00:07:02 air???? 00:07:44 woah 00:07:51 What? 00:07:57 n/m 00:08:08 <_ruiner_> nater....whats up? 00:08:45 this is blowing chunks 00:08:57 not much... writing a game cheat getter thing for air's game cheat pages.... and i _am_ going to linworld expo 00:09:00 I _NEED_ bochs 00:09:55 _ruiner_ : sup with you? 00:11:24 <_ruiner_> I'll tell you in {} 00:11:30 <_ruiner_> or private 00:11:56 go to #chat or private, i've well... kinda stopped going into #{} 00:12:29 #chat is empty except for me though 00:12:50 nate: Why no #{}? 00:13:10 go read logs from last night (the 16th) for #{} 00:14:48 You are going to let them fucking do taht to you? 00:15:07 yes, i contribute nothing to it 00:15:08 water pulled the same fucking shit on me! 00:15:11 heh 00:15:18 Don't listen to those ass holes 00:15:26 Dude 00:15:27 eihrul and ult did agree... so 00:15:32 its a _noise_ channel 00:15:45 there isn't contributing 00:15:51 if water doesn't like it 00:15:55 he can fuck off 00:16:21 nate37 shrugs 00:16:39 the main people that use it agreed 00:17:43 ... with water 00:17:50 Whatever 00:17:57 [QUIT] lar1 quit: later 00:26:43 nate37 joined #osdev 00:51:51 [QUIT] _ruiner_ quit: destroy what destroys you 00:55:44 air : the cheat getter is comming along, although it won't be done by tonight 01:04:48 [QUIT] I440r quit: Ping timeout for I440r[purplecoder.com] 01:06:12 nate37__ joined #osdev 01:06:17 grr 01:06:43 [QUIT] nate37 quit: Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by nate37__)) 01:06:55 [NICK] nate37__ changed nick to: nate37 01:19:02 yes 01:19:20 i found my key to stay all 3 days at the expo :) 01:19:32 now.. the 15, i have to go 01:19:40 because that's when most of the stuff is 01:21:09 and my dad is all excited about sourceforge, the birds of a feather stuff... that goes from 5:15pm-7pm on the 16th, and i don't think we will take a flight at 8pm, to late..so we will have to stay another day :) 07:46:01 irc joined #osdev 07:46:16 [NICK] irc changed nick to: lar1 07:46:43 [QUIT] lar1 quit: Leaving 07:47:23 lar1 joined #osdev 07:47:29 [QUIT] lar1 quit: Leaving 08:04:21 [QUIT] eihrul quit: Ping timeout for eihrul[usr5-ppp54.lvdi.net] 10:42:07 nate37 joined #osdev 14:43:49 nate37 joined #osdev 16:11:37 air joined #osdev 16:11:37 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o air 16:20:22 [QUIT] MysticOne quit: Leaving 16:20:46 lar1 joined #osdev 16:20:52 Is air here? 16:23:13 [QUIT] Fare quit: Leaving 16:26:35 no he isnt 16:26:42 Hey 16:26:48 I need help with that darn bochs vga font thing 16:26:51 It broke again 16:26:56 heh 16:26:58 How did you fix it again? 16:27:41 mine was never broken 16:28:01 what distro u using? 16:28:41 RH 6.1 16:28:47 nate37 shudders 16:28:53 You fixed for me a few times :/ 16:36:26 lar1 joined #osdev 16:37:33 re 16:37:45 re 16:37:48 Did I miss? 16:37:53 nope 16:38:19 Ok 16:38:26 air: Ideas? 16:38:29 nate37 pokes air with a stick 16:39:31 heh 16:40:26 he seems to like to go afk everytime you ask that question... . 16:40:32 Damnit 16:40:36 i didnt sleep last night so if i pause for long periods... 16:40:40 Well I RTFM 16:41:18 I love you, Brianna 16:41:21 Umm 16:41:26 That was the p 16:41:27 hove 16:41:34 er 16:41:37 nate37 scratches his head 16:41:53 the person hovering 16:41:55 said that 16:42:05 ok 16:43:32 any of my attempts to get bochs to run any of my images have failed :-/ 16:43:42 I can't even run bochs! 16:43:48 Did you get the vga font to work? 16:44:54 yah 16:44:59 want me to send ya mine? 16:45:36 No, I have it all 16:45:39 But it says 16:45:44 it can't open the vga 16:45:45 font 16:45:50 whenever I try to run bochs 16:45:53 umm 16:45:59 perhaps ur config file is messed 16:46:06 No 16:46:09 Its X 16:46:09 it can't open up the image for it perhaps? 16:46:12 No 16:46:14 oh 16:46:16 that 16:46:17 It exits before that 16:46:18 Yeah 16:46:24 ermm 16:46:31 did you do the stuff in the readme? 16:46:35 Hell yes 16:46:35 well 16:46:36 rather 16:46:39 ) 16:46:40 just checking 16:46:40 in every wich way 16:46:54 it's definatly in the right directory? 16:47:02 The dir that the readme says 16:47:03 air? 16:47:11 umm 16:47:26 there should be some X config files... make sure the font directory is in there too 16:47:36 Ummm Hmm 16:47:48 Anyone feel like blowing off some steam with a good game of QII? 16:48:06 nate37 doesn't have QII 16:48:09 Ok 16:48:10 brb then 16:48:16 [QUIT] lar1 quit: Leaving 16:49:59 nate37: so u gonna buy hl before tf2 comes out in january? 16:50:12 tf2 is comming out in january? 16:50:21 ya, u can pre-order it 16:50:22 u really don't like answering that question, do you >:) 16:50:30 _ruiner_ joined #osdev 16:50:36 well 16:50:41 its $40 16:50:42 how much is tf2? 16:50:45 ) 16:51:01 umm... does it need better hardware? 16:51:12 maybe 16:51:22 <_ruiner_> hmmmm.....I wonder if this'll work.... 16:51:25 it adds parametric animations whatever that is 16:51:27 <_ruiner_> guess I'll find out 16:51:27 my machine is going to stay crappy for a while :-/ 16:51:33 and it adds lots of really kewl visual stuff 16:51:38 nice 16:51:45 maybe i will buy that instead of half-life 16:51:50 <_ruiner_> bah! 16:52:02 <_ruiner_> get a cable connection and q3 arena and I'll own your asses! 16:52:08 i like tfc more than hl 16:52:16 i have a cable connection 16:52:18 <_ruiner_> just as soon as I get a new computer and a cable connection myself.... 16:52:25 my machine can't run q3 16:52:25 and it uses one-click for so u dont have to hunt for crap like in tf1.5 16:52:38 er tfc1.5 16:52:41 ermm 16:52:46 one-click for? 16:53:00 tfc1.5 has menus 16:53:06 nate37 nods 16:53:06 with submenus 16:53:32 well, if my machine can run it, i'm getting it 16:53:53 i dont know how they do the one-click but its suppose to allow u to selct options really fast while in battle 16:54:03 it requires a p133 :) 16:54:22 that's not what i'm afraid of 16:54:34 my video card sucks 16:54:44 <_ruiner_> what requires a 133? 16:54:49 and i can't really upgrade it without getting a new mobo 16:54:51 tf2 does 16:54:54 tfc2 16:55:00 its not tfc2 16:55:00 <_ruiner_> whats dat? 16:55:03 its tf2 16:55:43 and my current motherboard has a bunch of crap that i will have to get new things of if i get a new mobo (well.. actually not that much, but still) 16:55:44 team fortress 16:55:53 actually 16:56:04 its a mod for quake2 and halflife that allow teamplay with 9 classes to choose from 16:56:11 <_ruiner_> ah 16:56:15 u have to have a good balance of classes on yer team to win 16:56:16 <_ruiner_> what about action quake? 16:56:21 <_ruiner_> I hear only good things about that 16:56:58 the medic can heal team mates and infect enemies with a nasty ass rash that they spread to their team mates and eventually die from it unless healed by their medic 16:57:41 <_ruiner_> heh.... 16:57:51 <_ruiner_> they need a class of people that just give everybody herpes 16:57:58 <_ruiner_> call it the amy johnson class 16:58:41 if u havent played tf or tfc then yer missing out 16:59:36 <_ruiner_> bah! 17:02:32 hmm i cant believe i bought 10 of these bizcard cdr's and havent used any yet 17:05:07 nate37: they have this new tfc map that has 4 teams on it 17:05:07 ooh 17:05:16 oh, cool 17:05:20 and u gotta get this soccer ball that u kick around 17:05:21 what kinda game? 17:05:25 umm 17:05:28 really? 17:05:48 oh 17:05:48 and while yer team has it all yer team gets points every few seconds 17:05:58 do i have to have half-life to play tf2? 17:07:13 dont know 17:07:36 hmm 17:07:40 i think u would need hl2 since it uses all the features in hl2 17:08:03 hmm 17:08:08 well 17:08:11 they probably removed tfc from hl2 and sell it as a separate product to make more money 17:08:31 i hope i don't need hl2 to play it 17:08:44 more money if i did :-/ 17:10:00 goto www.gamezone.com and search for "team fortress 2" and look at the requirements 17:10:08 k 17:10:31 i was just looking at more info on it 17:10:36 it looks kick ass 17:11:48 it says a 3d accelerator card is recommened 17:11:53 it might play ok 17:17:34 i wonder if they will have a game giveaway crap at linworld 17:17:35 expo 17:17:43 s/a/any/ 17:24:01 [QUIT] ult quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? 17:28:41 [QUIT] smklsmkl quit: back tomorrow 17:52:23 <_ruiner_> air...? 17:54:09 [NICK] ult changed nick to: UltTheHighPope 18:29:49 _ruiner_ joined #osdev 18:31:05 FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:31:08 FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:31:09 FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:31:18 <_ruiner_> what? 18:33:12 i crashed 18:33:13 bad 18:33:17 real BAD 18:33:22 <_ruiner_> how bad? 18:33:29 REAL FUCKING BAD 18:33:34 <_ruiner_> explain... 18:33:37 $200+ bad 18:33:50 <_ruiner_> explain.... 18:33:51 my heli 18:34:02 it had a close encounter with the mailbox 18:34:14 WAY TOO CLOSE 18:34:14 <_ruiner_> a model helicopter? 18:34:18 yes 18:34:24 <_ruiner_> ah.... 18:34:30 <_ruiner_> so fix it 18:34:43 could it just brake the main rotor blades? HELL NO 18:34:58 it had to blow the freakin rotor shaft to peices 18:37:00 <_ruiner_> why the hell were you buzzing mailboxes anyways? 18:38:32 the heli had a mind of its own 18:38:41 <_ruiner_> why would you want to use connectionless datagram sockets? 18:38:43 <_ruiner_> ah.... 18:39:23 i was learning to hover and it took off towards the road and when i tried to make it fly backwards it dropped on to the mailbox 18:39:39 speed 18:39:51 all games use udp 18:40:00 <_ruiner_> wait... 18:40:11 <_ruiner_> wouldn't it be slower since you'd have to wait for stray packets? 18:40:24 no 18:40:37 the game will drop packets that arrive out of sequence 18:40:54 that is what causes lag in games where the other players 'jump' 18:41:25 <_ruiner_> ok...and what exactly gives the speed boost? 18:42:09 tcp will resend if the packets are lost 18:42:09 and u have to ack each packet 18:42:24 <_ruiner_> ah.... 18:42:26 <_ruiner_> understood 18:44:14 <_ruiner_> what would the purpose be in regards to irc/ 18:44:25 irc uses tcp 18:46:01 <_ruiner_> wait... 18:46:08 <_ruiner_> ok...irc uses a stream socket 18:46:39 <_ruiner_> grrrr...nevermind...got it 18:47:50 udp doesnt use sockets 18:48:51 lar1 joined #osdev 18:48:52 air? 18:50:17 lar1: im going thru a very emotional crisis right now 18:50:24 Uh huh 18:50:26 my heli died 18:50:30 Hehehe 18:50:37 <_ruiner_> so in all my games does it strip the tcp headers, misrepresent the tcp/ip option, or just encapsulate the whole shebang in udp headers? 18:50:38 it gave the mailbox a hug 18:50:40 Does that involve my X font server? 18:50:44 Hehe 18:51:12 its going to cost me $200 to fix it and many days of work rebuilding the entire thing 18:51:31 er many weeks/months 18:51:33 Umm Hmm 18:51:38 Why so long? 18:52:16 the main rotor shaft blew the chasis apart 18:52:31 Oh crap 18:52:36 When did that happen? 18:52:38 that means i have to strip the thing down to its smallest parts and rebuild 18:52:45 30 minutes ago 18:53:11 _ruiner_: it uses udp/ip 18:53:36 _ruiner_: udp has a slightly different head than tcp, but they both use the same ip headers 18:53:36 That blows chunks 18:53:37 <_ruiner_> k 18:53:54 lar1: yes it did blow chunks all over the place 18:53:59 <_ruiner_> doesn't ip encapsulate tcp? 18:54:11 _ruiner_: udp is not tcp 18:54:16 air: Heh 18:54:21 _ruiner_: they are two different protocols 18:54:36 air: Hmm... so I take it you are too farclempt to help me with Bochs? >:) 18:54:43 i think im gonna take an axe to the mailbox 18:55:22 ya, i think im gonna go cry 18:55:43 or go get drunk and chop the mailbox down 18:56:13 Heh 18:57:50 when i rebuild the heli im gonna use the katana blades as the main rotor blades 18:59:37 use kevlar blades >:) 19:00:09 no, cuz they wouldnt give and it would explode the heli 19:00:17 Oh 19:00:35 use ummm 19:00:44 Steamed carrots! 19:00:54 The'll give! 19:01:07 ink joined #osdev 19:01:08 i want something that will cut thru and keep on spinning 19:01:09 why do u think heli's explode in movies when the main rotors hit a building? 19:01:14 Infact, they will sacrifice themselves to save the rest of the heli! 19:01:44 re 19:01:46 Mmm QII time 19:01:52 [NICK] lar1 changed nick to: lar-gaming 19:02:01 actually the blades i have are balsa and they are mounted on a swivel head so they buckle when the hit something 19:02:16 <_ruiner_> greetings ink 19:02:27 salutations 19:02:42 <_ruiner_> if they're balsa they shoulda gave way real easy 19:03:11 like when i landed the heli on its side, the blades buckled and there was zero damage 19:03:28 and i was thanking every god i could think of :) 19:04:21 <_ruiner_> gotta go 19:04:22 [QUIT] _ruiner_ quit: destroy what destroys you 19:07:32 hmmmm, i need a big damn air bag 19:08:13 something that would expand to a 15 foot diameter disk under the heli 19:08:56 and about 5 feet out it would wrap up so even if the heli landed upside down it would not allow the rotors to touch ground 19:10:27 _ruiner_ joined #osdev 19:16:00 isnt that a federal offense flying into a mailbox? hehe 19:16:19 well atleast i'm not the first to fly into a mailbox 19:27:13 nate37 returns from dinner 19:27:37 [QUIT] kc5tja quit: THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT (xchat) 19:29:20 you flew into a mailbox? 19:30:38 ink is back 19:30:53 k 19:30:59 ink is back 19:36:12 yes i did 19:36:26 umm 19:36:30 did it break? 19:36:36 DUH!!!! 19:36:40 bummer! 19:36:41 heh 19:36:47 how about the mailbox? 19:37:01 no the mailbox was victorious 19:37:12 the 1500 heli got destroyed? 19:37:14 err. 19:37:23 $1500 19:37:23 maybe just a black eye 19:37:31 no 19:37:44 ink was having fun wih firecrackers earlier today 19:37:49 what part did? 19:38:14 ever put one in a kumkwat (sp?), light, then throw? 19:38:21 i was holding the $250 radio, the new $200 engine and $150 conversion kit and the $500 in accessories where not in the heli 19:38:44 ah, well 19:38:45 i dont think the engine that was in the heli is damaged 19:38:50 still 19:38:58 how did it run into the mailbox? 19:39:10 the gyro probably isnt damaged either, and hopefully the receiver and servos arent 19:39:40 well i was hovering and turning the heli and moving it a little in each direction and it took off towards the road 19:40:25 is the modem lockfile /var/lock/LCK..modem? 19:40:28 and when it was over the mailbox i pulled back on the stick to make it fly backwards but forgot to increase throttle to compensate for the lose in life caused by flying backwards that fast 19:40:36 and it dropped like a rock onto the mailbox 19:41:00 too bad 19:41:09 -/ 19:41:13 *erk* 19:41:25 and these two ladies had just walked by with their hurd of little kids and stopped to watch and when it hit they kinda took off fast as if they thought i was gonna go balistic 19:41:37 heh 19:41:40 did you? 19:41:41 hehehe 19:41:49 <_ruiner_> that ballistic btw 19:42:05 _ruiner_: dont start with me right now 19:42:30 did you go ballistic? 19:42:33 no 19:42:43 i am not a violent person 19:42:55 thats good 19:43:30 i will just go get drunk tonight, steal the neighbors truck and drive over the mailbox 19:43:44 lol 19:43:47 heh 19:43:53 lol some more 19:44:02 just use a lawn mower! 19:44:10 ))) 19:44:16 or get a hammer 19:44:23 perhaps a torch...... 19:44:53 <_ruiner_> don't start with you? 19:44:54 <_ruiner_> ha! 19:45:33 ”OLE! 19:45:57 crap 19:46:23 eh? 19:46:36 i'm sitting here with my dead heli looking at the damage and i might have to buy a new one 19:46:56 ( 19:46:57 nooooo 19:47:05 <_ruiner_> later folks.... 19:47:08 [QUIT] _ruiner_ quit: destroy what destroys you 19:48:29 at least now you don't have to worry about "starting" with him... :) 19:48:47 it looks like my half ass training gear made out of arrow shafts kept the entire tail unharmed 19:49:09 "Shaft" "Can 'ya dig it?" 19:52:11 if u've ever had a loved one die u know how i feel right now :) 19:52:40 nate37 nods 19:53:16 ink 's grandma just died a while back 19:53:20 few weeks 19:53:29 tommorrow I go to Texas 19:53:34 for funiral etc. 19:54:04 i would rather have had it destroy the tail, blow up the engine, blow up the gyro and receiver and the radio and my car and whatever else instead of the rotor shaft 19:54:27 it took me forever to tweak the linkage in the shaft 19:54:31 erm 19:54:47 how 'bout you just gimmie your car and call it even :) 19:55:07 ? 19:55:25 he would rather his car die 19:55:33 now if only i could fix the shaft 19:55:33 here i will try to get a shot of it with my webcam and u can see my really kewl landing platform 19:56:12 cool 19:56:12 k 19:58:53 [NICK] lar-gaming changed nick to: lar1 19:58:55 [QUIT] lar1 quit: Leaving 19:59:13 http://borg/webcam.html 20:01:44 that landing pad cost me about $13 20:02:32 that ur broken heli? 20:03:03 ya 20:03:26 doesn't look to banged up 20:03:33 from the outside 20:03:44 i am trying to get a shot of the shaft 20:04:36 http://borg/cgi-bin/webcam.cgi 20:05:42 that black 'T' above the canopy should have the top parallel to the top of the canopy 20:05:47 ermm 20:05:48 404 20:05:52 oh 20:05:56 not anymore 20:05:58 and the bottom of the T should be 2" forward 20:05:58 for some reason 20:06:21 hmm 20:06:40 think the camera could be anymore crooked >:) 20:06:51 heh 20:06:59 hah 20:07:00 ink cannot tell what it is 20:07:15 hold on 20:07:20 ) 20:07:21 ) 20:08:01 ¦: ž 20:09:10 ok look now 20:09:48 what ever happen to the cable modem you were suppose to get last month? 20:10:07 ah, that's better (the camera) 20:10:47 nate37: bastards lied 20:10:58 grrr 20:11:03 are you ever getting one? 20:11:24 when they said the entire valley would be connected by june they werent using the definition found in the dictionary 20:11:35 heh :-/ 20:12:02 at&t's definition of valley = the area we feel like covering 20:12:18 nate37 nods 20:12:21 sucks 20:12:25 heh 20:12:25 how about dsl? 20:12:31 stoopid AT&T 20:12:58 they did run the new cable lines half way up my street, skipped over the 20 house section i live in and continued on with the street 20:13:20 -/ 20:13:23 jesus 20:13:42 dsl is handled by the phone company and i wont ever see dsl until all the homes on the planet are equipped with OC-10000000 lines 20:14:05 OC-10000000? 20:14:11 ) 20:14:24 you knew that would confuse me! 20:14:25 ) 20:15:21 web pages will have an average size measured in the terabytes and every home on the planet will be able to download them in the blink of an eye 20:15:31 cept me 20:15:56 ) 20:16:18 because your in the block they just decided to skip 20:16:36 even though a small family that is starving in some place gets to have it :) 20:17:57 8 of the 10 homes that would be on my line are hispanic families without computers. i guess they feel it wouldnt be worth it financially 20:18:21 -/ 20:18:36 ok maybe 6 of 10, the other 2 are computerless caucasians 20:19:33 can u steal the line from the neighbors house that does have it? 20:21:58 hah 20:22:48 just a thought 20:23:08 if i knew any of my neighbors that lived down the street i would talk them into letting me run ethernet to there home, or wireless ethernet, and i would pay for the cable bill 20:23:24 ) 20:24:23 commit computer crimes and have them traced to their house.... quikly rool up the cable :) 20:25:38 ok... i need to figure out which things i'm going to for linworld tonight 20:25:51 my dad wants to know what conferences i want to go to 20:25:54 eh? 20:25:58 ah 20:26:06 who accepted that dcc? 20:26:32 not i 20:26:42 ink did 20:26:53 nate37: did u get a message? 20:26:58 air : do you think the conferences are worth it 20:26:59 no 20:27:24 hmm i did "/dcc send #osdev heli.gif" 20:27:31 nate37: you are going to the conferences? 20:27:37 and it said #osdev downloaded it 20:27:44 ) 20:27:50 ink : if i want :) 20:28:22 cool 20:28:30 hmm 20:29:01 do you think the free stuff will be enough? 20:29:48 i'm starting to think my dad's excited enough to pay _alot_ 20:31:09 comments on what i shall do? 20:31:25 erm 20:31:30 buy me Chau's 20:31:37 grr 20:31:42 ink had Mr. Chau's for lunch today 20:32:24 should i get conference passes or tutorial passes or what? 20:33:43 hmm 20:33:49 maybe i'll be able to go 4 days :) 20:33:57 ) 20:35:31 heh 20:35:38 this is going to be intresting 20:36:08 yes 20:36:42 cause like 20:36:43 well 20:36:46 it just will be 20:37:03 air : what do you think i shoud go to? (sessions, tutorials, etc...) 20:40:59 ooh... look, a session on how crackers crack :) 20:41:46 heh 20:43:47 hmm 20:43:57 can i switch between tracks? 20:48:19 jesus 20:48:24 my dad is going to pay a lot 20:48:27 500 at least 20:48:48 nate37 is lucky ) 20:49:09 ) 20:49:47 so your passes came? 20:49:56 yes 20:50:05 he wants to register me for confrences now 20:50:10 i need to pick a track 20:50:19 hmmmm 20:50:22 god damn ya! 20:50:43 they sent me my passes, but not my info booklet 20:50:45 -/ 20:51:01 i don't have a info booklet 20:51:02 online 20:51:04 ok.. 20:51:09 user interface sounds like a good one 20:51:19 then i will go to a few other sessions if i can 20:52:15 so those things cost? 20:53:29 $500 for 3 day session pass 20:53:52 hell, maybe he will be crazy enough to buy the super pass 20:53:56 too much for me :) 20:54:02 $, that is 20:54:06 nate37 nods 20:54:08 super pass? 20:54:17 700 dollars 20:54:22 damn 20:54:24 _everything_ 20:54:36 let's not get carried away, here 20:55:12 he is the one that got carried away 20:55:18 eer.. 20:55:20 getting 20:55:21 heh 20:56:08 he got yet more excited when i said i was a channel op for #gnutella on dalnet :-/ 20:56:51 hehehe 20:57:41 i bet he's thinking: "This kid's going to make me RICH! Better get in on the ground floor!" hehehe j/k 20:57:43 ) 20:58:48 heh 20:59:59 ) 21:04:08 hmm 21:05:25 eh? 21:05:46 just 21:05:48 wierd 21:05:50 all of this 21:06:02 ok.. 21:06:06 i wrote up a schedule 21:06:12 time to take it to my dad 21:06:30 ) 21:09:56 holy shit, this place wants $35 for new wooden blades 21:10:01 ink is away: TV!! 21:11:02 hmm 21:11:11 air : what are you going to there? 21:11:26 i think i will go to the user interface sessions and a few others 21:14:58 hmm 21:15:04 i will have to leave the 14th 21:15:13 maybe 21:32:20 i will probebly miss the opening :( 21:32:44 cya 21:32:48 umm 21:32:50 grr 21:49:46 _ruiner_ joined #osdev 21:52:21 ink joined #osdev 21:53:04 ink is back 21:53:07 bak 21:56:25 OK 21:56:30 ) 21:56:34 the airline tickets have been registered 21:56:37 non-refundable 21:56:39 yay! 21:56:44 august 15... 21:56:44 yay! 21:56:53 cool 21:56:56 i get there at noon 21:56:57 no conferences? 21:57:02 then i leave.. 21:57:12 from there, august 17, 2:45pm 21:57:14 umm 21:57:15 yes 21:57:22 but my dad said the airlines are the first 21:57:25 then hotel 21:57:26 car 21:57:29 and other stuff 21:57:33 are they not on the 14th? 21:57:39 the conferences. 21:57:40 umm 21:57:42 tutorials are 21:57:46 ah 21:57:47 and i'm not taking any 21:57:49 tutorials 21:57:56 this _is_ happening 21:57:59 COOL 21:58:04 ) 21:58:15 i remember when it first came up 21:58:20 damn 21:58:23 nate37 does too 21:58:24 yah 21:58:28 damn is right 21:58:37 heh 21:58:52 there was, like _no_ hope 21:59:00 but then the turnaround 21:59:08 your mom agrees 21:59:16 your dad becomes enthused 21:59:19 ) 21:59:37 yah 21:59:42 wierd 21:59:44 well 21:59:50 i am going to miss opening keynotes 21:59:53 that's ok 22:00:00 even after your dad came in at 4:00 22:00:04 am 22:00:09 with a weird look 22:00:11 ) 22:00:14 cool 22:00:22 hmm 22:00:25 eh? 22:00:26 when are you getting there? 22:00:31 do you think 22:00:32 err, whenever 22:00:47 my dad will probebly hover for a few minues 22:00:53 ink can go pretty much whatever time he wants 22:00:53 k 22:00:57 but i doubt he will get tickets to the conferences to himself 22:01:02 s/to/for/ 22:01:08 so 22:01:16 we could meet ~ 1/2 hour into it..... 22:01:19 or whatever 22:01:21 he will probebly drive over and meet with people he knows 22:01:24 yah 22:01:34 ) 22:01:37 cool 22:01:51 play it by ear i guess 22:01:57 perhaps meet at the door at 1 22:02:02 ) 22:02:02 umm 22:02:13 i might go to a session at 12:45 22:02:14 we will see 22:02:18 ) 22:02:19 k 22:02:37 hmmmm 22:02:42 but 22:02:46 what is the modem lockfile? 22:02:47 it isn't a important one 22:02:53 where or what? 22:02:59 because my scripts are not working 22:03:06 well 22:03:12 it is not reconnecting 22:03:20 if it exists it means something is using the modem 22:03:22 well 22:03:26 something is suppose to use it 22:03:29 ip-down.local does not appear to run... 22:03:33 the program puts it there 22:03:36 yes 22:03:38 so other apps don't use it 22:03:42 i mean, where is it? 22:03:44 the modem that is 22:03:48 mmmm 22:03:50 i'm not sure 22:03:59 i want to wrte a script that checks if its there 22:03:59 nate37 doesn't use his modem anymore ) 22:04:24 because ifconfig still shown ppp0 as up, but the modem is not connected 22:04:44 dunno 22:04:57 hmmmm 22:05:00 well 22:05:17 is there a way to make it check if route completes within 15 seconds? 22:05:42 route tries to find the gateways, which are online, or whatever... 22:09:19 dunno 22:09:20 ) 22:10:17 you could come in to the bird of feather junk 22:10:32 5:45 to 7pm on the 16th 22:10:44 hopefully my dad will leave me alone then 22:11:39 what is that? 22:13:11 umm 22:13:18 "informal discussion" 22:13:56 ah 22:13:56 k 22:15:28 there is also some the 15th 22:16:02 hmm 22:16:12 you won't be able to come into the conferences though 22:16:16 but keynotes, you will 22:16:38 ) 22:17:04 should i go to the "Excutive Roundtable" >:) 22:17:51 oooh.. linux geek bowl 22:19:57 heh 22:20:03 ink wants to go bowling 22:20:05 P 22:22:11 heh 22:22:14 hmm 22:22:35 if it wasn't for me getting caught at 4am... this would have never happened 22:22:46 he would still be wondering why i wanted to go 22:22:51 and woul probebly say no 22:22:57 s/woul/would/ 22:23:26 oh 22:23:30 ruiner is here 22:23:34 didn't notice that 22:24:52 _ruiner_ : do you mind if i take two pieces of cardboard and put the cdrom in between (with some bubble wrap in the middle or something) to minimize weight? 22:35:39 hmm 22:35:45 shouldn't be more than a dollar 22:35:47 at the most 22:36:25 i still have to figure out how i am going to steal some stamps from the drawer 22:36:34 i don't think they keep track of them 22:36:37 but ya never know 22:37:10 what are you sending? 22:37:20 a linux cd to ruiner 22:37:31 ah 22:37:44 so why would your parents care about you taking stamps? 22:37:48 well 22:37:53 because: 22:38:04 they would want to know who i am sending something too 22:38:19 and i am secretive 22:38:20 ) 22:39:11 ) 22:39:17 hmm 22:39:34 what distro? 22:39:42 ink is reading the hacker dict. 22:39:51 that is why answers may be lagged 22:39:52 i think i will attend some of the security sessions at linworld 22:39:57 from time to time 22:39:59 slackware 7 22:40:03 cool 22:40:09 ink wants slaclware 22:40:25 s/slaclware/slackware 22:40:28 ) 22:40:33 back to the dict 22:44:09 lol 22:44:15 what? 22:44:22 a description of c, hold on... 22:44:25 lar1 joined #osdev 22:44:36 err, a quote of some people's views of it 22:44:40 hold on 22:44:43 heyya lar 22:44:47 Hey 22:44:53 the airline tickets are booked 22:44:54 I _NEED_ bochs 22:44:56 Yay! 22:44:57 non-refundable 22:44:59 i am going 22:45:00 heh 22:45:03 cool 22:45:11 arriving at noon on the 15th 22:45:21 leaving at 2:45 the 17th 22:45:30 i will miss opening keynotes 22:45:31 that's ok 22:45:39 since i will be going to a hella lot of conferences 22:45:55 You are going to the _confrence_? 22:45:58 _Sweet_ 22:45:58 "a language that combines all the elegance and power of assembly language with all the readabillity and maintainabillity of assembely language" 22:46:09 yeah, he is paying for them 22:46:10 ) 22:46:13 ink: what is that? 22:46:13 hey lar, wazzap? 22:46:23 nada 22:46:31 How does on restart the X fontserver? 22:46:34 quote from hacker's dictionary 22:46:38 about C 22:46:40 hmm 22:46:42 Ah 22:46:52 funny 22:46:57 ) 22:47:02 back to the dict! 22:47:17 ink shall poll for responses 22:47:18 fun 22:47:21 o well 22:47:22 xfs is the server 22:47:25 for real this time 22:47:30 BACK TO THE DICT! 22:47:30 just send a HUP signal to it 22:48:06 even better 22:48:16 there should be a /var/run/xfs.pid 22:48:20 if there is 22:48:22 do a 22:48:35 kill -HUP `cat /var/run/xfs.pid' 22:48:37 err. 22:48:50 Ok 22:48:51 make both of those single quotes `s not 's 22:48:54 that will restart? 22:48:57 it should 22:49:01 ok 22:49:02 brb 22:49:07 [QUIT] lar1 quit: [x]chat 23:23:00 hmm 23:23:29 can we move me raddling on about linworld to another non-logged channel? 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