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18:19:38 nate37 doesn't even know what dss is so, "No" 18:20:59 what is dss? 18:21:05 <_ruiner_> direct tv 18:21:08 <_ruiner_> mini dishes 18:22:12 oh, those things 18:22:37 hey, what happens if there isn't enough postage on a envelope who's return addr is the same addr as the main one? 18:22:44 do they just dump it or what? 18:23:20 <_ruiner_> either charge me or dump it 18:23:42 <_ruiner_> goes into the dead letters and they keep it if they want it 18:24:21 hmm 18:24:35 <_ruiner_> not like mailmen are above taking stuff from envelopes that have the correct postage though.... 18:26:30 nate37 nods 18:27:01 well..i'm off to a meeting, be back in about 2 hours 18:35:54 <_ruiner_> later 18:57:22 lar1 joined #osdev 18:57:24 [QUIT] lar1 quit: Leaving 20:08:40 _ruiner_ joined #osdev 20:50:49 lar1 joined #osdev 20:50:51 [QUIT] lar1 quit: Leaving 20:57:41 <_ruiner_> not true ruiner, linux is only a kernel, not an OS 20:57:44 <_ruiner_> wtf? 21:04:56 heh 21:05:04 depends how you define OS :-/ 21:30:32 air joined #osdev 21:30:32 [MODE] ChanServ set mode: +o air 21:32:03 <_ruiner_> greetings air 21:32:51 hey 21:33:04 i just foond a problem with linworld expo's system 21:33:06 <_ruiner_> I dont think it would be wise to setup a static gateway when my cable router is assigned a IP using DHCP 21:33:34 somebody can get the 3 day session pass for $145 21:33:43 instead of the $435 they have on some of the pages 21:33:53 i paid $145 21:34:03 you took advantage of the bug! 21:34:05 yay 21:34:15 my dad said he wouldn't take advantage of it :( 21:34:32 i'm getting a 2-day pass 21:36:19 yay, i have been accepted to get 7 cents per click on a banner 21:36:39 heh 21:36:42 if all 12,000 hits per month will click on the banner... 21:36:45 lucky you :) 21:36:55 $840 21:39:10 hmm 21:39:15 wierd how i'm paying 21:39:22 $290 for 2 day pass 21:39:27 and ur paying $145 for 3 days 21:41:26 i will try to finish up that script for you tonight 21:42:02 i got it so it converts a cheat page to some wierd XML thing... now i just need it to convert that to ur PHP format... then i need it to go through the main index, then i'm done 21:42:46 kewl 21:44:01 can u also make it shuffle the cheat codes around per game so they arent in the same order. and can u make it use different descriptions that mean the same thing. that way they dont think i copied them directly from their site :) 21:44:26 nate37 sighs 21:44:28 ) 21:44:34 haha 21:45:27 well 21:45:32 hmmmmm 21:45:49 i can make it so "the" becomes "da" and "cool" becomes "kewl" :) 21:45:50 i think this banner is not a banner but a web bug 21:47:08 damnit 21:47:12 what? 21:47:16 it is a web bug 21:47:29 ermmm.. eh? 21:47:33 now qzx.com is gonna get a bad rep cuz it has a web bug 21:47:56 web bug? 21:48:11 what the hell is a web bug? 21:48:16 <_ruiner_> spread the word! 21:49:00 its a picture that is 1x1 pixels 21:49:15 and how is somebody going to click on it? 21:49:15 it tracks users that visit yer page 21:49:20 grr 21:49:24 a web "bug" 21:49:25 i see 21:49:46 the banner is just text 21:49:51 with a text link 21:50:23 hmm 21:50:43 speaking of tracks... which one will you be focusing on at linworld? 21:50:58 i think i'll be mostly going to user interface and netword security stuff 21:51:49 netword? i didnt see that on the list 21:52:21 heh 21:52:31 nate37 wasn't looking at what he typed 21:52:33 [QUIT] rares quit: Ping timeout for rares[wtrb-sh2-port220.snet.net] 21:52:34 network! 21:53:33 holy shit 21:53:36 i want to go to the hacking and how to stop them 21:53:37 what? 21:53:51 the banner has been up for maybe 10 minutes and i have 10 impressions 21:53:54 nate37 has been smurfed by gremlins one to many times... he must learn how to protect his computer 21:54:08 hmm? 21:54:18 10 impressions? 21:54:24 fake vistitors? 21:54:41 the web bug has been loaded 10 times 21:54:55 my average has been 10 bits per hour 21:55:01 hits 21:55:33 i really like IE users cuz they jack up the counter and the web bug impressions 21:55:40 ) 21:56:09 netscape doesnt reload the images until u restart it 21:56:35 nate37 just gave air 7 more cents ) 21:56:44 i hope they dont mind if i pretty up their text "banner" 21:56:50 YAY 21:57:10 _ruiner_: go give me 7 cents 21:57:39 <_ruiner_> only if you send me a check for 3.5 cents 21:57:40 [TOPIC] nate37: www.qzx.com: click on the banner and give 7 cents to air! 21:57:51 hah 21:58:03 u forgot the /games 21:58:13 <_ruiner_> linux support line? 21:58:24 www.qzx.com/games 21:58:53 well 21:59:05 that doesn't get mentioned until after it filled with codes 21:59:05 <_ruiner_> I see no banner 21:59:09 <_ruiner_> only a lame hyperlink 21:59:23 oh wait 21:59:24 ya its a TEXT banner 21:59:34 i thought the linux support line was the banner 21:59:38 <_ruiner_> going minimal for speed purposes? 21:59:39 nate37: no 21:59:51 _ruiner_: they didnt give me a damn image 21:59:54 <_ruiner_> ha ha! I gave air his first 7 cents 21:59:56 [TOPIC] nate37: www.qzx.com/games: click on the *text* banner and give 7 cents to air! 22:00:08 damnit 22:00:17 <_ruiner_> put one up of a great big fat chick taking a dump 22:00:18 i gave him is second :-/ 22:00:25 s/is/his/ 22:00:56 <_ruiner_> noooooooooo! 22:01:03 <_ruiner_> jotter fucking pisses me off 22:01:14 <_ruiner_> I hope they die 22:01:26 what?!?!?! 22:01:31 <_ruiner_> after they send air his money, so he can send me 3.5 cents 22:01:46 <_ruiner_> crashed nutscrape 22:01:55 <_ruiner_> right in the middle of some good pr0n too.... 22:01:56 hahaha 22:02:17 if u run their software u get 50 cents/hr 22:02:33 <_ruiner_> bullshit 22:02:36 <_ruiner_> sounds like a scam to me 22:02:50 and i leave js and java off unless a page needs them 22:02:53 <_ruiner_> and 50 cents an hour doesn't do much good for me 22:03:01 <_ruiner_> considering it was a maximum of 15 hours a month 22:03:05 so ns never crashes on me 22:05:34 <_ruiner_> grrrr..... 22:05:38 <_ruiner_> this is gonna be a bitch 22:05:54 what is? 22:06:12 <_ruiner_> this irc client 22:06:29 <_ruiner_> considering that I'm not only going to let the user define the interface 22:06:35 <_ruiner_> but also the behavior of the parser 22:09:27 <_ruiner_> I suppose that it isn't really stopping me from writing code for the rest of it though... 22:14:17 <_ruiner_> hmmmm.....quiet 22:15:10 <_ruiner_> maybe I'm asking too much of this... 22:17:10 <_ruiner_> how's the helicopter? 22:17:12 could one of u get a good web page and use clickXchange and tell em i sent ya then i will get 5% of everything u make 22:17:22 plus $10 up front 22:17:23 <_ruiner_> heh.... 22:17:32 <_ruiner_> I would except for one thing.... 22:17:45 <_ruiner_> I absolutely refuse to have banner ads on my site 22:18:00 u dont need ads 22:18:19 u have to sign up and then u have to ask advertisers to pay u for ads 22:18:29 if yer site sucks they will say no 22:18:51 all i need is for u to sign up and i get $10 22:19:03 if u get ads then i get 5% of them 22:19:04 <_ruiner_> my site sucks 22:20:43 nate37 looks over at air than thinks "Geez... i can't belive he gave in to the evil ad banner people" 22:21:05 <_ruiner_> he was weak nate 22:21:12 <_ruiner_> let him serve as an example 22:21:21 yes 22:21:33 he will go down into text books as the weakest person alive 22:21:39 people will learn from his mistake! 22:22:03 <_ruiner_> people are too dumb to learn 22:22:18 we must teach them! 22:22:25 ad banners are evilllll! 22:22:29 <_ruiner_> they're not worthwhile 22:22:37 well 22:22:39 bummer then 22:24:20 [QUIT] MysticOne quit: Life, a brush with the unreal. 22:26:59 <_ruiner_> talk about something 22:27:08 hmm 22:27:17 nate37 will only talk about linworld expo 22:27:57 <_ruiner_> no 22:28:23 then you talk about something 22:28:26 [QUIT] ult quit: Leaving 22:29:55 <_ruiner_> I hear only really dorky ugly people play with model helicopters.... 22:30:07 yah 22:30:30 and only really dorky ugly _stupid_ people crash them 22:31:35 <_ruiner_> I have to figure out how I'm going to do this.... 22:34:35 lar1 joined #osdev 22:34:40 air 22:34:46 why does bfe spew core on my box? 22:34:57 could that be a problem with xforms? 22:39:24 nate37 thinks air got mad and went afk after him and _ruiner_ insulted him and his heli 22:39:34 heh 22:39:41 do you know if rh 6.1 is libc 6? 22:39:50 don't have a clue 22:40:02 you should be able to find out easily though 22:40:53 i got my 2 day session passes registered today... and we have flight, hotel and car rental all taken care of 22:41:03 Sweet 22:41:05 lar1: does bochs work? 22:41:10 air: Yes 22:41:22 did u compile the debugger and disasm into bochs 22:41:30 air: if I do a ./bfe it says Segmentation Fault (core dumped) or Invalid Instruction (core dumped) 22:41:31 Yes 22:41:40 It works on my other box 22:41:44 lar1: run bochs and then type 's' 22:41:49 and tell me what bochs says 22:41:54 Can't from here 22:41:58 Bochs runs fine 22:42:12 bfe core's well before bochs is in the picture 22:42:13 i didnt ask if bochs runs fine 22:42:18 Heh 22:42:42 i asked u to show me what bochs outputs 22:43:01 ...which I can't do 22:43:11 why not? 22:43:22 Because the box is 20min away 22:43:30 I don't have inet access to it when I am in linux 22:43:44 I can't get it to work with their network 22:43:48 (in lin) 22:43:59 u can't telnet in to ur damn box? 22:44:08 No its in win right now, I am vnced to it 22:44:18 "pump -i eth0" eth0 22:44:18 ah, ic 22:44:26 Interrupt from stoped card 22:44:30 Thats what I get 22:44:55 (for the NIC ;) ) 22:45:13 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 22:46:00 the dj on the radio just said someone that paid $18/mo for the radio's ISP called him up and asked why he couldnt connect 22:46:32 heh 22:46:52 and after the dj helped him for 10 minutes the dj asked "do u have the computer plugged into a phone line" and the guy said that he didnt have a phone in the house and that he was calling from his brothers cell phone 22:47:01 hehehe 22:47:18 and he thought the radio card in his computer would let him get online and the dj told him no it only lets u listen to radio 22:47:28 Nice DJ ;) 22:47:54 and then the guy threw down the phone and the dj heard a loud sound and someone else picked up the phone and said he just shot the monitor with a shotgun 22:48:14 Fake 22:48:28 definatly 22:48:51 Like the guy would have a shot gun at the ready :/ 22:49:03 well 22:49:05 air: Any ideas of things I sould check? 22:49:09 the "no phone in the house" also 22:49:12 yet a cell phone 22:49:22 Well 22:49:27 [QUIT] kc5tja quit: THX QSO ES 73 DE KC5TJA/6 CL ES QRT AR SK 22:49:30 Could be underservice or somthing 22:49:36 But true 22:49:44 nate37: i know many ppl that only have cells 22:50:05 <_ruiner_> ooh.....susan ward.... 22:50:11 jesus 22:50:22 nate37 bonks _ruiner_ over the head 22:50:26 air? 22:50:31 please stop shouting peoples names out 22:50:57 Brianna Naglee 22:51:02 Alyssa Naglee 22:51:07 Tjara! 22:51:08 >:) 22:51:16 The Mage Trio 22:51:35 Hmm 22:51:37 ummm 22:51:45 the two scared names are sisters? 22:51:48 err. 22:51:50 sacred 22:51:53 Yes, I just found out 22:51:56 well 22:51:59 then duh 22:52:11 if ones pretty.. a good chance that the other one is 22:52:15 if they are sisters 22:52:18 well 22:52:20 not good chance 22:52:23 but a better one 22:52:28 I also just found that their last names are Naglee as well 22:52:45 hmm 22:52:57 i just found out i was making a point about nothing 22:52:58 oh well 22:53:09 That is the only part of the world in my mind that I took from real life 22:53:25 Naglee is the name of a street around Santa Clara 22:53:31 I _like_ that name 22:53:43 It makes a good last name, though :) 22:55:12 hmm 22:55:30 my dad said he will just drop me off and pick me up at the expo/conference 22:55:36 Ok 22:55:40 that is nice of him 22:55:41 ) 22:55:43 Indeed 22:56:13 there is some people i might see up there that i havn't seen in years 22:56:14 lar1: i can not help u unless u can run bochs 22:56:14 When the time draws near, we can specify a meet time/point. 22:56:20 somebody my age 22:56:28 Kirk Cowgill 22:56:35 air: Hmm, ok. It wouldn't be Xforms or anything, though, right? 22:56:41 nate: Sweet! 22:56:46 there are two common problems that bfe users have 22:57:39 a) they start bfe and the window appears and quickly disappears. caused by a lame user that doesnt put bochs in the path and bfe couldnt run bochs. fixed by putting bochs in the path or editing the bfe/config.h file 22:57:53 Thats not it... :) 22:58:01 that's what mine was :) 22:58:07 heheh 22:58:20 Oh, that vga font worked when I restarted the font server... :/ 22:58:44 b) bfe starts up and runs fine but crashes when the user clicks on a tab. caused by the user using xforms 0.89 which uses a new type of folder and bfe will not work with 0.89 yet so u gotta get 0.88 22:59:05 I have .88 IIRC 22:59:13 RH is libc6, right? 22:59:29 c) the user did not compile debugger and disasm into bochs 23:00:13 Oh 23:00:20 nate37 sighs 23:00:22 I found a secruity hole in RH 23:00:27 what is it? 23:00:37 if, at lilo you type "linux single" 23:00:46 you are dumped in to single user mode with superuser access 23:00:52 jesus 23:00:58 it needs the root password 23:01:01 Nope 23:01:08 it doesn't? 23:01:09 I saw it with my own eyes 23:01:12 on my own box 23:01:14 well 23:01:16 then in lilo.. 23:01:32 you make it so you have to specify a password to pass things to the kernel 23:01:42 Heh 23:01:45 that would prevent it 23:02:03 but then again... 23:02:06 Should I submit that as a bug? >:) 23:02:26 you should lock up ur server if you have anything important on it (or something you don't want people to see) 23:03:46 Well the only people who have access to it aren't linux-savvy enough to start the fucker 23:03:56 And anyone who is doesn't know of this bug 23:04:04 (1 friend...) 23:04:59 go make ur own system 23:05:01 funner :) 23:05:10 system as in distro 23:05:35 heh 23:06:01 lot cleaner... you learn more... you can add what you want, and only what you want, etc.. 23:06:57 will you be going to the Birds of a feather sessions? 23:07:06 (5:15pm to 7pm on the 16th) 23:09:09 lar1: go give me 7 cents 23:09:16 read the topic! 23:11:20 uh oh 23:11:29 what could "CPM rate" mean? 23:11:33 my computers making rumbling noises 23:11:41 i hope this isn't the night where my server craps 23:12:19 its says i have 100 impressions (hits), 3 click-thrus and CPM rate = $2.10 and i have earned $0.21 23:12:48 that's the rate in which they will charge you >:) 23:13:08 hahaha 23:13:49 Cash Per Month rate? i dunnoe 23:13:53 s/e$// 23:24:36 air: What program are you using for this? 23:25:04 lar1 : are u going to the birds of a feather sessions? 23:25:53 <_ruiner_> air...you know of any resources on how to open and direct your browser to a certain site by running an exe? 23:26:18 nate: What are they? 23:27:21 lar1: program? 23:27:42 air: Who is paying you. :) 23:28:03 jotter is the advertiser that pays me via clickXchange.com 23:28:39 lar1 : "Informal Discussion" 23:29:22 nate; confrence or expo? 23:29:54 umm 23:29:58 it's open to everybody 23:30:06 that's registered 23:30:08 Oh 23:30:16 What are they goin to discuss? 23:30:24 umm well 23:30:32 there are a few differents one 23:30:32 s 23:30:42 i'm not exactly sure what they will do 23:30:49 i will probebly go to the sourceforge one 23:30:56 heh 23:31:07 not sure 23:31:12 will get back to ou on that 23:31:13 ) 23:31:16 anyways 23:31:19 I am out 23:31:21 k 23:31:22 cya 23:31:28 [QUIT] lar1 quit: [x]chat 23:33:01 i wonder if he paid me my 7 cents 23:33:03 ) 23:33:18 ) 23:34:50 <_ruiner_> air...you know of any resources on how to open and direct your browser to a certain site by running an exe? 23:35:06 i do with netscape 23:35:19 <_ruiner_> can you direct me to it? 23:35:35 <_ruiner_> or are you saying that you yourself are a resource? 23:36:55 <_ruiner_> nm....found the site 23:37:33 netscape -remote 'openURL(www.qzx.com', new-window)' 23:37:49 <_ruiner_> command line...k 23:37:56 i am the resource :) 23:38:18 i wrote a gtk app that has an url box so i could launch netscape from linux 23:39:20 oops get rid of the ' after www.qzx.com 23:49:24 <_ruiner_> hmmmmm 23:49:42 <_ruiner_> if there's a window open how do you get it to redirect just the open window? 23:50:29 i think JZ has some code to do that 23:50:40 i might still have it, hold on 23:51:08 <_ruiner_> jz? 23:51:17 jamie zawinski 23:51:37 he used to work for netscape 23:51:45 <_ruiner_> whoa... 23:51:46 everyone knows him 23:51:46 <_ruiner_> sweet 23:51:51 <_ruiner_> I don't 23:51:55 <_ruiner_> I guess I'm not an everyone 23:51:56 cept for lusers :) 23:52:22 <_ruiner_> where does everybody know him from? 23:52:30 <_ruiner_> don't say netscape 23:52:38 <_ruiner_> you said knows him, not knows of him 23:52:39 he got netscape to opensource the code 23:53:39 he is one of the netscape made millionaires 23:54:55 goto www.tunes.org/~qz and see if anything looks like it would relate to netscape 23:58:11 <_ruiner_> not seeing anything.... 00:01:25 Do you sweat?