00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/03.01.09 00:22:16 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:30:48 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00:34:05 --- join: witten (~witten@adsl-gte-la-216-86-199-140.mminternet.com) joined #osdev 01:02:31 --- quit: sayke (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:07:53 --- nick: minddog -> minddogzz 01:19:39 --- join: sayke (~abuse@sttldslgw29poolF229.sttl.uswest.net) joined #osdev 01:28:34 * spyck is away: at the university 01:35:22 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 01:51:52 --- join: trans (yatdpo@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 02:00:25 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02:04:59 --- quit: malenfant ("Client Exiting") 02:05:24 http://www.osgeeks.net <- vote for AROS in the poll 02:05:28 :S 02:40:40 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:43:24 --- quit: zwane_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:56:18 --- join: kemu2 (~aphexs@253.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be) joined #osdev 03:03:38 --- quit: Boney ("Row, row, row your bits, gently down the stream...") 03:11:52 --- join: lodda (~htjonhigf@p508FFA5C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 03:26:53 hey lodda 03:27:06 hi kemu2 03:30:23 --- quit: kemu2 () 03:36:12 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 03:47:12 --- quit: redblue (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:49:50 --- join: Mathis (~Mathis@manz-d9b94c11.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 03:51:07 hoi 03:51:59 Hoi Mathis 03:52:27 Hoe gaat het mit jou, mijn vriend? :Å 03:52:28 :P 03:53:22 ??? 03:54:12 :Å was just a typo-smiley. 03:54:37 --- join: Ghiottone (~alessandr@213.188.216.21) joined #osdev 03:54:42 I dont speak finnish/swedish/norwegian or whatever that was... 03:55:03 soon go I will... 03:56:34 --- part: Ghiottone left #osdev 03:57:29 bye 03:57:42 --- join: zwane (User-10421@modemcable092.130-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 03:58:03 Mathis: I replied in the language you greeted me :P 03:58:11 did you? 03:58:18 that was not german 03:58:19 TEH DUTCH! 03:58:34 I was greeting in german, not dutch 03:58:39 Liar. 03:58:43 I decide that. Not you. 03:59:03 Unable to comply. Human Mathis decided different 03:59:41 >:) 04:05:30 --- join: DorkPunk (l33t@cs6625167-251.austin.rr.com) joined #osdev 04:05:32 --- join: trans (ydnpem@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 04:05:34 Good morning. 04:06:34 moin 04:06:41 Morning, DorkPunk. 04:06:50 How are you, Mathis, Robert? 04:07:04 Quite OK, 04:08:27 I am ok, but a bit discouraged over a broken floppy driver. :-( 04:08:36 DorkPunk: doesnt interest 04:09:17 --- join: Catacalysmo (Cataclysmo@p46-max3.dun.ihug.co.nz) joined #osdev 04:10:34 --- part: Catacalysmo left #osdev 04:10:52 Windows XP is the best OS for viewing porn. 04:11:54 hey Mathis & Robert & DorkPunk! 04:12:24 Hey there, loddachen. 04:12:39 loddachen?! 04:13:00 Greetings, lodda. 04:13:01 Ja! Mein kleines loddachen! 04:13:25 ho lodda 04:13:49 Robert: aah...i thought it was japanese or something but i didn't know this suffix. 04:14:18 :D 04:17:03 --- join: quantis (quantis@130.88.157.186) joined #osdev 04:17:10 hey quantis 04:17:14 ello 04:17:26 how is everyone this morning ? 04:17:37 me is fine 04:17:54 cool 04:18:01 and how are you 04:18:02 ? 04:18:09 I'm ok. :-) 04:18:11 Hi there, wu 04:18:13 quantis* 04:19:07 --- quit: Mathis ("Shutdown sequence initiated...") 04:19:53 me fine just woke up 04:21:27 Does anybody here know of good resources or docs for writing a floppy driver? 04:22:27 --- join: Boney (9802897fa7@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 04:22:49 Yeah. 04:22:56 Check http://robert.zizi.org/ 04:23:00 I got a few links there. 04:23:05 Ok thank you. 04:23:07 :-) 04:23:10 One of them is quite good. 04:24:33 I think I did something wrong with my DMA code. 04:24:51 But it's weird. Because I can write a block. I can format a track. I simply cannot read a block. 04:25:03 Odd.. 04:29:38 Of everything that I have done so far, I only like the PIC and the PIT. 04:32:38 Heh. 05:00:44 --- join: darkito (darkito@80.25.82.102) joined #osdev 05:00:45 hihi 05:01:00 Hi darkito :) 05:01:09 :) 05:01:25 why aren't you at school? 05:01:31 I am. 05:01:32 :)) 05:01:37 oh 05:01:39 Waiting for an English class. 05:01:44 Which starts in 30 minutes. 05:02:56 :) 05:06:06 I need my glasses 05:08:09 So do I... that's why I always wear the :P 05:08:11 them 05:09:37 heh 05:12:54 --- join: cookin (~jrydberg@d212-151-39-218.swipnet.se) joined #osdev 05:15:25 --- join: hazon (~franky@host172-115.pool80117.interbusiness.it) joined #osdev 05:17:43 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:18:03 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:24:08 --- quit: DorkPunk () 05:28:22 --- quit: cookin ("Client Exiting") 05:32:46 --- quit: dh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:57:04 --- quit: Zenton (Remote closed the connection) 06:23:42 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 06:30:41 --- quit: pengo (""night night"") 06:32:44 --- join: trans (bmhwyy@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 06:48:55 --- quit: Boney ("Row, row, row your bits, gently down the stream...") 06:50:10 --- join: kemu_ (~kemu@181.3-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) joined #osdev 06:50:18 --- quit: kemu_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:03:38 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:12:57 --- part: spyck left #osdev 07:23:05 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:34:05 --- join: Mathis (~Mathis@manz-d9b94c17.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 07:34:30 hoi 07:36:36 hi 07:37:33 --- nick: dax_ -> da 07:37:54 --- nick: da -> dax 07:38:15 bloody french guy never learns 07:39:16 dax: hmm? 07:39:29 he uses my nick 07:39:39 hehe 07:39:50 haven't you registered it? 07:39:57 yes i have 07:40:07 why don't you just ghost him? 07:40:09 gotta kill him each time, he just doesn't learn 07:40:55 maybe he likes to be kicked? 07:41:02 maybe 07:41:16 i got Windows .NET 2003 server & advanced server RC2 07:41:23 isos 07:41:24 legaly 07:41:25 heh 07:41:37 you bought it? 07:42:13 no i downloaded it from microsofts site 07:42:45 hrmm 07:43:22 give me some time and i'll install it on VMWare 07:44:00 hmm the setup program seems the same to me 07:44:59 never used .NET or something..(i am a stupid winbloat XP+linux user) 07:45:34 well i'm quickly going to try it 07:45:42 i don't expect alot of it 07:46:11 but i've never seen a server version of windows yet so... why not? (although they are mostly the same) 07:47:14 oh and i got kicked out of class today :D 07:47:25 out of class?! 07:47:55 hehe 07:47:58 yea cause i pwned the teacher. 07:48:30 and you're glad to tell this us? 07:48:45 yea proud of it :D 07:49:32 stupid... 07:49:50 hmm not really 07:49:57 wtf 07:50:00 stupid... 07:50:25 microshit includes directx with the.NET server thinggy? 07:50:25 that sucks 07:50:51 no mathis, i prefer getting kicked out of class than to sit their and take insults from a crappy teacher 07:51:50 I never heart of any teacher insulting anyone at my school... 07:52:42 oh well, good to know they aren't that wide spread then :D 07:53:19 dax: well, they are.. nearly every teacher at our school likes to insult pupils 07:53:27 oh damn 07:53:44 well insults... hmm kinda depends on which ones and the frequency too 07:54:18 and the context and all 07:54:49 but i don't like a teacher who thinks that she has to constantly insult me, point out negative things, etc etc 07:54:52 she's pathetic 07:55:14 i told her she might as well be a bit more friendly to me and others 07:55:20 so i got /kicked :D 08:04:33 --- join: spaz (~Mental@65.169.21.243) joined #osdev 08:04:41 --- quit: dax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:04:52 howdy 08:13:05 --- quit: quantis () 08:14:27 --- join: dax (dax@u212-239-163-185.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 08:14:47 wb dax, hi spaz 08:16:03 hullo hullo 08:24:28 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 08:51:40 --- join: trans (womtol@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 08:52:08 --- join: jewel (~jleuner@spamisevil.test.ie.vianw.net) joined #osdev 09:08:52 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:15:15 Mathis: how far is elf relocable support? 09:15:55 implemented into my OS? 09:16:36 --- join: Ep (~Ep@211.136.159.235) joined #osdev 09:17:55 Mathis: ? i'm just wondering if it works in your OS 09:18:28 only variable and function relocation (not sure if function relocation works) 09:18:38 external symbol resolving not complete 09:18:52 ok. 09:18:57 also have some smaller problems with string table 09:19:45 brb 09:20:17 --- join: SLACKo_ (sheriff@65.199.130.162) joined #osdev 09:28:39 --- nick: SLACKo_ -> SLACKo 10:05:57 --- quit: SLACKo (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:14:27 --- quit: trans (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:22:44 --- quit: Mathis ("Shutdown sequence initiated...") 10:23:49 --- join: damieng (~damieng@user111.res2-fi2.jtibs.net) joined #osdev 10:25:14 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 10:32:45 --- join: revanthn (revanthn@202.9.183.161) joined #osdev 10:52:18 hi guys 10:52:32 --- quit: jgraham ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 11:00:35 --- quit: witten ("bye") 11:07:03 * hazon is away: I'm busy 11:07:41 --- join: Ghiottone (~alex@62.98.240.146) joined #osdev 11:07:48 --- part: Ghiottone left #osdev 11:09:50 --- join: asc_ (ascent@niak.infoman.com.pl) joined #osdev 11:10:28 --- quit: revanthn () 11:11:02 --- nick: asc_ -> ascent 11:12:16 --- quit: ascent (Client Quit) 11:17:17 --- join: Kitanin (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 11:17:28 --- join: cookin (~jrydberg@d212-151-84-235.swipnet.se) joined #osdev 11:19:05 Kitanin! 11:19:07 cookin! 11:19:15 lodda! 11:19:48 cookin: you know what's up with lynx? 11:21:14 lodda! 11:21:56 not really! 11:22:13 not really means? 11:22:47 well, I have no idea what you're talking about. 11:23:01 *g* you know lynx? 11:23:21 heard the name, yes. 11:23:29 haven't seen him for a while. 11:31:00 --- join: mur (ammu@baana-62-165-187-6.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 11:31:10 murrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:31:32 yes 11:31:36 * mur is here 11:31:53 mur mur mur mur mur!!! 11:32:17 my mur is here! 11:32:41 no my mur! 11:32:49 it's all mine! 11:33:09 i own you *g* 11:33:22 be quiet 11:33:26 --- join: asmodeus_ (~www@h125n2fls33o867.telia.com) joined #osdev 11:33:48 surely not 11:33:58 very good 11:34:03 that's promise then! 11:34:16 mooo? 11:34:36 --- quit: asmodeus_ (Client Quit) 11:34:37 doh, now i HAVE to speak? 11:34:49 yes 11:34:53 you have no alternative 11:35:10 arghs!! 11:35:39 mur 11:35:41 lodda, say you love me! 11:35:46 mur, no! 11:36:07 --- join: trans (rryqtt@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 11:36:11 lodda very good, i feel better now 11:36:21 mur, my heart is at another place! It would break my heart to say i love you! 11:36:37 * mur knows patch 11:36:57 patchwork has been idle 1 hr 36 mins 2 secs 11:37:04 Yes, when i kill you nobody will ever know, muahahahahaha! 11:37:10 *g* 11:37:48 --- quit: kemu () 11:38:01 if i wudl not return there, they woudl give me sanctions 11:38:17 then as they noticed you woudl get more sanctions than what i woudl have 11:38:20 sad but true 11:38:34 besides, you cant come here since you get broken in -30c 11:39:51 lodda. 11:39:56 mur. 11:39:59 lodda. 11:39:59 lodda. 11:40:04 That's not true. 11:40:09 yes it is 11:40:09 --- quit: Kitanin (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:40:11 you are false 11:40:14 and it's doubled 11:40:17 It can't be -30°C. 11:40:17 and that makes it true 11:40:21 becuase 11:40:21 ah 11:40:24 that thing 11:40:26 but it is 11:40:29 not atm 11:40:32 but it was few days ago 11:40:38 -34c some places 11:41:34 It's -6.3°C. I already think it's cold. If it is -30°C, what would i think then? Only something that i think to be exists. That's all. 11:42:40 E.g.: You are existing, because I think you are. 11:43:03 In ten minutes you won't exist anymore. 11:43:19 Because i will have forgotten you then. 11:43:35 * mur clears lodda's RAM 11:43:40 and reboots with ROM 11:43:46 you babble nonsense 11:44:55 13th exception at ammu@baana-62-165-187-6.phnet.fi! He tries to kill his master! 11:46:50 Re-Executing Task mur....Sending message "boot..." 11:47:20 QUIET lodda or talk! 11:48:13 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-196-132.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 11:48:52 gianluca 11:48:56 hi mur 11:49:10 --- join: kemu (~kemu@181.3-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) joined #osdev 11:49:27 everything ok? 11:49:36 1 11:50:20 ? 11:50:23 hi gianluca 11:50:25 . 11:50:26 done 11:50:27 mur boots up 11:50:32 hey lodda 11:50:33 NO! 11:50:42 * mur replied 1 = true = yes 11:50:52 mur: sorry :P 11:50:52 mur i know 11:51:13 true is 1 or nonzero 11:51:41 ? 11:51:48 mur: but still you are not able to answer questions since you are booting.. 11:51:59 --- join: Kitanin (~clark@SCF61185.ab.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 11:52:58 --- quit: cookin ("Client Exiting") 11:53:50 mur: jump and sing loud 11:54:14 lodda you have syntax error :( 11:54:22 and it causes syntax terror 11:54:41 and you are not syntax hero of yourself :( 11:56:08 * hazon is back (gone 00:49:05) 11:56:12 hey guys! 11:56:31 mur:wtf? 11:57:20 hazon tell lodda he needs intelligence. i can sell him internet on cd, where he can download some 11:57:34 lol 11:58:12 mur->jump_and_turn_around_and_sing(high,fast,"i_am_mur_shoot_me.mp3"); 11:58:41 lodda drugs are bad! 11:59:21 I'll do some coding... 11:59:25 see you later 11:59:41 * hazon is away: coding 11:59:45 mur: yes. 12:00:15 mur: So don't take them. 12:01:07 people: but they say caffeine is a drug! 12:02:01 caffeine? 12:02:04 coffee? 12:02:11 yup. 12:02:19 yes, it is. 12:02:25 i don't drink coffee. 12:02:25 so is it bad? 12:02:28 no 12:02:43 there are bad drugs and "ok"-drugs. 12:02:45 the drugs aren't bad 12:02:55 there are no good ones, but ok ones. 12:03:05 lodda: list ok ones 12:03:14 at least in minimum quantities 12:03:40 first of all: is caffeine or coffeine? 12:03:41 :) 12:03:43 coffee, tabac(at least a bit), canabis. 12:03:55 coffeine afaik 12:03:59 gianluca : alcohol, nicotine 12:04:06 ok 12:04:10 alcohol is bad 12:04:23 i don't like alcohol too 12:04:28 if you drink alcohol every day... yes it is 12:04:37 i mean i like to drink some alcoholic things, but not too much 12:04:43 getting drunk is stupid 12:04:50 every day && loads of 12:04:50 well, i don't take any of these drugs since i'm just 14 *g* 12:05:02 :P 12:05:17 bah... getting drunk is funny 12:05:33 well is late 12:05:34 see you! 12:05:39 --- quit: gianluca ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?") 12:05:40 why should you drink alcholics if you don't want to get drunk? 12:05:55 heheh good question 12:06:14 beer is tasty :) 12:06:28 --- quit: mur ("Changing Servers") 12:06:30 --- join: mur (ammu@baana-62-165-187-6.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 12:08:07 wb murrie 12:08:25 coffeine is not drug. it is poison 12:08:25 duh 12:08:48 there are no good materia that makes head turn around 12:08:56 also alcohol and smokes are drugs 12:09:12 Amen, my bear. 12:10:11 in english: praise my lord, mur 12:10:16 thank you Robert 12:11:03 --- join: dh (~dh@80-235-64-173-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) joined #osdev 12:11:14 tere 12:12:36 *g* 12:12:46 mur, you are funny. 12:13:06 thank you 12:13:08 you are not, lodda 12:13:33 mur, i know 12:13:40 * file is happy as Mailboxes Etc accepts UPS International shipments 12:15:29 mur, can you teach me, great master? 12:16:30 lodda what shall i teach you? 12:16:36 * mur greets file! 12:17:24 * file waves to mur 12:17:31 mur, teach me finnish 12:17:36 file: hey 12:17:40 some expensive fashioned files will move to my work computer soon 12:17:47 hi lodda 12:17:59 file files worth 1600 euros 12:19:10 :) 12:20:37 and the files call themselves even "adobe" even they are unknown for the comptuer! 12:20:56 lodda that "tere" was estonian, btw 12:22:09 mur, teach me not to sleep in when you are speaking! 12:22:52 * mur made typo : eleet of crouse = elements of course 12:34:09 lodda that is too difficult for you 12:34:14 you are too primitive :( 12:36:59 mur :((((( 12:37:26 but i have....feelings...too....i am a human... 12:40:18 Nobody's gonna believe that computers are intelligent until they start coming in late and lying about it. 12:40:28 --- join: Ghiottone (~alex@ppp-247-19.27-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 12:41:06 file: moo? 12:41:12 hi Ghiottone 12:41:19 lodda: moo 12:41:21 hello 12:42:01 what's up? 12:43:33 mur doesn't teach me not to fall asleep when he's speaking and because of that i'm sad 12:43:50 lol :) 12:44:26 But, does mur teach you to fall asleep when he's speaking? 12:44:37 you may laugh, but it is very serious. 12:44:47 dunno...ask him 12:45:16 mur, do you teach lodda to fall asleep when you're speaking? 12:46:10 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 12:47:28 no 12:47:35 lodda is learning primitive customs by himself 12:47:39 i'm just supportimg him 12:48:23 * Kitanin saw "primitive customs" and immediately thought "Og come here for business or pleasure? Bring any foreign rocks?" 12:49:11 k 12:49:28 --- nick: mur -> MUR|2001Space 12:49:48 Pity. If you were teaching lodda to fall asleep, I'd just say ``Do the exact opposite of what mur's teaching you!" :-) 12:49:54 away : watching a good movie :) 12:50:11 be quiet, i'm trieing to hvae loddahere when i return ;) 12:50:52 Well, then you don't want lodda to fall asleep then. :-) 12:51:11 * Kitanin gets hauled off by the grammar police for that last sentence. 12:51:37 --- quit: lodda (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:51:54 sup dudez 12:52:01 hi geist 12:52:06 geist: can I have a hiptop? ;)] 12:52:25 --- join: lodda (~htjonhigf@p508FFA5C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 12:52:34 back 12:52:47 mur's problem is that he can't kick/ban me 12:52:48 sure, go to the US 12:52:56 go to a t-mobile store 12:52:57 buy one 12:53:03 or better yet, get one on amazon.com 12:53:05 geist: can I have a hiptop from you? :p 12:53:06 geist: hey 12:53:07 they're $49 now!!! 12:53:26 file: sure, but it wont work in canada 12:53:31 why not? 12:53:45 becuz it needs a special net i guess 12:53:45 well it would but the roaming charges are like $3/min 12:53:51 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@amj71gqy30ya.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 12:53:57 what if I stick a Rogers AT&T SIM in? 12:53:57 lodda: nah, it's GSM/GPRS 12:54:01 --- nick: kemu -> onnozelen 12:54:07 file: then you can use it as a fone, but no data 12:54:15 hey malenfant 12:54:17 why no data? 12:54:24 --- nick: onnozelen -> suckdick 12:54:29 because the rogers AT&T sims dont have a data plan 12:54:33 kemu? 12:54:37 jow 12:54:49 what a sucky nick *g* 12:54:50 --- nick: suckdick -> kemu 12:54:53 sorry 12:54:54 sure they do 12:54:56 it was my stupid friend 12:55:07 thoughed he was "interesting" 12:55:09 file: but they dont let you use the special t-mobile APN 12:55:14 hiptop.t-mobile.com 12:55:19 geist: Gah!!!! 12:55:30 now, they have a few sims that do, but not for the general public 12:55:37 I think we've gotten sims from them for testing purposes 12:56:13 aha! 12:56:16 now, if they have a sim that you can buy that has gprs data and an apn that just gets you an external ip-address, then you can use it 12:56:24 except their rates are probably astronomical 12:56:25 uh huh 12:56:31 like cents per kilobyte 12:56:32 * file grabs a Hiptop and smashes it 12:56:36 I know 12:56:51 a hiptop easily burns through a couple of megabytes a day 12:57:18 I know that we have a handful of test sims from pretty much most of the major carriers in europe and america 12:57:29 so when one of us goes to europe, we borrow one 12:57:53 interesting 12:57:56 one of the perks of working at a wireless company 12:58:06 my sim in my phone is unlimited voice and data 12:58:14 $0 12:58:21 they pay... yeah 12:58:40 though they get pissed if you take it out of the us and into areas they dont have roaming for 12:58:48 or make international calls on it 12:58:53 haha 12:58:56 what do they do? 12:59:06 they send out the ninjas 12:59:11 kill you in your sleep 12:59:23 the t-mobile ninjas are pretty good 12:59:28 haha 12:59:29 they have ties with the yakuza 13:00:13 *g* 13:00:27 * file is on CDMA right now 13:01:04 * sayke is in the US so his options will suck forever 13:01:19 n00bie 101 here, any of you know how to save a transcript in bitchx? 13:02:21 --- nick: minddogzz -> minddog 13:09:06 --- join: Aardappel (wvo96r@p508C66CF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 13:10:46 going to bed in a few minutes, good night.. 13:11:06 espeacially mur|2001Space ;) 13:12:41 good night lodda 13:12:57 --- quit: lodda ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 13:14:00 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s68.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 13:15:43 --- quit: Ghiottone ("Uscita dal client") 13:19:51 --- join: witten (~witten@ip-64-32-131-193.dsl.lax.megapath.net) joined #osdev 13:20:15 --- join: quantis (quantis@130.88.157.186) joined #osdev 13:20:36 lo 13:21:15 --- nick: MUR|2001Space -> MUR|2001SpaceOdy 13:21:22 what ever 13:22:13 --- join: aard|m00vie (wvo96r@p508C6003.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 13:22:23 away again 13:33:28 --- quit: malenfant ("Client Exiting") 13:34:05 --- quit: darkito ("[BX] Did somebody say BitchX?") 13:37:34 geist: "Alex King has set up his TiVo 2 to download its meta information over his 802.11b network, instead of the landline. He's got step-by-step instructions up." I'd probably want to use 802.11g though ... lots of data, this is. 13:37:53 werent you trying to do that at one point 13:40:36 --- quit: Aardappel (Connection timed out) 13:44:57 its on slashdot but guess you probably already seen it 14:04:14 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-95-137.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 14:04:24 hello 14:05:47 --- quit: gianluca (Client Quit) 14:11:01 ah okay, I'll look at it 14:11:19 but I can use an ethernet cable now, since I ran it into the living room to do xbox live anyway 14:11:37 and I know you can use that with a usb ethernet adaptor, one of which I already have 14:17:00 ahh cool 14:20:13 --- join: jsr (www@du-16-177.ppp.telenordia.se) joined #osdev 14:26:48 --- join: suckdick (~kemu@15.124-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) joined #osdev 14:28:03 --- quit: dax (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:28:56 --- quit: kemu (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:31:55 h&K g36 kicks arse.... 14:31:59 me wants one 14:33:35 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-76-135.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 14:33:40 whatever that is 14:34:05 hello 14:34:08 sup 14:34:25 anything 14:35:02 assault rifle 14:35:05 * quantis drools.... 14:36:01 oh 14:36:02 quantis: but its rate of fire is not that fast 14:36:23 so cleaning an sa80 s a bitch 14:36:36 heh 14:36:45 takes more then a bit of water and wet wipe to clean one :( 14:37:05 plus the amount of times ive though i lost the fireing pin.... 14:37:26 bbl people 14:37:27 --- quit: gianluca (Client Quit) 14:37:44 air:how come you know about it ? 14:37:58 i know everything 14:38:04 :) 14:38:27 i begeing to belive that,you and geist seem to be the osdev axis of knowledge.... 14:38:35 its rather annoying :P 14:39:00 and anything i dont know i do a pretty good job at guessing :) 14:39:02 well, I dont know much about assault rifles, despite the fact that I grew up in Texas 14:39:20 where it's perfectly legal to carry unconcealed firearms pretty much anywhere 14:39:46 quantis: and i was in the US army 14:40:05 though your in belgium 14:40:06 --- quit: Kitanin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:40:21 who is in belgium? 14:40:37 you were according to memmory banks.... 14:40:39 hmmm 14:40:51 i guess ive got a fault up there somewhere 14:47:13 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-76-135.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 14:47:21 back 14:47:35 hmm strange... 14:47:49 i moved my computer in the place it was when i was kid 14:47:59 and i feel much more confortable! 14:48:14 maybe i will soon want to do something cool in gwbasic ;))) 14:50:34 noooooo 14:50:35 lol 14:50:40 dont doooooooooooo itttttttttttt 14:50:56 10 print "ciao mamma" 14:51:02 20 rem i am italian! :-) 14:51:04 30 goto 10 14:51:20 i hope to remember basic :p 14:52:15 Only really really old BASIC uses line numbers 14:52:28 yup: gwbasic is not modern 14:52:45 quickbasic didn't anymore, speaking about microsoft basics 14:52:50 gwbasic? 14:52:54 as in, the DOS 3.1 gwbasic? 14:52:58 yup 14:53:15 i started using the dos 3.28 or something like ;) 14:55:08 --- quit: spaz ("Client Exiting") 14:57:31 i rember booting dos 4.1 on pctask on my amiga 14:57:38 now those were the days 15:06:52 --- join: karingo (karingo@97.portland-15-20rs.or.dial-access.att.net) joined #osdev 15:09:41 --- join: Boney (082a1de0d1@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 15:12:44 --- nick: MUR|2001SpaceOdy -> mur 15:15:57 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by rear") 15:20:05 --- quit: Boney (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:24:52 --- join: Boney (082a1de0d1@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 15:26:29 --- quit: jsr ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over IRC.") 15:28:05 --- quit: mur ("MURR!") 15:30:31 --- join: darthspud (quantis@130.88.157.186) joined #osdev 15:31:19 --- quit: karingo (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:31:19 --- quit: suckdick (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:31:19 --- quit: quantis (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:31:19 --- quit: trans (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:31:19 --- quit: damieng (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15:31:23 --- join: mur (jukka@baana-62-165-184-225.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 15:31:29 --- nick: darthspud -> quantis 15:31:35 --- join: karingo (karingo@97.portland-15-20rs.or.dial-access.att.net) joined #osdev 15:31:35 --- join: suckdick (~kemu@15.124-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) joined #osdev 15:31:35 --- join: trans (rryqtt@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 15:31:35 --- join: damieng (~damieng@user111.res2-fi2.jtibs.net) joined #osdev 15:31:45 hm 15:36:39 does anybody want a unsolicited operating system theory, i have a theory that a operating system could consist of just a Interpreter which is capable of loading and running programs written in its Language which are then executed as part of the system 15:37:47 these programs would have access to Primitive operations such as accessing files and controlling processes 15:38:38 * mur just watched 2001: space odysseys. Remember to program there lobotomy function, so you wont have same problems that with HAL 15:39:37 --- quit: damieng (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:39:39 the architecture may be similar to the design of lisp machines 15:39:44 --- quit: rybot ("seeya") 15:39:47 karingo: an interpreter, even if it's capitalized, would be slow 15:42:09 the interpreter could have the choice of dynamically compiling the code in to native code, and it could also use any or all possible optimizations that are available. 15:42:11 --- join: rybot (~rybot@lemon.silveregg.co.jp) joined #osdev 15:42:30 and if you wanted to go far enough you could just implement the interpreter in hardware 15:42:51 BF interpreter even! 15:45:42 the majority of operating systems implemented in forth and lisp and scheme are structured like this 15:46:57 ok 15:48:40 in this architecture there is for the most part no kernel 15:49:03 there is also no difference between the operating system and an arbitrary user program 15:49:47 one of the reasons why its quite popular in certain embeded applications 15:50:20 there is no operating system overhead 15:50:51 how can there be no kernel? 15:50:55 if the interpreted code is compiled to native code 15:51:02 what manages memory, processes? 15:51:11 there all integrated 15:51:19 karingo: why this should be that new? 15:52:10 it isn't, it's just not unix. 15:53:15 youd implment you own thread and process scheduler on a per implmentation basis 15:53:23 many things are not unix 15:53:56 --- join: alphakiller (~1234@200.190.21.222) joined #osdev 15:54:22 quantis: each program would have its own process scheduler? 15:54:26 quantis: and memory manager? 15:54:32 hey guys 15:55:12 what I'm talking about is like a lisp machine 15:55:34 well I've never seen one 15:55:45 BAM! 15:55:47 BAM! 15:55:47 BAM! 15:55:51 explositions 15:55:52 BAM! 15:55:52 BAM! 15:55:53 BAM! 15:56:31 no system today in current production has their design 15:56:37 darn it 15:56:46 that I know of 15:56:48 I can't find Bach's Brandenburg Concerto #3 for flute 15:57:07 witten: its an embedded system so there is onlygoing to be one program per system any ways 15:57:25 quantis: oh 15:57:47 dunno about lisp but its very hard to make a general purpose os out of forth 15:59:02 file, listen to me 15:59:16 fluitfluufliifluufluitfluuuiiiitfit fluit. 15:59:21 there it goes 15:59:34 :) 15:59:47 i made it a bit shorter so it woudl better fit on #osdev rich chat 15:59:54 hope that doenst matter ;) 16:08:42 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@amj71gqy30ya.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 16:17:19 --- quit: aard|m00vie ("http://wouter.fov120.com/") 16:20:05 --- quit: zhware ("leaving") 16:20:29 --- join: zhware (~zhware@external.silveregg.co.jp) joined #osdev 16:29:17 --- quit: hazon ("bye bye") 16:40:44 --- quit: quantis () 16:46:55 --- join: mur` (jukka@baana-62-165-189-14.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 16:48:17 --- quit: mur` (Client Quit) 16:48:32 --- quit: mur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:56:15 --- quit: Boney (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16:57:17 --- join: DRF (~daniel@host213-121-67-13.surfport24.v21.co.uk) joined #osdev 16:58:12 --- join: Boney (082a1de0d1@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 17:07:48 what´s faster: an interruption or a far call ? I have this doubt .. I wanna know, because all choose one of these ways to implement my API 17:09:27 what do you recommend ? 17:11:37 a far call is faster than an interruption but I'm not recommending one over the other 17:12:26 hmm 17:12:33 anyone know how to use css files? 17:13:01 I do. 17:13:43 17:13:51 like that 17:13:54 qzx.com/qzx-default.css <-- how come the first line after each comment does not work? 17:14:19 what type of comment are you using 17:14:26 // 17:15:22 hmm 17:15:32 guess it dont like those 17:16:48 --- quit: malenfant ("brb") 17:19:12 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@bmjc1gvy308a.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 17:20:16 air: use /* */ for comments - it's safe 17:20:40 ya 17:20:44 --- join: zwane_ (User-10421@modemcable092.130-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 17:21:35 --- quit: Ep ("Client exiting") 17:22:43 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s166.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 17:23:02 --- join: Ubel (~newbie@arnarson.is) joined #osdev 17:29:00 --- quit: Boney (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17:29:12 --- quit: zwane (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:31:58 bz. too late now 17:32:00 good night 17:32:11 Nite gianluca 17:32:39 buonanotte drf! :-) 17:32:41 --- quit: gianluca ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?") 17:32:41 O soz, bz stand for Boney, zwane_ (slow me) 17:33:07 --- join: Boney (082a1de0d1@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 17:33:28 hi DRF 17:33:34 --- quit: Boney (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17:33:49 Hi zwane_ 17:33:52 How are you? 17:35:47 cool, yourself? 17:40:52 --- join: xeon (~root@cs666823-113.austin.rr.com) joined #osdev 17:40:57 yay! 17:41:08 im using debian >>>SiD<<< 17:41:48 zwane_: Not to bad thanks, not had much time for osdev though :( 17:42:03 xeon: SID! Thats going back a bit 17:42:24 DRF: Sid? hahaha sid is unstable dude 17:42:46 DRF: Sid is always the name of unstable releases 17:42:53 O, doh 17:43:01 I can't remember names 17:43:23 DRF: i rarely chat in here anyway ;) 17:43:24 I only remember names of versions I've used at one point. (Ham,Potatoe,Woody) 17:44:15 zwane_: Fair enough, I really should talk less (spend too much time here and not working) 17:44:27 hehe 17:46:35 zwane_: Been chatting here long? 17:48:26 nah not really, kind of followed someone here 17:48:36 i only know 1 or 2 people 17:49:14 Ah, well I'm Daniel. Now you know 2 or 3 ppl ;) 17:53:31 =) 17:53:44 hello, im a future visionary. you take the past it is the future change a little here and there 17:58:04 Is that like a fortune teller? 17:58:12 ;) 18:04:26 --- part: malenfant left #osdev 18:05:55 --- quit: xeon (Remote closed the connection) 18:12:48 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@bmjc1gvy308a.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 18:19:05 --- join: n0vice (~n0vice@pcp02102499pcs.towson01.md.comcast.net) joined #osdev 18:20:25 Hi n0vice 18:21:12 hey whats up 18:25:00 Not, much really need to sleep but got distracted lol. U? 18:32:31 no, im going to be a visionary in the future. 18:35:10 I see 18:36:55 the past has designs algorithms technologies which powers have not been fully understood or even taked advantage of 18:38:28 if we were to look at these use today's technology and those that have came before and look at these things what they mean now are they even meaningful if they do have meaning what applications would they have 18:39:39 I see 18:42:44 --- quit: trans ("Disconnecting") 18:43:16 --- join: trans (hwtyol@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 18:49:34 --- quit: n0vice ("I like core dumps") 19:05:21 --- quit: Ubel ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 19:06:03 --- quit: wli ("changing servers") 19:06:04 --- join: wli (wli@holomorphy.com) joined #osdev 19:13:06 --- join: xeon (~xeon@cs666823-113.austin.rr.com) joined #osdev 19:13:08 air? 19:13:41 --- quit: zwane_ (Remote closed the connection) 19:18:14 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by beer") 19:18:15 xeon? 19:20:35 --- join: zwane (User-10421@modemcable092.130-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 19:22:42 air? 19:22:46 xeon? 19:22:49 im updating my site 19:22:56 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:23:00 got a neato logo too 19:23:11 not uploaded yet though 19:23:39 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:23:59 // FIXME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEFORE disk.init(), 19:23:59 // virtual_mem.virtual_pages.free_lists[0] is empty and valid. AFTER it is 19:23:59 // all fucked up! 19:24:00 ok 19:24:06 remind me not to write comments right before going to bed 19:24:34 hehe 19:25:41 is there way to break on a certain variable getting a certain value in gdb? 19:25:57 or even just a certain variable changing its value? 19:26:42 dunno about a variable but u can watch a memory address 19:26:51 hmm ok 19:27:06 and break on it changing? 19:30:11 u can break on read or write access 19:31:11 ah nice 19:31:11 atleast the bochs debugger can, dunno about gdb :) 19:31:18 heh ok 19:32:52 --- quit: alphakiller () 19:36:35 --- join: The_Zero (~the@66-214-121-35.hes-cres.charterpipeline.net) joined #osdev 19:41:16 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 19:43:49 --- quit: witten ("bye") 19:46:44 hello 19:50:04 do any of you think you could help me out, im currently working on a function to handle the keyboard, but when you hit enter it does not seem to do as i wish, such as adding to di the correct value so it goes to the next line in the video memory buffer 19:50:56 --- quit: malenfant ("reboot...") 19:51:32 im using a varible(assembly) called strl as such: inc BYTE [strl] everytime a character is placed into video memory buffer,(done again for the attribute byte) and i do this everytime a key is pressed, for some reason it does not seem to be working correctly, any suggestions? 19:55:08 check it out: http://www.geocities.com/insomniatic_coder/ 19:55:26 check what? 19:59:28 * DRF ask for someone to wake up and help The_Zero 20:07:56 mwhaha 20:07:59 --- quit: karingo (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:08:05 The_Zero: my logo 20:08:14 uh huh 20:08:30 like? 20:08:55 i guess 20:09:07 "i guess"!?!?! 20:09:17 im trying to get my code working, so i dont place much interesting in art 20:09:28 that is the greatest graphic ive ever made! 20:09:45 ok 20:10:00 chill ppl 20:10:22 98% of the room is chillin 20:11:21 True, lets make stuf interesting: steam and boil ppl 20:17:09 --- quit: suckdick (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:25:57 can anyone go to my site and try to compile and run my code? 20:29:00 --- join: Boney (082a1de0d1@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 20:30:57 xeon: Sorry, don't have time tonite, maybe 2moro though 20:40:59 --- quit: Boney (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:47:52 --- join: Boney (082a1de0d1@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 20:49:08 --- quit: The_Zero () 20:49:39 --- join: trans (zdubrs@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 21:03:27 --- quit: xeon ("Client Exiting") 21:21:43 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:31:12 --- quit: Boney ("Row, row, row your bits, gently down the stream...") 21:31:32 yawn 21:36:11 Well I thnk I'm off to bed now 21:36:15 Nite 21:37:03 --- quit: DRF ("God nite everyone") 21:39:28 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:49:26 anyone know how to make a page support more than one css file? 21:52:40 air: 21:53:13 in you .html file 21:53:17 --- join: redblue (star@ppp109.216-96-207.sherb.mt.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 21:53:37 --- join: eldn (eldn@AC92869B.ipt.aol.com) joined #osdev 21:53:38 --- mode: ChanServ set +b *!*@AC9*.ipt.aol.com 21:53:38 --- kick: eldn was kicked by ChanServ (llama?) 21:53:39 ChanServ: :( 21:56:08 zhware: does that load both? 21:56:41 --- join: Mathis (~Mathis@manz-d9b94c11.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 21:57:19 hiyall 21:58:08 air: yep 21:58:21 zhware: i dont want it to load both 21:58:51 i just want to make more than one css file available so users can switch 22:00:03 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 22:00:53 you cannot change static pages. how they can switch (change the html source)? 22:01:21 the browser has a menu to change to different css file 22:01:21 s 22:13:10 --- join: suckdick (~kemu@15.124-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) joined #osdev 22:19:55 --- join: Boney (b5da48c3d3@dsl-203-113-235-181.VIC.netspace.net.au) joined #osdev 22:28:03 --- quit: Mathis ("Shutdown sequence initiated...") 22:29:28 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@216.232.182.244) joined #osdev 22:49:49 --- join: trans (bspezm@fatwire-201-98.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 23:07:24 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:26:07 --- join: spaz (~kreep@mkc-24-31-244-177.kc.rr.com) joined #osdev 23:26:11 --- join: witten (~witten@adsl-gte-la-216-86-199-140.mminternet.com) joined #osdev 23:26:17 howdy 23:27:11 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:29:43 --- quit: malenfant ("Client Exiting") 23:31:00 --- join: kemu2 (~superprut@116.27-238-195.dialup.skynet.be) joined #osdev 23:37:55 --- quit: sayke (No route to host) 23:46:45 --- quit: redblue (Connection timed out) 23:53:07 --- join: sayke (~abuse@sttldslgw29poolA6.sttl.uswest.net) joined #osdev 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/03.01.09