00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/03.01.18 00:00:54 --- nick: geist-out -> geist 00:08:05 wow, air and mathis got into it a while back 00:08:18 well, we all have to get into it with air at least once, and come to some sort of truce 00:08:28 it's part of being a regular in #osdev 00:10:19 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:17:06 get into what? 00:33:35 anyone know the htaccess stuff to ban all but a single ip? 00:48:12 anyone know what license bfe uses? 01:03:19 --- join: lodda (~htjonhigf@p508FCC06.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 01:03:31 hey 01:03:35 hey 01:03:42 do u know what license bfe uses? 01:04:13 nope 01:04:14 qzx.com/bfe/COPYRIGHT 01:04:20 what license is that? 01:05:16 minimal 01:05:37 basically a 'dont sue us if it kills someone' 01:05:45 and 'we retain owenership' 01:06:05 i need a license to register a sourceforge project 01:06:30 that's a BSD/MIT/X/free style license 01:08:30 why do you need a license for sf? 01:08:50 they require the project to have a 'free' license 01:09:15 heh, funny 01:09:22 the software that runs the damn site is non-free 01:09:37 well 01:10:33 the old software is gpl'd 01:10:55 yeah, but that doesn't make VA any less hypocritical 01:11:10 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 01:17:24 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s104.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 01:22:28 --- join: trans (zcyjzo@fatwire-201-223.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 01:23:00 http://bespin.org/~eihrul/worse.jpg 01:26:54 --- join: wl (philipp@pD9E2D67C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 01:31:45 hehe 01:39:12 hmm 01:39:34 i wonder if the guy that maintains the bfe port has ever used it 01:40:20 cuz he has bochs 1.4.1 as a dependancy for the 2mar2001 version of bfe and bfe didnt support 1.4 until version 15nov2002 01:50:15 yes, how can it be! 01:50:27 it's a shame that pieces of crap like that can walk the earth 01:57:18 hmm... eek VC is giving me huge dlls... wonder why 01:57:40 m$ code bloat 01:57:45 is it possible to get the addresses of the different sections of main memory? the address of the stack is no problem but what about the others? (linux) 02:03:40 air: VC automatically adds bloat to your dlls? sure 02:06:07 hmm guess i underestimated the size of stlport 02:06:18 and they aren't that huge i suppose... 02:06:21 (around 400kb) 02:06:40 well that IS huge... ugh :( 02:07:13 * air hopes he gets accepted by sourceforge with his "other" license 02:07:45 air: artistic? 02:08:07 dax: qzx.com/bfe/COPYRIGHT 02:09:13 looks opensource to me 02:38:27 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:46:16 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:00:24 --- quit: Kurt ("Connection reset by ear") 03:07:51 --- quit: dh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:09:48 * geist goes home finally (3am) 03:09:52 --- nick: geist -> geist-sleep 03:23:29 --- join: redblue (star@ppp024.216-96-207.sherb.mt.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 03:31:25 night geist. 03:40:07 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 03:40:50 --- join: kemu (~kemu@144.7-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) joined #osdev 03:43:03 --- join: lodsb_ (~lodsb@p508091E1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 03:43:13 --- nick: lodsb_ -> lynx 03:47:58 --- join: dh (~dh@80-235-54-178-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) joined #osdev 03:48:40 --- quit: lodsb (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:51:16 --- join: falemagn (~Fabio@ppp-141-81.26-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 04:09:19 --- join: trans (qjvjii@fatwire-201-223.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 04:20:32 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:21:43 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-251-133.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 04:21:47 hello 04:27:46 --- quit: gianluca ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?") 05:00:14 --- quit: falemagn ("[x]chat") 05:08:46 --- quit: trans (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:32:53 --- join: Phactorial (~Phactoria@212.46.36.68) joined #osdev 05:36:30 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-111-136.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 05:36:47 hello 05:37:07 Hey gianluca 05:37:40 (hey)! <-- hey factorial? :) 05:38:27 --- join: Robert (~snofs@h21n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #osdev 05:39:28 ;) gianluca 05:40:33 gotta go 05:40:34 bye! 05:40:38 --- quit: gianluca (Client Quit) 05:40:48 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 05:50:00 --- quit: Phactorial ("Client Exiting") 05:55:01 --- join: mur (jukka@baana-62-165-186-42.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 06:22:34 --- part: asm_ left #osdev 06:35:51 --- join: trans (qxjjez@fatwire-201-223.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 06:37:51 heya 06:39:49 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:40:42 odda 06:40:45 loo 06:40:47 hoello 06:40:52 * mur fionsd typing hard 06:46:58 hi mur 06:47:06 * lodda reads old #osdev-logs 06:47:20 oh no 06:47:33 * lodda is reading the log from the very first day i was in #osdev 06:47:35 hi file 06:47:42 this is funny 06:47:47 ? 06:47:50 paste 06:49:29 why? 06:50:04 to proove it's funny 06:50:05 * file yawns 06:50:22 somebody called earlier - and let it ring, and ring, and ring some more 06:50:31 I was almost unconcious! 06:50:41 a girl? 06:50:42 mur: no, it makes me ashame =] 06:50:47 --- join: falemagn (~Fabio@ppp-87-82.26-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 06:51:00 lodda, paste, we are hungry 06:51:06 mur: didn't answer 06:51:13 file ah 06:51:18 lodda, dcc me 06:51:21 I think it was a wrong number... I did a *69 and it said then umber... 06:51:26 er the number 06:51:48 *69 sounds nasty 06:51:49 :) 06:52:20 mur: they are on bespin.org/~qz .... 06:52:29 it returns the phone number of the person who last called you 06:58:36 they called again 06:58:42 it was my step-dad on his cellphone :) 06:58:56 they forgot to blow out a candle in the kitchen 06:59:38 the whole room was in flames? 06:59:44 haha no 06:59:53 only the computer? 07:04:55 nope 07:05:01 only the wick 07:05:16 too bad you missed new computer ,) 07:08:08 I'm getting one :) 07:09:49 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 07:09:51 --- join: pengo (~xtofu@CPE-144-132-240-211.nsw.bigpond.net.au) joined #osdev 07:10:01 pengo has lost pencil again 07:10:13 * mur was seaching pencil under table but found mouse instead 07:10:45 --- nick: pengo -> pencilgo 07:10:52 where did my pencil go? 07:11:01 Away! 07:14:47 so.. stuff 07:15:00 you guys into stuff? 07:16:19 Erm. Sure. 07:16:26 cool. me too 07:17:04 i like heaps of stuff 07:17:14 * mur eats dry bread (or something) 07:17:45 i made hommus 07:17:54 it's good with stuff like that 07:18:28 * mur checks dcit 07:18:30 dictionary 07:19:47 sometimes spelt hummus or homus 07:19:58 chickpea dip 07:20:40 it is sour bread 07:21:14 oh.. it's not meant to be dry then? 07:21:15 it had a bit flavour like beer, so it is probably not in very good condition anymore... 07:21:32 * mur checks the package for english word 07:21:39 stale? 07:21:45 fermenting? 07:21:49 moldy? 07:22:31 it's 1 mm thin plates 07:22:40 stale 07:22:45 dark brown 07:22:59 umm.. pumpernickel? 07:23:54 near but no 07:24:05 limppu is not dry 07:24:12 pumpernickel = hapanlimppu 07:24:21 this one = hapankorppu 07:24:28 limppu is dark bread 07:24:32 real bread 07:24:35 you have a scanner? 07:24:35 this is like chips 07:24:37 yes 07:24:57 it is no point scanning grey rectangle :) 07:25:08 heh :) 07:25:32 it's like credit card that you can eat 07:25:39 and which is not tasty at all 07:25:47 brb 07:25:53 --- quit: lodda ("reboot") 07:26:37 i wish i could eat my credit card 07:26:40 :) 07:26:43 Robert, vet du vad surskorppor är på engelska? 07:26:45 ah well 07:26:45 --- quit: file (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: file[bedr!jwired@mctn1-1883.nb.aliant.net))) 07:26:54 --- join: file (jwired@mctn1-1883.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 07:26:58 cracker? wafer? 07:27:02 mur: ? 07:27:12 Surskorpor? 07:27:20 yes 07:27:24 No idea what that is. 07:27:32 fancy 07:27:52 a bit like cracker 07:27:56 ahhhhhh there 07:28:23 cept it's 1 mm think and sour bread and dried 07:28:34 hmmm 07:28:39 perhaps it's time to make dinner... yeah 07:28:39 think = thick 07:29:56 --- quit: dh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:31:17 maybe someone should make a bread and crackers picture page 07:31:46 --- join: pavlovski (~Tim@host217-43-101-150.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) joined #osdev 07:31:49 http://www2.s-kanava.net/ruokamaailma/uutuudet/kuvat2002/rapeat_vaasan.jpg 07:32:08 blah? 07:32:19 --- join: lodda (~htjonhigf@p508FE88D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 07:32:22 it looks thicker than 1mm tho 07:32:24 hi lodda 07:32:35 replace hi by wb 07:32:37 uhmm 07:32:40 so 07:32:41 i'm back 07:32:48 sour rusks 07:33:25 does that say anything? 07:33:25 lodda: for $5 I will! 07:34:02 * mur will for 4,5 e ! 07:34:22 mur, file: you get one cent if you do 07:34:29 --- quit: file[cold] (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:34:43 lodda, can i replace it 1000 times? :) 07:34:57 no, works only one time 07:34:58 no! 07:35:03 I refuse that agreement :p 07:35:28 file: you replace it back to hi and i replace it to wb and then lets do that 2000 times and share the money 07:35:29 file: ok. see you then. ;) 07:35:50 mur: don't you get money? 07:39:51 --- join: kondor (~kondor@ip68-2-195-186.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #osdev 07:40:07 lodda, can you give me 1000 e? 07:40:35 * file needs the money 07:40:40 so I can buy my new mobo+CPU+RAM combo 07:41:08 i need money, too 07:41:39 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 07:41:40 i need the money also 07:41:51 so i can guy a car to impress girls 07:41:57 nah, you are allowed to work 07:42:09 work hard, get a bitch! 07:42:19 you can guy a car? 07:42:31 girls i like dont go for guys with jobs 07:42:57 pencilgo: huh? 07:43:25 english speeking socieities are stupid 07:43:25 i dunno it sounds weird but it's true 07:43:37 * mur does not understand why one shoudl have money to impress girls 07:43:47 no no no.. not money.. just a car 07:44:18 it's not so much to impress as to give the freedom to do stuff 07:44:24 cars are evil 07:44:28 yes 07:44:31 mur: huh? 07:44:33 i've never owned a car 07:44:38 public transportation is much nicer 07:44:42 you meet girls there 07:44:43 :) 07:44:45 ;) 07:44:49 but bicycles built for two don't work so well 07:44:51 nah 07:44:52 mur :D 07:45:37 i've caught buses, trains, trams or ferries every other day of my life and i've met about 0 people. 07:45:58 Heh. 07:46:17 * file frowns 07:46:29 my microwave pizza is supposed to be pepperoni, not supreme 07:46:29 anyway i dont need to meet girls.. i just want to do stuff with one girl. 07:46:46 i dont understand microwave pizza 07:47:07 pencilgo: clarify 07:47:17 the only good frozen pizza i've had cost more than getting one delivered 07:47:37 and the rest made me ill 07:47:41 oh ic 07:47:44 and i grew up on frozen food 07:47:47 --- nick: pencilgo -> pengo 07:49:16 --- quit: kemu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:49:36 --- quit: pengo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:50:32 --- join: pengo (~xtofu@CPE-144-132-240-211.nsw.bigpond.net.au) joined #osdev 07:51:00 wb pengo 07:51:00 xchat crashed :/ 07:51:03 re 07:51:11 pengo: muahaha ;) 07:53:22 guess i should go bed 07:54:20 good night 07:54:35 --- quit: pengo (Client Quit) 07:59:00 --- join: rakbladet (johan@h135n5c1o254.bredband.skanova.com) joined #osdev 08:01:26 * mur woudl like to be good chef 08:01:32 i cuodl be, never really tried 08:01:43 i do have cooked meals 08:06:12 hmm? 08:07:19 i have thought becoming vegan 08:12:20 * pavlovski just found out he'd been paid 08:12:24 £876! 08:12:42 hi pavlovski 08:12:49 paid for what? 08:12:55 the army 08:13:07 woudl you care giving me £500? >:) 08:13:35 erm, no 08:13:49 nah, he gives me 876 =] 08:14:06 I'm going to spend it now 08:14:08 bye! 08:14:10 --- quit: pavlovski ("Client Exiting") 08:15:31 * lodda is wondering what he'll buy 08:15:35 * mur wonders what 08:15:42 you stole my words, lodda! 08:15:49 :) 08:17:55 [Mur][mur][mur] 08:17:58 no 08:17:59 --- quit: redblue (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:18:04 it supposed to be nick 08:18:04 * lodda hopes he buys a puter for me 08:18:13 --- nick: mur -> [mur][mur][mur] 08:18:24 <[mur][mur][mur]> no he'll buy me powerbook with partial payment 08:18:52 bah, buy an useful puter 08:19:36 --- nick: [mur][mur][mur] -> [mur] 08:19:45 --- nick: [mur] -> MUR|but_away 08:20:10 evil 08:20:20 nick changes are evil 08:22:28 --- quit: falemagn ("[x]chat") 08:28:11 --- join: zwanem (User-10429@modemcable092.130-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) joined #osdev 08:34:28 --- quit: file (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:34:44 --- join: file (jwired@mctn1-0181.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 08:36:42 --- quit: zwane_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08:47:40 --- quit: marcus_o () 08:47:58 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:06:59 --- quit: kondor ("Client Exiting") 09:07:38 --- nick: MUR|but_away -> ur 09:07:42 i'm back 09:07:46 i forgot m 09:07:48 :) 09:09:28 --- quit: marcus_o (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: marcus_0!DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net))) 09:09:42 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:10:50 --- nick: ur -> Mur 09:12:58 HELLO! i said 09:13:00 anyone here? 09:20:14 --- join: Zenton (~vicente@8.Red-80-34-35.pooles.rima-tde.net) joined #osdev 09:29:44 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-93-134.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 09:29:49 gianluca, 09:29:51 Zenton, 09:29:55 marcus_o 09:30:04 hey mur 09:30:16 mur: did you do that graphic work? :) 09:30:37 --- join: revanthn (~revanthn@203.129.127.70) joined #osdev 09:31:19 what graphic work? :/ 09:31:25 terve revanthn 09:32:30 hi mur 09:32:47 mur: hmm you weren't doing sort of hmm what's the name hmmm collages or something like? it's quite possible that i've wrong person :) 09:35:23 what's to do to use the FPU? just run finit? or reset it? 09:36:18 * Mur did some, gianluca 09:36:30 only one survived from gimp crash :) 09:36:56 ops 09:37:26 mur :( 09:37:27 :) 09:37:36 why happy? 09:37:50 funny it crashed the first time when i had unsaved work :) 09:38:36 --- join: Phactorial (~Phactoria@212.46.36.178) joined #osdev 09:38:42 Anyone here use 'Z80-asm' before? 09:38:46 --- quit: gab (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:38:55 (hey)! 09:38:57 It is a Z80 assembler 09:39:03 Z80-asm?! isn't that a bit old? 09:39:08 hehe 09:39:15 lodda: 1999-200 09:39:29 'Brainstorm' or whatever 09:39:41 i mean the Z80 09:39:49 Pahctorial,you work with microcontrollers 09:39:51 Yes, the Z80 is old 09:39:51 lodda: AoA helped 09:39:59 revanthn: No 09:40:02 Hirogen2: fine 09:40:05 morning 09:40:12 hi trans 09:40:41 good evening, mr. trans 09:40:46 hi lodda 09:40:47 how are you ? 09:40:51 hello mur 09:40:53 revanthn: Why the question? 09:40:54 i am good 09:40:55 you? 09:41:14 Phactorial,cuz not many talk about z80 09:41:19 woudl be fancy to reply always 'we' when other uses 'you' 09:41:19 :) 09:41:30 revanthn: You would be suprised ;) 09:41:32 Z80 is still available at many electronic stores 09:41:39 revanthn: http://www.opencores.org, I was looking at one of their cores 09:42:01 revanthn: picked up a very crappy-looking assembler, I will learn Z80 assembly 09:42:12 revanthn: I would rather like to hear from a person who has used it 09:42:14 Z80s ARE COOOL!! 09:42:26 C/PM can be used on a z80 09:42:40 there's a verion of C/PM that runs on z80 09:42:50 it's written in PL/1 I suppose 09:42:58 revanthn: so even in msx? 09:43:20 C/PM 1 is written in PLM 09:43:38 gianiuca,not sure 09:43:50 latter versions have more asm and even latter versions have C 09:43:59 i have borrowed BSD 4.3 System Internals in german today 09:44:08 I have archives of C/PM for various arch's 09:45:06 revanthn: Don't all of Nintendo's handheld line of game consoles (GameBoy) use the Z80 instruction set? (or atleast have it in compatibility mode, I think GBC has this) 09:45:37 TI's 8x calculator line also uses it (save the 89) 09:45:43 :) 09:45:45 hey I have a ti83 09:46:02 i have 09:46:12 86 09:46:21 There are TI Emulators availabe if you want to try some TI ASM 09:46:26 83 has about ~ 2MHz :) that is 4 MIPS 09:46:46 i fonud Z80s in *fuxxxing* old external modems 09:46:56 Although I cannot believe a standard PC (like mine) with 400MHz only can do 800 MIPS. Sounds pretty weak., 09:47:17 2 MIPS per Mhz 09:47:21 oh well 09:47:40 an empty for loop iterating for 1 million times takes somewhat shorter than seconds 09:47:47 Mur: ugh 09:47:53 Mur: MIPS == machine instructions per seconds 09:47:54 not mhz 09:47:55 or? 09:47:56 actually all microcontroller's clock speed can be varied by using an external clock 09:48:00 * Mur knows 09:48:13 well how is MIPS defiend then? 09:48:25 Million Instructions per second 09:48:28 all i need is an EPROM reader/burner and i could hack those modems 09:48:28 doesn't linux count when booting MIPS? 09:48:28 multiple interlocking pipelines? =) 09:48:30 sigh 09:48:40 they have everything i'd need!!! 09:48:40 revanthn: million or machine? 09:48:47 Million 09:48:55 strtok: Yes, that too 09:49:02 cuz each machine instruction has a different requirement for clock cycles 09:49:06 so they can't all be the same 09:49:06 Mur: yeah, and I have 799 MIPS (and the clock is 400 MHz) 09:49:07 strtok: Actually, that is the reason I will be picking up Z80 assembly ;) 09:49:18 * gianluca goes 09:49:20 --- join: kemu (~kemu@224.47-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) joined #osdev 09:49:20 bye poeple 09:49:27 --- quit: gianluca ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?") 09:49:28 why, don't like mips asm? 09:50:01 strok,all micro controllers/processers have an external clock or atleast soemthing embedded into so that the clock speed can be varied according to our power requirements 09:50:09 strtok: Actually, that is the reason I will be picking up Z80 assembly ;) <- the fact that the Ti8? line of TI calculators use Z80 09:50:19 Let me complete: One million (ASM) instructions run in max 1 second, while Linux says I have 800 MIPS. 09:50:19 what was the log rotate command in linux? 09:50:24 for boot time messages? 09:50:25 Mur: logrotate 09:50:28 revanthn: yes...why are you aiming that at me? 09:50:28 so if the device is a power constrained device and you need that functionality you are going to use less clock cycles 09:50:37 or SuSEconfig 09:50:53 z80 are very good with math 09:50:55 Hirogen2, no 09:51:09 oh yes 09:51:10 :P 09:51:11 strok,typo ;) 09:51:13 not really, they can't even multiply in hardware 09:51:30 strrtok,what do you mean 09:51:31 revanthn: This assembler is the only one I found, I will be submitting to the FreeBSD ports collection after done testing it (I had to fix the compilation process as well, ugly as crap) 09:51:36 but i mean that command which shows boot messages 09:51:50 at least the basic zilog z80...the version nintendo uses for the gameboy has some extensions 09:52:00 ...the z80 doesn't haev a multiply instruction is what I mean 09:52:25 z80 has microcode instructions that does that the math in single instrutions eliminating the need to code it 09:52:40 Mur: dmesg 09:52:52 strtok,there are many version of z80 09:52:55 I suppose 09:53:12 the zilog version..the "true" z80, doesn't have mul or div 09:53:14 Phactorial, yes 09:53:26 Z80 asm is 8080 asm with extensions 09:53:31 strtok,you can do that by repitative addition or subtraction 09:53:38 revanthn: Know of any good assemblers/emulators off the top of your head? 09:53:38 of course 09:53:50 but that definitely makes the z80 less good at math than you asserted 09:53:52 Gas 09:54:14 Gas, [NMT]ASM 09:54:14 strtok,it does logarthimic functions very well 09:54:15 www.ticalc.org for emulators/assemblers for z80 stuff 09:54:33 Thanks strtok.... 09:54:37 you'd also have to implement those...z80 doesn't have an fp unit built in 09:54:54 take the mathlib.lib from TCPP 09:58:50 The only *nix emulators are for TI92 09:58:58 http://www.ticalc.org/programming/emulators/software.html 09:59:21 and the only one that isn't a dead link uses SVGALib 10:02:38 http://sourceforge.net/projects/xtiger/ 10:02:46 Phactorial,looks like FreeBSD is your favourite OS 10:03:11 revanthn: I don't really know 10:03:19 I like both Linux and FreeBSD 10:03:24 I 'prefer' FreeBSD though ;) 10:03:34 Once it outperforms Linux maybe it will be my favorite OS ;) 10:03:34 --- quit: marcus_o (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: marcus_0!DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net))) 10:03:48 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 10:03:57 revanthn: Really waiting for the 5.0 release, high hopes 10:04:12 what are you expecting in it 10:04:30 revanthn: Mainly, better VM (scheduler, proper threads) 10:04:42 Proper threads implementation that is 10:04:46 Phactorial,not intrested in SMP support 10:05:31 revanthn: SMP'ng' does sound real cool, but I don't use any SMP systems to date 10:05:50 revanthn: Nevertheless, scheduler/threads are more important (threads implementation being the most important) 10:06:11 * more important as in it is more oriented towards the base of the operating system 10:06:24 --- quit: Zenton ("Client Exiting") 10:06:28 If they don't have a proper threads implementation, then why a new SMP implementation at all? ;) 10:07:18 revanthn: Have you used any of the release candidates? 10:07:24 Phactorial,ar you a FreeBSD developer 10:07:33 Phactorial,nope 10:07:41 revanthn: I would like to, but still waiting for my phone company to get a DSL line 10:07:49 revanthn: Define FreeBSD 'developer' 10:07:58 take it loosely 10:08:05 revanthn: Everyone who develops software for FreeBSD is a FreeBSD developers 10:08:08 do you develop any stuff on top of FreeBSD 10:08:45 revanthn: My kernel-space work is mainly some loose modules (some syscall patching to reduce system administration tasks [ex: acl policies]) 10:08:59 revanthn: and my userspace work ranges ;) 10:09:22 revanthn: I don't maintain any FreeBSD ports as of yet though, will submit some soon after some more testing 10:09:37 revanthn: and you? What operating system(s) do you prefer? 10:10:32 I prefer FreeBSD and Win2000 10:10:43 I really don't go to the LInux World very often 10:11:57 revanthn: What work have you done with FreeBSD? 10:12:09 Phactorial,NULL 10:12:17 revanthn: Win? 10:13:00 --- join: gab (~prfalken@gaia.chx-labs.org) joined #osdev 10:13:59 Phactorial,I primarily work on Embedded controller's 8051 etc 10:14:30 mm 10:16:41 gab bag 10:24:49 Phactorial,why are you intrested in opencores 10:25:01 Nothing happens. 10:25:04 nothing. 10:25:06 none. 10:25:07 nil. 10:25:09 no. 10:25:10 n. 10:25:11 0 10:25:12 revanthn: Many things 10:25:16 we are talking dude 10:25:17 revanthn: ATM: General interest 10:25:30 revanthn: I will be doing work with one of their cores soon though 10:25:38 revanthn: The "OpenRISC" one 10:25:39 Phactorial,so you must be having a like for electronics 10:25:44 revanthn: We will be using it at www.escarab.org 10:25:54 revanthn: For a Middle Eastern-PDA 10:26:00 revanthn: Opensource software/hardware platform 10:26:01 what 10:26:20 what's youre relation with electronics in the educational point of view 10:26:26 * kind of on halts due to hectic time some members are having now, will go on full effects 10:26:47 * Mur goes rest abt 10:26:58 revanthn: I am more of a software guy...my hardware information is minimal mainly due to the lack of resources (I am in highschool, and this country does not exactly have any resources when it comes to Electronics) 10:27:59 revanthn: I am being forced to pick up VeriLog however, do you know any HDL? 10:28:00 Phactorial,so you want to develop software for that OpenRISC architecture 10:28:24 Phactorail,I am also geting started with VHDL 10:28:30 who's forcing you 10:28:33 revanthn: We will be developing software (porting Linux, port is mainly done, but some driver work for our hardware [input and storage media, we will probably use OpenCores LCD chipset]) 10:29:19 revanthn: Some other members, I really forced it on to myself to also atleast have some role in the hardware design in the future 10:29:26 cores are very error prone even for ppl who work on them commercially I don't this will be any soon that the opnecors.org will make any good RISC machine 10:29:29 revanthn: So, you are in college? 10:29:42 revanthn: Opencores has a lot of support revanthn, quite popular 10:30:01 revanthn: and some of their cores are pretty functional from what I hear 10:30:22 revanthn: A lot of commercial hardware (Very popular even) uses some of their cores 10:30:34 revanthn: and regarding errors, the opensource model should help with this ;) 10:44:25 --- join: virtus (~virtus@ledn-csl-4581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) joined #osdev 10:44:39 Hey 10:44:43 Dude, where have you been? 10:45:01 away 10:45:06 virtus: The boot doc is done, will send it tomorrow 10:45:07 is my guess 10:45:12 Mur: Smart ;] 10:45:24 * Mur is the smartest 10:45:34 It doesn't look like it 10:45:44 Just 10 other people appeared at the same time as him Mur 10:45:50 and...he is still idle ;) 10:46:43 --- quit: Aardappel (Connection timed out) 10:47:10 --- quit: lodda (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:47:26 make sense 10:47:29 make clean 10:47:32 cli 10:47:33 sti 10:47:40 xor ax, ax 10:47:45 mov 0, 0 10:47:48 ; done 10:47:52 what you say now? 10:47:53 heh 10:48:06 --- join: jbreker (~jbreker@HSE-Ottawa-ppp236246.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 10:48:10 xor Mur, Mur is what I say ;) 10:48:31 say what you say 10:48:41 --- join: pavlovski (~Tim@host217-43-101-150.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) joined #osdev 10:48:43 cli ; Phactorial 10:49:17 mv /dev/hello >pavlovski 10:49:49 for %i in (all) do hello %i 10:49:54 Mur: man mv 10:50:06 Phactorial, 10:50:11 oh it supposed to be CAT not MV 10:50:12 17:46 [OPN] network [levin@lilo.staff.freenode] requested CTCP VERSION from $*: 10:50:13 :P 10:50:15 Hah! 10:50:18 Flood! 10:50:44 Mur: more US propaganda 10:50:44 http://mfile.akamai.com/5022/wmv/artbell.download.akamai.com/5022/clips/AC130_GunshipMed.asx 10:50:45 ? 10:50:59 AC130 gunship targetting video 10:51:09 dd if=../hello of=pavlovski 10:51:19 * Mur hates army videos 10:51:30 i coudl watch such videos all day long if i wished to 10:51:31 but i dont 10:52:47 --- quit: trans (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:52:58 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:55:24 --- join: wl_ (philipp@pD9E2DBFD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 10:55:46 Mur: man dd 10:55:56 dd if=/dev/urandom of=Mur is more like it ;) 10:57:09 Phactorial, more like dd if=Mur of=/dev/urandom 10:57:43 lol 10:58:15 and it's more random that before 11:05:23 hihi, good evening 11:06:34 --- quit: wl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:06:41 dont laugh. writing dd is serious business 11:06:52 it can cause sleeples nights 11:06:57 and broken hard disks 11:07:03 children crying 11:07:10 pain 11:07:12 pain pain 11:07:18 endless flames 11:07:22 cold night 11:07:25 broken windows 11:07:30 stfu 11:07:44 no 11:07:50 unknown command 11:07:59 if you talk instead 11:08:00 Phactorial, 11:08:10 then i shall if i dontn eed to keep up the good mood here 11:08:12 hah! 11:08:15 woudl you? 11:10:28 heh, whatever you wish Mur 11:10:33 Just don't flood 11:10:44 You could join #flood and warn others of nightmares 11:10:48 :) 11:10:53 * Mur saw night mare lasst night 11:10:58 actually, it was weird 11:11:19 i was escaping officers running in woods 11:11:29 --- join: lodda (~htjonhigf@p508FE032.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 11:11:59 in the end i asked some (imaginary) person to bring me mince meat pastes, sugar, water hmm.. yeah 11:12:01 :) 11:12:13 Mur: huh? 11:12:13 i must have been exhausted if i asked those in dream 11:12:33 * Mur saw last night night mare where he run away officers that traced me iwth dog 11:12:44 i dont know why i jumped and ran on stones, thoguht 11:12:55 now that i think more the dog woudl have jumped on them butnot the humans 11:12:56 stupid me 11:13:02 ld: PE operations on non PE files 11:13:05 no wonder i was exhaused in the end :D 11:13:06 (cygwin) 11:13:09 what's that? 11:13:16 hmm. 11:13:25 pavlovski: what have you bought? :D 11:15:05 later 11:15:45 bye Mur 11:18:32 --- join: Ghiottone (~alex@ppp-232-11.27-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 11:18:39 hi Ghiottone 11:20:48 --- quit: wl_ (""alea jacta est"") 11:21:06 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@manz-d9b95664.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 11:21:13 hey Mathis :) 11:21:44 hoi 11:22:06 hey lodda 11:22:16 Schutsch was asking for you 11:22:30 hehe 11:22:37 I was sleeping till now 11:22:40 btw you know what that means: ld: PE operations on non PE files ? 11:22:44 Mathis: wut? 11:22:50 from when? 11:23:07 12°° 11:23:19 with a break from 16°° to 17°° 11:23:37 didn't u sleep the night before? 11:23:54 normally we dont sleep while we work 11:24:15 ;) 11:24:19 normally? :) 11:24:52 night shift 11:28:19 when Schutsch ask for me? 11:28:30 asked... 11:29:51 yesterday 11:30:06 at about this time 11:30:17 I had night shift yesterday at this time 11:30:26 (he is in austria now) 11:30:45 Schutsch@stargate-49-158.salzburg-online.at 11:30:57 i like the stargate in it =) 11:32:23 I think I upset air *g* 11:34:56 assuming that he wont talk to me anymore... 11:35:05 heh? 11:35:42 I told him that I dont like the idea of have no programs... 11:36:54 if air doesn't talk to you because of that, he would beweird 11:38:12 he tried to explain some things in it, maybe it was explained too bad or I was too tired to get the point, he became upset, also I was asking him for what we need this and that... 11:38:29 dolt 11:38:39 ehehe 11:38:46 and he became funny *g* 11:38:47 what does 'dolt' mean? 11:39:11 Tolpatsch 11:39:38 ah 11:40:49 terve Mathis 11:40:49 he thinks I am one because I didnt understand what he explained 11:40:56 hoi mur 11:41:20 Mathis: hehe =) 11:41:32 wouldn't that be a dumb? 11:41:39 you can simulate lag if you scroll one screen up :) 11:42:14 --- join: alphakiller (~1234@200.190.91.169) joined #osdev 11:42:17 hey guys 11:42:23 hoi alpha 11:42:28 terve alphakiller 11:42:31 * lodda borrowed "BSD 4.3 system internals" in german 11:42:31 aloha mathis 11:42:37 Heh. 11:42:37 hi alphakiller 11:42:41 Hi there 11:42:41 oi lodda 11:42:45 hi Robbie 11:42:54 terve lodda 11:42:57 ja terve Robert 11:43:04 hey murrr! 11:43:05 terve kaikki 11:43:20 como vai mur ! 11:43:22 "Good cookie"? 11:44:27 Robert! you know it's "hello all" 11:44:36 --- quit: marcus_o (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:44:41 dont pretend you wouldnt know finnish 11:44:52 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 11:45:24 who wants to talk! 11:45:28 anyone 11:45:29 ? 11:45:31 someone? 11:45:34 no one? 11:45:36 Mur 11:45:36 . 11:45:37 one one? 11:45:40 two one? 11:45:45 sometwo? 11:45:46 http://www.qzx.com/cria/_screenshots/ <-- can u guys access that? 11:45:58 Mur: :P 11:45:58 air, i fixed some for translation 11:46:11 it was lost when i rebooted (i saved to /tmp 11:46:14 Mur: send it over 11:46:18 3 lines fixed 11:46:23 i shoudl tranlate it again) 11:46:24 heh 11:46:27 air: not really "Access denied" 11:46:36 lodda: kewl thanks 11:46:42 air, 403 11:46:51 blue screen? 11:46:58 403 = forbidden 11:47:06 blue screen, red letters 11:47:22 and the logo of QZx 11:47:30 air, there was one bug, 1 fix, one better 11:47:57 * Mur NEEDS pAPER 11:48:09 Mur: bug? 11:48:28 Mur: btw, did u try 0.2.8? 11:48:34 %color missing - 11:48:40 "bug" 11:48:52 one letter more in one place 11:48:52 ah 11:48:55 (spelling mistake) 11:50:08 is that dir still 403? 11:50:39 tyes 11:51:01 i'll crrect 11:51:06 dont leave this time 11:51:12 i'll put it to /tmp again 11:53:28 air, 2 fixed 11:53:36 i cant remember the others atm 11:55:02 --- part: rakbladet left #osdev 11:55:22 hmm 11:56:12 is dcc okay, air? 11:56:18 ya 11:56:32 --- quit: Phactorial ("Client Exiting") 11:57:05 might fix some other phrases later 11:57:21 whois Pal_tragando 11:57:52 darkito: yes? 11:58:37 Mur: did u make those changes to the copy in 0.2.8? 11:59:05 Pal_tragando ?? 11:59:28 woo 11:59:33 this is portuguese ;) heheheh it means: Cock sucking 11:59:33 just forgot the slash 11:59:45 hahah 11:59:58 no.. he's mexican :P and it means eating .P 12:00:00 it was the lastest 12:00:03 available 12:00:08 jan something 12:00:29 darkito: in my language signifies Cock Sucking 12:00:36 Mur: ok 12:00:40 --- join: murr- (jukka@baana-62-165-186-42.phnet.fi) joined #osdev 12:00:50 --- nick: murr- -> MUR\ 12:00:50 *means 12:00:52 ar you portuguese? 12:01:00 are 12:01:02 I´m Brazilian 12:01:07 :) 12:01:12 from Rio? 12:01:20 from São Paulo 12:01:39 :P ~~ 12:01:39 < /set MF_LOADING "%info-Avataan tiedosto %fg-$0" 12:01:42 < /set MF_SERVER_CONNECTED "%info-Yhdistetty %host-$0%info-:lle" 12:01:42 have you listen to Moonspell? 12:01:45 < /set MF_NO_ALIASES "%info-Vaihtoehtoisia komentoja ei ole määrätty." 12:01:51 MUR\: that what u changed? 12:01:53 no 12:02:05 those? 12:02:06 np 12:02:13 2 chars :) 12:02:16 why darkito ?? 12:02:21 what song is this ? 12:02:33 no 5 12:02:38 6 12:02:46 "ole " 12:02:49 tiedostoa > tiedosto (changed spelling to more correct) 12:02:54 we dont count spaces >:) 12:02:58 heh 12:03:02 added - to make colour work 12:03:07 --- quit: marcus_o (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: marcus_0!DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net))) 12:03:13 nothing special...they've some lyrics in portugues 12:03:13 and added "is" verb to make it soundbetter 12:03:21 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FF2F9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 12:03:30 darkito: where are u from ? 12:03:34 Spain 12:03:50 hola señoritas! 12:03:53 hahah 12:04:46 mur: ola boiolito ! 12:05:04 darkito xD~ 12:05:14 * file frowns 12:05:16 hey Robert ! how're you today? 12:05:16 unfair, i dont know españa 12:05:20 the downstairs toilet is plugged and I can't unclog it 12:05:24 Fine, fine :) And you? 12:05:28 oh 12:05:30 file: Heh. 12:05:32 mur: seu viado 12:05:37 so i forgot to tell why rio made me drool 12:05:39 any tips? 12:05:46 it wasbecause i wanted to have that kind of ice 12:05:49 rio ? 12:05:50 --- quit: Ghiottone ("Uscita dal client") 12:06:24 there was such hmm argh! what do you call icecream that is more like not milkish but like iced cola or something 12:06:28 anyways it was such 12:06:34 woudlbe lovely now 12:06:39 too bad i cant get one :) 12:06:41 :( 12:06:47 :(~ 12:06:48 --- nick: alphakiller -> alphakiller|away 12:07:47 * MUR\ SYSTEM\ IRC.EXE 12:08:17 * file crashes himself 12:08:41 okay 12:08:48 what does file's logs say? 12:08:51 do 12:09:42 I'll soon start talking to myself 12:09:48 mur 12:09:48 with 2 clients if you dont talk instead! 12:09:55 mur 12:09:59 lodda. 12:10:03 lodda. 12:10:03 mur. 12:10:08 what? 12:10:10 do 12:10:11 you 12:10:14 mean? 12:10:16 just talking for you 12:10:22 not 12:10:24 enough 12:10:31 aw :( 12:10:52 do not talk with two clients! 12:11:05 huh 12:11:08 i'm not mur 12:11:10 yes 12:11:12 you are not 12:11:16 that's another client 12:11:19 i can be only one 12:11:20 yes 12:11:22 i agree 12:11:24 good 12:11:30 extra fine 12:11:32 --- join: dh (~dh@80-235-55-209-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) joined #osdev 12:11:38 greatish greatest great 12:11:46 absolutely wonderfullous great 12:11:50 enough. 12:12:02 lol 12:12:03 anyways, join #=) on irc.oftc.net to talk with me 12:12:10 no one there atm 12:12:12 :( 12:12:24 ok :) 12:12:53 OH 12:12:55 air air air 12:13:01 remember to change the server for the release 12:13:07 it has old OPN server that does not work anymore 12:15:56 uhh 12:16:03 i changed that 12:17:25 if u had an existing ~/.cria/ then it wouldnt have copied over the new servers file 12:17:39 --- join: SLACKo (~SLACKo@62.114.147.238) joined #osdev 12:18:10 if u didnt make changes to ~/.cria/* then just rm that dir and run cria again 12:19:18 i did forget to change "OPN" to "FN" tho 12:19:45 what are you doing? 12:20:02 file: who? 12:20:11 you 12:20:22 im chatting with mur on irc 12:20:30 uh huh 12:20:33 a likely story 12:21:03 next i will be preparing another beta of bfe2 12:21:19 air have you created bfe the font editor? 12:21:32 and hoping that sf accepts bfe 12:21:41 MUR\: huh?!?! 12:21:57 there is bfe font editor 12:22:25 where? 12:22:33 yes i absolutely agree with MUR\ 12:22:38 at least in debian 12:23:26 sure 12:23:59 cappucino application is cool 12:24:00 :) 12:24:20 --- nick: alphakiller|away -> alphakiller 12:24:48 air, i can blast it on your desktop 12:25:24 if you wish to see it 12:26:00 ok 12:26:14 how did it go? 12:26:18 again 12:26:40 export DISPLAY="qzx.com:0.0" ; command 12:26:50 oh yes 12:27:03 its a fake :) 12:27:07 hehe 12:27:18 it can continue for any long time 12:27:18 --- nick: zZzToxic -> NonTOxic 12:27:20 --- nick: NonTOxic -> NonToxic 12:28:24 hmm 12:28:35 would be better if the #1 changed to #2 and so on 12:28:46 it does 12:28:49 you just have to wait 12:28:50 :) 12:28:59 the bar has started over twice now 12:29:09 oh 12:29:16 it does here at least 12:29:25 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 12:30:18 --- nick: geist-sleep -> geist 12:30:30 * air is hungry 12:30:40 --- join: trans (deexpj@fatwire-201-223.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 12:30:52 * air doesnt want to get off his fat ass to get food 12:31:01 I guess you'll starve 12:31:03 air: did it went to installing module stage? 12:31:12 MUR\: u killed it 12:31:13 then after that it starts #2 12:31:17 air: yes 12:31:28 do you want to watch it? 12:31:31 nah 12:35:14 hey geistie 12:36:13 --- quit: lynx ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 12:37:06 http://qzx.com/polls/?page=brix <-- does that page still work for u guys? 12:37:37 works for me 12:37:50 yes 12:37:55 thanks 12:38:22 what about qzx.com/brix/_info/_crush/ 12:39:09 air, you shoudlnt display what people have voted 12:39:12 I just found the neatest thing on one of my old backup floppies 12:39:13 it affects to voting 12:39:34 air, the poll voting doenst work 12:39:55 doesnt work? 12:40:08 it said invalid something [ ] in lynx 12:40:17 oh 12:40:22 ya it dont work in lynx 12:40:33 lynx is a bad client 12:40:47 bad but fast >:) 12:40:49 fools! 12:41:52 maybe i should remove the referal check 12:43:11 doom! 12:43:13 doom! 12:43:28 geist is blwingto pieces again 12:43:43 I am your worst enemy 12:44:12 13:38 what about qzx.com/brix/_info/_crush/ 12:45:19 access denied 12:45:19 if you post a url, please do so with the http:// 12:45:24 jbreker: thanks 12:45:24 just for future reference 12:45:30 Access Denied here too 12:46:45 wtf?!?!?! 12:46:55 3465738 Aug 7 04:17 magick.miff 12:47:23 that was in the _crush dir 12:48:08 oh no, you've been attacked by the magick.miff virus! 12:48:23 the only solution is to throw the computer into the ocean 12:48:41 and hope the terrible evil does not rise again in your lifetime 12:49:17 --- quit: darkito ("happy new year") 12:49:30 --- quit: revanthn () 12:50:54 `cp * foo/` that doesnt copy dot files correct? 12:51:33 right 12:52:16 of course, it'd be easy to test that 12:52:25 didnt knew that cp takes wildcards are argument... 12:52:38 are/as 12:52:41 well sure 12:52:47 I think the shell expands it actually 12:52:48 marcus_o: thats why yer a dolt 12:52:59 doh! 12:53:00 Mathis: thats why yer a dolt 12:53:05 ehehe 12:53:14 air: do I have to shoot myself now? 12:53:21 anyway, the shell expands the * and cp gets a list of files 12:53:39 occasionally you want to send the * to an app, like for example 'find' 12:53:58 and you have to usually encapsulate the * with ' ' so the shell takes it as a literal 12:54:32 but I also think a lot of the bloat in bash or whatnot arr little exceptions to the rule so it works more cleanly with your stuff 12:55:31 \* for * as character 12:55:39 not as wildcard 12:55:50 that too 13:01:34 assuming air's answer to be 'yes' 13:02:51 hows it goin guys? 13:02:58 looks pretty slow today 13:03:16 guess people are out protestig 13:04:15 not me 13:04:35 moo 13:04:36 i'm here too 13:04:37 kinda 13:04:54 thinking & browsing the intarweb 13:05:17 and downloading freebsd 5.0-RELEASE :) 13:05:38 they finally released the final 5.0? 13:06:30 not officialy 13:06:35 hey daxie! 13:06:41 but 5.0-RELEASE is on most mirrors atm 13:07:33 * MUR\ is still quiet. 13:07:36 I'm downloading it too 13:07:51 but do remember that it's not a STABLE release 13:07:57 i know 13:07:59 they wont mark it stable until 5.1 or 5.2 13:08:02 cool 13:08:09 but it will be better than RC1 i was using a while ago 13:08:13 you bet 13:11:03 i don't like to waste my time installing OSes :/ 13:11:43 this isn't wasting time! this is freebsd! 13:11:45 hmm 13:11:51 wow the download is already done 13:11:54 didn't notice that 13:12:10 dax: how long has it need? 13:12:10 :D 13:12:19 the download? dunno 13:12:25 BOOOORING 13:12:31 you talk a ll weird things 13:12:33 not too long, it was only like 220mb or so 13:12:35 always abuot version numbers 13:12:38 or paste code 13:12:43 which has one character bug 13:12:49 and then you paste 200 lines 13:12:51 to search for it 13:13:14 then you notice that you had writen /^ instead or /* 13:15:39 * lodda has borrowed BSD 4.3 design & implementation in a normal library(translated into german). That was kinda nice. 13:19:39 K 13:20:33 hm 13:21:47 be quiet MUR\ 13:22:43 bah ! 13:22:48 i said quiet 13:22:50 k 13:22:54 lol, he is speaking to himself again! 13:22:55 good 13:23:19 --- quit: dh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:30:32 --- join: jsr (www@du-13-158.ppp.telenordia.se) joined #osdev 13:32:25 hrmpf 13:33:11 j00 aar oäll szo queiet..wei? 13:33:34 too much beer, lodda 13:33:37 even germans have limits 13:34:08 bekoz joo arr a zstranj Churman 13:35:51 pavlovski: zänkss 13:36:01 njet! je arr da ztraneja presidenta 13:36:16 pavlovski: ei lav ju tu 13:36:46 wanks 13:36:49 lodda: äääääää 13:36:57 WOW! 13:37:04 umlausts! 13:37:06 :) 13:37:43 MUR\: and? 13:37:43 actually, you can type áéíóú on a British keyboard for some reason 13:37:51 and ÁÉÍÓÚ of course 13:38:18 pavlovski: doannt ju lav mii? 13:38:51 lodda: ij lkhav j00 lyk ein fisch 13:39:22 you love fishs? bah 13:40:05 * Mur laughs a bit to text: 13:40:31 you know the simpsons episode where a actor has sex with some fishs and needs a woman? 13:40:47 but i cant translate, it woudl lose all it's sharpness 13:40:57 mmm, planet of the apes, simpsons stype 13:41:00 style 13:46:16 --- quit: marcus_o (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: marcus_0!DSLflat@p508FDD36.dip.t-dialin.net))) 13:46:30 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FDD36.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 13:52:42 BOOOORING 13:55:34 yes 13:55:46 this quote DOES represent my opinion 13:55:53 --- join: sayke_ (~abuse@sttldslgw29poolE136.sttl.uswest.net) joined #osdev 13:58:03 --- join: kennyt (~ken@dsl092-170-096.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #osdev 13:58:40 hi 13:59:13 --- quit: sayke (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13:59:51 mh 13:59:55 hello kennyt 14:00:06 kennyt = kennies in finnish (plural of kenny) :) 14:00:16 :) 14:09:41 --- quit: alphakiller () 14:09:45 damn! kenny is dead! (Southpark) 14:11:45 lol 14:12:04 you killed me! you bastards! 14:12:20 shoudl we talk to you in plural? 14:12:21 :P 14:12:31 oh! 14:12:35 nyt = now 14:12:40 it coudl be ken now! 14:12:41 :) 14:12:58 (japanese)ken = sword 14:12:58 okie dokey 14:13:00 sword now! 14:13:56 --- nick: kennyt -> kennyt_away 14:13:59 bbiab :) 14:14:00 ken = whom in finnish 14:14:04 old 14:14:10 ken nyt? who now :) 14:14:55 * Mur changed lynx to historical parsing mode :( 14:15:01 it works like more 14:15:01 :P 14:20:41 --- join: jsr^03 (www@du-13-246.ppp.telenordia.se) joined #osdev 14:23:59 MUR\: does qzx.com/polls/?page=brix work in lynx now? 14:24:44 yes 14:24:48 --- join: darkito (darkito@80-25-82-102.uc.nombres.ttd.es) joined #osdev 14:24:55 hola k tal 14:25:04 terve darkito 14:25:18 ouchs 14:25:19 hihi 14:25:20 heh 14:25:24 hola Mur 14:25:25 --- quit: file (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: file[bedr!jwired@mctn1-2814.nb.aliant.net))) 14:25:35 --- join: file (jwired@mctn1-2814.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 14:26:25 ohh, this ticks me off 14:26:41 I just got a spam that was made to look like it was coming from my mail system 14:26:58 I've seen loads of that 14:27:03 grr, fuckers 14:27:04 evil 14:27:07 they use your domain name but a random xxx@ 14:27:21 this was like postmaster@mydomain 14:27:33 now they send [female name] with (uhmm..|hello) 14:27:47 this was like 'error in mail...' 14:27:55 then you go to it, and it's a fucking spam 14:28:05 :( 14:28:16 i wonder how spammers make profit 14:28:23 * file bows to everyone 14:28:27 yeah, I meant it was meant to look like it came from the mailer daemon, not just my domain 14:28:28 we shoudl track down the mail servers and burn them 14:28:43 or get spammers names and then spam then like it happened to one 14:29:22 do you want to pay for snail mail to costa rico or something like that? 14:29:38 snail mail? 14:29:40 FEDEX! 14:29:49 wanna pay for it? 14:29:56 me? okay 14:30:02 you can't spam them back via email 14:30:12 that does nothing, you have to star sending them physical mail 14:30:18 once you figure out where they live 14:30:34 but lots of em live in some randomcountryor something 14:30:43 becomes a bit hard to afford spamming em 14:31:53 send anthrax to the spammer =) ;) 14:33:05 * geist looks nerviously around for the feds to come busting in the window 14:33:34 pavlovski, what did you bought with the £800? 14:34:04 Mur: two CDs and two Pentium Pro heatsinks so fa 14:34:04 are 14:34:07 *r 14:34:17 what cds? 14:34:50 Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld 14:34:51 and 14:35:05 Lemon Jelly - Lost Horizons 14:35:11 was orb finnish? 14:35:18 or was it orbit 14:35:21 British I think 14:35:21 some techno or ambient 14:35:33 yep, ambient and/or techno 14:35:52 eeh, i don't like techno, trance or what it is called 14:37:31 * pavlovski wonders why he's listening to random MP3s when he's got an unopened Lemon Jelly album on his desk 14:37:45 yay #osdev got kinda big 14:37:46 --- quit: jsr^03 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:38:06 40 people 14:38:15 pavlovski: because you have no cd-player? 14:38:17 20 more since 2 months 14:38:21 Mur: nearly 14:38:22 no, because I forgot 14:38:35 lodda: I finished listening to Orb but Lemon Jelly was still in the bag 14:38:36 (they still dont talk) 14:38:37 :) 14:38:40 pavlovski: lol, i was joking 14:38:52 Mur: :) 14:39:18 oh gosh this is good 14:39:25 it's "research" about peelo 14:39:27 's 14:39:30 --- quit: jsr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:39:39 MUR\ :D 14:40:18 what a strange CD case 14:40:50 it's made of cardboard, and it's a picture of the English countryside in the style of a 3D rendering 14:41:14 uhmm 14:41:28 now it's the first time you look at the case? :) 14:41:44 it's the first time I opened the case, yes 14:42:02 and there's no writing on it anywhere, not even the CD itself 14:42:32 made for analphabets? 14:42:38 maybe 14:43:42 huh? "ld: unrecognized option '--image-base'" 14:45:01 hmm 14:45:12 argh! wrong channe; 14:45:12 l 14:45:18 if there is no text that does not mean it woudl have been made for analphabetics 14:48:27 MUR\: hmm 14:48:45 * pavlovski wonders how anyone knows what each track is called if they don't tell you on the case 14:49:02 sigur ros does not have names either 14:49:10 nameless 14:49:35 * air is gonna leave the internet until brix is ready 14:49:47 goodbye everyone 14:50:43 byebye 14:50:56 good bye 14:50:57 air: huh, really? 14:51:07 tell xeon to find a new host for his os 14:51:33 we'll see you with cria in brix? 14:51:35 air: will qzx.com be up? 14:51:40 pavlovski: nope 14:51:46 hmm, shame 14:51:54 anyone wanna host the library? 14:52:18 have you seen www.0xfi.com/oslib ? 14:52:27 they have the most OS-related docs I've seen 14:52:32 maybe you could merge it with them 14:52:54 pavlovski: i downloaded it. it has needed quite a long time 14:52:59 (a few hours) 14:53:21 pavlovski: u want to merge it? 14:53:29 air: who'll be the weird op then? 14:53:38 air: well, maybe you could give me the docs and I could approach Frank? 14:53:45 k 14:55:46 pavlovski: hows möbiys wokring? 14:55:47 i've send xeon a memo o_O (i'd forget it) 14:56:00 MUR\: good, I'm talking to frankie in #mobius now 14:56:10 he's getting the sources to build on his machine 14:56:57 pavlovski: get the dcc 14:57:04 --- quit: marcus_o (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:57:15 air: got it, thanks 14:58:22 air: ah, is the qzx library a collection of links? 14:58:28 you don't host the documents yourself? 14:58:37 just links 14:58:49 k, thx 14:58:58 with a search engine 14:58:58 what I might do is upload this lot to my SF webspace 14:59:06 air: will bespin.org/~qz stay? 14:59:11 lodda: ya 14:59:11 then you'll get http://www.themobius.co.uk/library/ 15:00:04 change the topic too 15:00:12 good night 15:00:33 lets see how long i can stay off the net :) 15:00:47 i made it a week the last time i tried 15:01:11 --- quit: air ("CRIA 0.2.8 -- http://cria.sf.net") 15:01:19 :( 15:01:25 --- quit: lodda ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 15:08:57 --- quit: SLACKo (Remote closed the connection) 15:33:43 --- quit: Mathis ("Shutdown sequence initiated...") 15:49:28 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-120-139.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 15:49:48 hello 15:49:57 Hi there. 15:50:27 hello here? 15:50:59 no, HI there 15:51:02 :) 15:51:03 --- quit: jgraham (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:51:51 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:54:33 gianluca, do you have email client open? 15:54:54 mur. yes, why? 15:55:53 can you send me one url so i dont have to write it down and lose the paper 15:56:47 ok 16:04:01 Hello, World! 16:04:02 --- join: DRF (Daniel@host81-7-54-57.surfport24.v21.co.uk) joined #osdev 16:05:33 world says hello Rico 16:05:48 hello rico 16:05:54 yay 16:05:55 Hoi, Rico! 16:05:57 And hey darkito :) 16:05:58 anything new? 16:06:00 oi! 16:06:03 heheh 16:06:14 terve Rico 16:06:23 my throat still hurts :( 16:06:26 terve == ? 16:06:57 terve = hello in finnish 16:07:17 something like "ciao" :) 16:08:22 hallo = hello in dutch 16:08:41 hoi = hi in dutch 16:09:01 duits = german in dutch 16:09:17 tere = hello in estonian 16:09:22 hei in norwgian 16:09:27 hej in swedish 16:09:27 Ik praat veel duits. 16:09:36 --- join: pengo (~xtofu@CPE-144-132-240-211.nsw.bigpond.net.au) joined #osdev 16:09:38 privet in russian 16:09:40 PENGU :) 16:09:41 ik praat amper duits 16:09:45 Pryvit in ukranian :P 16:09:55 hey pengo 16:09:57 whats the time there? 16:10:02 MURUU 16:10:05 salue in latin :-) 16:10:08 11:10am and i just woke up 16:10:09 salve in italian 16:10:27 au != austria? 16:10:32 pengo :) 16:10:37 .at = austria 16:10:41 .au australia 16:10:45 evil pengo :) 16:10:49 oh. thanks people 16:11:00 hey i'm not evil.. i'm australian 16:11:02 pengo you dind't slept much! 16:11:16 what time did i go to bed? 16:11:25 just a while ago :) 16:11:32 about 2am i thought 16:11:42 time moves differently in the northern hemisphere 16:11:53 i have not been here for 20 hours! 16:11:54 :P 16:12:04 only 19 16:12:08 :) 16:12:14 well 18 actually 16:12:23 and you went to sleep just some time ago 16:12:29 max 4 hours 16:12:46 hrm 16:12:56 i had some cool dreams tho 16:13:20 i dreamt i went to a party with all really cool people 16:13:48 all really sophisticated and intelligent and switched on 16:14:09 switched on? 16:14:15 and they were talking about lord of the rings III a bit cause they'd seen it of course 16:14:55 switched on / with it / happening / know what's going on 16:15:24 :D 16:15:33 was plato and socrates talking too 16:15:42 * MUR\ had unsophisticated dream 16:15:43 and then i got a headache and this guy massaged a couple of points on my head and i was better again 16:15:45 last night 16:16:00 maybe it had something to do with me sleeping without a pillow 16:16:05 i was beign tracked by officers or similar and i ran all the time in the woods escaping them 16:16:06 they had a dog 16:16:20 and i had some hundred metres forehand to them 16:16:30 hmm.. do you live with your parents? 16:16:41 * MUR\ almost felt asleep on carpet today 16:16:49 uhmm why? 16:17:36 just trying to interpret your dream 16:18:26 aparently some of the characters in LOTR III are going to be able to choose one item from the future, and frodo baggins ends up with a mac-10 16:18:56 and the sophisticated types who have read the book will be most dissapointed 16:18:57 hah 16:19:05 dreams are silly 16:19:27 yeah but they can be cool 16:20:01 --- quit: DRF (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:21:52 hmm 16:21:54 twa 16:21:55 yea 16:22:00 ined 16:22:03 indeed 16:22:15 i shoudl go sleep :( 16:22:57 but it's morning now 16:23:44 2,5 am 16:24:00 same thing 16:25:50 my ISP raised our upstream :) 16:26:30 is it the time salomon go to upstream mating? 16:30:29 heh 16:30:39 hey i thought you were asleep by now mur 16:32:45 i'll leave when i am offline 16:32:48 uhrmm 16:32:53 ususally :) 16:33:36 heh 16:33:37 good night 16:34:43 hmm 16:34:50 perhaps i even shoulg to sleep 16:35:09 this client shuts down now 16:35:15 (another still up) 16:35:21 --- quit: MUR\ ("true") 16:35:48 damn.. can't talk behind his back 16:40:23 :) 16:41:50 --- join: revanthn (~revanthn@203.129.127.70) joined #osdev 16:42:19 hey revanthn 16:42:27 * Mur told it will be 3 am until i get to bed! 16:43:22 >:) 16:44:05 * gianluca reboots 16:44:08 see you people 16:44:25 cya gianluca 16:44:26 hope that irq handling works 16:44:30 --- quit: gianluca ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?") 16:45:22 --- join: virtus_ (~virtus@ledn-csl-4581.adsl.wanadoo.nl) joined #osdev 16:56:00 --- quit: Mur ("MUR!") 16:56:28 --- join: pengo_ (~xtofu@CPE-144-132-240-211.nsw.bigpond.net.au) joined #osdev 16:59:31 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 17:01:01 --- quit: strtok (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:01:22 --- join: strtok (~jwhite@cree.unl.edu) joined #osdev 17:01:24 --- quit: HeavyJoost (".") 17:02:48 --- join: HeavyJoost (~HeavyJoos@a213-84-139-110.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined #osdev 17:03:23 --- join: marcus_o (DSLflat@p508FDD36.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 17:03:44 --- quit: HeavyJoost (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:05:27 --- join: HeavyJoost (~HeavyJoos@a213-84-139-110.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined #osdev 17:06:11 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@manz-d9b95065.pool.mediaWays.net) joined #osdev 17:06:38 --- join: gianluca (~kernel@ppp-27-135.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 17:07:02 back 17:10:29 --- quit: pengo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:15:20 --- join: trans (wwoege@fatwire-201-223.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 17:16:18 --- quit: darkito ("feliz año nuevo") 17:16:42 --- quit: gianluca ("Hey! 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19:15:45 hihi 19:18:19 No. 19:18:23 Better! 19:18:41 "Assembly Language Step-by-Step" ! 19:18:47 i saved up for it 19:20:13 ah 19:25:35 hey Xeon 19:25:38 --- nick: kennyt_away -> kennyt 19:25:57 hey kennyt 19:26:03 wtf are u doing here :P 19:26:29 some os-dev :P 19:26:45 you? 19:30:52 xeon? 19:31:17 sorry 19:31:27 os-dev :) 19:31:33 heh 19:31:37 www.qzx.com/~xeon 19:32:21 erm 19:32:22 nm 19:32:30 it seems to be down right now 19:32:32 --- quit: file (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:32:38 sorry reading new mails 19:32:48 this OS project split yesterday :-\ 19:32:48 wheres air? 19:32:53 eeeevil admins 19:32:54 oh? 19:33:09 really? what was he name of it again? linksos? 19:33:18 yeah 19:33:27 go to http://linksos.org/ 19:34:08 the two admins don't even know c or asm 19:34:13 they don't do anything 19:34:26 not even bugging developers 19:34:39 hrm 19:34:40 well, there were 3 and the newest one was useful 19:34:51 but the others decided to demote him.... ugh 19:35:06 u need to start another project. 19:35:14 that's what we're doing :) 19:35:16 linksos.org :) 19:35:17 heh 19:35:21 we need a name 19:36:26 join TToriX 19:36:29 :) 19:36:37 i suck at colors 19:36:41 --- join: kyelewis (~kyelewis@client-203-166-108-46.net2000.com.au) joined #osdev 19:36:42 im switching to linux 19:36:45 well 19:36:55 kyelewis was the admin :P 19:36:59 nm, i still need to do stuff on windows right now 19:37:19 Hey kyelewis 19:37:23 hi 19:37:26 what's the discussion about? 19:37:33 how i suck at colors 19:37:39 oh, ok :) 19:37:45 Join ToriX 19:37:47 there 19:37:51 thats better 19:38:07 heh 19:38:58 kyelewis: terence mailed my about the forums-announcement and said 'get me off the list' 19:39:00 what a dumbass 19:39:14 lol 19:40:35 he lied a bit when you smurf and terence were talking on IRC last night 19:40:38 :P 19:40:45 yeah, he sure did 19:42:24 heh 19:44:02 --- join: stianh (spandexx@ti531210a080-0309.bb.online.no) joined #osdev 19:44:02 anyone feeling really creative? we need a name ... :) 19:44:06 hey st 19:44:07 hey stianh 19:44:07 heh 19:44:08 wow, this americas army game is pretty fun 19:44:09 ** 19:44:17 hey kemu 19:44:19 no 19:44:21 hey kennyt 19:44:22 :) 19:44:23 geist: yeah, as long as you have a damn good graphic card 19:44:40 well, my machine is no slouch 19:44:45 seems to be handling it pretty well 19:44:53 I'm going through the training right now, pretty neat 19:45:00 kOS is too used 19:45:02 afaik it needs hardware t+l doesnt it? 19:45:07 how about LinuxOS 19:45:11 lol! 19:45:14 you've got to be joking 19:45:19 i'll take that as a joke 19:45:22 even if it wasnt :P 19:45:34 kyelewis: sure, I have a geforce3 19:45:38 kyelewis: how dare you abuse your admin rights?!!?!?!?! i will throw you out of de project 19:45:56 come on - theres' like 30 people in this channel - someone must have a good idea 19:45:58 lol 19:45:59 19:46:03 heh 19:46:25 Xeon: what's your os written in? 19:47:10 http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=244834 19:47:12 kyelewis: LOL 19:47:35 lol 19:47:40 i bet i'm the only one writing an OS in java 19:48:14 kennyt: let me make sure i have this right... the meeting is in something like 17 hours correct? 19:48:21 or 16 hours or however many it is 19:48:22 eum 19:48:25 no... 19:48:31 it's in... 19:48:34 or should i add 24 to that? 19:48:40 or what? 19:48:40 yeah, add 24 :P 19:48:44 ok 19:48:45 hmm 19:48:52 --- join: karingo (karingo@242.portland-11-12rs.or.dial-access.att.net) joined #osdev 19:49:07 40 hours 19:49:11 because monday means more like 9 hours here :) 19:49:13 heh 19:49:13 yea... 19:49:24 ok thnx 19:49:27 :) 19:49:34 pengo: how exactly does that work? 19:49:54 pengo: what will your os do? 19:50:07 --- join: trans (zxkazg@fatwire-201-223.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 19:50:16 kennyt: when its done, i want to port it to visual basic :P 19:50:19 heh 19:50:22 rofl 19:50:32 kyelewis: it does everything.. 19:50:51 think how cool that would be... now you can use our OS *while in windows* ;) 19:51:05 well yeah, interoperability is the key 19:51:22 pengo: it *does* everything, or it *will* do everything? 19:51:42 HAHA 19:52:10 kyelewis: umm.. it would do everything if my "to do" list was a "feature list" 19:52:29 :) 19:52:32 heh 19:53:14 kennyt: sorry 19:53:25 kennyt: i was reading my book :) 19:54:04 its written in C right now, when i get my libc done its going to be converted to C++ and then ill write libstdc++ 19:54:08 --- nick: kyelewis -> kyelewis_brb 19:54:48 Xeon: los (or whatever we're gonna call it) is c++, but it's not really enough code to make use of it yet... :( 19:55:41 yea. i started in C++, but realized it would be too much for me as one person to do it without a bootloader or support code, so ill do it later, when there is enough code to make use of it. 19:55:45 brb 19:55:47 --- part: Xeon left #osdev 19:55:51 --- join: Xeon (~ask@cs666823-113.austin.rr.com) joined #osdev 19:55:55 back 19:55:58 --- nick: kyelewis_brb -> kyelewis 19:56:25 Xeon: your kernel boots straight from the bios? 19:56:31 kOS? haha kOS is so used its not even funny 19:56:43 kennyt: no, i used GRUB, but i now have a bootloader of my own. 19:56:57 the first name i thought of was kOS. 19:57:17 as a matter of fact, the first name a friend of mine suggested was kOS :P 19:57:21 Xeon: we're using grub 19:57:25 yea 19:58:21 wow 19:58:26 the linksos site looks good. 19:58:33 :) 19:58:37 im just now learning PHP in webmastering 19:58:53 and that break-up message really adds the final touch ;) 19:59:15 yea 19:59:19 heh 20:00:16 so...seriously, who did u steal your images from? :P 20:00:23 ask kyelewis 20:00:28 heh 20:00:31 Some of our members have decided to continue on *THEIR* one. (not there) 20:00:48 pengo: what? 20:00:56 web page has grammar bad 20:01:11 i see 20:01:12 :P 20:01:17 where? 20:01:28 * Xeon waits for kyelewis to reveal his secret. 20:01:59 the new website will have new graphics: absolutely completely original :) 20:02:01 The logo is veeery similar to the kde logo :P 20:02:08 which logo? 20:02:09 pengo: where does it say that? 20:02:13 the old linksos logo 20:02:18 the old one? 20:02:22 there's a new one? 20:02:30 :P 20:02:31 well, the late one then 20:02:32 oh sorry only a forum message .. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=244834 20:02:33 pengo: i hope not on a page i edited or wrote :P 20:02:41 pengo: oh, smurf975's? terencevs's? 20:02:43 its not KDE... wrong guesss :P 20:02:44 what linux distro does everyone in here use? 'cept kennyt, Yellow Dog right? 20:02:55 yeah smurf 20:02:57 eh 20:02:58 Xeon: yellow dog is too slow 20:02:59 *heh 20:03:06 mandrake + knoppix 20:03:17 mandrake, but only on my laptop, and without PCMCIA working :( 20:03:22 Xeon: debian and rh 20:03:26 * kyelewis *really* has to get PCMCIA working 20:04:03 kyelewis: it's suprisingly similar to the round thingie here -> http://dot.kde.org/ 20:04:05 Xeon: rh on a 686 and deb on ibook and imac :) 20:04:31 hmm... it is too 20:04:33 * stianh uses redhat and mandrake whenever he feels like an adventure :) 20:04:34 i was thinking about getting rh. debian crashes a lot for me. seriously dont ask why...oh yeah and i like the rh kde enhancements too 20:04:48 well i didnt get it from there obviously... 20:05:12 not saying that, just saying it is very similar ;) 20:05:28 i know it is.... i can see that 20:05:48 http://linksos.org/newlist.php 20:06:44 so it hasnt changed in other words... :P 20:07:01 i think christian thinks that the linksos project will continue... but terence doesnt have the same idea 20:07:03 lol 20:07:13 it won't ... 20:07:19 i mean 20:07:21 ive talked to bgm a bit... but he hasn't decided 20:07:21 no mailing lists anymore 20:07:29 he wants to resolve it and continue 20:07:31 just for starters... :P 20:07:47 that was an incredibly stupid thing to do 20:07:56 he threw out months of work that was stored there 20:08:00 sorry guys 20:08:02 http://kos.enix.org/index.php?lang=en 20:08:03 i've still got a lot 20:08:08 i might save it and post it somewhere 20:08:10 :) 20:08:11 what i have tha tis 20:08:13 *what i have 20:08:28 Xeon: ohh i saw that 20:08:52 Also, the inexperience has a major effect in the development progress, even if the team is 20:08:53 hehe 20:08:55 i can only give you docs from 11/10/2002 forward 20:09:08 thats 10/11 for the europeans here :) 20:09:16 the Kos logo looks like it's designed with a C64 20:09:17 what does UTC use? 20:09:37 oh yeah... i saw that :P 20:09:38 heh 20:09:42 that page 20:10:26 kyelewis: australians too 20:10:37 yes, obviously! 20:10:38 :P 20:10:49 i should know... ;) 20:10:53 what does UTC use? 20:10:59 dd/mm or mm/dc ? 20:11:02 *dd 20:11:06 --- nick: awayToxic -> NonToxic 20:11:09 yyyy-mm-dd 20:11:16 yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss 20:11:16 :P 20:11:17 ok 20:11:21 lol 20:11:32 at least the time is still forwards :) 20:11:35 yay for iso-646 20:11:45 or umm.. whatever that time is 20:11:59 kennyt, does sf.net keep the archives on their server anywhere, can we request them before they're deleted? 20:12:07 or are they deleted immedietly? 20:12:09 kyelewis: i'll ask 20:12:17 ok thnx 20:12:37 as i said, i have from 2002/11/10 onwards, but thats hardly everything 20:15:26 now we play the waiting game... :P 20:16:06 well, while we wait for a response from someone on #sourceforge, how about we play a game to pass the time? :P 20:16:40 heh 20:16:59 lol, a support request would probably be faster, seriously! :P 20:17:26 so are u guys going to start hanging out here? 20:17:46 well we're on freenode now, so i guess its a little easier :) 20:17:50 * kennyt needs to hang out on freenode more 20:18:05 * kennyt used to be on a lot, but moved his irc-ing to slashnet :-\ 20:20:44 !syn 20:21:24 kennyt, how should i give my archives to you for the site? 20:21:36 eum well i dunno...... 20:21:51 for the moment... and in case sf.net cant or won't retrieve the old archives 20:21:57 it'd be best if sf can just send me the mailman archives in its format, so i can plug them in... 20:22:03 hmm 20:22:10 what's their format? 20:22:36 hmm i dont really remember whether Mailman stores it how it displays or if it has its own format :\ 20:23:15 let me see.... 20:23:56 lol 20:24:25 "You don't have this feature installed... would you like to install it..." for god sakes how hard is it to include a CVS exporter in the basic install? :P 20:26:14 kyelewis: you're still subscribed to openmud :P 20:26:19 out goes the coreldraw cd, in goes the office cd 20:26:20 *a member of 20:26:22 so? 20:26:25 :P 20:27:23 if i export to a CSV, can you read one of those with a php script? 20:27:30 maybe........... 20:27:38 i guess so 20:30:19 If anyone else is still alive, I hope you're all thinking about what name we should use :P 20:30:42 --- quit: karingo () 20:31:01 name.name.name.name.name.name.name.name.name.name.name.name.name.name. 20:32:10 no 20:32:19 stfuos 20:33:12 coolos? 20:33:29 * Xeon wonders if its actually been done...hrm... 20:33:43 RtfmOS 20:33:49 Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease :P 20:33:52 thats what i landed on 20:34:17 Shiznay...it hasnt! 20:34:18 try two: Shawnee 20:34:43 try three: termite 20:34:59 try four: bracket 20:35:00 Beneath 20:35:06 i dont think this will work very well :P 20:35:08 devote 20:35:16 honour 20:35:17 flop 20:35:24 scutch 20:35:33 inherence 20:35:47 haha. gynaecology 20:35:52 ? 20:35:55 :P 20:36:15 thats not funny after the other things you've landed on :P 20:36:27 liquid! 20:36:38 actually it was half liquid, half liquer brandy :P 20:37:12 Mazzini? 20:37:15 thats not too bad... 20:37:20 MazziniOS :P 20:37:21 heh 20:37:30 ok, without the OS part 20:38:09 what on earth is Mazzini 20:38:39 stfuos 20:38:44 an italian political theorist and revolutionary apparently 20:39:03 whoopassos 20:39:10 according to the dictionary, he agitated for italian unification and independence 20:40:02 maybe that would be a good name? 20:40:13 and then when people ask what it means, we can say that... :P 20:40:38 "..and we chose if because those values matched the values we wanted in our operating system" ... :P 20:40:43 *chose it 20:41:01 microsoft already agitates me 20:41:03 how about you do the os first 20:41:08 and then pick a name 20:41:12 well we need a name first... :P 20:41:17 not really 20:41:36 next you'll be picking a mascot, and making a web page 20:41:37 that could come later on 20:41:39 they all do that 20:41:50 it's hilarious 20:42:01 after all.... then what do we write when we boot the printf kernel :P 20:42:21 kyelewis: it's not reversable? :o 20:42:43 what's not reversable? 20:42:46 geist: haha, yea. i like my mascot 20:43:04 the whatyoumightcall it boot thing 20:43:12 no never mind 20:43:22 * stianh is away learning to read 20:43:28 learning to read? 20:43:44 literacy is a good thing 20:43:46 Torro the ToriX bull! 20:44:08 yes, I didn't read what you wrote up there correctly and there was a horrible misunderstanding 20:45:18 geist: especially when you're a translator :P 20:45:20 heh 20:46:30 --- nick: kennyt -> kennyt_is_back 20:46:35 * kennyt_is_back . 20:46:37 --- nick: kennyt_is_back -> kennyt 20:51:57 wonder how long it will take for smurf / terence to respond, if they will at all :P 20:52:31 hmm.. my project needs a mascot too 20:53:04 haha 20:53:15 yeah, it's impossible to do anything without a mascot 20:53:25 lol 20:53:36 maybe i'll have a talking toilet 20:53:47 or a sewer pipe with googly eyes 20:53:51 ooooh oooh where can i download? 20:54:50 heh 20:54:56 or kenny the kleptomaniac cunt yeast 20:55:10 lol 20:55:36 of course, you can do without a name, but not without a logo :P 20:55:43 heh 21:03:03 has anybody ever used QNX? 21:03:30 long time ago 21:03:40 how was it? 21:03:58 it was amazing, my whole life changed 21:04:00 --- nick: NonToxic -> zZzToxic 21:04:07 everything in the world was okay 21:04:12 kennyt, maybe we can call the OS NoNameOS :P 21:04:16 and the birds came and sang on my shoulder 21:04:17 lol 21:04:24 nnOS sux 21:04:25 geist: lol :P 21:04:28 and I could fly 21:04:33 and see through walls 21:04:40 but then it crashed 21:04:45 geist: are you sure the OS did that? 21:04:52 and I could never boot it again 21:04:52 you weren't just drunk? 21:04:59 hmm, maybe that was it 21:05:09 anyway, I've poked around on it, it's kind of neat 21:05:26 but at the time I was still working at Be, and the beos slaughtered it performance-wise 21:07:01 yea i heard u could run like 5 movies at once on a p1 with it. 21:07:19 on beos that is 21:07:20 with what? beos or qnx? 21:07:22 ah 21:07:27 :) 21:07:51 sorry, your right, sometimes i dont explain enough :P 21:11:20 --- nick: kyelewis -> kyelewis_away 21:12:00 --- quit: darkito ("tanzzz mein leben tanzzzz && happy new year") 21:13:25 --- nick: kyelewis_away -> kyelewis 21:17:26 --- join: dax_ (~dax@u212-239-163-9.adsl.pi.be) joined #osdev 21:17:38 --- quit: malenfant (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:18:08 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@bmjc1gvy308a.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 21:18:58 --- quit: malenfant (Client Quit) 21:19:55 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@bmjc1gvy308a.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 21:19:57 --- quit: malenfant (Remote closed the connection) 21:20:02 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@bmjc1gvy308a.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 21:20:13 --- quit: malenfant (Remote closed the connection) 21:20:22 --- join: malenfant (~malenfant@bmjc1gvy308a.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined #osdev 21:23:03 *sigh* 21:23:11 ... 21:23:11 oh? 21:23:16 why must all operating systems die. 21:23:35 s/./? 21:23:54 how am i meant to answer that? er.... 21:24:05 because there is really only space for a few 21:24:05 i can't answer that 21:24:09 http://www.advogato.org/article/67.html 21:24:14 heh 21:24:21 it's the transient nature of all things, like the buddha says. 21:24:41 oh wait i just did 21:24:47 heh 21:25:15 --- join: JJoSA (~JJoSA@radsl-bady-03.phx.gblx.net) joined #osdev 21:25:58 --- quit: dax (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:28:23 /etc/init.d/limanuljaskad start 21:30:52 wtf? 21:31:15 take a look at this geist: 21:31:18 http://susceptor.subnett.no/nils/beos/ 21:31:21 look familiar? 21:31:47 er... no 21:31:48 :P 21:32:01 sorry, maybe i should only listen to things directed to me :) 21:36:29 kyelewis: where do you think a trademark with something like our project would be challenged/defended ? 21:36:41 ? 21:36:50 hmm 21:36:50 au? af? eu? na? 21:37:02 the code has always been stored in the usa 21:37:15 --- part: JJoSA left #osdev 21:37:29 but it's been propogated around the world 21:37:35 yeah.... 21:37:56 there was something about that on bbc world recently 21:37:58 on click online 21:38:23 i mean, sort of the same 21:38:33 kyelewis: what's your understanding of the general goals-list? 21:38:36 it was mostly about defamation 21:38:44 the general goals list? 21:38:47 there's a goals list? 21:38:51 just like, 21:38:52 ? 21:39:00 1) multimedia 2) speed 21:39:11 well you know what mine is 21:39:20 ? 21:39:20 just read the intro text... :P 21:39:23 but, hmm 21:39:27 oh heh 21:40:01 speed is important for me personally... but for the project looks are more important 21:40:08 multimedia is important - but not yet :) 21:40:21 so, multimedia support - aesthetics - speed 21:40:22 lets focus on kernel stuff before then :P 21:40:32 yeah 21:40:43 i'm thinking about a name... 21:40:51 hahaha 21:40:54 you guys are silly 21:41:01 :P 21:41:02 we know :( 21:43:58 i'm happy with the name as long it's not prefixed by 'open', 'Open', 'OPEN', or 'OpEn' 21:44:03 well happier :P 21:44:09 lol 21:44:31 OpenFreeOS 21:44:35 OpenMUD :P :P :P 21:44:40 lol :P 21:45:04 grep kennyt /proc/dev/crazy :P 21:45:19 kennyt: http://linksosau.no-ip.org/mazzini.png 21:45:25 grep kennyt /proc/bus/loonieville 21:45:44 ok maybe not 21:45:45 connection refused :( 21:46:04 203 21:46:07 lol 21:46:22 http://203.166.108.49/mazzini.png ? 21:46:29 nup 21:46:36 ergh 21:47:28 oh lol 21:47:43 http://203.166.108.46/mazzini.png ? 21:47:48 ah 21:48:04 requesting... 21:48:30 i'll try to use minimal bandwidth while you're getting it :P 21:48:31 hrmmm 21:48:37 ok....... 21:48:51 looks like the kOS logo, but more magical :P 21:48:52 kyelewis: you need ftp-space or something 21:48:59 magical :P 21:49:00 i have http space to upload to 21:49:11 maybe i should use it :) 21:49:15 actually its almost full 21:49:58 i don't usually use it because of the lack of cgi, php, or anything else slightly usable apart from space 21:50:28 * kyelewis still has old linksos site there /me thinks 21:51:18 lol stupid IE 21:51:57 An error occured copying a file to the FTP Server: 21:52:08 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for mazzini.png. 21:52:19 hrmm 21:52:22 well i saw it... 21:52:48 IE has terrible ftp support 21:53:02 it has terrible everything 21:53:02 * kyelewis knows :) 21:53:16 it fills hd space nicely 21:53:20 lol 21:53:28 heh 21:53:36 too bad vc.net requires it =/ 21:53:44 stupid microsoft 21:54:04 kyelewis: bash-> sftp abc.png your.server.com:hrmmm.png 21:54:13 no sftp? how the hell? 21:54:15 lol 21:54:20 hrmmmm :) 21:55:31 hello 21:56:19 NetBSD source is dirty and discusting 21:56:47 --- nick: kennyt -> kennyt_brb 21:57:09 that you for sharing that 21:57:28 most operating system source is 21:57:31 err, wait 21:57:33 your welcome 21:57:37 ALL operating system source is 21:57:45 nope 21:57:56 look at nbsd's 21:58:02 you will puke as i did 21:58:46 the small bit of freebsd source I've poked at wasn't too terrible..wasn't great though...linux *puke* 22:00:29 --- nick: kennyt_brb -> kennyt 22:00:40 for the most part 22:00:45 beos kernel was relatively clean 22:00:55 but not as advanced in lots of ways to the others 22:00:58 so maybe that's why 22:01:02 well, we all know what happened to that =P 22:01:12 that's right 22:01:34 though I'm sure that the failure didn't have a whole lot to do with the cleanliness of the source 22:02:29 heh, maybe it did... =) 22:02:37 right... 22:27:02 --- join: kyethespy (~kyelewis@203.166.109.132) joined #osdev 22:28:16 is there a way to mount an ftp directory? 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22:40:28 ah, not... 22:40:30 yay! The gtld-servers entry now points to my dns server! 22:40:57 in the wrong direction but.... 22:41:25 so right now you dont have anything you could present on your site except a small kernel which prints out some text? 22:41:37 correct.... 22:41:39 woah, still multimedia *g* 22:42:36 wow, a lot of gtld servers are out of commission... 22:43:21 did you ever write an OS? 22:43:31 huh? 22:44:05 do you KNOW what amount of work that means? 22:44:11 yes 22:44:24 i don't expect it to be easy 22:44:30 and i'm not doing it all on my own 22:45:05 mmm, I got up to keyboard input and reading the file list off a FAT formatted floppy before I quit caring, heh 22:45:10 heh, I dont have anything to present so I cant make a website for now... 22:46:10 it's useful to spread news within the group 22:47:02 yeah 22:47:09 but it's nothing for the public... 22:47:21 only the FAQ and cvs info 22:48:48 yeah 22:48:58 so nothing for the public...# 22:49:14 the faq is for the public 22:49:19 in my mind... ;-) 22:49:25 news will be once we decide to release 22:50:03 would it not be cool to surprise the public with existing code? 22:52:17 kenny? 22:52:31 it's not necessary 22:53:18 of course, yes 22:53:28 but wouldnt it be cool? 22:54:19 i see it looking better if at least some people know about it before the release... it doesn't look like some crude hack assembled so we can call it 0.0.1 22:54:47 when it will rise to 0.0.2 ? 22:56:42 --- join: logger_1 (~kos-logge@scatter.umd.edu) joined #osdev 22:56:42 * logger_1 is logging 22:56:48 :) 22:57:22 anyway, i'm out 22:57:23 bye 22:57:27 --- nick: kennyt -> kennyt_z||z 22:57:53 tsss 23:04:17 hey geist 23:04:32 important message for you... 23:16:16 --- join: Kurt (~kmw@gc-nas-01-s183.cinergycom.net) joined #osdev 23:38:03 --- quit: kyelewis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:53:05 --- join: jgraham (~jgraham@12-222-165-18.client.insightBB.com) joined #osdev 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/03.01.18