleep- ("bbl") 03:10:39 --- join: Amon-Re (ddefreyne@D5E0642D.kabel.telenet.be) joined #osdev 03:11:30 atoi() to convert a string to an int, is there a function that converts an int to a string? 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05:10:12 hi lynx 05:10:13 anyone knows some cool startup messages? 05:12:00 tach lodda ;) 05:12:09 * do is away: watching the movie ...call me at the private 05:13:48 Znipa: hallo :) 05:13:51 :) 05:15:24 --- join: stefano (~stefano@212.171.206.207) joined #osdev 05:15:36 an alle mit T-DSL: ist eure verbindung auch so scheisse in letzer zeit? 05:15:49 inwiefern? 05:16:01 --- quit: stefano (Client Quit) 05:16:11 ich erreich kaum noch seiten...die geschwindigkeit ist normal.. 05:16:23 z.B. 05:16:30 www.sourceforge.net 05:16:36 oder auch google.de 05:16:47 (kein scheiss) 05:17:11 bei mir gehts wenn auch etwas langsam 05:21:13 --- quit: steros ("Uscita dal client") 05:30:00 --- part: Znipa left #osdev 05:33:40 --- quit: lynx ("BitchX-1.0c19 -- just do it.") 05:36:17 --- join: lynx (~lynx@p50809F72.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 05:36:38 --- join: rg (~blank@b-airlock079.esatclear.ie) joined #osdev 05:50:46 --- quit: gab (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:51:05 --- join: gab 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joined #osdev 08:52:42 moo! 08:55:32 moo. 08:56:40 moo! 08:56:49 how moo you today? 08:58:59 --- quit: DRF ("Off to watch TV") 09:00:42 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:06:56 --- join: tirloni (~gpt@1-042.mganm700-1.telepar.net.br) joined #osdev 09:10:58 --- quit: file[downstairs] () 09:16:14 --- nick: __asmodeus__ -> asmodeus 09:21:28 --- join: Javanx (~javanx@213.45.18.199) joined #osdev 09:28:38 --- join: dax_ (~you@u212-239-163-222.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 09:42:02 --- join: lodda (Lothar@p508FCB36.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:42:09 here am i, your god! 09:44:45 i'm atheist 09:45:02 --- quit: dax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:45:28 --- join: file[radio] (proxy@mctn1-2444.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 09:47:56 mur: you will die... 09:48:21 Die! 09:48:23 why? 09:48:36 I command you. 09:48:43 File Radio in 1 hour and 13 minutes! 09:49:00 invalid command 09:49:43 anybody know a good place where to download distros from linux? wanna try something new.. 09:49:52 mmm 09:50:37 filus? 09:54:09 --- quit: lynx ("BitchX-1.0c19 -- just do it.") 09:54:24 filus? 09:54:32 filii 09:55:22 hrmm..no good place to downloads linux-distros available? :( 09:55:52 mirrors everywhere 09:55:55 you just have to dinf them 09:55:56 frind 09:55:58 fring 09:56:00 find 09:56:02 gaaah! 09:56:03 --- quit: file[radio] () 09:57:07 well, i mean something where are tons of linux distros 09:57:41 what distro you want? 10:03:26 no special 10:03:44 just a few to look at and then decide if i download one 10:12:53 that's not the same 10:12:54 --- quit: kaze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:12:56 google 10:17:18 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s34.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 10:24:05 cya 10:24:13 --- quit: mur ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over IRC.") 10:30:34 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-202-213.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 10:31:19 --- nick: eks[Zzz] -> eks 10:45:15 --- join: ChillySpy (ChillySpy@ppp212.ppp6.cleveland.nccw.net) joined #osdev 10:50:55 morning eks! 10:56:27 we have 8 pm here 10:56:38 eks probably has 8 am 10:57:12 heh 10:57:32 * lodda is impressed 10:57:33 eks has 12:57 :) 10:57:40 ah 10:57:43 ok 10:57:53 why does he sleep so long? 10:57:56 :) 10:59:50 must be depressed 11:00:10 lol 11:00:17 I was awake since 7am in #uuu, not in #osdev 11:00:18 :P 11:00:25 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp81624.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 11:02:59 hrmm 11:03:06 hi wossname ;) 11:03:16 bbl 11:03:41 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:08:44 --- join: file[radio] (proxy@mctn1-3130.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 11:10:31 lodda: ---> da deine linux distros (und non-linux distros) http://www.linuxiso.org/ 11:14:27 --- join: cookin (~jrydberg@d212-151-96-168.swipnet.se) joined #osdev 11:26:13 --- part: ChillySpy left #osdev 11:30:49 --- join: file2 (Tux889@mctn1-1664.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 11:31:49 --- join: cr0 (cr0@pcp01118647pcs.flshng01.mi.comcast.net) joined #osdev 11:47:51 --- nick: geist-sleep -> geist 11:52:20 --- quit: cr0 () 11:54:12 --- join: Chille (~bajs123@h73n2fls32o811.telia.com) joined #osdev 11:54:31 --- join: Ghiottone (~alex@ppp-56-17.27-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 11:59:36 --- quit: cookin ("Client Exiting") 12:15:39 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by ear") 12:17:54 --- quit: Divine (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:28:38 --- join: DRF (Daniel@host213-121-68-247.surfport24.v21.co.uk) joined #osdev 12:31:52 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-202-213.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 12:36:03 * do is back (gone 07:23:56) 12:37:21 --- quit: wossname ("my stars, it's full of god!") 12:51:14 --- quit: file2 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:52:21 --- nick: dax_ -> dax 12:54:44 hum 12:55:30 --- nick: gpf -> gpf`afk 12:57:37 yeah 12:57:39 ho hum 12:58:29 hola! 12:59:35 hola! 12:59:39 como estas? 13:00:05 ¿ 13:00:10 there's that button :P 13:00:28 ¿como estás? 13:01:02 fine, thanks! and you? 13:01:23 muy bien, gracías. 13:01:57 are you an OSDeveloper too? 13:02:02 y ¿de dondé eras? 13:02:06 sí! 13:02:08 err 13:02:13 ¡sí! 13:02:29 osdev es mi vida 13:02:51 heh 13:03:27 well, I guess I gotta go to work 13:03:35 aye...hasta luego 13:03:39 bye geist. 13:03:40 have some stuff I need to get done before tomorrow 13:03:46 hahaha 13:03:49 pobrecito :( 13:03:50 adios indigo 13:04:02 and I started my machine at home building X so it's out of commission for a while 13:04:07 darkito: geist, no yo 13:04:15 eeek 13:04:18 adios geist 13:04:24 --- nick: geist -> geist-work 13:04:51 indigo : de dónde eres' 13:04:53 ? 13:05:02 Michigan, USA :P 13:05:13 lejos lejos xD 13:05:21 :) 13:05:36 --- part: geist-work left #osdev 13:05:40 pero...muy cerca de canada! :D 13:05:47 heheh 13:06:04 indigo: Helio? 13:06:46 file[radio]: el Helio está en mi lista 13:07:16 got to go. bye all 13:07:22 luego... 13:07:48 --- part: Ghiottone left #osdev 13:08:10 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:15:22 mooooo 13:15:29 --- join: Angres (humberto@baydeh2-48.baydenet.com.br) joined #osdev 13:16:12 MOO FOO 13:16:59 MOO FOO? 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16:50:43 EtherNet: do you have Avril Lavignes Sk8er Boy MP3 yet? 16:50:48 EtherNet: I'm great 16:50:53 OBVIOUSLY!!! 16:51:00 lol - I didn't know if you would 16:51:03 * file had a hard time finding it 16:51:10 ;PPPP 16:51:12 KaZaa 16:51:18 I have found it over there 16:51:29 * file prepares for the task of installing Windows 2000 on a P133 with 40mb of RAM 16:51:36 damn! 16:51:48 I want to see how S-L-O-W it will be 16:51:55 I have done it on this machine Pentium 166 MHz, but Win XP, it has taken too muchtime! 16:52:01 lol 16:52:05 WinXP is all graphics, that's why 16:52:26 I still have to unzip this .zip of the install files 16:52:40 it's 319mb lol 16:52:45 LOLOLLLLL 16:53:08 it's going to take awhile... to say the least 16:53:21 Moving PRO.ZIP to D: 16:55:04 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-202-213.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 16:56:16 --- quit: do[done] (Remote closed the connection) 16:57:06 file: ok my friend, I must go to do something 16:57:08 I will be back 16:57:34 k 16:57:36 ttyl! 16:57:46 --- part: EtherNet left #osdev 17:03:10 --- nick: gpf`afk -> gpf 17:10:36 --- quit: lynx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:12:34 --- quit: Ghiottone ("Uscita dal client") 17:13:34 --- quit: Javanx ("I don't feel a thing, and i stopped remembering. The days are just like moments tourned to hours") 17:26:27 --- quit: file () 17:30:26 --- quit: dan () 17:31:29 anyone have lilo setup to dual boot windows? 17:36:53 nm 17:39:03 gn all. 17:43:32 --- quit: Zenton (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:43:46 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:03:30 --- join: shenson (~shenson@66.185.71.96) joined #osdev 18:06:18 --- join: file (proxy@mctn1-2389.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 18:07:58 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s178.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 18:15:06 --- part: shenson left #osdev 18:15:10 eks??? 18:17:25 --- quit: Rico (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:17:29 file??? 18:18:26 holy cr@p Windows 2000 is starting 18:18:32 * file is surprised beyond belief 18:18:41 I installed Windows 2000 Professional on my P133 laptop with 40mb of RAM 18:18:46 what? you put a scalpel in its back and its still going? 18:19:00 it actually started... 18:19:03 --- join: DorkPunk (rajiv@cs6625167-251.austin.rr.com) joined #osdev 18:19:04 everybody told me it wouldn't 18:19:11 ehehe 18:19:34 Have you guys read the OS Vade Mecum? 18:20:09 mmm it looks nice... 18:20:15 * file is mesmorized by 2000's blue 18:20:34 eks: this is funny, all my old hardware is supported in 2000 18:20:46 :p 18:21:27 DorkPunk: pretty sure I did, but I read so many things I can't be so sure anymore :p 18:21:44 it hasn't crashed yet - but it's sitting there saying "Please wait..." 18:21:48 eks - It is a nice book, and freely available online. :-) 18:22:00 oh there it goes... doing something now - or did 18:22:29 I'm going to lay down and wait for this to go - bbl 18:24:06 Take care, file. 18:24:21 eks - Are you pretty good with your OS theory? 18:24:47 Installing Devices! 18:24:54 I tend to believe so, why? 18:25:23 eks - I just need a little advice... I'm trying to write a monolithic kernel... 18:25:45 eks - Basically, what is the proper job of the "console," and the "shell?" And how should the kernel, console, and shell properly interact with each other? 18:26:44 well, "properly" is a question of personal taste 18:27:02 but if you take linux for exemple 18:27:15 you have a kernel that can provide various functions, and it offers only 1 console 18:27:19 eks - My problem is that I tend to put too much into the kernel, you know? I just don't know where to draw the line between what should be in the kernel, and what should be executables... 18:27:57 you know, there's nothing preventing you from including all your apps in the kernel, there are ppl that do just that 18:28:07 that is what they use on many PDA 18:28:13 Yes... 18:28:17 But that is not my goal... 18:28:27 your watch is also using a monolithic+app all in one 18:28:35 * DorkPunk nods. 18:28:44 and as far as the "line", again, it's a question of taste 18:29:04 moo 18:29:10 eks - What is your taste? 18:29:12 there is no such thing as a "good" and a "bad" way, there are only "better" and "worse" ways for specific purposes 18:29:20 my taste? 18:29:21 no kernel 18:29:33 draw the line so low that there's 0 bytes left 18:29:41 LoL 18:29:54 that's how Uuu is designed 18:30:00 absolutely no kernel 18:30:10 I see. 18:30:18 there is no distinction between an application and a module or any other part of the system 18:30:49 Giminy Glick! 18:31:02 Win2000 is still installing devices... probably all kinds of weird things 18:31:23 file: win2k installs devices for like 20 minutes :p 18:31:40 scsi controllers for all of them that you don't have, etc.. 18:31:59 * eks always wondered why windows didn't just probe the hardware and install only what is required.. 18:32:36 :| 18:32:50 eks - Because that would be the *efficient* way of doing it. ;-) 18:32:57 oh well - I'm just glad it's slow^C^C^C^Crunning 18:33:28 file: ^H not ^C ;) 18:33:38 * file shrugs 18:33:47 I've never done that, 'bound to be mistakes 18:34:06 mmm brb perhaps 18:39:01 slow^C^C^C^C^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H 18:41:12 I wish I had a Pentium 2 or better... So that I could use the SYSENTER and SYSEXIT instructions. :-\ 18:56:02 --- quit: DorkPunk ("BitchX: the headache medicine") 19:02:10 How do i read a byte from a "blah db '123',0" into al? 19:09:42 mov al, [blah] 19:09:56 * file returns and leaves yet again 19:10:01 and if you meant the decimal value 123, you probably want to use "blah db 123" 19:10:05 it moved on to "Saving settings 19:10:05 " 19:10:43 no i wanna read 1 byte... like blah:4 19:10:58 im rewriting my print function :) 19:11:18 in the prev. version i had: 19:11:24 mov di,blah 19:11:26 lodsb 19:11:38 but it dosen't work now =( 19:14:06 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-202-213.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 19:15:28 --- join: DorkPunk (rajiv@cs6625167-251.austin.rr.com) joined #osdev 19:15:42 Has anybody here used the OSKit for example code? 19:17:12 DorkPunk: i have, sorta 19:17:31 indigo - Is the code easily understandable? 19:17:44 erm...well 19:17:46 it's C... 19:17:52 LoL 19:20:02 http://sempiternity.org/~indigo/c_is_bad_for_you.png 19:21:16 I don't understand... 19:21:17 LOL 19:21:47 DorkPunk: in order to fully understand the ugliness of the screenshot, you must understand what that function is doing 19:22:10 indigo - What is the function doing? 19:22:11 it's a pointer isn't it? 19:22:21 * file shrugs 19:22:24 heh 19:22:34 well, that's some of the ugliness 19:22:34 OH 19:22:41 I have made interrupt handlers in my kernel that are much prettier than this... 19:22:44 it's creating an interrupting and assigning it a handler 19:22:45 that's in a file "interrupt.cpp" 19:22:49 And I use GCC. 19:22:51 it looks... fun 19:23:15 DorkPunk: it's not a handler, it's the code that hooks the handler to the interrupt 19:24:09 indigo - Oh... I have written a set_handler( unsigned long address, int number ) in my kernel. 19:24:28 DorkPunk: ew...must be ugly :P 19:24:35 indigo - It is beautiful... :-) 19:24:36 indigo: Helio? 19:25:20 file: working on it :) 19:25:27 crap.. 19:25:28 indigo: sweet 19:25:31 uh oh - what 19:25:48 * indigo needs a way to find smb servers on the network with samba 19:26:06 indigo - Would you like to see my interrupt code? It is very simple/easy to understand... 19:26:44 DorkPunk: no thanks; i have a nice implementation in asm now :) 19:26:50 indigo - Cool. 19:28:03 I wish Intel would have implemented SYSENTER and SYSEXIT starting with the 386, instead of with the Pentium 2. :-( 19:31:50 --- join: geist (~geist@tkgeisel.com) joined #osdev 19:31:59 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by deer") 19:39:15 --- nick: gpf -> gpf`afk 19:40:46 --- part: nbsp left #osdev 19:40:56 --- join: nbsp (nbsp@65.19.141.250) joined #osdev 19:41:10 eks: Windows 2000 is installed and working 19:41:24 even got my video/sound setup 19:41:39 going for my wireless drivers next 19:41:43 then Service Pack update 19:47:11 --- quit: Chille () 19:47:16 --- quit: DorkPunk ("[BX] Terminated.") 19:47:29 --- nick: gpf`afk -> gpf 20:02:02 --- quit: haveblue (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:34:23 --- nick: gpf -> gpf`afk 20:51:07 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:28:45 the linux from scratch standard bash units are crap 21:30:11 bash = 2min45sec and which means gcc should compile in 26mins but its been going for 48mins 21:43:26 air: why are you compiling all this stuff? 21:49:04 --- join: trans (~trans@fatwire-202-213.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 21:49:14 hi 21:50:07 when i compile something in linux with gcc it works fine but when i compile it under win2k with gcc, i get a size_t already defined error 21:50:13 its the same code 21:51:08 is it possible that size_t isn't declared in linux includes or is there some other possible reason for this? 22:00:39 --- nick: eks -> eks[Zzz] 22:01:44 i feel dirty now after that hack 22:01:52 ]( 22:02:17 you should feel dirty of using windows in the first place 22:02:34 me need cross comp 22:02:43 is point of program 22:02:52 good good ja ja 22:04:39 fuck can't these jackasses cet anything straight!! 22:04:53 --- quit: minddog ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.1") 22:05:26 the "standard" dirent.h (both gcc) has a different name for the FUCKING length of the entry!!! 22:05:42 reclen on one, namlen on the other!! 22:09:50 if you'd read the man pages, you'd see that the size is not a standard portable thing 22:10:00 operating systems such as Irix and Solaris do not have it 22:10:35 fuck the man pages!!!! 22:10:37 =) 22:10:57 * trans is has been a wluser lately 22:11:01 eheh, they help 22:11:14 there's also a huge difference between 'reclen' and 'namelen' 22:11:43 one specifies the size of the name (not including structures or even padding), while the other includes the name length, structure and any padding if some is present 22:12:12 what is the man page? 22:12:50 man readdir 22:13:08 thx 22:13:51 According to POSIX, the dirent structure contains a field char d_name[] of unspecified size, with at most NAME_MAX characters preceding the termi- 22:13:55 nating null character. Use of other fields will harm the portability of your programs. POSIX-2001 also documents the field ino_t d_ino as an XSI 22:13:56 says size of d_name on my slackware box 22:13:58 extension. 22:14:14 man 3 readdir 22:14:17 anyways 22:14:59 the only valid field is d_name 22:15:11 everything else is os specific 22:15:28 s/valid/portable/ 22:16:06 ok replaced it with strlen(dir->d_name 22:16:44 still have the size_t prob 22:17:23 where do you use size_t? what for? 22:18:18 size_t is a standard type used everywhere 22:18:46 its in the parameter struct with is used for drivers 22:19:15 i have a driver which uses stdio.h (which also defines it) 22:19:59 i put a define in to not define it in my include file for just that driver 22:21:47 in an ordinary application, is it possible to load code into an existing program's space and execute it? 22:22:24 yip 22:22:54 hmmm... 22:23:49 it would be complicated though, eh, because it has to be dynamically linked to funcs in the app that is loading it 22:41:45 yawn 22:42:04 * geist just got finished playing the NES legend of zelda for a while 22:42:46 hi 22:43:09 anyone know how to oil a cloak in nethack with a potion of oil? 22:44:39 how can nethack be used as a shell? 23:04:32 --- join: revanthn (~revanthn@202.9.183.236) joined #osdev 23:05:43 hi guys 23:06:45 hello revanthn 23:06:53 ii malenfant 23:07:10 er *hi 23:15:07 --- join: delphinus (~peter@61-221-104-181.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #osdev 23:23:11 --- join: miro (~miro@picknicker.codeon.de) joined #osdev 23:28:06 hi miro 23:28:32 hi 23:28:58 how ya doing 23:29:34 pretty busy latly :D 23:30:55 --- join: minddog (~minddog@ip68-98-85-105.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #osdev 23:34:03 heya minddog 23:35:45 --- nick: geist -> geist-sleep 23:35:51 --- part: geist-sleep left #osdev 23:41:37 guys a friend of mine is running a security site please give a visit to http://www.logcial-security.com 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/02.10.13