00:00:00 --- log: started osdev/03.09.08 00:10:21 --- quit: CLxyz () 00:12:41 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:54:11 --- join: CLxyz (CLxyz@00-01-03-d2-a4-07.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 01:00:07 * debug comes home from school 01:03:48 --- join: Schutsch (~nihil@pD9E76697.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 01:12:12 --- quit: CLxyz () 01:18:01 --- quit: asm () 01:30:38 --- join: trans (nnjnkf@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 01:47:40 --- join: CLxyz (~clxyz@00-01-03-d2-a4-07.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 02:05:40 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:12:26 okay, so tonight I've pretty much gotten a TSS loaded and my ass handed to me wrt. loading luserspace and attempting to do serial io 02:14:53 * geist tries to figure out what the apple 2 disk rom is doing 02:14:57 it's super dense code 02:18:53 hi geist, just letting you know about my floppy driver problem earlier, indeed, it had to do with the way i was setting up my DMA 02:19:25 oh good 02:25:55 oh shit now i see it 02:26:07 why it's failing. now why is it this way? 02:32:56 yay, figured it out 02:35:15 good, now time to sleep 02:38:17 ??? 02:38:24 11:40 in germany 02:38:29 am ! 02:43:04 yeah 02:43:09 Schutsch: sup? 02:44:15 ? 02:44:17 sup ? 02:44:32 he meant, "up yours" 02:45:02 aha 02:45:06 ;) 02:45:19 bad boy lynx 02:52:45 uh? 02:52:55 yeah well. 02:52:58 * lynx is away 03:04:37 Heh :-p 03:05:13 Isn't that something like "How are you?" 03:05:19 yea 03:05:27 whats up = sup 03:05:36 :-) 03:06:54 aha 03:07:23 11:40:51 ( Schutsch) 11:40 in germany. I'm also in GMT +1 03:08:23 where ? 03:09:48 Schutsch: Sweden. 03:10:02 ah 03:10:05 ok 03:12:06 --- join: idle (fool@ppp-208-27-1-30.kinex.net) joined #osdev 03:22:50 --- quit: cookin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:23:35 --- join: cookin (~jrydberg@h55x405.delphi.afb.lu.se) joined #osdev 03:30:52 --- join: trans (aqrzrd@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 03:33:49 --- join: kdehl (~madman@h127n1fls33o877.telia.com) joined #osdev 03:39:06 * Schutsch cu 03:39:08 --- quit: Schutsch () 03:45:05 --- join: TheJayFans (~fanciacat@vp201122.kln.uac1.hknet.com) joined #osdev 03:45:45 hello, does anyone know of a good linker under windows tat can output flat binary files? 03:46:45 Doesn't gnu's LD work in Windows? 03:46:57 umm dunno but i cant find it 03:47:00 In djgpp or whatever it's claled. 03:47:01 called 03:47:08 o 03:47:15 This gcc port to Windows. 03:47:26 o reallie 03:47:28 didnt know that 03:47:49 thx :) 03:48:09 tlink? 03:48:18 umm i dun think it can 04:19:35 --- join: Dr_Evil (DSLflat@p508FECFC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:29:22 --- join: wl (philipp@pD9E2D820.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:30:01 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:37:57 gargle 04:51:29 google 04:51:33 giggle 04:51:57 gaggle 04:52:01 goggle 04:57:17 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@pD9EA9DA0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 04:57:30 hi 05:01:41 --- quit: idle ("Sic Sempere Tyrannis!") 05:05:01 --- join: idle (fool@208.27.0.79) joined #osdev 05:07:18 gasp 05:09:35 asap 05:12:00 quack 05:21:02 --- join: rtty (~yuriz@rcr.teraflops.com) joined #osdev 05:26:47 --- quit: Dr_Evil () 05:27:01 --- join: Smari (~spm@optimized.bitcode.org) joined #osdev 05:46:36 --- quit: lynx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:48:27 --- join: trans (kqwpef@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 05:51:17 --- join: lynx (~lodsb@pD95449E4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 06:09:08 OpenBSD 3.4 team is proud: they removed thousands of strcpy() from kernel and user-side software in OpenBSD 06:09:12 :-\ 06:09:43 People developed this shit for years.... now it's time to fix it. 06:09:58 url? 06:10:11 Why not to develop it in the "safe" way from the beginning? 06:10:25 wl: http://www.openbsd.org , obviously 06:12:04 maybe because they didn't think about it in the first place? we all make mistakes 06:13:19 cookin: I see another reason. C is the language (and UNIX/POSIX is the "philosophy") that encourages everybody to use strcpy() etc. 06:13:39 Hundreds of books about C/UNIX programming teach us to do so 06:13:46 It do? I always use strncpy 06:14:05 cookin: you're a good programmer then. :) 06:14:09 * rtty pats cookin 06:14:49 .) 06:14:50 :) 06:16:10 --- join: I440r (~x@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #osdev 06:21:50 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:22:21 --- join: wcstok (strtok_r@dialup-67.31.178.101.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) joined #osdev 06:24:42 --- join: wcstok_r (strtok_r@dialup-67.31.178.124.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) joined #osdev 06:25:12 cookin 06:25:18 debug my man 06:26:28 --- join: mrMister (~andri@ti122110a080-3909.bb.online.no) joined #osdev 06:31:09 --- quit: wcstok (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06:39:34 DOS debug? :) 06:39:54 * rtty has debug-like user interface in his kernel debugger 06:40:49 ? 06:41:03 debug: what "?" ? :) 06:41:43 b0rg 06:41:46 ah, yes. my nick is from that "debug". if that is what you were asking 06:41:56 exactly 06:50:41 --- nick: wcstok_r -> wcstok 07:04:18 --- join: wl_ (philipp@p50865DAB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 07:08:05 --- quit: gfafgawrg ("Fhtagn-Nagh Yog Sothoth") 07:21:03 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:22:36 --- quit: wl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:24:03 --- nick: wl_ -> wl 07:33:27 --- quit: TheJayFans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:50:44 --- quit: raiche (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:51:22 --- join: trans (xzgvis@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 07:51:33 --- join: EtherNet (~ethernet@host44.200-45-180.telecom.net.ar) joined #osdev 08:04:20 --- join: raiche (~f@h124n2fls34o1109.telia.com) joined #osdev 08:04:44 quack 08:04:53 moo 08:09:07 oink oink 08:13:25 --- join: e9o (~e9o@c-b84272d5.01-94-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #osdev 08:18:23 --- join: SIS-1650-01 (~sis@as11-2-1.rny.s.bonet.se) joined #osdev 08:20:48 --- join: jwesley_ (~jwesley@tkgeisel.com) joined #osdev 08:22:22 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:25:14 --- quit: masi ("Lost terminal") 08:28:35 --- quit: kdehl ("outtamyass") 08:29:42 --- nick: jwesley_ -> jwesley-work 08:40:17 --- quit: rtty ("Going home.") 08:45:05 baa 08:45:09 This channel isn't normal! 08:45:16 * raiche looks at mors and wcstok 08:45:21 ;-) 08:47:46 raiche: I know what you're going through... ;) 08:49:19 Rico: Hehe. I probably get use to it. 08:49:40 I have good hope in you 08:51:20 :-) 08:51:27 --- join: I440r (~x@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #osdev 08:53:29 Where the foo is mur? :> 08:53:49 he probably doesnt have internet connection yet 08:54:13 Me? 08:54:25 You! 08:54:27 and only you 08:54:29 who else 08:54:38 arent you ashamed of it now? 08:54:41 true. He didn't even have his computer there yet when I was there. 08:54:50 Heh ;-P 08:54:54 ;) 08:55:12 (I crashed on him for a few days when I was in Helsinki. Been wanting to thank him. :) 08:55:29 oh. must feel nice to meet online folks 08:55:45 anyone from Calif here? i might go there for a while 08:55:54 * Odin- commences a strafing run, designed to destroy Smari's pityful reference to existance outside of the Network. 08:56:02 :) 08:56:43 Odin-: Where do you think I've been for the last 10 days? And the 3 weeks or so before that? 08:57:11 Smari: The Horrible Lands of No Network! 08:57:24 heh 08:57:59 Smari: A fictional place, from which people emerge with illusions of something called "Real Life", which is often supposedly more important than the Network. 08:57:59 * mors feels ecstatic to start reading HGTG again 08:58:40 "Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun." 08:58:41 Speaking of "Real Life".. I've got to post those pics I took the other day. 08:58:50 yea. do so soon 08:58:56 mors: How many times have you read the lot? 08:59:15 heh, not enough number of times 08:59:21 :) 08:59:30 hmm, Smari. 08:59:34 mrMister! :) 08:59:53 :> 09:00:41 what monster spit you back out? 09:03:22 The monster of the infinately disgusting and unfathomably stupid former government monopoly on Icelandic telecommunications we know and hate as Landssíminn. They sent some freakyness up my line, frying my modem. It took them 10 days (constant nagging on my part) to send me a new modem. 09:04:00 they did that for free? 09:04:31 Actually, yes. 09:04:38 They also fried my old modem for free. 09:04:39 thats quite nice for all you know it couldve been a problem with your modem 09:04:52 oh. your old modem 09:04:53 It was a problem with my modem. They fried it. 09:05:31 Well.. I'm assuming I didn't get the same one back: I sent them an Alcatel Speedtouch Home, and got a Alcatel Speedtouch Pro back. 09:05:41 i wouldve charged you for the new modem, for my services in installing it and for charge you for not maintaining the old one i gave you 09:05:48 Nice upgrade. Free as well. But at quite an inconvenience for me. 09:06:29 I bought the old one for 23000 ikr. I install all equipment myself. You cooked the modem, thus I demanded a new one. Go figure. ;) 09:06:42 :) 09:08:01 if you were in US, you couldve prolly sued them giving all godamned reasons how miserable your life was in the last 10 days when they intentionally blasted your modem and all those financial losses you suffered 09:08:59 hehe 09:09:17 Financial losses? I suffered financial gain from this - the companies I house web pages for called me up. I charged them for the phone time, of course. 09:09:39 well, an american wouldnt probably think or say so 09:09:47 Of course. 09:09:58 But that's one of the many things that makes me not american. 09:10:40 Other things being for example the fact that I'm not an american. I've been there once though. Florida. It sucked immensely in retrospect, but it was fun while it lasted. Unlike Finland. See my web page for details. :) 09:10:59 url? 09:11:08 http://spm.bitcode.org/ :) 09:11:37 know any good open source xml parser? 09:11:48 mrMister: Expat. 09:12:03 No, wait.. you said "good". Aww well.. Expat is the best of a bad lot I suppose. 09:12:25 thx.. I was hoping you knew any better :) 09:13:00 you know, it does not take google long time to name any xml parser :> 09:14:58 --- quit: lynx ("Client Exiting") 09:14:59 mrMister: You know, it does not take you a long time to write an xml parser. :) 09:15:23 Possibly not a great one. But for your purposes acceptable. 09:17:54 Smari: I'm just trying to use DocBook.. xouvert.org 09:18:48 ohkay. 09:19:34 --- join: lynx (~lodsb@pD9544993.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 09:21:16 why is that icelandic names are so strange sounding 09:21:27 than any of the neighboring countries' 09:21:43 Vestmannaeyjar for example 09:21:45 neighboring countries? 09:22:03 well. sweden. finland or whichever 09:22:15 Vestmannaeyjar = Where I live. Vest = West, Mann = Men, Eyjar = Islands. Westmen = Irish people. 09:22:39 reykjavik itself is difficult to pronounce than helsinki or oslo or stockholm 09:22:40 :) 09:22:52 Vestmannaeyjar was the place where Ingólfur Árnason killed all of his fosterbrothers Irish slaves. 09:23:08 i know thats where you live. i just read your posts in that site 09:23:10 (who had previously killed Hjörleifur and escaped to the islands) 09:23:15 Indeed. :) 09:23:27 well, nice names ing lfur rnason and Hj rleifur 09:23:41 boy... but it twists my tongue out to hell 09:23:42 heh 09:23:58 Does any of it make any sense? "ingowlfurr" and "hjowrleyfurr" ;) 09:24:16 fur makes sense :) 09:24:23 hmm, Smari, why is not woz on your "Coffee Shop list"? :) 09:24:35 .. the post I mean.. does it make any sense? I was pretty incoherant when I wrote it. 09:24:40 I mean.. you've got jobs there but not woz 09:24:55 mrMister: Because, Jobs is a fucking lunatic. Woz is to normal. :) 09:25:09 i find it interesting to read any travelogue. and no, i didnt find anything incoherent 09:25:16 mrMister: Note that Jozef Von Tangerloo is on it. He's the most psychotic person I know. 09:26:41 hmm 09:26:42 So long and thanks for all the fish.. 09:26:51 laterz 09:27:51 so.. how do you like the idea of a new X server? 09:28:57 cya mors. 09:30:00 mrMister: Depends on what you mean. The X11 standard isn't really... up to date. The "Client-Server graphics" model is intresting.. but not really very realistic for modern home use. Slow, buggy.. 09:31:34 I'm talking about the X server it self which--as you say--is not up to date 09:32:20 no, I'm talking about the standard. XFree86 is rather up to date, if you're talking about it, in respect to X11R6. It's the X standard that's not good enough. 09:32:32 did you take a look at http://xouvert.org? 09:32:39 nope. 09:33:03 I'm searching for a specific strip of 8-bit theater to show a friend of mine. 09:33:21 I'll check it out after I've done that and read all the piled up e-mail over the last weeks. :) 09:34:51 ok.. xouvert is an X fork. 09:35:08 I like the name though. 09:35:44 or more like an X branch 09:36:24 Babylonian/Sumerian panthenon have interested me for quite some time. 09:36:26 "Xouvert is named after the ancient Babylonian goddess of open windows, wooden digging implements, and moonlight. A notorious ritual among the higher levels of Freemasonry has kept her memory alive until now. Xouvert, awake!" 09:37:49 Actually... Xouvert doesn't really fit into the panthenon because of a conflict with Shamash (the god of the moon, who was in fact the moon... afaik, Xouvert wasn't related to Shamash, so it doesn't make sense.) 09:38:20 lovely 09:48:59 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:51:36 --- join: trans (onpheq@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 09:59:30 --- quit: wcstok () 10:13:10 --- quit: e9o (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:29:52 Say, anybody alive? 10:30:06 Well.. undead people are alright too I guess. 10:30:19 anybody. 10:30:34 Ho. 10:30:43 yes? 10:30:57 Either of you know your way around the VESA VBE protected mode interface? 10:31:16 nope 10:31:18 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:31:21 yes 10:31:21 it dont work worth a crap 10:31:43 it is easy 10:32:36 Great. Now I don't know which of you to believe. 10:33:00 Mathis: 10:33:04 believe him 10:33:08 if he's helpful at least 10:33:24 Anyway, I've been prodding around with it.. and my primary problem is that I'm using GRUB, which sets up a GDT for me, leaving me absolutely no space to invent my own selectors that the VBE needs to initialize the protected mode thingies. 10:33:46 first thing you do after getting booted from grub is to set up your own gdt 10:33:51 Is there any way around it? Or any very simple and nice way to get VESA working? 10:34:12 geist: Okay. That sounds reasonable. I've just been avoiding it for quite a while. :) 10:34:26 it's super easy 10:34:28 (I've made a couple of GDTs.. it's annoying. :) 10:34:40 So I've heard. 10:35:08 But my experiance is that it's super easy to make the GDT, but it's super easy to get the CPU yelling at you while lgdt'ing. 10:35:14 I wrote virtual 8086 mode support, so that the kernel can execute 16bit realmode code, then I simply call the BIOS int 10:35:35 Mathis: ah, that's different. that's not the protected mode VESA stuff 10:35:39 jakk. 10:35:50 besides, it sounds rather appauling. 10:35:52 he wanted a workaround for the VESA protected mode interface 10:35:57 I wrote one... 10:36:09 someone fooled around with that on newos and we concluded that the protected mode interface is broken since no one uses it 10:36:14 Mathis: I wanted a workaround that's BIOS independant. :) 10:36:37 geist: It seems broken. None of the OS's I saw used it, and Bochs doesn't support it. 10:37:04 Smari: so the VESA protected mode interface is also excluded with your BIOS independancy 10:37:05 It "works" on my test machine, but only as far as sending me the wrong information. 10:37:20 right, it was literatally broken on most cardccs we tried 10:37:27 excluding BIOS means excluding VESA 10:37:36 Mathis: True that.. 10:37:49 like, the code all seemed to be derived from the same source, and it just didn't work and we traced it and found the single bug that was copied on most cards 10:37:53 Any other good and generic way to get a graphical console frame buffer? 10:37:54 Smari: if you want, you may use my v86m code 10:38:12 Mathis: Could I see it at least? 10:38:22 http://free.pages.at/mathis/ 10:38:26 Download section 10:38:40 k'. Thx. 10:41:10 write a SVGA driver :) 10:41:16 screw VESA 10:41:36 you've got all the example source you need with XFree86 10:41:39 ree! 10:41:41 * Rico <3 ree 10:41:45 VESA lfb is very useful 10:41:45 hey Rico :) 10:42:02 just do it SVGA way heh 10:45:25 lfb? 10:45:41 linear frame buffer 10:45:50 ahh. 10:45:52 yeah. 10:45:53 hi 10:46:27 create your own :) 10:47:03 I just need a frame buffer working on IA32 machines that supports some proper modes. At the very least 800x600 with 24 bit color. 10:47:31 :) 10:51:17 Okay.. my options: 1) Avoid VESA completely. 2) Stop using GRUB. 3) Learn to knit. 10:51:35 no, your option is just 3) 10:52:12 I don't get it. ;) 10:53:00 if you learn to knit.. I need a sweater soon :) 10:54:10 I'm not going to learn to knit. I might avoid GRUB though. Which would cause me a lot of trouble, but hey, it's probably worth it at some level. 10:54:51 heh, learn implementing your own GDT 10:55:21 or just use v86m to access 16-bit VESA BIOS 10:55:22 I don't use grub either 10:55:51 the only thing I really need that grub already does is finding out how much memory is available in the system. 10:56:04 I didn't use grub. Had my own bootloader that worked fine. But some design issues helped convince me to use grub. 10:56:15 I use the supposedly unreliable method of probing memory to do that rico hehe 11:01:41 I really need to get a new hobby, I'm bored to death at home... 11:02:06 osdev not keeping you? 11:02:53 computers in general don't do it for me anymore 11:03:14 Smari: so what is the problem here? 11:03:41 geist: I don't know. 11:05:47 do you use vmware? 11:05:59 Nope. 11:06:10 there lies the problem :) 11:06:11 it's pretty easy to program the SVGA device to do what you want 11:06:14 word 11:06:26 and you even get hardware acceleration pretty easily 11:06:44 url to docs? 11:06:49 not that i know of 11:06:55 True.. Programming for the VMware SVGA device is pretty simple.. Just read the README from the Xfree86 sources.. 11:06:57 not off the top of my head 11:07:06 right, what Slowcoder said 11:07:25 it's not a real device so it's much easier to program than normal ones 11:07:54 --- join: gfafgawrg (~gfafgawrg@213-35-251-83-dsl.kvm.estpak.ee) joined #osdev 11:07:55 And, http://www.newos.org/cgi-bin/fileViewer.cgi?FSPC=//depot/newos/kernel/addons/modules/arch/i386/console/vmware/console.c&REV=4 11:08:05 Not a 100% correct, but it'll get you going. 11:10:05 --- quit: wl ("Liebe ist eine Intimrasur. (American Pie)") 11:11:27 Just thought of something.. Programming the VMware SVGA requires you to have a functioning PCI-bus enumerator.. 11:11:40 that's true 11:11:46 though it's pretty much fixed in place 11:11:47 Since you need the value of the base-address register. 11:11:57 for an initial pass you can probably get away with hard coding that stuff 11:12:00 It is, but assumption is the mother of all fuckups. 11:13:03 ick, running outlook connected to exchange over a vpn link is pretty painful when you have to move a lot of data 11:13:12 I thought man was the mother of all fuckups :) 11:13:45 how painful? 11:14:02 s&m outlook? 11:14:10 "640KB should be enough for anyone" <- Assumption, and _major_ fuckup 11:14:20 --- join: I440r-wrk (~x@saturn.vcsd.com) joined #osdev 11:14:22 Slowcoder: I already have a functioning PCI-bus enumerator. I just haven't put it into the rewrite yet. 11:14:36 Smari: Excellent reason to do so then.. :) 11:14:40 hehe 11:14:51 so it is functional but not yet functional 11:14:53 Slowcoder: "640KB should be enough to anyone" is a quote <- Assumption, and a major fuckup 11:15:13 It's been fun guys.. Gotta go though. 11:15:16 ree: Yup. 11:15:17 bye slow 11:15:19 Isn't it "for" ? 11:15:21 Slowcoder: Cya. 11:15:29 that 'quote' pisses me off. No one has *ever* verified that bill ever said that 11:15:42 later Slowcoder 11:15:59 hehe, /. reader 11:16:21 I remember one or two posts ganging up on a guy because he referenced that quote 11:16:28 Darn. I feel like I just had the wind knocked out of me. 11:16:34 SLAP! 11:16:48 "#@^%@!^!! NOBODY KNOWS IF BILL SAID THAT!!! WHAAA!!!!" :) 11:17:04 well, bill has said himself that it was a quote taken out of context 11:17:07 then another brought up videos and then another person said those videos are fake.. 11:17:14 I'm sure it was 11:17:20 Here's something he _did_ say though.. In 1994.. "Well have infinite bandwidth in a decades time." 11:17:22 geist: Most quotes are. 11:17:25 it was more along the lines of 'the pc will never need more than that' because everyone assumed at the time that the pc had a limited lifetime 11:17:25 just like the one gore said 11:17:50 slowcoder! hey we still have a few months :) 11:17:55 Slowcoder: 9 years later: The width isn't infinite. The length is. ;) 11:18:01 so it was more like 'the pc will never need more than 640KB because we'll have a different architecture soon' 11:18:06 *signing off* 11:18:13 later Slowcoder 11:18:40 I gotta get ready for work 11:18:53 no you don't 11:18:59 yes, you should 11:19:05 don't listen to ree 11:19:12 he's... EVIL!!! 11:19:12 work? 11:19:14 People still do that? 11:19:38 heh 11:19:42 not here they don't 11:19:47 people that want money to spend, yes 11:19:58 I really need a job. 11:20:02 Be shut down geist, don't you remember? 11:20:07 * ree throws water on geist 11:20:09 people that need money to pay their bill work too. 11:20:15 wake up! 11:20:25 I wish I only had a single bill 11:20:32 I haven't worked at Be in over 2 years now 11:20:37 I even applied for a job as a cook in a restaurant. (I've done it before.. it sucks.. but theres money in it..) 11:20:37 doesn't matter to me 11:20:50 I was kidding 11:20:56 cook me some cookies 11:21:02 yeah, I'll be doing administration probably 11:21:05 yeahm I know 11:21:16 part time job 11:21:22 Rico: Come here then. 11:21:24 while I get the business going 11:21:25 anyway, later 11:21:29 bye 11:22:01 Smari: you pay the trip 11:22:05 bye geist 11:22:23 have fun, and what happened to that job interview for that test engineer? 11:23:26 Rico: I don't even have enough money to buy the rest of the school books I need. (Iceland = Capitalist paradise; we have to buy our own freakin' school books) 11:26:11 I have to do so too 11:26:24 damn. What country is that? 11:26:29 Ahh. .nl 11:26:31 Iceland has really hot chicks!!! 11:26:41 Indeed. 11:26:51 I still want to go there in the summer and party all weekend long 11:27:04 But not as hot as Finland. :) 11:27:11 it is light over there the whole weekend 11:27:36 well, from what I have seen, Iceland is best, then Finland 11:27:37 I know. I live here, remember. And actually, it's more like the whole summer than the whole weekend. 11:27:42 but I could be wrong 11:27:46 Rico: Then I recommend the 1-3 of august, in Vestmannaeyjar. 11:27:55 I prefered Finland, then Sweden, then Iceland. 11:29:06 those are all in the top 5 most welthy countries in the whole world, holland is in that top 5 too 11:29:13 it seems all those countries has hot chicks! 11:29:15 Countries I've been to and liked come like: Finland, the Netherlands, Ireland.. 11:29:17 I LOVE IT!!! 11:29:33 but now it's time for some tv 11:29:34 bye 11:29:39 tv? 11:29:46 people still watch those things? 11:29:54 * Smari is sure he has one around here somewhere. 11:30:06 I'm going to find it and connect it. Be back later. 11:45:49 --- join: MoneyCat (fool@208.27.0.79) joined #osdev 11:46:25 hey Money 11:46:38 --- quit: idle (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:59:34 --- join: trans (zstwqv@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 12:05:42 *nix kernels don't have floating point operations in them? 12:05:54 I assume they don't use SIMD either? 12:09:50 --- nick: MoneyCat -> idle 12:09:58 gargh 12:10:47 a += b++ + ++c; 12:18:47 --- join: Kincaid` (kincaid@pD9E7E28E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 12:20:55 --- join: dms (~dms@d-ri1-002.globalnet.hr) joined #osdev 12:34:35 --- quit: I440r-wrk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:36:42 --- quit: Kincaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:44:45 -1 12:50:40 --- part: dms left #osdev 13:06:10 --- join: LordArnar (~LordArnar@ti122110a080-3909.bb.online.no) joined #osdev 13:08:53 --- join: Matzon (Mazon@0x50a1b672.unknown.tele.dk) joined #osdev 13:11:02 --- join: e9o (~e9o@c-b84272d5.01-94-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined #osdev 13:15:25 --- join: kdehl (~madman@h127n1fls33o877.telia.com) joined #osdev 13:15:51 hey kdehl 13:22:12 --- join: wcstok (strtok_r@dialup-67.31.178.58.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) joined #osdev 13:23:56 Hi ree. 13:27:56 --- quit: Mathis ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 13:29:22 --- join: gianluca (glguida@ppp-196-134.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 13:37:23 --- join: wossname (wossname@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp80851.qc.sympatico.ca) joined #osdev 13:44:30 --- join: Kincaid (kincaid@pD9E7F5CC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 13:45:23 --- join: file[desk] (~file@mctn1-7176.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 13:52:09 --- join: Zenton (~vicente@8.Red-80-34-35.pooles.rima-tde.net) joined #osdev 13:55:30 --- quit: SIS-1650-01 (Remote closed the connection) 14:00:12 --- join: falun (~petrusss@h117n2fls31o862.telia.com) joined #osdev 14:02:25 --- quit: Kincaid` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:03:27 --- nick: falun -> petrusss 14:19:55 --- quit: Matzon () 14:20:56 --- quit: Robert ("tapir OK.") 14:21:18 --- join: Robert (~snofs@h31n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #osdev 14:34:41 --- quit: e9o () 14:37:15 --- join: Mathis (Mathis@pD9EAB6E3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 14:37:27 hi 14:39:58 --- join: axeld (~axeld@p50829EC4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 14:42:08 hei mathis 14:43:52 seems I cant get my 0modem connection working... 14:44:51 --- join: jsr (www@du-15-47.ppp.telenordia.se) joined #osdev 14:45:09 ah 14:45:19 COM ports are okay 14:45:29 tested with serial mouse 14:45:37 connection settings okay 14:45:45 2400,8,n,1 14:46:12 but nothing happens when typing into the terminal 14:49:59 the cable itself is also okay 14:52:42 --- quit: mrMister ("gone") 14:54:39 --- quit: kdehl ("Over and out!") 14:57:24 --- join: air (~brand@12-210-166-242.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 14:57:28 --- quit: air (Client Quit) 14:58:41 hmm? 15:04:46 not 'hmm' 15:04:55 it simply doesnt work 15:05:45 thats a shame 15:08:05 I need it to develop my tool 15:09:43 • • EXPECT it to FAIL when someone's HeALTh or PROpeRTy is at RISktm • • 15:10:09 since noone's health or property is at risk, it should work, but it doesnt... 15:20:04 --- quit: file[desk] () 15:21:02 --- quit: file[laptop] () 15:22:04 --- join: file[wifi] (~file@mctn1-7176.nb.aliant.net) joined #osdev 15:24:50 --- quit: wossname ("grits for brekkie") 15:28:09 --- quit: jsr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:32:52 --- quit: gfafgawrg ("Fhtagn-Nagh Yog Sothoth") 15:34:04 well, under VMware it works... 15:35:31 VMware will make anything work 15:35:40 except real hardware... 15:37:43 --- quit: gianluca ("Client Exiting") 15:43:10 --- quit: LordArnar ("Client exiting") 15:50:59 --- quit: wcstok (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:51:42 --- join: gianluca (glguida@ppp-196-134.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 15:56:00 --- quit: gianluca (Remote closed the connection) 16:00:33 --- join: gianluca (glguida@ppp-196-134.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 16:09:24 --- join: SLACKo (~foo@62.114.149.161) joined #osdev 16:12:32 --- quit: petrusss () 16:14:58 --- join: petrusss (~petrusss@h117n2fls31o862.telia.com) joined #osdev 16:23:40 gtg, sleep required 16:23:54 --- quit: Mathis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:25:28 --- quit: idle ("Sic Sempere Tyrannis!") 16:26:01 --- quit: gianluca (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:26:11 --- join: glguida_ (glguida@ppp-196-134.28-151.libero.it) joined #osdev 16:27:52 * debug uploads some kernel stuff to his project page 16:28:10 it is amazing how long one can delay school tasks 16:41:10 hehe 16:41:20 --- quit: Smari (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:53:36 --- join: Kincaid` (kincaid@pD9E7E6AA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 17:08:41 --- nick: Zenton -> Zenton_ 17:11:36 --- quit: Kincaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:11:53 --- quit: glguida_ ("Client Exiting") 17:11:58 --- join: Kincaid (kincaid@pD9E7EEF9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #osdev 17:25:35 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:26:48 --- quit: Kincaid` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:37:10 --- join: I440r (~I440r@sdn-ap-005txhousP0394.dialsprint.net) joined #osdev 17:39:18 --- join: cuebol (moo@adsl-67-121-5-96.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net) joined #osdev 17:47:46 debug: 6 years and counting.. (Delaying school-work that is) 17:48:24 hehe 17:50:13 .. 17:50:32 Shit.. I wonder what I was smoking last night.. My code is riddled with brain-farts.. 17:52:54 for(i=0;i<=256;i++) <- Classic brain-fart 17:55:10 x 17:55:58 cookin 17:57:01 --- join: newbs (~tumbler@ts1-illavl84.shawneelink.net) joined #osdev 17:57:42 * debug suddenly does a 'make build' 17:57:48 hm 17:58:05 it's 03 am again, and I'm almost ready to start studying 17:58:10 this reminds me of last night 17:59:04 here, too 17:59:05 nite 17:59:20 debug: 3am is not time to study.. Tell your teacher you had more important things to do.. If you want to, I'll write your teacher a note. :) 18:03:01 I don't think he cares 18:08:37 --- quit: SLACKo ("[x]chat") 18:32:05 --- join: idle (fool@208.27.1.16) joined #osdev 18:32:10 gargoyle 18:33:39 gaylord? 18:34:09 grasp 18:34:20 --- join: air (~brand@12-210-166-242.client.attbi.com) joined #osdev 18:55:09 --- join: trans (hyhaoz@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 19:29:29 --- quit: axeld ("Vision[0.9.7-0508]: i've been blurred!") 19:37:03 --- quit: CLxyz () 19:37:52 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:42:40 --- join: CLxyz (CLxyz@00-01-03-d2-a4-07.bconnected.net) joined #osdev 20:05:15 --- quit: newbs (Client Quit) 20:41:32 --- join: topside (~topside@67.33.200.92) joined #osdev 20:52:45 --- quit: krux ("Client Exiting") 20:55:21 --- join: trans (gqbsqb@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 21:10:27 --- quit: I440r ("night night!") 21:25:40 --- quit: idle (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:28:48 --- quit: trans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:51:35 --- join: krux (~krux@66.14.118.85) joined #osdev 21:51:43 --- quit: krux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:52:16 --- join: krux (~krux@66.14.118.85) joined #osdev 22:13:34 --- quit: cuebol () 22:48:38 --- join: mur (~mur@h31n2fls31o965.telia.com) joined #osdev 22:48:41 wheeee 22:48:48 hello 22:49:08 murrr , hi sweets :) 22:49:19 * mur thanks robert for giving irc shell so i can irc while listening how to change background or screensaver in macos ;P 22:49:52 are you trying to show off that you have a Mac? 22:49:55 :D 22:50:09 school computer 22:50:15 aha 22:50:16 we have mostly macs here in uiah 22:50:22 art uni anyways 22:50:39 what are irssi bindings for changing channel? 22:50:56 Robert! :) 22:55:30 --- join: trans (ixzbgo@fatwire-201-147.uniserve.ca) joined #osdev 22:56:16 hello trans 22:59:02 good. it's ctrl-n 23:00:39 gmorning world 23:00:47 hey mr debug 23:01:03 hui mors 23:01:04 -u 23:01:23 * debug prepares a cup of physical coffee 23:02:53 hello debug 23:03:16 prepare -u -t phys coffee 23:03:17 --- quit: petrusss () 23:03:27 --- join: petrusss (~petrusss@h117n2fls31o862.telia.com) joined #osdev 23:03:41 gaaaaah 23:03:52 the construction workers are really making life not worth living here 23:04:04 * debug needs to go off-line soon to preserve harddisk life 23:04:08 :P 23:04:12 :) 23:04:29 don't worry, it's just between 07 and 16 every day 23:04:51 great 23:06:21 aw, we will miss you debug :) 23:06:29 cya 23:06:45 have a nice day :) 23:07:56 --- quit: debug ("Client Exiting") 23:13:14 what's up mors? 23:13:51 someone was missing you 23:14:05 hmm? 23:14:43 umm. it was smari. he missed all those nights you both spend together in finland 23:14:44 :D 23:14:53 heh 23:17:06 coding now? 23:18:07 hm. was looking at rtlinux earlier. tryin to get some tcp/ip stack on it 23:18:17 but now.. waiting for 'zen of code optimization' 23:18:25 michael abrash , one of the quake guys 23:18:31 you? 23:18:43 ircing and trying to invent someting to do 23:18:52 :) 23:21:09 .. with bad luck 23:21:34 what happened to your luck 23:21:43 hmmm 23:21:50 good question 23:21:51 :) 23:22:55 testing safari 23:23:35 perhaps i coudl rate http://www.sxc.hu/ 's pictures 23:23:36 instead 23:59:59 --- log: ended osdev/03.09.08