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Tuesday, 19 October 2021

11:39:00 <klange> Finally moved my BIOS loader's disk reads back to "after the menu" with a real mode thunk. Dodgy minimal one, but it seems to do the job across the 4 VMs I regularly test in, so good enough for me.
11:41:00 <klange> Also pushed my still-kinda-in-progress early logging changes, which I think make everything feel more real.
11:47:00 <zid> If you want your OS to feel really really, add a 5ms pause to kprint
11:48:00 <junon> really really
11:48:00 <zid> really (very) really (real-ish)
11:48:00 <zid> :P
11:49:00 <junon> :D
15:12:00 <vai> hi all
15:32:00 <sortie> Hi vai
15:33:00 <dzwdz> hai
15:35:00 <gog> hi
15:36:00 <junon> henlo
19:32:00 <geist> neat. yeah i think early logging and watching bootup messages to a kernel somehow makes it more real to me
19:32:00 <geist> maybe it's because i grew up on DOS and linux
19:32:00 <geist> i was always dissapointed that kernels like solaris, darwin, and NT dont' spew pages of text. at best they just throw up a copyright banner and then sit there
19:33:00 <j`ey> i enjoy the text spam too
19:35:00 <clever> only in safemode can you get that kind of logging from modern windows
19:36:00 <clever> and its not that verbose, i think it logs AFTER a module is loaded, so if a module fails, youll wrongly place the blame on the one that loads before it
19:36:00 <clever> systemd's overly verbose starting + started makes it much more clear what is happening
19:37:00 <zid> windows takes ages to start though, gives you a feel it's doing something!
19:59:00 <geist> at least in the old days you could hear it wail on the disk (or not) as a sign of progress
19:59:00 <geist> when it stopped you knew you were in trouble
20:00:00 <kingoffrance> round and round the circular log buffer goes, where it stops, nobody knows?