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Wednesday, 2 May 2018

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01:32:16 <geist> well that was fun. i just installed linux on a 386sx w/4MB ram
01:32:27 <geist> it runs. its not awful
01:36:50 <_mjg_> which version
01:37:02 <geist> slackware 2.0.1
01:37:08 <geist> has linux 1.0.9 on it
01:37:14 <_mjg_> solid
01:37:30 <geist> yeah i only installed the A disk set, since punching out floppies is slow
01:37:41 <_mjg_> i would probably go with a bsd for this one
01:37:42 <geist> but it's sufficient to boot up and poke around. it's not too bad
01:37:57 <geist> yeah, i was thinking that. interesting that the freebsd archives site was down
01:38:15 <geist> it seems to be up now, but i was actually going to start with the 2.2.x series there and see if it can boot in 4MB
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01:38:34 <geist> 2.2.8 or so is probably too big though
01:39:44 <geist> also funny i had a 200GB IDE drive that i used. needless to say the 386's bios doesn't know about it, so I entered the max supported CHS (1024/16/63) so the 200GB drive is not a 504MB
01:39:55 <geist> s/not/now
01:40:37 <geist> almost a bit disappointing though, since the 200GB drive makes almost no sound at all. the head is probably moving back and forth like a millimeter
01:40:46 <geist> cant even tell it's being accessed
01:40:49 <_mjg_> :)
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01:41:29 <_mjg_> i guess depends how retro do you want to go here, people put in new drives with adapters
01:41:47 <geist> yeah having it click and clack is important
01:41:56 <geist> especialyl for a machine that's probably going to swap a lot
01:42:20 <_mjg_> i had a 486 box with a scsi drive taking up two 5.25 inch slots
01:42:39 <_mjg_> about 600MB and was getting hot like a motherfucker
01:43:12 <geist> ah yeah. wonder what the power draw was on that
01:43:25 <_mjg_> it was also slow as shit, even for that era
01:44:43 <geist> otherwise the disk that is in the 386 and has dos on it is a 420MB Connor drive
01:44:52 <geist> and it's quite clicky and appears to be quite fast
01:44:58 <geist> 420MB was pretty big for the era
01:46:19 <_mjg_> ye, i wondered how could i possibly use all this space
01:49:14 <_mjg_> upgrade from 486dx2 50 mhz + 8 MB ram to p75 + 16MB ram was glorious
01:49:35 <_mjg_> everything felt several times faster and it probably was
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02:07:55 <geist> yah i went directly from a 386sx 16mhx + 4MB to a P90 w/16
02:08:10 <geist> the 386 was really pretty aged by then
02:08:57 <geist> would be interesting to get a feel for the real difference between a sx and a dx 386. should be somewhere around 1.5x i bet
02:09:13 <geist> then i wonder how much faster some of the high end 386 boards were with cache on board
02:09:33 <geist> this paricular machine i have apparently has some sorto f cache bypass board on it
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03:09:57 <doug16k> geist, I'd guess more than 1.5x, sx starves from instruction fetch bottleneck
03:11:41 <doug16k> not having a cache is pretty rough, causes a lot of DRAM row activate/precharge thrashing
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03:46:01 * klange implements some random bad libc things
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04:47:38 <StereoBucket> doug16k so if I wanted to play around with PIT and interrupts while still in windows I'd need to write a driver to be able to use interrupts, right?
04:49:41 <bcos> StereoBucket: You'd probably need the HAL's source code (to stop whatever code is already using the PIT)
04:50:21 <StereoBucket> Hmm, I wonder how BaWaMi does it
04:50:35 <StereoBucket> perhaps just timing it manually
04:50:38 <immibis> what is BaWaMi?
04:50:51 <StereoBucket> Some program that can play sounds on the pc speaker
04:51:12 <immibis> i bet nothing else uses the PC speaker any more so they can just write to it from their driver
04:51:39 <immibis> windows does/did have a Beep syscall
04:51:49 <StereoBucket> Did, now its just regular sound beep
04:51:53 <immibis> so if it's just beeping they could have used that
04:52:02 <StereoBucket> No, it's PWM
04:52:40 <StereoBucket> there is an inpout dll in the exe directory so they are definitely manually beeping the thing
04:53:14 <StereoBucket> Guess I'll try it with manual timing instead of interrupts
04:53:15 <bender|> yeah if you try to beep directly through Windows API
04:53:23 <bender|> you get that Windows 10 "biinng"
04:53:38 <immibis> you could always try decompiling inpout. That sounds (N.P.I.) exactly like a library for accessing I/O ports
04:53:49 <bender|> although why use a PC speaker
04:53:53 <bender|> just emulate it
04:53:55 <StereoBucket> the upside of beep is if you crash the beep stops. I've not figured how to prevent the beep from happening if my program crashes
04:54:33 <StereoBucket> emulate the pc speaker?
04:54:43 <bender|> yeah?
04:54:52 <StereoBucket> hmm sounds good
04:54:56 <bender|> you only need it to sound like the PC speaker, right?
04:55:34 <StereoBucket> I intend to an actual pc speaker when I manage to cobble something together
04:55:39 <StereoBucket> to use an*
04:56:27 <immibis> I have a box around here with a speaker controlled by a MCU's GPIO pin
04:56:44 <immibis> (its purpose is to annoy people by randomly beeping)
04:57:12 <StereoBucket> hahah, yeah I once wrote a program that would stay invisible and randomly beep some songs and placed it on a school computer
04:57:13 <bender|> guess my laptop has a PC speaker
04:57:18 <bender|> which beeps when you disconnect power
04:57:34 <immibis> not necessarily a PC speaker, it could be connected to the embedded controller
04:57:43 <StereoBucket> unfortunately or fortunately the school upgraded the computers in that classroom not long after to some windows 10 machines so it was all for nothing
04:58:04 <immibis> actually how do you know it's not your main speakers?
04:58:05 <bender|> I guess QB64 uses some sort of PC speaker emulation
04:58:25 <bender|> immibis: It's much more louder than what I can pull off with my main speakers
04:58:29 <bender|> Also it's localized
04:58:46 <StereoBucket> most modern PCs and laptops dont have the pc speaker. If you want one you gotta put it in yourself either by installing it into a desktop or when you build your own
04:59:37 <immibis> or just hot-glue a speaker inside your PC case
05:00:12 <immibis> i used to be sad for the PC speaker then I realised what an incredibly stupid design it was
05:00:46 <immibis> i mean it's okay for the time period but now it's just redundant and useless
05:00:46 <bender|> or just connect an old IBM PC to your laptop through a USB connector and program the PC speaker from the laptop itself over USB which then is translated to PS/2 and then write a program to beep through the IBM PC speaker when it catches something over the PS/2 port
05:01:20 <StereoBucket> yeah you can always flash the lights or something else if you really need to show some error code
05:01:47 <bender|> i once saw a debugging meme
05:02:06 <StereoBucket> what was it about
05:02:36 <bender|> gdb < printf < keyboard LED < speaker beeps < Greek philosopher sitting and contemplating
05:02:51 <StereoBucket> printf all the way :)
05:02:53 <immibis> where does the rubber duck fit in?
05:03:21 <immibis> this beep box MCU was programmed with an arduino-based programmer I made, and the only way I had to debug the program was an LED output
05:03:30 <StereoBucket> use the speaker beeps to tell the programmer variable values via morse code
05:04:08 <immibis> also it's controlled by waving your hand in front of a light sensor in a predictably timed pattern but that's intentiona
05:04:10 <immibis> l
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05:45:06 <klys> mang does anyone know about nested bsd disklabels
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06:54:00 * variable glares at StereoBucket
06:54:14 <StereoBucket> Hi
06:54:22 <variable> klys: I do, but am about to leave; ask your Q though
06:54:31 <StereoBucket> Are you local?
06:54:41 <variable> StereoBucket: define local
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06:54:58 <StereoBucket> that's no fun
06:55:00 <variable> StereoBucket: I'm actually constant
06:55:43 <StereoBucket> so why did you glare at me
06:57:24 <variable> [05:03:09] <StereoBucket> use the speaker beeps to tell the programmer variable values via morse code
06:57:47 <StereoBucket> brilliant right? ;p
06:58:07 <variable> using me?
06:58:09 <variable> ofc
06:59:18 <Ameisen> That's the proper way to do clean room reverse engineering.
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12:32:58 <mra90> Where can I read about creating own C lib?
12:46:33 <glauxosdever> https://wiki.osdev.org/Creating_a_C_Library <- Didn't read it but, since it's written mostly by sortie, it has to be good
12:46:35 <bslsk05> ​wiki.osdev.org: Creating a C Library - OSDev Wiki
12:46:57 <sortie> “ Don't proclaim me a master of osdev and quote my holy words in #osdev. ”
12:47:03 <glauxosdever> lol
12:47:08 <glauxosdever> Hey sortie!
12:50:36 <glauxosdever> sortie: You are a professor at the University of OSDev. Professors at the University of OSDev are masters. THerefore, you are a master.
12:50:41 <sortie> That's Mr. Prophet to you.
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12:51:11 <glauxosdever> Who is that?
12:51:44 <sortie> I prophetize the impeding doom of certain osdev projects for a nominal monthly fee.
12:51:56 <glauxosdever> Um
12:52:07 <sortie> ToAru has the doom!
12:52:12 <glauxosdever> :D
12:53:29 <glauxosdever> https://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32870 <- Unfortunately, non-masters are writing OSDev books. Have you seen this thread?
12:53:30 <bslsk05> ​forum.osdev.org: OSDev.org • View topic - Has anyone else seen this book yet?
12:55:03 <mra90> bslsk05: correct your link
12:55:23 <sortie> bslsk05 is a bot
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12:59:22 <_mjg_> oh no
12:59:43 <_mjg_> 0x04 Into to the C Programming Language
12:59:50 <_mjg_> ye, i don't think it's a good book
12:59:55 <_mjg_> just from this
13:00:33 <_mjg_> reading the rest suggests this is a tutorial how to set up a hello world kernel
13:00:58 <glauxosdever> Unfortunately, it seems to be like it
13:01:06 <sortie> Obviously that should be 04
13:01:10 <sortie> All the good C books use octal
13:01:14 <glauxosdever> Sigh, just read Bare Bones
13:01:22 <glauxosdever> Not that book
13:01:40 <_mjg_> Lucus Darnell is the chief innovation evangelist with the CTO office at TIBCO Software where his primary focus is R&D for the internet of things (IoT).
13:01:44 <glauxosdever> sortie: Do they? *puzzled*
13:01:59 <_mjg_> ye i don't think this person is too technical to begin with
13:02:57 <glauxosdever> Even Deitel is by far better than the one that wrote said OSDev book.
13:03:22 <_mjg_> there is an abundance of very bad C and linux kernel tutorials
13:03:33 <_mjg_> i guess osdev had to get some
13:03:57 <glauxosdever> That's unfortunate.
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13:07:32 <_mjg_> someone keeps handing out student assignments which tell them to *hijack* the open syscall in linux
13:08:50 <glauxosdever> What kind of assignments are those?
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13:10:20 <_mjg_> mostly read the path and print to the console
13:10:30 <_mjg_> or filter by path
13:10:40 <_mjg_> which does not work due to TOCTOU
13:10:57 <_mjg_> problems with this assignment are a common occurence on stackoverflow
13:11:06 <glauxosdever> Link?
13:11:08 <_mjg_> i asked several peoplle who gave them the assignment
13:11:11 <_mjg_> and never got a response
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13:12:21 <glauxosdever> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50114099/does-fopen-return-null-pointer-if-file-is-already-open/50114472#50114472
13:12:23 <bslsk05> ​stackoverflow.com: c - does fopen return NULL pointer if file is already open - Stack Overflow
13:12:24 <glauxosdever> THis?
13:13:26 <_mjg_> syscall
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13:13:36 <_mjg_> kernel-level
13:13:48 <_mjg_> of this sort https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48418365/intercepting-system-calls-using-linux-kernel-modules
13:13:50 <bslsk05> ​stackoverflow.com: Intercepting system calls using linux kernel modules - Stack Overflow
13:14:03 <_mjg_> but somehow can't find the "open" ones right now
13:14:08 <_mjg_> chances are they got delete already
13:14:11 <_mjg_> deleted even
13:15:00 <_mjg_> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47252499/linux-syscalls-hooking-with-modern-kernel-in-x64-system
13:15:02 <bslsk05> ​stackoverflow.com: c - Linux Syscalls Hooking With Modern Kernel In x64 System - Stack Overflow
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13:23:46 <mrvn> Have they never heard of ptrace?
13:24:19 <mrvn> or how to use strn*()?
13:25:38 <mrvn> .oO(and then the code gets worse)
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14:11:46 <gamozo> what do people use for their reserved memory ranges?
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14:11:55 <gamozo> interval trees?
14:14:24 <chrisf> gamozo: for describing address spaces, or physical memory?
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14:47:54 <geist> gamozo: i generally just describe each valid region
14:48:04 <geist> and just pretend the resered stuff doesn't exist
14:48:26 <geist> *generally* speaking the crossver point of having a larger run of physical with a few pages missing is fairly low, like 1MB
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14:51:41 <geist> but it dependsx on your data structures
14:51:52 <geist> no matter what you do you have to at least deal with non contiguous physical memory
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15:48:22 <gamozo> ah, I'm talking about reserved virtual memory
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15:48:41 <gamozo> i want to be able to reserve about 128 GiB of vaddr space without having to create page tables or something
15:48:51 <gamozo> but then I need to have my virtual address allocator to be aware that this region is in use
15:49:35 <chrisf> gamozo: i do a dumb simple thing: i have a simple list of virtual regions
15:50:02 <gamozo> yeah, I have that right now as n is about 2 for me right now, but I'm trying to think bout in the future if I want to change it
15:51:02 <chrisf> good enough for linux
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16:08:21 <gamozo> yeah, and linux has insanely bad perf with many memory regions
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21:59:14 <Ameisen> Mmmm... trying to build a gcc toolchain using msys2. Gets ackward, as configure doesn't like using drive letters like /D/, only accepts D:/... but if the configure script uses sed, it wants /D/
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22:12:54 <mischief> it wants the D
22:15:41 <geist> needs more vitamin D
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22:24:00 <jjuran> It’s hard to accept D: when you wish you could have :D
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22:27:06 <doug16k> Ameisen, cross compile it from a linux vm
22:28:30 <DusXMT> or perhaps from cygwin, that's a more complete UNIX-like environment than msys2
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22:29:31 <DusXMT> (and it does have non-cygwin-targetting compilers within its repositories, so it can be used solely for compilation of mingw projects)
22:29:32 <BrainFog> Hey guys
22:31:12 <klange> Hello.
22:40:02 <doug16k> xilinx ISE text editor can't even keep up with cursor movement key repeat D:
22:40:12 <doug16k> how can performance be that atrocious?
22:40:54 <doug16k> probably reflows the entire source file and redraws it every key event
22:42:34 <doug16k> wouldn't be surprised if they individually get the text metrics of every character in the whole source file every key event
22:43:45 <doug16k> just in case the scrollbar range changed :(
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