00:41:39 <_ruiner_> hiya nate 00:42:08 hy. 00:42:36 any ideas? 00:43:04 <_ruiner_> nope 00:43:07 <_ruiner_> sorry I'm so late 00:43:13 <_ruiner_> my friend was over playing brood war 00:43:48 n/p 00:44:24 I was discussing with rares a little bit. 00:44:47 Do you think we should use current IRC servers for the voice IRC? 00:45:27 <_ruiner_> what did he come up with? 00:45:41 hmm... not much. 00:45:52 <_ruiner_> I can't think of any reason to use anything else 00:46:24 I think we were talking about the voice print thing, and the text will come with a compressed derivation of the standard voice print of a user. 00:47:01 I'll send you a log if you want, but there isn't much on it. 00:47:10 <_ruiner_> I'm actually not too keen on that idea 00:47:40 what would you suggest. 00:47:45 I said have a... 00:48:03 config file for each user that has tones, slur rate, etc... 00:48:57 <_ruiner_> forget about the net apps completely for now and concentrate on getting it to recognize voices (for distinguishing for passwords) and to actually get it to accept and know how to carry out commands 00:49:13 yeah, I guess. 00:49:49 How do you think the interface should be? I'm hoping it will have a pipe... 00:50:05 or something, and it will just send text through it. 00:50:12 <_ruiner_> what part of the interface? 00:50:23 or the program could directly interface the wav file. 00:50:31 <_ruiner_> the gui? the voice interface? the text interface? 00:50:41 how it is interfaced to other programs. 00:51:17 darn, I keep drifting away from voice reconizeing part. 00:51:44 what should we discuss for that part? how it would reconize? 00:52:05 <_ruiner_> the voice part would require its own api 00:52:28 yeah, that's what I was saying above with the interface. 00:55:52 any ideas? 00:56:29 hello? 00:56:50 <_ruiner_> I would assume either its converted to text as it comes in or..... 00:56:55 <_ruiner_> brb....spaghetti is done 00:58:15 hmm... I love spaghetti. Sometime with sauce, sometime with parmesan cheese and olvie oil. Other times fettuchine alfredo. :-) 00:58:24 <_ruiner_> back 00:59:24 <_ruiner_> or words could be broken down into individual sounds and then passed along whatever program needs it 00:59:25 <_ruiner_> or.... 01:00:00 I had pasta 2 time yesterday, and 2 time today :-) 01:00:02 <_ruiner_> is in something like copy or move, it would recognize it right away 01:00:12 ? 01:00:28 <_ruiner_> ? 01:00:45 <_ruiner_> I meant as 01:01:39 as? 01:01:54 <_ruiner_> as in something like copy or move, it would recognize it right away 01:02:18 recognize what? 01:02:23 <_ruiner_> so internally it wouldn't have to convert it to text or parse out consonants and vowels 01:02:40 <_ruiner_> voice commands 01:02:52 and what do you mean like copy or move? 01:03:02 <_ruiner_> like for file manipulation 01:03:29 and how does copy reconize anything? 01:03:39 <_ruiner_> what are you talking about? 01:04:08 you had said "like copy or move, it would recognize it right away" 01:04:21 <_ruiner_> the computer would recognize those commands right away 01:04:35 it is just running a program. 01:04:47 a voice differses. 01:05:04 when you talk, you don't say it the exact same way twice. 01:05:14 <_ruiner_> *sigh* 01:05:22 <_ruiner_> you're missing what I'm saying completely 01:05:48 <_ruiner_> I'm talking about how the command interpreter would work 01:06:01 as in the parser in a shell? 01:06:39 <_ruiner_> thats one way to do it... 01:08:05 I think a shell splits it up.. but again, there is derivation, that's why a voice reconization program can't get it right every time 01:08:56 <_ruiner_> the command interpreter is the only thing that makes this different from using your basic gui or command prompt based system 01:09:11 <_ruiner_> we're just adding a new way to input commands 01:09:20 your saying just look for a sound pattern, correct? 01:09:23 <_ruiner_> true we're going to a lower level than just making an app.... 01:09:27 <_ruiner_> yes 01:10:03 <_ruiner_> I see 3 ways commands can be dealt with 01:10:10 I beleive that is what a voice reconization system does, but there is derivation, plus different ways to say things... 01:10:26 <_ruiner_> I'm going to suggest using all three and having them all return a result and having the computer go by the best match it can find 01:10:39 hmmm... maybe. 01:13:08 <_ruiner_> I also think that it should only follow commands issued to it by whoever the person is who logged on 01:14:06 I'm not sure how fast it would be on a multiuser enviroment. 01:14:13 <_ruiner_> and we shouldn't do anything for voice that can't be done via a gui or command prompt, since people do have laryngitis sometimes or if they're a teenager voice changes 01:14:59 <_ruiner_> in what way? 01:15:03 like protection of the file system, right? 01:15:22 well.. a bunch of people doing the voice thing... 01:15:43 could be slow, like if you had 20 MP3 players going. 01:17:09 <_ruiner_> I don't really think it would be.... 01:17:27 <_ruiner_> why would anybody have 20 mp3 players going? 01:17:49 <_ruiner_> it'd just be a comparision of output and input to filter out the music anyways 01:18:28 <_ruiner_> this won't be distributed computing so I don't see what relevance 20 mp3 players has 01:18:32 well... like if you had 20 people using the voice interface. 01:18:52 what do you mean by "and we shouldn't do anything for voice that can't be done via a gui or command prompt"? 01:19:07 protection? or they want another interface? 01:19:22 <_ruiner_> passwords, issuing commands 01:19:34 <_ruiner_> another interface 01:20:19 yeah, why would we have special commands that they couldn't do in a gui or console anyway? 01:20:39 <_ruiner_> had to mention it, never know what you guys are going to come up with 01:20:59 <_ruiner_> people do stupid stuff like that sometimes 01:21:00 _ruiner_ looks in the general direction of redmond 01:22:16 LOL 01:22:53 like what has microsoft done though? 01:22:53 <_ruiner_> I'm serious, you play around with windows enough and you get all kinds of you can't do this from here bullshit 01:23:06 like what? 01:23:17 <_ruiner_> mess around in your multimedia part of your control panels 01:23:39 and? 01:23:42 <_ruiner_> you can select a driver but you can't add or remove one from there, you have to go to system 01:23:48 <_ruiner_> just all kinds of that kind of crap 01:23:53 ok. 01:24:06 <_ruiner_> I remember something about networking like that too.... 01:25:08 what I hate is when... 01:25:21 I don't change the networking settings... 01:25:28 but I click ok... 01:25:38 and it wants me to put in the windows cd 01:25:46 pisses me off big time. 01:25:47 <_ruiner_> yeah 01:25:50 <_ruiner_> that pisses me off too 01:26:06 although the work around is to enter c:\windows\system 01:26:13 and it will copy on to itself. 01:28:37 u still there? 01:28:40 <_ruiner_> I'm thinking I won't be doing much as far as this goes.... 01:29:06 <_ruiner_> I mean, I'll help with ideas and talk out solutions and stuff with you guys, but I doubt I'm going to actually do any coding 01:29:11 <_ruiner_> possible though 01:29:50 same with me. 01:30:05 but, hey, I need something to put on a resume :-) 01:30:32 <_ruiner_> true... 01:30:37 besides, he wanted to include us in it, so I think we'll get some credit, even if we don't code much. 01:31:12 coding this thing seems like it is going to be pretty hard. 01:31:20 <_ruiner_> I've got my own os to do 01:31:41 <_ruiner_> I don't think it'll be all that hard 01:32:44 maybe... how is your os going to be structed? 01:33:08 have you figued out a file systems, scheduling technique, and memory management. 01:33:23 <_ruiner_> for mine? 01:33:28 (substitue that '.' for a '?') 01:33:30 yeah. 01:35:02 <_ruiner_> I'm not quite sure yet....I think I may go with a combination monolithic/micro style of kernel 01:35:16 cool. 01:35:44 <_ruiner_> monolithic if I have everything written for their hardware, microkernel if they wind up having to use windows/dos/linux drivers 01:36:43 <_ruiner_> memory management I was talking about with air last night 01:36:57 you should probebly go out and get a book like "Operating Systems: design and implementation", so you will study some problems that might arize. 01:37:01 <_ruiner_> ummm....file system, probably a database style 01:37:07 what'd air say? 01:38:36 <_ruiner_> I suggested linked lists 01:38:49 <_ruiner_> he says a single 01:38:50 <_ruiner_> list 01:39:12 you mean singley linked listed, instead of double, right? 01:39:23 <_ruiner_> right 01:39:30 why double? 01:39:45 <_ruiner_> you mean why single? 01:40:00 why use double? 01:41:04 <_ruiner_> oh....I was going to break memory up into different sizes 01:41:27 <_ruiner_> it was potentially wasteful, but (at least I thought) had the promise of being a bit faster 01:41:43 whatever 01:42:33 <_ruiner_> ok.... 01:43:03 <_ruiner_> you asked.... 01:43:15 well... nevermind then. 01:43:20 <_ruiner_> it sounded better when it was explained to me 01:43:50 what are you refering to? 01:44:14 <_ruiner_> nevermind 01:44:45 are you saying 'nevermind' or are you refering to me saying 'nevermind'? 01:45:00 <_ruiner_> I'm saying nevermind 01:45:28 ok. 01:45:35 nevermind then. :-) 01:48:42 <_ruiner_> you going to write your own? 01:49:07 os? maybe, after I study others. 01:49:26 I'll make a cross between MSWindows and Linux. 01:49:31 <_ruiner_> ack! 01:49:32 <_ruiner_> nooooo 01:49:43 <_ruiner_> I strongly suggest you stay away from other os's 01:49:50 <_ruiner_> it will only taint your ideas 01:50:39 I mean it is a gui and easy to use like windows (for newbies at least), and stable like linux. 01:54:26 _ruiner_ doesn't think the windows gui is all that easy, just what people are used to 01:54:36 <_ruiner_> at least now 01:55:03 <_ruiner_> and those who used dos/win3.x were smart enough to figure it out, whereas the jonny come lately's aren't 01:55:06 I agreee... But people will by it (maybe). 01:55:27 s/by/buy 01:55:59 <_ruiner_> if you emulate windows's gui too closely it'll really fsck people up when something is different 01:56:06 <_ruiner_> so you may as well just create your own 01:56:39 well... it will install fairly easilt a least. 01:56:45 what is the goal of your os? 01:57:41 <_ruiner_> games, multimedia 01:57:43 <_ruiner_> most likely 01:58:38 who will it be targeted at? (Newbies, Linux hackers, system adminstators, gamers, network servers, etc...) 02:01:24 <_ruiner_> programmers, gamers, artists, musicians 02:02:15 I'm writing a shell for minix right now, it's one of the excercises in the book. 02:02:50 <_ruiner_> ah.... 02:04:10 I don't hope to use it, just make it and move on. 02:04:19 <_ruiner_> heh.... 02:04:36 <_ruiner_> this sounds like a pretty sweet book 02:04:40 I have to find out where the system calls are kept (which header and lib). 02:04:42 yes. 02:05:00 boot proccess... processes, memory manegment. 02:05:07 file systems... 02:05:21 and it is cool because it first explains different techniques. 02:05:35 and then it refers to how it is implemented in minix... 02:05:57 and has the source code the book refereres to (about 500 pages) in the back of the book. 02:06:10 and goes (almost line by line) on how it is implemented. 02:06:27 <_ruiner_> heh 02:06:30 and it also has a working minix on the cd rom so you can install it on a computer. 02:06:32 <_ruiner_> how old is it? 02:06:58 well... first edition 1987, then the second edition (which is what I have) is 1997 02:07:12 <_ruiner_> cool 02:07:33 get the second, because minix is better (32-bin PMode) and it is POSIX complaient. 02:11:58 so, do you have any books on OSDev? 02:13:01 <_ruiner_> nope 02:13:04 <_ruiner_> well....not really 02:13:29 <_ruiner_> I have one on the intel microprocessors that basically talks you through it 02:15:05 [QUIT] nate37 quit: Ping timeout for nate37[ppp-206-117-27-141.dialup.pcmagic.net] 02:20:10 nate37 joined #osdev 02:20:16 <_ruiner_> wb 02:20:19 sorry disconnect. 02:20:34 I haven't had that happen in awhile. 02:20:50 had to reboot (windows god-damnit). 02:21:01 <_ruiner_> lol 02:21:20 last thing I said was about getting the book. 02:21:50 <_ruiner_> I have one on the intel microprocessors that basically talks you through it 02:22:37 cool. what's it called? 02:24:09 <_ruiner_> the advanced intel microprocessors 02:24:12 <_ruiner_> go figure, eh? 02:24:32 LOL 02:24:44 um... any good web sites? 02:25:33 <_ruiner_> hmmmmm......no 02:25:34 <_ruiner_> lol 02:26:54 LOL? what'd I say??!?! 02:27:41 <_ruiner_> I said no 02:29:22 nevermind. 02:29:43 the only one I have found is the "Art of Assembly" 02:29:51 <_ruiner_> good resource 02:30:05 <_ruiner_> I also suggest newsgroups 02:30:26 yesh. 02:32:55 what types of programming projects have you done? 02:35:00 u there? 02:35:28 <_ruiner_> still here 02:35:32 <_ruiner_> nothing outside of school 02:35:39 <_ruiner_> at least, not finished outside of school 02:35:47 what have you done in school then? 02:37:35 ? 02:37:56 sucka joined #osdev 02:38:03 heh.... 02:38:18 hello. 02:38:41 ruiner? 02:38:51 [QUIT] _ruiner_ quit: Ping timeout for _ruiner_[ppp364.wi.centurytel.net] 02:38:53 sucka = _ruiner_, correct? 02:39:00 yep 02:39:05 [NICK] sucka changed nick to: _ruiner_ 02:39:11 thought so by the ip addess. 02:39:13 d/c? 02:39:14 <_ruiner_> was just about to do a recover when it got dropped 02:39:19 <_ruiner_> windows froze 02:39:25 you in windows to? 02:39:29 <_ruiner_> yeah 02:40:26 what version, 98 SE? 02:40:26 <_ruiner_> 95 02:40:26 <_ruiner_> I refuse to touch 98 02:40:27 when I bought my computer I got Windows 98 SE.. 02:40:38 because I only had a upgrade of Windows 95... 02:40:58 and the windows 98s that my dad had the boot disks were bad when we got them. 02:41:27 soo.... how was you spagetti :-) 02:41:35 <_ruiner_> I got a bad win95 boot disk 02:41:46 <_ruiner_> first they didn't include them at all 02:41:59 <_ruiner_> then I called up and they sent me a zip of what should be on it 02:42:15 <_ruiner_> when I did that the command com was corrupt or something 02:43:10 <_ruiner_> hmmmm....change your nick to _ruiner_ willya? 02:43:21 <_ruiner_> I wanna see if it just makes you take a new nick or boots you off 02:43:24 [NICK] _ruiner_ changed nick to: ljg 02:43:57 k 02:44:05 [NICK] nate37 changed nick to: _ruiner_ 02:44:07 [QUIT] _ruiner_ quit: Killed (NickServ (This nick is reserved by another user)) 02:44:30 nate37 joined #osdev 02:44:36 why did it do that??? 02:44:59 cuz I tried a recover 02:44:59 I GOT BOOTED >-| 02:45:09 what's that? 02:45:09 try to change your name to _ruiner_, heh 02:45:19 thats pretty swank 02:45:25 what's a recover? 02:45:31 is your name registerd? 02:45:35 no. 02:45:45 how do I register it? 02:45:46 type /msg nickserv help 02:46:03 nothing happend 02:46:07 [NICK] ljg changed nick to: _ruiner_ 02:46:30 how do I register it? 02:46:41 _ruiner_ left #osdev 02:46:47 _ruiner_ joined #osdev 02:46:47 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o _ruiner_ 02:47:01 <_ruiner_> what chat client are you using? 02:47:10 MS Chat :-( 02:47:20 how did you become host? 02:47:29 <_ruiner_> I'm an osdev operator 02:47:37 <_ruiner_> why do you think I hang out here? ;-p 02:47:37 cool. 02:48:09 getting paid or something? :>) 02:48:19 <_ruiner_> type /msg nickserv register 02:48:35 <_ruiner_> then type /msg nickserv identify 02:48:43 <_ruiner_> I suggest using mirc 02:49:04 Nothing happened. 02:49:36 oh, it is in a whisper box. 02:50:13 I'm going to download mirc. 02:50:39 <_ruiner_> yeah 02:51:22 Do I have to register everytime I log in? 02:51:30 <_ruiner_> nope, just identify 02:51:31 I mena identify. 02:51:36 or what? 02:51:41 <_ruiner_> and thats only if you want to 02:51:49 <_ruiner_> like I don't get ops in here if I don't identify 02:51:56 will it kick me off? 02:51:59 <_ruiner_> you'll notice I haven't been identified in here much 02:52:00 <_ruiner_> nope 02:52:12 <_ruiner_> only if somebody else knows your password and decides they want to use your name 02:52:34 ? I didn't know your password. 02:53:11 <_ruiner_> I did 02:53:21 ? 02:53:38 <_ruiner_> I wanted to use my name, you had it, I recovered it 02:53:39 why won't it kick me off? It didn't know I was the real one. 02:53:46 oh. 02:53:51 how do I recover? 02:54:19 <_ruiner_> "/msg nickserv recover ? 02:54:28 oh, thanks. 02:54:28 <_ruiner_> that ? is supposed to be " 02:54:39 ? 02:54:40 <_ruiner_> thats what I did, so you got booted 02:54:45 oh 02:54:46 <_ruiner_> I thought it might just prompt you for a new name though 02:55:03 it is bolded in MSChat it looked like a big, square dot. 02:55:14 only in the whisper box. 02:55:49 hey... for MIrc, does it stop working after a period? 02:56:32 ? 02:56:54 <_ruiner_> you mean does it auto disconnect? 02:57:11 know, I mean if I don't register. 02:57:39 <_ruiner_> no 02:57:51 any nag screens? 02:57:51 <_ruiner_> not the version I have anyways 02:57:57 <_ruiner_> nag screens occasionally 02:58:06 what version? 02:58:37 I'm dowloading 5.7 02:59:17 5.4 02:59:23 your using 5.4 02:59:31 <_ruiner_> yeah 02:59:45 magic ;-) 03:01:01 what privaleges do I get if I'm registered? 03:01:08 (if any) 03:02:04 <_ruiner_> you can be an op of a chat room 03:02:11 <_ruiner_> (one that you didn't create) 03:02:17 how? 03:02:20 [MODE] _ruiner_ set mode: +o nate37 03:02:30 <_ruiner_> or I could just do that every time I see you.... 03:02:57 [MODE] _ruiner_ set mode: -o nate37 03:03:09 ) 03:03:25 how though? 03:03:47 <_ruiner_> are you registered? 03:03:58 yes 03:04:09 I'm about to install mIRC too. 03:04:44 let's see if it works... 03:04:57 <_ruiner_> leave osdev and come back 03:05:12 ok.. brb 03:05:16 nate37 left #osdev 03:06:17 nate37 joined #osdev 03:06:20 hey 03:06:26 <_ruiner_> did you identify before you came back? 03:06:48 about to. 03:06:54 <_ruiner_> gotta do it before you come in 03:07:06 ok. 03:07:11 identifyed 03:07:42 <_ruiner_> rejoin osdev 03:07:59 k 03:08:01 nate37 left #osdev 03:08:08 nate37 joined #osdev 03:08:09 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o nate37 03:08:12 cool. 03:08:24 <_ruiner_> thats how.... 03:08:28 what can I do as OP? 03:08:40 <_ruiner_> I'm gonna remove you though, until you become more of a regular at least 03:08:52 >-( 03:09:01 your not serious, right? 03:09:51 <_ruiner_> yep 03:09:57 [MODE] _ruiner_ set mode: -o nate37 03:10:05 <_ruiner_> it was just to show you how its done 03:10:16 ok. 03:10:31 thanks anyway. 03:10:54 <_ruiner_> I'll readd you as you become a regular 03:10:56 <_ruiner_> no worries 03:11:27 k. 03:11:33 <_ruiner_> and if we start a channel about our project you will, of course, have ops.... 03:11:55 <_ruiner_> you can kick, ban, op, deop etc.... 03:11:57 cool... I'm used to MS Chat, so I haven't used IRC commands much. 03:12:02 cool. 03:12:18 how do I create a room anyway (I won't though, not yet)? 03:12:54 <_ruiner_> just join a non existant room 03:13:10 <_ruiner_> or if you want it registered you'll have to deal with chanserv 03:13:51 cool, I see it now. 03:13:58 is there a list of servers? 03:14:15 (like a list of commands) 03:14:43 <_ruiner_> how do you mean? 03:15:05 like /msg nickserv help shows a list of commands, is there a list of servs? 03:15:28 <_ruiner_> servers? no 03:15:41 oh well. 03:15:53 so... 03:16:45 How well do you think the projects going to go? 03:16:50 <_ruiner_> theres a list of servers on the mirc page I think.... 03:17:08 <_ruiner_> I dunno....it probably won't amount to much 03:17:22 what does slap! do in mIRC? 03:17:29 <_ruiner_> like I said I'm not going to be too involved in implementing it, nor are you, so its just rares coding 03:17:37 <_ruiner_> try it 03:17:38 <_ruiner_> heh 03:17:52 yeah, I think he metioned lar1 03:17:55 <_ruiner_> and I think he'll get pretty damned sick of working on it himself 03:18:00 <_ruiner_> I dunno if lar is gonna get involved 03:18:15 <_ruiner_> he's got his own os to write 03:18:22 yeah. well.. we'll see. 03:18:33 what happends 03:18:40 couldn't hurt to try I guess. 03:18:45 <_ruiner_> nope 03:19:05 <_ruiner_> if I really start hitting the code hard I suppose I could work on maybe 5 projects at once.... 03:19:21 good luck :-p 03:19:25 <_ruiner_> heh 03:19:33 what time is it there? 03:19:37 <_ruiner_> my job doesn't require me to work very hard, I could sit and code all day 03:19:42 <_ruiner_> almost 5:30 03:20:02 where do you work? 03:20:36 <_ruiner_> a gaming/[computer retail/repair place] 03:20:54 cool. small place or large? 03:20:59 <_ruiner_> small 03:21:12 cool 03:21:58 <_ruiner_> anyhow, I think I'm gonna get going....I'll see you later 03:22:06 it's only 3:21 am here. bye. 03:22:11 I should leave to. 03:22:18 [QUIT] _ruiner_ quit: destroy what destroys you 03:22:30 [QUIT] nate37 quit: Leaving 05:53:38 AlonzoTG joined #osdev 06:01:48 [QUIT] AlonzoTG quit: Have Nice Day :) 06:14:44 AlonzoTG joined #osdev 07:35:31 [QUIT] AlonzoTG quit: Have Nice Day :) 07:46:45 rares joined #osdev 08:03:21 AlonzoTG joined #osdev 08:26:45 rares left #OSDev 10:30:28 rares joined #osdev 10:41:00 rares left #OSDev 11:37:23 AlonzoTG joined #osdev 11:57:15 [QUIT] AlonzoTG quit: Have Nice Day :) 12:10:10 rares joined #osdev 12:20:04 [QUIT] rares quit: Ping timeout for rares[wtrb-sh9-port63.snet.net] 12:24:48 _ruiner_ joined #osdev 12:25:00 [QUIT] _ruiner_ quit: Leaving 12:44:41 rares joined #osdev 12:51:31 rares left #OSDev 13:02:59 hcf joined #osdev 13:02:59 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o hcf 13:17:02 remote1 joined #osdev 13:17:12 Hi brianna 13:17:19 Hello hcf 13:17:23 hello abi 13:17:24 hello, remote1 13:20:35 [NICK] remote1 changed nick to: Euler 13:32:50 [QUIT] Euler quit: [x]chat 14:20:42 [QUIT] abi quit: Ping timeout for abi[bespin.dhs.org] 14:25:48 abi joined #osdev 18:57:05 Brianna joined #osdev 19:03:28 hcf joined #osdev 19:03:28 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o hcf 19:09:21 Brianna joined #osdev 19:09:59 lar1 joined #osdev 19:24:20 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o lar1 19:25:02 [MODE] lar1 set mode: -o lar1 20:41:43 Brianna joined #osdev 20:41:58 Hmm 20:41:58 Bri went down 20:41:58 but 20:41:58 she says she was still up 20:44:58 nice bot u'v got there :P 20:45:07 Quiet you 20:45:28 I see you are full of helpful sugestions about how to fix her :P 20:46:19 i'v had my fill of dealing w/ other ppl's bot code 20:46:25 Heh 20:49:59 Can I just have Bri ping herself every 5 mins? 20:50:10 accually... can I ping the server? 20:50:32 without getting hit 20:50:40 w/ a kline 20:51:09 she /should/ pong the server every ~2mins anyway 20:51:22 Ok... nevermind then 20:51:32 pong? 20:51:40 abi: ping? 20:51:40 pong! 20:51:49 The server generates pings? 20:52:01 read the irc rfc 20:52:07 i dont feel like explaining it 20:52:13 Whats the #? 20:52:18 look it up 20:52:31 Where? 20:53:24 hcf knows the answers to all of lar1's above questions, just refuses to make it easy for him 20:53:39 Oh, jolly good! 20:55:09 hcf is away: (afk) 20:55:38 hcf: You should read the Net::IRC "#perl was here" comments.... very funny stuff 20:57:36 read 'em a long time ago 20:57:41 <-- afk 22:00:58 [QUIT] lar1 quit: Leaving 22:08:01 [QUIT] hcf quit: Leaving 23:00:50 nate37 joined #osdev 23:00:58 hey. 23:11:53 [QUIT] nate37 quit: Killed (NickServ (This nick is reserved by another user)) 23:13:19 nate37 joined #osdev 23:14:20 wanna contribute to my games wishlist? 23:14:58 ? 23:15:43 www.qzx.com/openspace/features.html 23:17:36 if u already loaded it then reload cuz i just fixed a layout problem that made it hard to read 23:17:48 what do you have with it so far? 23:18:03 have with what? 23:18:29 with the openSpace game. 23:18:36 u mean coded? 23:18:42 nate37_ joined #osdev 23:19:08 yeah. 23:19:32 i have an X11 client and unix server. right now u can send messages to other players 23:19:46 cool, neat idea. 23:19:55 i am working on the scripting and then i can start designing objects 23:20:43 neat idea, though. I can't program games very well :-( 23:20:53 then i will put a 2d gfx display in the client so it can show the objects 23:21:03 then i will convert the client to use 3d opengl 23:21:17 ok. 23:21:26 but can u comment on that list that i have there? 23:21:36 maybe add a few ideas u would like to see in it 23:21:42 or complaints 23:21:49 hold on... let me read it a little deeper... 23:22:01 and tell me if u dont understand something 23:22:28 i need to move the sections around to make it more understandable 23:24:09 um... the part about the user logs on to watch the action... 23:24:23 what about it 23:24:59 I think it should be a little more interactive so they feel like they have there own character they control and can build up. 23:25:15 with them just writing scripts... it seems a little boring. 23:25:32 well that is the whole game concept right there 23:25:54 u give orders to each ship, which is what u would do in the real world 23:26:30 But I think they should also have a character... so they can interact with character too. 23:26:50 read the command section 23:27:38 oh, but they can talk to other people to, right? 23:27:51 yes 23:28:13 cool. 23:28:27 im adding a section on alliances right now 23:28:47 they are key to staying alive 23:28:59 and u can do kewl shit with them 23:29:44 cool. 23:31:20 what should i call a ship that can project a warp field around itself and another ship that it is towing? 23:31:39 hm.... let me think.... 23:32:44 sub-dimensial tower? 23:33:30 heh 23:38:28 best I could do, sorry. 23:50:12 ok i added alliances, trading, and tractor beams. i also added to the command section 23:50:37 cool. 00:16:45 _ruiner_ joined #osdev